| jrg | No. I missed termbin.com heh | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| sarnold | not what I expected :) | 00:01 |
| tomreyn | i admit i had to guess | 00:01 |
| jrg | Seems to be just sitting there. | 00:01 |
| tomreyn | forgot the -b? | 00:02 |
| jrg | No. Lol | 00:02 |
| tomreyn | replaced "journal" by "system" ? | 00:02 |
| tomreyn | you're on which ubuntu version? | 00:03 |
| jrg | 19.04 | 00:03 |
| tomreyn | hmm this should just work then | 00:03 |
| jrg | Probably ad blocking from my pfsense box. I’ll just manually paste it. | 00:04 |
| tomreyn | you can also pipe into pastebinit if you have it installed | 00:04 |
| tomreyn | !pastebinit | 00:04 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit | 00:04 |
| tomreyn | it throws some warnings on 19.04 but those are benign | 00:05 |
| tomreyn | jrg: any luck tricking your ad blocker into letting you post some text, yet? ;-) | 00:24 |
| jrg | tomreyn: may i PM? | 00:24 |
| jrg | the link? | 00:24 |
| tomreyn | yes, but then no one else can help | 00:25 |
| tomreyn | up to you | 00:25 |
| tomreyn | jrg: either way, please say "tomreyn" here when you posted it | 00:27 |
| jrg | tomreyn: https://www.pastiebin.com/5d43829f196ba | 00:36 |
| jrg | heh.. just looked through it. not much important information | 00:36 |
| leonardus | should I use Kubuntu or Neon? | 00:45 |
| sarnold | jrg: what problem are you trying to solve? | 00:46 |
| OerHeks | Neon gives the latest packages, so you must have a reason for that | 00:47 |
| OerHeks | not an official kubuntu project, iirc | 00:48 |
| tomreyn | jrg: i looked over it, hoped to spot some acpi issues, but don't see any. an i realize i should actually have asked you to post the log of a failed shutdown instead. probably unrelated, but maybe worth pointing out - i think i passed you those: "radeon.cik_support=0 amdgpu.cik_support=1 radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1" - if you upgraded the bios after you placed those there, try booting without them to see whether they're still required. | 00:53 |
| tomreyn | jrg: while your log doesn't seem to indicate this would neccesarily help, you can still give this a try (to work aroudn the apparent acpi issue where the system fails to power off): https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html | 00:55 |
| tomreyn | sarnold: the issue jrg is trying to solve is: <jrg> After all that trouble of updating the bios. The system still reboots when put into sleep mode. | 00:56 |
| tomreyn | bios is on the latest version according to https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/FM2-A75IA-E53 | 00:57 |
| sarnold | tomreyn: aha | 00:57 |
| sarnold | jrg: which of these values have you tried? https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/states.txt | 00:57 |
| OerHeks | on that same page: How to enable S4 (Hibernate) function under Windows 7? ( i know, this is ubuntu, but interesting to that behaviour) Please follow the below settings: Control Panel-->Power Options-Change when the computer sleeps-->change advenced power settings-->Sleep-->Allow hybrid sleep-->change to "Off" | 01:00 |
| OerHeks | hybrid sleep could be a killer | 01:00 |
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| jrg | i'm using S3 | 01:11 |
| jrg | tomreyn: i'm trying it out now | 01:18 |
| jrg | Still reboots when put to sleep. Lol. Ahhhhhh! 😂 | 01:25 |
| jrg | Maybe I need to build a custom kernel. | 01:25 |
| sarnold | jrg: try some of the other sleep methods documented in that file | 01:26 |
| jrg | sarnold: how do you change what ubuntu uses? | 01:30 |
| sarnold | jrg: first thing to do is try the different options by echoing the magic strings into the /sys/power/state and /sys/power/mem_sleep files | 01:31 |
| sarnold | jrg: once you find one that works, then you can edit a systemd configuration file to tell it what kind of sleep mode to use | 01:31 |
| jrg | Mem_sleep shows only s2idle [deep] | 01:32 |
| jrg | Wow. Like just editing the state made it change to reboot | 01:33 |
| jrg | So state is the “live” state? | 01:33 |
| sarnold | yeah, it'll do what you ask it to do; thatr's what systemd is doing in the background :) | 01:35 |
| kinghat | maybe someone can help with with fixing a borked upgrade of mono while trying to use duplicati? i had whatever mono packages installed via the repos and found out that duplicati needed a newer version so i installed mono projects repo to get their stable build and its failing with: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d96b6cf2/ | 01:39 |
| kinghat | the apt fix-broken errors out as well | 01:40 |
| jrg | sarnold: i don’t quite understand how to change mem_sleep though | 01:42 |
| jrg | I want to try S1 | 01:42 |
| jrg | But don’t quite understand how to change it. | 01:42 |
| sarnold | kinghat: try apt purge libappindicator0.1-cil libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgtk2.0-cil libnunit-console-runner2.6.3-cil libnunit-core2.6.3-cil [more coming, this is just slow] | 01:44 |
| sarnold | kinghat: ... libnunit-core-interfaces2.6.3-cil libnunit-framework2.6.3-cil libnunit-mocks2.6.3-cil libnunit-util2.6.3-cil libgtk2.0-cil libglade2.0-cil ... | 01:45 |
| sarnold | jrg: try echo shallow > /sys/power/mem_sleep | 01:48 |
| jrg | Invalid argument | 01:49 |
| jrg | Maybe because ro? | 01:49 |
| sarnold | kinghat: .. and libnunit-console-runner2.6.3-cil libnunit-core2.6.3-cil libnunit-core-interfaces2.6.3-cil libnunit-framework2.6.3-cil libnunit-mocks2.6.3-cil libnunit-util2.6.3-cil | 01:50 |
| kinghat | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f1fb549b/ | 01:50 |
| kinghat | oh crap already ran it. | 01:50 |
| sarnold | kinghat: that's fine, just tack these, and duplicati gtk-sharp2-examples gtk-sharp2-gapi libglade2.0-cil-dev libglib2.0-cil-dev libgtk2.0-cil-dev libnunit-cil-dev mono-devel to the end.. | 01:51 |
| kinghat | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a3cd0450/ | 01:51 |
| sarnold | jrg: hrmh. maybe echo -n shallow > /sys/power/mem_sleep ? | 01:51 |
| kinghat | i just ran them all again | 01:51 |
| sarnold | kinghat: try again with duplicati gtk-sharp2-examples gtk-sharp2-gapi libglade2.0-cil-dev libglib2.0-cil-dev libgtk2.0-cil-dev libnunit-cil-dev mono-devel too | 01:52 |
| kinghat | remove duplicati as well? | 01:52 |
| jrg | No. Still invalid argument | 01:53 |
| sarnold | kinghat: yeah; it depends on packages coming from ubuntu's repos that look like they're conflicting with the one frmo mono repos | 01:53 |
| kinghat | ok so: | 01:54 |
| sarnold | kinghat: my thinking is, once all the ubuntu-provided ones are gone, then you can install those packages freom the mono repo, and then hopefully grab the duplicati, and go forward again | 01:54 |
| kinghat | sudo apt purge libappindicator0.1-cil libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgtk2.0-cil libnunit-console-runner2.6.3-cil libnunit-core2.6.3-cil libnunit-core-interfaces2.6.3-cil libnunit-framework2.6.3-cil libnunit-mocks2.6.3-cil libnunit-util2.6.3-cil libgtk2.0-cil libglade2.0-cil libnunit-console-runner2.6.3-cil libnunit-core2.6.3-cil | 01:54 |
| kinghat | libnunit-core-interfaces2.6.3-cil libnunit-framework2.6.3-cil libnunit-mocks2.6.3-cil libnunit-util2.6.3-cil duplicati gtk-sharp2-examples gtk-sharp2-gapi libglade2.0-cil-dev libglib2.0-cil-dev libgtk2.0-cil-dev libnunit-cil-dev mono-devel | 01:54 |
| kinghat | sarnold: i have no idea if anything else was using mono | 01:55 |
| sarnold | kinghat: if there were, it probably would have complained at that point | 01:55 |
| sarnold | jrg: oh, heh, how about "cat /sys/power/mem_sleep"? on my system that only shows s2idle [deep] -- those are the only two choices I've got | 01:55 |
| sarnold | jrg: how about your system? | 01:56 |
| kinghat | sarnold: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a52d7a5a/ | 01:56 |
| sarnold | kinghat: argh :) alright, add gtk-sharp2 mono-roslyn mono-xsp4-base and try again | 01:56 |
| sarnold | I wonder how many more iterations.. | 01:56 |
| jrg | Same | 01:57 |
| kinghat | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/17304e6e/ | 01:58 |
| sarnold | kinghat: mono-xsp4 :) | 01:59 |
| kinghat | ok i see what you were doing lel | 02:01 |
| kinghat | it made me do a couple more and now wants to proceed | 02:01 |
| kinghat | how do i know what to install back? or just install duplicati again and let it install what it wants? | 02:02 |
| sarnold | kinghat: yeah, I *hope* that will do the job | 02:02 |
| kinghat | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/4865c605/ | 02:02 |
| sarnold | kinghat: there's no guarantee that the mono folks would have used the same package names throughout -- afterall, that's probably how you wound up with the case of not just upgrading.. | 02:02 |
| sarnold | wow give me a minute on this one :) | 02:03 |
| jrg | I think i have reached the point where i just need to bite the bullet and believe that suspend just isn’t an option on this thing | 02:04 |
| jrg | lol | 02:04 |
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| sarnold | kinghat: alright, I think you're safe to say 'Y' here, and I think the apt autoremove is also safe, but pkg-config makes me wonder -- you might want that back if you write mono software yourself | 02:06 |
| sarnold | kinghat: (or compile stuff from others once in a hwile) | 02:06 |
| kinghat | i dont. i didnt even know duplicati used mono. | 02:06 |
| sarnold | jrg: what's the output of cat /sys/power/mem_sleep ? | 02:06 |
| kinghat | this was actually the issue: https://github.com/duplicati/duplicati/issues/3767#issuecomment-497061851 | 02:06 |
| jrg | I believe s2idle [deep] | 02:07 |
| sarnold | jrg: try echo s2idle > /sys/power/mem_sleep | 02:07 |
| jrg | I tried that but it gives me an invalid argument error | 02:08 |
| sarnold | daaaaang :) | 02:08 |
| kinghat | sarnold: so here is the end of that log: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ac781ce1/ | 02:11 |
| kinghat | of the purge process, anyways. | 02:14 |
| jrg | I’m guessing there just has to be a problem with ACPI + MSI + Ubuntu | 02:14 |
| sarnold | kinghat: try apt purge mono-gac ? | 02:14 |
| sarnold | jrg: hmm. you remind me of another tool.. | 02:14 |
| sarnold | jrg: try installing and running fwts -- it's a firmware test suite. maybe it'll point out the problem? | 02:15 |
| sarnold | jrg: it might not be possible for you to fix anything it might find, but at least it's a start | 02:15 |
| kinghat | sarnold: looks promising: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/60e72d88/ | 02:17 |
| sarnold | kinghat: very promising :) | 02:18 |
| sarnold | kinghat: what's in /etc/mono? anyuthing interesting? | 02:18 |
| sarnold | kinghat: I'm guessing you can probably juist rm -rf /etc/mono but it doesn't hurt to look before you obliterate it | 02:19 |
| kinghat | its /etc/mono/certstore/certs/Trust/ with a bunch of .cer X.509 Certificate files(133) and /etc/mono/registry/LocalMachine/ with nothing. | 02:20 |
| kinghat | remove | 02:22 |
| sarnold | yeah | 02:22 |
| kinghat | removed* | 02:22 |
| sarnold | alright! now you get to try to solve your problem :) | 02:23 |
| kinghat | lel | 02:23 |
| kinghat | so installing mono-complete or just install duplicati again is the question | 02:24 |
| sarnold | kinghat: heh. I can't spot duplicati on my archive mirror.. | 02:24 |
| sarnold | so I'm a bit blind on this one. Try duplicati. go for broke. :) | 02:24 |
| kinghat | ya its just a deb | 02:24 |
| kinghat | i am going to run autoremove before i do that | 02:25 |
| sarnold | alright, makes sense | 02:25 |
| sarnold | I'm glad you remembered, it's probably the much better choice | 02:25 |
| jrg | Ok. I’ve given up heh. | 02:26 |
| sarnold | jrg: dang. sorry :( | 02:26 |
| jrg | I’m seen some people who have had a similar problem | 02:26 |
| jrg | But very few | 02:26 |
| jrg | There isn’t much information anywhere about what causes the reboot on suspend | 02:26 |
| sarnold | jrg: it might not hurt to run ubuntu-bug linux, and fill out a bug report; I can't promise anything but you never know | 02:27 |
| kinghat | sarnold: well it looks like im on the most recent version of mono now | 02:30 |
| kinghat | duplicati installed. lets see if the bug i was having is fixed. | 02:30 |
| sarnold | kinghat: cool cool, how long will testing that take? | 02:30 |
| kinghat | 5m | 02:31 |
| sarnold | nice ;) | 02:31 |
| sarnold | It's dinner time here, but I can wait five more minutes to find out if this helped :D | 02:31 |
| kinghat | it was something about mono using tls 1.1 or the like and box.com api using newer? | 02:31 |
| sarnold | yeah | 02:32 |
| sarnold | TLS 1.0 is ancient and bustred | 02:32 |
| sarnold | 1.1 is also ancient and also kind of busted but far better | 02:32 |
| kinghat | looks like it worked! thanks sarnold! | 02:33 |
| sarnold | kinghat: nice! :D | 02:34 |
| omarramo | hi guys, to build a project I need version 2.58.0 of glib-2.0. apparently the package "libglib2.0-dev" only ships 2.56.4 on ubuntu | 03:10 |
| omarramo | how can I get a new version? I found this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic/+package/libglib2.0-dev | 03:10 |
| OerHeks | cosmic is EOL, so disco is supported, but gives 2.60 | 03:14 |
| omarramo | ok, so the right thing to do would download the tar and compile and install it? | 03:15 |
| omarramo | so theres no ppa or something for this kind of thing? | 03:15 |
| OerHeks | not sure why you need that version, security fixes are backported to bionic 18.04 | 03:16 |
| omarramo | I need a version >= to build a project: github.com/mate-desktop/marco | 03:17 |
| omarramo | meant to say >= 2.58.0 | 03:17 |
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| OerHeks | build the project on disco? | 03:19 |
| omarramo | im on 18.04.1 | 03:21 |
| omarramo | i'm not sure why a newer version is required than I have installed | 03:23 |
| OerHeks | i think when you want to build the latest stuff, use the latest stuff; 19.04 gives kernel 5.x and such | 03:24 |
| OerHeks | 18.04 aims to be stable, lts | 03:24 |
| omarramo | ah damn, makes sense | 03:26 |
| omarramo | guess I'll have to reinstall my vm | 03:26 |
| omarramo | thanks for the hint! | 03:27 |
| OerHeks | a vm would do, depends on what you do when build | 03:27 |
| === emmanuel_ is now known as wasanzy | ||
| garnick77X | heeey | 05:34 |
| garnick77X | hi | 05:55 |
| Aavar | I am having issues with openvpn. Can someone help me with this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8hpppGsz5N/ | 07:30 |
| Aavar | THere is nothing wrong with the server as I am connection from a different computer with no problems | 07:31 |
| EriC^^ | Aavar: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53058362/openssl-v1-1-1-ssl-choose-client-version-unsupported-protocol | 07:34 |
| Aavar | EriC^^, thank you. That worked great :) | 07:37 |
| EriC^^ | Aavar: great, no problem :) | 07:38 |
| immu | hi lotuspsychje my ubuntu takes time to boot? | 07:42 |
| lotuspsychje | immu: pastebin: systemd-analyze critical-chain please | 07:44 |
| immu | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g5SBNHWj2f/ | 07:46 |
| marcoagpinto | lotuspsychje: has the Kernel issue from yesterday been fixed? | 07:47 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 07:47 |
| marcoagpinto | 5.0.something | 07:47 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: still working on it | 07:50 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh | 07:50 |
| marcoagpinto | lotuspsychje: I haven't turned on my laptop with the VMs this week... I will use it next week only... I have been too busy doing things | 07:51 |
| immu | lotuspsychje, umm anything? | 07:51 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: please use #ubuntu-discuss for the chatting | 07:52 |
| lotuspsychje | immu: graphical target takes long, its your boot time from login to desktop that lags? | 07:52 |
| immu | yes | 07:53 |
| lotuspsychje | immu: try to install preload & haveged | 07:55 |
| lotuspsychje | immu: and type this in a terminal: sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop | 07:56 |
| immu | unable to install preload? | 07:56 |
| lotuspsychje | immu: then take a look into your startup applications, see if you can disable things you dont need | 07:56 |
| lotuspsychje | immu: sudo apt install preload haveged | 07:57 |
| immu | should i reboot? | 08:02 |
| lotuspsychje | immu: yes | 08:02 |
| immu | brb then | 08:03 |
| immu | hello lotuspsychje rebooted, checked for startup apps and their are many related to gnome | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | immu: there are some things you can disable.. | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | !systemd | immu see also | 08:13 |
| ubottu | immu see also: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units | 08:13 |
| immu | ok , i have disabled few but most i have left them alone | 08:13 |
| BlackDex | does someone here knows some good way to have every linux application use a HTTP (Corporate) proxy server? it's an http proxy | 08:23 |
| oh6hz | hello | 09:01 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome oh6hz | 09:01 |
| oh6hz | tried to install mono on ubuntu 19.04 according to this page: https://www.mono-project.com/download/stable/ and it broke everything | 09:01 |
| oh6hz | (the default mono on ubuntu does not work well with openra) | 09:02 |
| oh6hz | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 09:02 |
| oh6hz | mono-devel : Depends: ca-certificates-mono (= 6.0.0.313-0xamarin3+ubuntu1804b1) but 5.18.0.240+dfsg-2ubuntu2 is installed | 09:02 |
| oh6hz | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). | 09:02 |
| oh6hz | --fix-broken install does not help | 09:02 |
| oh6hz | is it time to start editing something by hand or what's next | 09:04 |
| oh6hz | tried to google a bit but found nothing that works | 09:04 |
| lotuspsychje | oh6hz: we dont really support external ppa's here, often we see unmet dependecencys are the cause of conflict | 09:05 |
| oh6hz | yes | 09:05 |
| lotuspsychje | oh6hz: we strongly advice to install packages from the official ubuntu repos instead | 09:05 |
| oh6hz | i had them but they cause openra to crash after a while | 09:06 |
| lotuspsychje | oh6hz: if you find a bug in ubuntu please report it with ubuntu-bug packagename | 09:06 |
| lotuspsychje | oh6hz: try to remove that ppa with !ppapurge | 09:07 |
| lotuspsychje | to get out of dependency issues | 09:07 |
| oh6hz | will try that | 09:07 |
| lotuspsychje | !ppapurge | 09:07 |
| ubottu | To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html | 09:07 |
| oh6hz | ok, apt is broken, can't install anything | 09:08 |
| lotuspsychje | oh6hz: try to remove it from software&sources then, and sudo apt update after | 09:08 |
| oh6hz | and actually i'm not skilled enough to tell if it's mono on ubuntu that's broken or just the openra binary but on my previous computer it started working properly when i installed the non-ubuntu mono | 09:10 |
| lotuspsychje | oh6hz: there's nothing broken, its the ppa conflicting with the mono from the ubuntu repos | 09:11 |
| ZaZaGX | hello | 09:11 |
| lotuspsychje | oh6hz: after you resolved that, we can try focus on the openra issue | 09:12 |
| oh6hz | yes i know, i'm talking about the reason why i did what i did and why i haven't reported a bug on mono | 09:12 |
| oh6hz | i removed the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-official-stable.list | 09:19 |
| Aavar | what is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade? | 09:21 |
| sudo18 | Aavar: https://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade | 09:22 |
| oh6hz | then apt autoremove, fixed it. thank's for the help lotuspsychje. did not think about the sources.list | 09:23 |
| Aavar | sudo18, thank you :) | 09:25 |
| sudo18 | yw :) | 09:25 |
| === im0nde_ is now known as im0nde | ||
| leeijaw | https://askubuntu.com/questions/59159/disable-middle-click-to-lower-window-behaviour-on-gnome | 10:22 |
| leeijaw | I finally found a way to disable the middle-click cycling trough window "feature". | 10:23 |
| === Wryhder is now known as Lucas_Gray | ||
| spacefaygo | why does ubuntu not come with ifconfig | 11:28 |
| spacefaygo | what is the deal with that | 11:28 |
| ub3g33k | It's been deprecated, in favor of the ip command | 11:35 |
| spacefaygo | ub3g33k: ah k | 11:37 |
| retoothx | hi, i'm having a problem with the gnome-disk utility. i tried resizing a rather big (2TB to 1TB) ntfs partition yesterday and the gnome-disks window is greyed since then. I thought maybe it would just take some time, but the process is still running with no answer from the GUI. is there any possible way to get information on the status of gnome-disks? does it write logs or something? | 11:42 |
| === juboxi is now known as jubo2 | ||
| EriC^^ | retoothx: you could get the pid then use strace -p <pid> | 11:46 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: maybe you could do "sudo parted -ls" and see what the partition table looks like and any fs | 11:46 |
| ioria | retoothx, dmesg too | 11:47 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: well, it seems that the process is stuck on some polling according to strace, but i'm not quite sure what to make of it: https://pastebin.com/Yp4eyYrv | 11:53 |
| Rojola1 | hi | 11:55 |
| === Rojola1 is now known as Rojola | ||
| EriC^^ | retoothx: what's the partition table look like | 11:57 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: parted -ls says that no shrinking has been done so far: https://pastebin.com/hE25XCFK | 11:58 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: is it mountable, i wonder? | 11:59 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: yap, it is!! oO | 12:01 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: does that mean gnome-disks did completely nothing to the disk? not even lock it? | 12:02 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: if i had to guess, then yeah, try sudo ntfsinfo /dev/sdb1 -m | 12:03 |
| ub3g33k | Is this a removable disk? | 12:04 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: you can figure out the volume's space by cluster-size * cluster-volume = size in bytes | 12:04 |
| retoothx | it is an external hdd yes | 12:04 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: actually 'df -h /dev/sdb1' should print the size | 12:04 |
| ub3g33k | It looks like it lost connection at some point, and is still trying to grab the old device name, to me | 12:04 |
| clarkk | where does the Software Updater app get the description of each package that's shown in the list? | 12:05 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: ntfsinfo gave this https://pastebin.com/pNu3261j | 12:05 |
| ub3g33k | and that's why it got stuck on polling | 12:05 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: i could mount and unmount it through the filesystem gui (nautilus i guess) | 12:06 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: it looks to me that it's 2000GB still | 12:07 |
| EriC^^ | maybe it was still in the process of putting all the data at the start of the disk before doing the resize command? | 12:07 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: possible. so is it save to kill gnome-disks? | 12:08 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: i mean i'd do it personally, but i dont know for sure, sorry | 12:09 |
| EriC^^ | if it's still mountable and stuff i'd guess worst case scenario is some file goes missing if it was in the process of moving that file, just guessing though | 12:10 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: ok if it's just a single corrupted file that's fine with me. i panicked a bit, because this drive has like 10 years of my digital live on it. | 12:12 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: so i did kill gnome-disks, and it is still mountable and all the files seem to be still there. phew. | 12:15 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: great, backup time now :) | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:16 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: yap, just need some new hardware as this is my backup hdd ;) | 12:16 |
| EriC^^ | i had a similar scare once, since then i put all my stuff on an ext hdd and another hdd just in case the ext goes bad or something | 12:16 |
| retoothx | EriC^^: thanks a lot, you really saved me. my blood pressure is on a normal level again :) | 12:17 |
| EriC^^ | retoothx: hehe, no problem :) | 12:18 |
| retoothx | bye, take care | 12:18 |
| EriC^^ | bye, you too | 12:18 |
| clarkk | where does the Software Updater app get the description of each package that's shown in the list? | 12:22 |
| ioria | clarkk, /var/lib/app-info probably but i could be wrong | 12:28 |
| wasanzy | Hi | 12:42 |
| wasanzy | trying to get some info from auditd for yesterday but looks like nothing has been logged | 12:42 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: i think it logs to the journal / syslog by default? | 12:44 |
| ws2k3 | im running ubuntu 14.04 but on apt-get update i get 100%[Working} any way to debug this? cause the repo itself seems to work fine on other machines | 12:47 |
| `mist_ | hey guys, any way i can install libconfuse1 on ubuntu 18? | 12:48 |
| tomreyn | !14.04 | ws2k3 | 12:48 |
| ubottu | ws2k3: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade | 12:48 |
| tomreyn | !YY.MM | `mist_ | 12:49 |
| ubottu | `mist_: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 12:49 |
| wasanzy | it logs to /var/log/audit/ and all the logs seems to contain records for only today | 12:49 |
| ws2k3 | tomreyn: i know.... but i didnt ask it it was eol or not. nor am i interested in commercial support. just came here for community advise. | 12:49 |
| tomreyn | ws2k3: okay, so as the /topic says, the ubuntu releases we support here are those that are not EOL | 12:50 |
| `mist_ | 18.04 lts | 12:51 |
| tomreyn | if you'll need help upgrading to a supported release, we'll be happy to help. | 12:51 |
| tomreyn | ws2k3: ^ | 12:51 |
| tomreyn | `mist_: i only see v2.x and 3.x in the repos. you could look for a !PPA, but this makes me think what really should happen is to change the source code of the software you're trying to make work. | 12:52 |
| ws2k3 | cool if thats ur opinion. maby someone else is willing to help me on this. secondly. ubuntu 14.04 is debian 8 based which is still supported. that you got a different standart that is fine ^^ | 12:52 |
| tomreyn | ws2k3: that's not just a personal opinion, that's a misinterpretation on your part. (and i think you intentionally misinterpreted this before, and were told so before.) | 12:54 |
| ws2k3 | tomreyn: then what am i misinterpetating? | 12:54 |
| `mist_ | tomreyn: it's an old software | 12:55 |
| tomreyn | that's it's a personal opinion. it's a channel policy. | 12:55 |
| tomreyn | ws2k3: ^ | 12:55 |
| tomreyn | `mist_: maybe it can be updated, or replaced? alternatively you could run it in a container with an older ubuntu version which provides v1 | 12:56 |
| ws2k3 | tomreyn: https://askubuntu.com/questions/445487/what-debian-version-are-the-different-ubuntu-versions-based-on: 14.04 trusty jessie / sid and jessie will go eol in june 2020 ergo. 14.04 is not Realy eol. but ubuntu Makes it eol :) | 12:58 |
| tomreyn | !debian | ws2k3 | 12:59 |
| ubottu | ws2k3: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! | 12:59 |
| tomreyn | they're closely related, but not the same thing at all. | 12:59 |
| ws2k3 | tomreyn: but this is all not realy relevant. you dont seem a guy that can be convinced. and thats all okay. but maby someone else can advise. that actualy has something usefull to say :) | 12:59 |
| tomreyn | ws2k3: if you have convincing arguments to challenge the policies for this channel, feel free to bring them up in #ubuntu-ops | 13:00 |
| tomreyn | ws2k3: i'll be happy to explain this in more detail in #ubuntu-discuss, too, if oyu like. | 13:01 |
| clarkk | ioria, thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, the name listed in the Software Updater is not in /var/lib/app-info | 13:03 |
| sufbo | =/leave | 13:04 |
| ws2k3 | tomreyn: ubuntu is not going to change the policy cause it brings money. simpel. but like i sad before that is not the argument. the argument is why my apt keeps waiting on 100%[working] | 13:07 |
| tomreyn | !ot | ws2k3 | 13:08 |
| ubottu | ws2k3: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 13:08 |
| lotuspsychje | ws2k3: please keep discussions out of this channel | 13:08 |
| `mist_ | tomreyn: unfortunately it has to be in the host OS for a container to be able to use it | 13:08 |
| ws2k3 | lotuspsychje: i know. tell tomreyn that =) | 13:08 |
| `mist_ | i guess i'll run an older lts | 13:08 |
| lotuspsychje | ws2k3: tomreyn is pointing you to the guidelines | 13:08 |
| ws2k3 | lotuspsychje: ok. noted. | 13:09 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: this is really just one of many possible theories, but (just in case you're not already aware) there's malware which would truncate logs to cover up its intrusion (it'd also have truncated other logs then, though). but i'm sure there are other and better explanations. | 13:09 |
| guiverc2 | ws2k3, debian and ubuntu releases do not directly correspond; they are released a year apart; both upstream use debian-sid - but that's not a static entity; thus the year apart is significant; which still doesn't change debian or Ubuntu 14.04 LTS being off-topic. Use your Ubuntu Advantage support if using 14.04 ESM | 13:10 |
| wasanzy | tomreyn: I think you are right because looks like event logwatch could not report anything | 13:11 |
| tomreyn | `mist_: why is this, does it need to interact with the hardware directly? | 13:11 |
| ogurk | is there a tool that can be used for scripting certificate generation from linux box? basically to script call to windows ca | 13:12 |
| ogurk | https://cbudde.com/microsoft/certificate-services/setting-up-windows-root-ca-on-centos-6-9-linux-server | 13:12 |
| `mist_ | tomreyn: yeah =( | 13:12 |
| tomreyn | `mist_: hmm unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any supported ubuntu release which still has libconfuse v1. this software must be really old. | 13:14 |
| `mist_ | tomreyn: it's called telldus-core, i think development stopped like 8 years ago =/ | 13:22 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: if you suspect an intrusion you could use a virus scanner such as clamav, (in case you suspect a root compromise) software which attempts to detect rootkits such as chkrootkit and rkhunter (while those are packages in ubuntu, i'd personally prefer the upstream versions) - note these will likely produce a lot of false positives, though. but (in case of a supected root compromise) you should really set the system up freshly (after taking | 13:22 |
| tomreyn | a snapshot which you can analyze further) and only bring its services back online after you have a good theory about what may have happened and have taken measures for it not to happen again once you'll bring up services again. also set up remote (sys)logging in a write-once approach (logs once written to the remote system must not be deletable by the system logging there) in case it'll happen again. | 13:22 |
| tomreyn | `mist_: i would really, really look for a replacement then. | 13:23 |
| `mist_ | i have, but since it's a hardware thing there doesn't seem to be alot of options ='( There is a release working on the latest raspbian so i might just repurpose a pi | 13:23 |
| tomreyn | `mist_: https://github.com/telldus/telldus/tree/master/telldus-corehas commits from 2 years ago. | 13:23 |
| `mist_ | hm true | 13:24 |
| tomreyn | but it doesn#t help if dependencies remain the same. | 13:25 |
| `mist_ | yeah | 13:25 |
| wasanzy | tomreyn: the system was infected with malware yesterday | 13:25 |
| wasanzy | so I was trying to investigate today | 13:25 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: ah good you were able to verify this. | 13:25 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: hope you can determine the attack vector and take counter measures. | 13:26 |
| wasanzy | lrwxrwxrwx 1 postgres postgres 0 Aug 1 12:22 exe -> '/var/tmp/�J�l0f (deleted)' was the path and 584.80% aVbIu5 18294 - CPU usage and process name | 13:28 |
| wasanzy | tomreyn: trying to crack my brain in determining the attack vector | 13:28 |
| wasanzy | I rebooted the system yesterday to get ride of the process | 13:29 |
| larkfisherman | Short question - my usb device is mapped to /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb2/2-4/2-4:1.2/ - Is this location static i.e. does it change on boot? | 13:29 |
| larkfisherman | if the device is still plugged in the same port after reboot, that is... | 13:30 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: make sure it's offline, user data removed, backups complete. | 13:33 |
| tomreyn | (and tag those backups as 'compromised') | 13:35 |
| wasanzy | tomreyn: Is there a possibility that the malware is still there? | 13:40 |
| wasanzy | or the data on infected? I was thinking the attacker was just using the machine to mine cryto | 13:40 |
| tomreyn | larkfisherman: i think it's static. you could verify the PCI vendor + device and, if any, serial nunmber, to make sure. | 13:41 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: if the malware got root (but also if it hasn't, just it may be detectable then) then there's always a possibility that it's still there, yes. just because you see the system being abused for crypto mining doesn't mean it's the only thing it's being abused for, or the only persistent malware. | 13:43 |
| wasanzy | to the malware was running as the postgres user | 13:45 |
| wasanzy | not sure it got root | 13:45 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: thus the recommendation is to reinstall the system from scratch, restoring *verified clean (since those can also be infected) backups, but only bringin things back online after you identifed the attack vector / how the intrusion happened, and after taking counter measures so this won't happen again. also resetting nay passwords and regenerating any secret keys stored there is considered a good measure. | 13:46 |
| tomreyn | only if you can work out quite reliably that a root comrpomise did not take place you get the liberty to choose not to reinstall the full system. | 13:47 |
| tomreyn | (but even then you might want to, just in case) | 13:47 |
| wasanzy | Ok thank you | 13:47 |
| wasanzy | I think you are right and your explanation is well taken | 13:48 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: but realyl th emost important thing you need to do right now is bringing this system offline if you haven't done this, yet | 13:48 |
| wasanzy | the problem is this is the only production server we have | 13:48 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: otherwise you're risking (continued?) exfiltration of user data / databases. | 13:49 |
| wasanzy | tomreyn: Just to ask, do you think that could really be a malware? | 13:50 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: i have no idea. could be, do you have any further information on the file, have you tried recovering it? | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | '/var/tmp/�J�l0f' looks like it may have been renamed, then deleted. you might not be able to restore it, but it's worth a try. after taking the system offline, of course. | 13:52 |
| wasanzy | tomreyn: the file vanished after rebooting the system | 13:52 |
| tomreyn | oh right you rebooted. is /var/tmp RAM backed? normally it's disk backed. | 13:52 |
| wasanzy | it is an executable | 13:52 |
| wasanzy | no it is not backed | 13:52 |
| wasanzy | but a process to be consuming such amount of CPU on a machine that is not very busy, it could mean only one thing which is malware | 13:55 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: i'm asking whether /var/tmp is TMPFS (a RAM disk): df -h /var/tmp | 13:55 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: yes it seems somewhat likely that it's malware, based on the (limited) information you have so far. | 13:56 |
| wasanzy | df -h /var/tmp | 13:57 |
| wasanzy | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 13:57 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: the second line of this output was interpreted as an IRC command because it started with a slash. | 13:58 |
| tomreyn | !pastebin | wasanzy | 13:58 |
| ubottu | wasanzy: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | wasanzy: your time is better spent taking this machine offline, building it from scratch and restoring from verified clean backups. THEN worry about what happened. | 13:59 |
| tomreyn | right | 13:59 |
| wasanzy | as I explained earlier, the system is in production, we don't have another production server. that is my worry. taking it offline means, taken the business down | 14:00 |
| tomreyn | if you have a collegue who can help you there, then have them rebuild the system on a new server / VM while you analyze the compromised system *after taking it offline* | 14:00 |
| wasanzy | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sSrtyBhcpk/ | 14:01 |
| leftyfb | wasanzy: then hopefully this is a lesson in running a proper production system. In the meantime, you are only making matters worse the longer you leave it online | 14:01 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: here's how i'd view it: your business was badly prepared for this situation, going forward you will need to prepare better for it. for now, you'll need to deal with the consequences. | 14:01 |
| leftyfb | ^ | 14:01 |
| tomreyn | keeping the system online means you're proliferating data exfiltration, your system attacking other systems, the intrusion spreading (possibly to other systems in your network), and possibly fighting live against an intrusder who keeps installing new malware. | 14:03 |
| tomreyn | the only reasonable thing to do now is to bring the system down and put up a maintenance page ("will be back soon") | 14:04 |
| leftyfb | wasanzy: you have no idea how compromised your system is. And you never will. You're only wasting time. | 14:05 |
| leftyfb | and data | 14:05 |
| tomreyn | the business is not having losses because of you bringing down production, but because of not focussing enough on keeping this system safe nor on being well prepared to handle such (somewhat plannable) situations. | 14:05 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: we're saying this not to shame you, but to provide you with arguments in case you'll need to explain this to $boss. | 14:07 |
| wasanzy | tomreyn: I understand your points very well and that is the best thing to do. If my bosses had listened to me to setup a redundancy, it would have been better. | 14:10 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: if you're worried about your job there: bring this system offline now, then talk to $boss bringing up those points, have them choose the risk they want to take, then continue working on it. | 14:10 |
| wasanzy | I spoke to CTO so we can shutdown, waiting for feed back | 14:10 |
| tomreyn | you should have been allowed to bring it down on your own if a compromise is likely, that's a policy the CTO will need to change in the future. | 14:11 |
| tomreyn | (maybe after peer review) | 14:11 |
| intelo | I have downloaded this Kubuntu image, created usb but it has installed ubuntu. not kubuntu. what could have been wrong? cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/18.04/release/kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso | 14:13 |
| lordcirth | intelo, ... are you sure you wrote the right iso? That's pretty weird | 14:16 |
| intelo | the name even has kubuntu in it | 14:16 |
| intelo | lordcirth | 14:17 |
| tsujp_ | Does ubuntu have something like `sa2` running by default? | 14:17 |
| lordcirth | tsujp_, what' | 14:18 |
| lordcirth | *what's sa2? | 14:18 |
| tsujp_ | https://linux.die.net/man/8/sa2 | 14:18 |
| tsujp_ | I have an ubuntu vm that someone is claiming I used 93 TB of traffic on | 14:18 |
| tsujp_ | But I can only see sustained 200 KBps for a month, which is at most 400 GB | 14:18 |
| tsujp_ | How can I check the network history? | 14:19 |
| leftyfb | tsujp_: you don't unless you set something up previously | 14:21 |
| tsujp_ | Ugh | 14:21 |
| tomreyn | tsujp_: you can check interface statistics (since an interface was last brought up) | 14:24 |
| tomreyn | intelo: can you run sha256sum kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso | 14:26 |
| intelo | tomreynsha256sum kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso844762a208593ee5cf396cb09522b1dfa127c65b79f71f4863c062039215d0d8 kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso | 14:28 |
| intelo | how to create usb live . I am in ubuntu | 14:30 |
| tomreyn | intelo: sorry, can you do it again with sha1sum kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso | 14:32 |
| tomreyn | intelo: you can use usb-creator-gtk or usb-creator-qt to write the iso to a usb storage. | 14:32 |
| intelo | $ sha1sum kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.isoe5ebc81b0f35c19251b8a3b21ecc8dd3b08866e6 kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso | 14:33 |
| intelo | tomreyn | 14:33 |
| intelo | tomreyn whats wrong? | 14:37 |
| lordcirth | !patience | intelo | 14:38 |
| ubottu | intelo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 14:38 |
| Akuw | i need to mount a Vmware ESXi partition from Ubuntu Server Install CD | 14:41 |
| tomreyn | intelo: i'm testing with the image you have downloaded, with sha1sum e5ebc81b0f35c19251b8a3b21ecc8dd3b08866e6 - and this is a kubuntu image - it boots to a kubuntu live system | 14:41 |
| Akuw | how can i do that | 14:41 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: which format is this in? | 14:43 |
| Akuw | i can see partition /dev/sda1 | 14:43 |
| Akuw | how can i see format? | 14:43 |
| tomreyn | if you can already access the partition on this image then let's not bother about the format. | 14:44 |
| Rojola | hi | 14:45 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: are you trying to mount a file system which is stored on a partition which is available from this ubuntu live system now? | 14:45 |
| Akuw | ok | 14:45 |
| Akuw | yes | 14:45 |
| tomreyn | do you know which file system typpe it is? | 14:45 |
| Rojola | I would like to install "imapsync" which is a very well-known program to sync imap accounts. | 14:45 |
| Akuw | because i want to reset password of VMware | 14:45 |
| Rojola | Now, I did not find any packages in the repository | 14:45 |
| Rojola | the only thing I found is this instruction as to how to install "imapsync" on ubuntu: | 14:46 |
| Rojola | https://imapsync.lamiral.info/INSTALL.d/INSTALL.Ubuntu.txt | 14:46 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: what do you mean by "password of vmware"? | 14:46 |
| Rojola | I wondered, if it is really so complicated | 14:46 |
| Rojola | are there no packages whatsover? | 14:46 |
| Akuw | using fdisk -l Type Microsoft Basic data | 14:46 |
| Akuw | Vmware ESXi has a password to start | 14:47 |
| Akuw | https://aprendiendoavirtualizar.com/cambiar-el-password-de-root-en-vmware-esxi/ | 14:47 |
| Akuw | like that | 14:47 |
| tomreyn | Rojola: it's probably one of those: apt search imap sync | 14:47 |
| Akuw | but this server was in storage for long time and nobody knows password | 14:48 |
| Rojola | nope, tomreyn | 14:48 |
| Rojola | tomreyn, the program's name is "imapsync" | 14:48 |
| Rojola | tomreyn, the search results I get contain other programs | 14:49 |
| Rojola | "mailsync" is one of the search results - but I never used it | 14:49 |
| Rojola | imapsync has helped me a couple of times in the past | 14:49 |
| tomreyn | Rojola: it could be due to a license incompatibility issue that it's not in ubuntu. it's apparently just a perl script so you can download one of the releases of their website or even use git. | 14:52 |
| Rojola | tomreyn, I will try it. But before I try it, I would like to give "mailsync" a shot | 14:53 |
| Rojola | as this is in the official repos | 14:53 |
| Rojola | I just read the manual / documentation and it's not clear to me: | 14:53 |
| Rojola | http://mailsync.sourceforge.net/README | 14:53 |
| tomreyn | Rojola: cool, good luck. | 14:53 |
| Rojola | in imapsync, I can define the old server's url, user, pass along with the same login credentials for the new server | 14:53 |
| Rojola | mailsync's README file does not explain anything like that | 14:54 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: my spanish is not so well, but it think this is just a matter of mounting the root file system and resetting an account (root?) password | 14:54 |
| Rojola | you wouldn't happen to have any more infos on this, now, would you? | 14:54 |
| Akuw | tomreyn: yes. I sent the lick so you can see just screens | 14:54 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: if "fdisk -l" returns "Type Microsoft Basic data" for the partition you think this is on, then i assume this can really be the wrong partition. use file -s /dev/sdXY instead | 14:56 |
| tomreyn | Rojola: of those listed for "imap sync" on my 18.04 system, i only used offlineimap, and that's been a while. | 14:56 |
| Akuw | "/dev/sda1: data" | 14:57 |
| tomreyn | Rojola: but all of this software should come with !man pages and documentation in /usr/share/doc | 14:57 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: i admit this doesn't help much ) | 14:57 |
| Akuw | i know | 14:57 |
| Rojola | tomreyn, thank you! | 14:57 |
| Akuw | there i a procedure to do it, but i need vmfs-tools but i am using a install cd | 14:58 |
| tomreyn | Rojola: you're welcome. personally when needing to choose a well supported software (from multiple choices) for a particular task i'd look at whether there are different versions of it in different ubuntu versions (i.e. this software still gets new updates form the developers) and have a look at the bug reports, and look at which section of the ubuntu archives (main, universe, multiverse, restricted etc) it is in. | 14:59 |
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| tomreyn | Akuw: you can install additional softwar eon a live system if you have sufficnet RAM (it is really installed to a RAM disk) | 15:00 |
| Rojola | tomreyn, that's a good approach, but there are not so many choices when it comes to syncing from one imap sever to an other | 15:00 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: it may be easier / better to do this on a proper ubuntu installation, though | 15:01 |
| Akuw | how can i install that packege from my install cd | 15:02 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: based on this search, it looks like there are really just offlineimap and maybe mailsync and isync which can do this, right | 15:03 |
| tomreyn | Rojola: ^ this was actually to you | 15:03 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: sudo apt update && sudo apt install vmfs-tools | 15:04 |
| Rojola | thank you tomreyn | 15:05 |
| pomeha | hello, how to add universe/multiverse repos properly? do I only need `deb ... bionic multiverse`? or do I also need `deb-src ... bionic multiverse`? and what about `... bionic-updates ...`? | 15:17 |
| tomreyn | !repos | pomeha | 15:22 |
| ubottu | pomeha: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. | 15:22 |
| nils_ | I'm having a really weird issue with ramfs. Whenever I write to a file in ramfs using a shell script the resulting file is empty. Doing the same on the shell seems to work fine. | 15:23 |
| tomreyn | pomeha: in case you run a graphical desktop, you can configure it using software-properties-gtk (or software-properties-qt if you run a QT based !flavour such as !KDE) | 15:24 |
| tomreyn | nils_: consider tmpfs as an alternative to ramfs. other than that, have the script log its stdout and stderr output to a file | 15:26 |
| nils_ | tomreyn, tmpfs has the problem that it will also write to swap. I do not want any data in the files I'm creating to end up in swap. | 15:26 |
| tomreyn | nils_: usually when something works on an interactive shell but not on script it's due to different users (and thus permissionns), different environment (run "env"), different shell | 15:27 |
| Akuw | i am installing ubuntu in serverit has 4 ethernet but i got "Network configuration time out" | 15:29 |
| tomreyn | nils_: okay, i don't have any hard facts on why or whether to prefer tmpfs over ramfs but i haven't ramfs seen used much recently (maybe there's reasons for it, might be worth researching). you could always encrypt the tmpfs using dmcrypt-luks with a randomly generated key, if needed. | 15:29 |
| nils_ | tomreyn, that's a great idea. | 15:29 |
| tomreyn | nils_: so apprently the issue with ramfs is that it has no fixed size, will greow dynamically based on use, and may cause the system to run out of memory. not ideal in many scenarios. | 15:33 |
| nils_ | tomreyn, yeah, I'm not all too worried about that. The problem I'm having is that content written to the files just disappears. | 15:33 |
| tomreyn | nils_: can you verify that it is actually written in the first place, though | 15:34 |
| nils_ | tomreyn, write() returns the number of bytes written. It seems fairly random, doesn't make a difference whether I'm doing it on the shell or from a script as I first suspected | 15:35 |
| tomreyn | oh, hmm, that's unexpected based on what i just read online. | 15:36 |
| tomreyn | nils_: maybe sync after writing, just in case? | 15:37 |
| nils_ | I tried that as well. Doesn't help | 15:37 |
| nils_ | it's bizarre. | 15:37 |
| nils_ | I think I'm just going with the encrypted container instead | 15:37 |
| Akuw | i am getting this “Network configuration timed out: please verify settings” | 15:39 |
| Akuw | installing ubuntu server | 15:39 |
| tomreyn | nils_: i'm doing this, which works fine here: for count in $(seq 1 100); do echo $count > /mnt/ramdisk/$count; echo "/mnt/ramdisk/$count: $(cat /mnt/ramdisk/$count)"; done | 15:40 |
| tamarind | hello all, trying to install pgadmin4 the entire day and run into various issues... i am desperately in need of help - kindly checkout this paste https://pastebin.com/p4j3KT8P | 15:41 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: is there an ethernet connection? | 15:41 |
| tamarind | i even manually created the directory /var/cache/pgadmin/sessions and gave 0777 | 15:42 |
| tamarind | but still the same issue | 15:42 |
| Akuw | yes | 15:42 |
| tamarind | earlier apache port was clashing so i changed from 80 to another number and now apache runs perfectly fine | 15:42 |
| Akuw | i tested and is working fine | 15:42 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: also a link on that connection - are the lights on those NICs lit up / flashing? | 15:42 |
| tamarind | need your support to get this working please | 15:42 |
| Akuw | yes | 15:43 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: this sugests something can be wrong with the network configurations you entered in the installer. | 15:43 |
| nils_ | tomreyn, works here as well. The problem was somewhere else I believe. | 15:43 |
| Akuw | are flkashing | 15:43 |
| Akuw | are DHCP for all cards | 15:43 |
| Akuw | by default | 15:43 |
| tamarind | got the apache working and tested with browser on default ip and port | 15:43 |
| Akuw | i am testing all ports, all blinking | 15:44 |
| lordcirth | tamarind, df -h /var/cache ? is it on /? | 15:44 |
| Akuw | when i connect the cable of course | 15:44 |
| tomreyn | Akuw: try configuring just one of them for starters. also /join #ubuntu-server for server questions | 15:44 |
| nils_ | tomreyn, I had a systemd job that happily kept calling my script which happily overwrote the files with empty content. | 15:46 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, first of all, thanks for replying. have pasted the output here https://pastebin.com/wXaJpXVn | 15:46 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, if your questions was whether cache directory is present inside /var/ - then yes | 15:47 |
| lordcirth | tamarind, actually I was wondering if /var or /var/cache was a separate mount with weird options | 15:48 |
| lordcirth | tamarind, os.chmod(config.SESSION_DB_PATH, 0o700) - try setting 0700? | 15:48 |
| Rojola | tomreyn, are you interested in an update on the story? | 15:48 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, did sudo os.chmod(config.S^CSION_DB_PATH, 0700) and got bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' | 15:50 |
| tamarind | . | 15:50 |
| tomreyn | nils_: hehe, whoops, thanks for the feedback. | 15:50 |
| lordcirth | tamarind, that's python code :P | 15:50 |
| tamarind | SESSION | 15:50 |
| lordcirth | tamarind, I meant, try doing 'chmod 0700 /var/cache/pgadmin/sessions | 15:50 |
| nils_ | tomreyn, yeah thanks for helping out. Of course I first suspected something is off with the ramfs code in the kernel ;) | 15:51 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, gave permissions. now again do reinstall ? | 15:51 |
| lordcirth | tamarind, yeah, try again | 15:51 |
| tomreyn | Rojola: yes, but let's talk in #ubuntu-discuss in case this is no longer a support topic | 15:51 |
| tomreyn | nils_: the most likely scenario ;) | 15:52 |
| nils_ | tomreyn, whenever I see hoofprints I'm on the lookout for Zebras. | 15:52 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, https://pastebin.com/EKedQguf | 15:53 |
| tamarind | same error | 15:53 |
| tamarind | i did sudo chmod 0700 /var/cache/pgadmin/sessions | 15:53 |
| lordcirth | tamarind, ok. What Ubuntu version are you on, and are these packages from a 3rd-party repo? | 15:53 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, following this tutorial https://tecadmin.net/install-pgadmin4-on-ubuntu/... and about the version and output https://pastebin.com/ZKNnLmpt | 15:55 |
| tamarind | i installed xfce on top of this server os | 15:56 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, am i doing something wrong ? | 16:07 |
| Rojola | what is the best option to compare two imap accounts? | 16:09 |
| Rojola | I want to make sure, that two imap accounts are identical | 16:09 |
| tomreyn | !best | 16:09 |
| Rojola | (after a sync) | 16:09 |
| tomreyn | there's no single best, pick one which seems to work well / covers your needs. | 16:10 |
| nils_ | Rojola, 2 IMAP accounts, accessed remotely? | 16:11 |
| Rojola | nils_, I am not sure... I would say it is remotely? | 16:11 |
| Rojola | nils_, I am on my computer, the imap accounts are on a server | 16:11 |
| Rojola | and I have no root access to the server | 16:11 |
| nils_ | Rojola, that complicates the issue. So in your mail client you just copied the messages from one account to the other? | 16:13 |
| Rojola | nils_, no, I used "imapsync" | 16:13 |
| Rojola | but there are soooooooo many options in imapsync, and so many possible issues (unknown flags, duplicated id's, size, etc.) | 16:13 |
| Rojola | so I want to make sure, nothing went wrong | 16:13 |
| Rojola | when I copy directories on my computer, I always run a "diff -r" afterwards | 16:14 |
| Rojola | that's what I had in mind for imap | 16:14 |
| nils_ | Rojola, yeah, to complicate things depending on the servers used there might be modifications that happen. I'm not aware of a tool that does this. | 16:14 |
| nils_ | first thing I would do is check if the amount of e-mails is the same ;) | 16:14 |
| Rojola | I could do this via PHP with imap_open() | 16:15 |
| Rojola | there I should be able to look through all the emails, add ++ to $i (counter) and get a number | 16:15 |
| Rojola | that's the answer to "check if the amount of e-mails" | 16:15 |
| nils_ | Rojola, yeah I would have just used a graphical client for that. But writing a script is probably your best bet. What may be complicated is that the e-mails will not be returned in the same order on both servers. | 16:16 |
| Rojola | why not? | 16:17 |
| nils_ | Rojola, I'm not sure if the protocol specifies an order in which the e-mails are returned. PHP has imap_sort however. | 16:18 |
| nils_ | Rojola, then all you need to do is compare the Subject: header and the message body. | 16:18 |
| Rojola | nils_, I could go a really brutal road: I could sort them (as you suggested via imap_sort) and then I just print them into a text file | 16:21 |
| Rojola | old_server.txt | 16:21 |
| Rojola | new_server.txt | 16:21 |
| Rojola | and then I diff the txt-files | 16:21 |
| nils_ | that can work. It may be the headers changed but you'll see if that's the case. | 16:21 |
| Rojola | thank you nils_ | 16:22 |
| wasanzy | I found this after scanning my infected server with ClamAv: | 16:22 |
| wasanzy | https://paste.debian.net/1094080/ | 16:22 |
| tomreyn | wasanzy: i'd be interested in more details in #ubuntu-discuss (it's no longer an ubuntu support topic, i think) | 16:24 |
| wasanzy | ok | 16:25 |
| === macroprep_ is now known as macroprep | ||
| lordcirth | tamarind, did you follow that link and install the postgres 11 repo? | 16:26 |
| lordcirth | And do an apt update? | 16:27 |
| poot | Hi. cryptsetup/crypttab issue, 18.04lts. I have encrypted LVM for boot, and added a whole disc drive on the next line of crypttab with a keyfile referenced to /etc/blahblah. On boot the system still asks for the password of the second drive. The keyfile has no newlines or any of that junk. What might be going wrong? | 16:27 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, nope :( will remove my existing and try now | 16:28 |
| Rojola | thank you nils_ | 16:28 |
| Rojola | thank you tomreyn | 16:28 |
| Rojola | bye bye =) | 16:28 |
| lordcirth | poot, can you please pastebin the exact crypttab entry, and any associated fstab entry? | 16:28 |
| seven-eleven | why does `apt source htop` not find the source code of htop? | 16:31 |
| poot | lordcirth: https://pastebin.com/dYdcEXTj | 16:31 |
| seven-eleven | I get an internal server error when visiting ubuntu's repository page http://dpaste.com/0G1G91Q | 16:32 |
| lordcirth | seven-eleven, do you have the deb-src lines uncommented in your sources.list? | 16:32 |
| seven-eleven | let me check | 16:32 |
| seven-eleven | lordcirth, nope, im going to uncomment all, thanks! | 16:33 |
| lordcirth | seven-eleven, np. you'll need to apt-update, I think | 16:33 |
| seven-eleven | yeah | 16:33 |
| seven-eleven | worked now fine lordcirth | 16:35 |
| poot | brb | 16:47 |
| CMDMC12 | So I have a hell of a problem. Yesterday I had the login loop problem that's fixed by deleting Xauthority. Fixed that. Today I can't log in because it says I have an incorrect password, but I can still access my samba shares using that same username and password. I've tried each desktop environment, the console available through CTRL ALT F3, and ss | 16:47 |
| CMDMC12 | h, and none of those can get in. I know I can reboot it into recovery but I'm not physically at it for another 5 hours and I have a massive file transfer that I'd like to kick off. | 16:47 |
| lordcirth | CMDMC12, you are trying to log in via a KVM/ilom, so effectively a local login, and it says wrong password? | 16:49 |
| tomreyn | seven-eleven: you can use apt-file and rmadison (devscripts) as an alternative to packages.ubuntu.com | 16:49 |
| CMDMC12 | Over teamviewer, yes. | 16:50 |
| compdoc | you set the smbpasswd and well as passwd for those accounts? | 16:50 |
| CMDMC12 | Yes | 16:50 |
| compdoc | I have never had to delete Xauthority. maybe you didnt actually fix the problem | 16:52 |
| CMDMC12 | The xauthority problem is different, it'll log in but then kick back to the login screen without any error message. I was also still able to login to the console. Now it gives an actual message of incorrect password and I can't access the console | 16:53 |
| compdoc | people log in remotely? | 16:54 |
| CMDMC12 | I'm the only one that uses it | 16:54 |
| poot | I'm wondering if the issue with the key is that the systemd unit for that disk is running before LVM has fired up. I'm assuming the crypttab ends up in the initrd somehow | 16:54 |
| seven-eleven | tomreyn, ah right | 16:56 |
| lordcirth | poot, you may need to run "sudo update-initramfs -u" | 16:56 |
| poot | lordcirth: kk - testing | 16:57 |
| poot | lordcirth: nope, no love there. | 16:58 |
| ioria | poot, are you sure the UUIDS are correct ? (both) or you can try with /dev/mapper/sdb_crypt in fstab | 17:06 |
| poot | ioria: yeah, everything's good - I just have to enter my password which is annoying | 17:09 |
| poot | I get the second password prompt after sda5_crypt's prompt so... I'm still thinking the lvm unit hasn't run and the "real" /etc doesn't exist yet. | 17:10 |
| douglasm | I'm trying to use debmirror to create a local mirror for my network to use. I'm using the --exclude-deb-section flag of the command to limit the overall size of the mirror. I'm questioning whether it's actually working though because I tried adding ALL of the sections and there doesn't appear to be working based on the packages that I'm seeing in the output. I've checked on google and many links suggest that this should work, but perhaps I'm missing som | 17:13 |
| douglasm | ething? Here is the command that I'm running: https://pastebin.com/ckwgDS7f | 17:13 |
| clarkk | where does the Software Updater app get the description of each package that's shown in the list? | 17:13 |
| douglasm | Am I using the --exclude-deb-section flag properly? | 17:13 |
| poot | nevermind the lvm unit idea. I put the key in a "clear" partition to test (/boot) and things were still wonk. | 17:17 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, uninstalled pgadmin, apache, postgresql using apt-get remove --purge command. reinstalled postgresql according to the tutorial and service is up and running. when i install the pgadmin4 and pgadmin4-apache2 it never asked me for the username and password but installed without any errors | 17:20 |
| tamarind | i started the apache service and apache runs fine | 17:20 |
| lordcirth | great | 17:21 |
| tamarind | but when i browse 127.0.0.1:8089/pgAdmin4/browser it says 404 | 17:21 |
| tamarind | not found | 17:21 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, checked if postgresql was still working and it runs fine. tried running pgadmin4 from command line and i get thishttps://ibb.co/pj2Xx9H | 17:24 |
| tamarind | https://ibb.co/PWssJJP | 17:24 |
| tamarind | https://ibb.co/rtdbfq3 | 17:24 |
| lordcirth | tamarind, you should probably ask on the postgres channel | 17:25 |
| poot | ugh... thanks for helping all... it was PEBKAC - a linefeed had creeped into my pw file when I pasted it in | 17:25 |
| lordcirth | poot, lol | 17:25 |
| tamarind | lordcirth, ok, thanks for your help till now :) good day | 17:25 |
| lordcirth | np | 17:25 |
| poot | after now though... NO THANKS :P | 17:26 |
| poot | j/k tamarind btw. | 17:26 |
| tamarind | poot, j/k ? | 17:26 |
| poot | Just kidding. I was joking with my comment about till now / after now. I'll be quiet now. | 17:27 |
| CMDMC12 | Does the auth.log file ever get trimmed? I'd be curious to see if something had gotten in while I wasn't on it | 17:29 |
| lordcirth | CMDMC12, any attacker who gets in is just going to delete all evidence | 17:33 |
| lordcirth | At best they'll be clumsy and just wipe the whole log, which at least lets you know | 17:34 |
| === douglasm is now known as flashbck | ||
| dabblerdude | Hello everyone, does anyone know how to get rid of or disable the Mozilla Thunderbird mail icon in the system tray? | 17:48 |
| dabblerdude | I'm running Ubuntu MATE 19.04. | 17:48 |
| CodeMouse92 | dabblerdude: Do you just want to uninstall it, maybe? | 17:48 |
| CodeMouse92 | Or did you want the program, just not the tray icon? | 17:49 |
| GivenToCode | Hi, we create a lot of ubuntu 18.04 vms, one of the first things we do is install the hwe kernel. We noticed it recently switched over to kernel 5.0. Is that switch documented/announced anywhere? | 17:50 |
| GivenToCode | found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support but it looks out of date | 17:50 |
| dabblerdude | CodeMouse92: I want to keep the program, but upon startup, I see the mail icon in the system tray and it stays there. | 17:52 |
| dabblerdude | There's got to be a way to remove it or hide it somehow. | 17:52 |
| dabblerdude | It's an annoyance, and if I wanted to say, try out the program and find out that I don't like it that much, and then close out the program, then I'd be annoyed with that mail icon being there. | 17:53 |
| CodeMouse92 | dabblerdude: In Thunderbird, go to the menu, Tools > Add-ons > Extensions | 17:54 |
| CodeMouse92 | I believe there is an addon called "Messaging Menu and Unity Launcher integration". Disable that. | 17:54 |
| CodeMouse92 | And then, of course, restart Thunderbird. :) | 17:56 |
| melodie | hi | 18:10 |
| melodie | I would like some help with a Helix tablet pc, where xubuntu is installed. | 18:11 |
| melodie | the issue is with the webcam which defaults to "Integrated Rear Camera" | 18:11 |
| melodie | we would like it to default to "Integrated Camera: Integrated C" | 18:11 |
| melodie | how can we do that? | 18:11 |
| tarzeau | omg | 18:12 |
| melodie | hi tarzeau | 18:12 |
| melodie | what about your god? | 18:12 |
| tarzeau | i've hardly seen any tabled useful without ios | 18:12 |
| tarzeau | i've got mine in nethack | 18:12 |
| tarzeau | chaotic, is what i prefer | 18:12 |
| melodie | what is nethack? | 18:12 |
| === Nitrogen_ is now known as Nitrogen | ||
| tarzeau | read all about it at www.nethack.org | 18:13 |
| poot | melodie: wwwwuuuuut? omg. apt install nethack-common now :D | 18:13 |
| melodie | this tablet was originally meant to be used with windows 8 | 18:13 |
| tarzeau | it's a "graphical" adventure with gods | 18:13 |
| melodie | poot thanks, I'll look | 18:13 |
| melodie | thanks tarzeau too | 18:13 |
| tarzeau | poot: your last ascension? | 18:13 |
| poot | today=n; ascention=n+1; | 18:14 |
| melodie | "NetHack is a wonderfully silly, yet quite addictive, Dungeons & | 18:14 |
| melodie | Dragons-style adventure game. " | 18:14 |
| melodie | hell! | 18:15 |
| melodie | tarzeau poot no game | 18:15 |
| tarzeau | melodie: it's great! | 18:15 |
| poot | I had it up in a terminal window at a previous job, and my boss saw it. When he asked what it was, rather than saying I was playing a game at work, I told him it was a FS mapping application. | 18:16 |
| Nitrogen | guys, update to 5.0.0 kernel which landed through HWE onto my 18.04.2 LTS is locking up my system on Steam launch or anything graphically intensive. do I roll-back and sit tight for the time being? | 18:16 |
| tarzeau | poot: lol | 18:16 |
| tarzeau | defrag for admins? | 18:17 |
| melodie | http://meets.free.fr/images/Capture-camera-options.png | 18:17 |
| melodie | Skype admits the right setup, FB doesn't. (Not my tablet, I just need to make it work for Granny) | 18:17 |
| poot | Nitrogen: Good question. Let me launch steam and see if I got hit with a problem. | 18:21 |
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: which graphics card? lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:23 |
| Nitrogen | it must be mentioned I run Ryzen 2400G which I had almost no luck stabilizing ever since it came out last February. | 18:24 |
| Nitrogen | that is until I installed AMD-sourced firmware about a month or two ago. otherwise my system was locking up in similar fashion. will put a paste together. | 18:25 |
| Nitrogen | tomreyn, https://termbin.com/q60q | 18:26 |
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: that's an integreated AMD GPU and a discrete Nvidia GPU, right? | 18:28 |
| Nitrogen | I do run off of that Vega 11 though. and logs indicate issue with it locking up. I have it specifically set as a primary GPU in the BIOS. can remove 1060 for more conclusive research. | 18:28 |
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: do you also have the xserver HWE package instslled? | 18:29 |
| poot | Nitrogen: Yeah, I've got no issues, but I'm running a NVidia / Intel CPU | 18:29 |
| jackjohn | anyone facing LAN connectivity issue with 19.04 | 18:33 |
| jackjohn | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1135412/updated-to-19-04-and-no-ethernet-now | 18:33 |
| rapidwave | Having a weird problem. Trying to work with Docker, it says PHP is 7.0.1 when it needs 7.1, but I have installed 7.2 | 18:34 |
| Nitrogen | tomreyn, I have, yes. since I was getting rather desperate with this iGPU constantly locking up over the course of last year and a half. so at one point I went as up-to-date as I could to try and make it work. | 18:34 |
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: you could also try the hwe-edge kernel, which would provide 5.2 | 18:38 |
| tomreyn | this should have yet more amdgpu fixes. while remaining on 5.0 or even 4.18 you can also try !kernelparm amdgpu.dc=0 | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | !kernelparm | 18:39 |
| ubottu | To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | rapidwave: this does not seem like an ubuntu issue, but rather one with your docker image. | 18:40 |
| dabblerdude | Hey CodeMouse92, it worked! | 18:40 |
| dabblerdude | I disabled the add-on, restarted the system, and now, the icon no longer shows up in the system tray. | 18:41 |
| dabblerdude | Thank you! | 18:41 |
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: also be sure you don't have a plain "nomodeset" ("nouveau.nomodeset" or "nvidia-nomodeset" is ok) kernelparm | 18:43 |
| Nitrogen | tomreyn, here's what it looks like https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WhPYXdkZVw/ | 18:43 |
| Nitrogen | surprisingly it did work on 4.18 for a couple months. I have just installed fresh amd firmware to see if that helps, but no dice. | 18:46 |
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: hmm this doesn't look so nice. have you reported a bug, yet? | 18:47 |
| Nitrogen | I'll be honest here, as a newer Linux user I've been largely put off from doing that by observing how bugs were handled at freedesktop bugtracker. | 18:48 |
| Nitrogen | there were dozens of reports just like mine, but they are either closed as duplicates or someone with Fedora shows up claiming 'it is fixed' for them now on some latest commit. | 18:49 |
| Nitrogen | and you're then asked to start a new report. vicious circle. | 18:49 |
| tomreyn | see it this way: reporting bugs gives you a *chance* that it will get handled (and the better the bug report the higher the chance). not reporting them gives you much less of a chance (only if someone else runs into the very same issue) | 18:50 |
| tomreyn | you don't need to report against freedesktop.org immediately, but can report against ubuntu instead. | 18:50 |
| Nitrogen | I know, I just don't think I have the courage to actually fight to get helped. | 18:50 |
| tomreyn | it could be a bug in ubuntu's kernels or other packages, after all. | 18:50 |
| Nitrogen | sorry if I'm over-dramatizing here. | 18:51 |
| Nitrogen | well, I didn't realize ubuntu handles gpu issues. it said 'amdgpu' so I figured I'd be told to go to the 'source' if that makes sense. | 18:51 |
| tomreyn | it's possible you'd be told to file it upstream after filing it against ubuntu, or not. | 18:52 |
| tomreyn | before you responded like this i just wanted to offer to have a look at your full kernel log (if you'd post it), but now i'm less motivated. see, it's a matter of mutual encouragement. | 18:53 |
| Nitrogen | tomreyn, apologies if I came across as being offensive. tbh, I really came on to try and bring this to attention of 'responsible authorities' so maybe things could be improved? | 18:58 |
| Nitrogen | I just feel helpless and exhausted being left alone with this issue for past 15 months or so. | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: not offensive, just a matter of motivating people in a mostly volunteer environment. | 18:58 |
| * tomreyn is slightly responsible but certainly no "authority" ;) | 18:59 | |
| tomreyn | those who work on fixing DRM and kernel module bugs are usually flooded with requests, so they cherry pick / favor those which are very well written and which they seem to have an easier handle on. this may seem unfair (and is also not always so) but i can very much understand it. i see filing bugs against ubuntu first also as a way of qualifying these bugs before they are pushed on to other bug trackers / mailing lists (where applicable). plus | 19:02 |
| tomreyn | you then also have a way for other ubuntu users to track those. | 19:02 |
| magic_ninja_work | how can I troubleshoot a bluetooth mouse warping? | 19:02 |
| tomreyn | !bug | Nitrogen: and filing bugs is really easy on ubuntu (yes you do need to create an account on launchpad, but that's quick and also enables you to use other services if you like) | 19:03 |
| ubottu | Nitrogen: and filing bugs is really easy on ubuntu (yes you do need to create an account on launchpad, but that's quick and also enables you to use other services if you like): If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 19:03 |
| Nitrogen | tomreyn, tbf, I also understand their approach. I just realized I don't have the knowledge it takes to provide detailed stacktraces or bisect things from an upstream kernel tree. Neither do I have detailed knowledge on relationship between kernel and graphics stack, although I'm working on it. | 19:13 |
| lotuspsychje | magic_ninja_work: to be able volunteers to help you, its best to detail your whole situation, so they can help you better, ubuntu version, hardware etc | 19:14 |
| Nitrogen | all that combined makes it tricky to even pick a starting point in the environment where technical abbreviations are flung left, right and center :) | 19:14 |
| === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius | ||
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: i'm sturggling, too, but it's happy struggling, for the most part. ;) | 19:24 |
| [itchyjunk] | Hi, my ubuntu 18.04 comes with a software called screen shot. When I open it, there are a few options. I use `select area to grab` a lot and after that `copy to clipboard`. I was wondering if there is a way to generate a shortcut? the programm itself has not settings button or any way to add shortcuts or such. | 19:24 |
| [itchyjunk] | I guess it only saves a few seconds but I figured it will be a learning experience if possible. | 19:25 |
| Dakkus | Hello! At least I found the charger for my old laptop. | 19:25 |
| Dakkus | It's got Ubuntu 17.04 on it, meaning that apt-get does nothing useful. | 19:25 |
| Dakkus | Also, upgrades fail. | 19:25 |
| Dakkus | How do I upgrade to something that functions? | 19:25 |
| sarnold | !oldreleases | 19:25 |
| Habbie | something something archive.ubuntu.com | 19:26 |
| Habbie | oh hi sarnold | 19:26 |
| sarnold | hey Habbie :) | 19:26 |
| sarnold | I was hoping the helpful bot already knew this one, but apparently not.. | 19:26 |
| sarnold | and I haven't figured out yet how to get it to list the things that it *does* know :) | 19:26 |
| sarnold | Dakkus: modify your /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d/ files to use old-release.ubuntu.com | 19:27 |
| dax | !eolupdate | 19:27 |
| dax | !eolupgrade | 19:27 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 19:27 |
| sarnold | yay thanks dax | 19:27 |
| dax | ubottu: old-releases is <alias> eol | 19:28 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, dax | 19:28 |
| AngelKde | sorry, is this convenient? switch to ubuntu 16.04 at ubuntu 18.04 ? | 19:28 |
| dax | ubottu: oldreleases is <alias> eol | 19:28 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, dax | 19:28 |
| dax | ubottu: eolupdate is <alias> eol | 19:28 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, dax | 19:28 |
| sarnold | AngelKde: can you rephrase your question? | 19:28 |
| AngelKde | or observed that ubuntu 16.04 using unity or less consumption of ram and better established compared to ubuntu 18.04. why I'm asking if if it's worth switching to ubuntu 18.04? | 19:31 |
| sarnold | AngelKde: if 16.04 works for you, that's fine; 16.04 LTS is still supported for another 1.5 years: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 19:34 |
| AngelKde | thank you sarnold | 19:34 |
| Nitrogen | will go try dc=0, although it never really worked for me. but who knows maybe this time. also I don't currently have any nouveau-specific kernel boot params. thanks for the pointers, tomreyn. and for encouragement I guess. | 19:35 |
| Dakkus | Thanks for the help, we'll see what happens :) | 19:37 |
| tomreyn | Nitrogen: that's "amdgpu.dc=0" - just an idea of what you could give a try. i'll be afk for a while but would take a look at your bug report (if you filed one until then) and full (ideally fresh, so shorter) "journalctl -b" output (if you posted this here until then) when i return. ;) | 19:38 |
| tomreyn | can't promise anything beyond this, though. | 19:39 |
| seven-eleven | what is meant by `htop_2.1.0-3.debian.tar.xz`, is it simply a tar.xz of the .deb file? see http://ubuntu.melbourneitmirror.net/archive/pool/main/h/htop/htop_2.1.0-3.dsc | 20:00 |
| seven-eleven | ah no .debian is something different | 20:02 |
| tomreyn | seven-eleven: the *.orig.tar.xz file referenced by a *.dsc file contains the upstream release package before the debian (ubuntu) patches in the *.debian.tar.xz file are applied to it. from this patched source code, a debian (ubuntu) package (*.deb) is then created. | 20:05 |
| tarzeau | it's called "source package" | 20:05 |
| KalEl | hi - what's the canonical virtual machine software i should use on ubuntu? i want to run a sandboxed version of ubuntu within itself, to test packages without messing up my installation. | 20:17 |
| Numbers23 | Hi all, I am trying to download MongoDB currently running virtual box through Ubuntu. I have tried to follow the steps on https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/ but I am unsure how to create a list file "Create the list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mongodb-org-4.0.list for your version of Ubuntu." | 20:35 |
| Numbers23 | anyone mind helping with the above question please? I realise it must be very basic but I have just started using Linux | 20:36 |
| napcae | yo gang whats up | 20:39 |
| tarzeau | Insert Coin! | 20:40 |
| poot | Numbers23: follow the instructions that immediately follow that line. | 20:40 |
| napcae | just set up a new 18.04 with raid5, apt-get is incredibly slow. its not the disk, confirmed with dd and writing speeds are ok. also rsync from another server is pushing data to the new one with around 100mb/s | 20:40 |
| poot | Numbers23: i.e. read the entire step given. | 20:41 |
| napcae | I tried different mirrors and disabled ipv6 for testing, both did not work | 20:41 |
| napcae | anyone a clue? | 20:41 |
| napcae | cat /proc/mdstat tells me that its resyncing as well at 70%, is that the issue maybe? | 20:42 |
| TJ- | napcae: that could be, but is the problem with apt the network-fetch step, or the package install/configuration ? | 20:49 |
| napcae | latter TJ- | 20:53 |
| TJ- | napcae: I'd think the resync might be part of the cause, you can get some idea with "iotop" and similar tools | 20:53 |
| napcae | "Fetched 39.9 MB in 1s (39.5 MB/s)", thats why I think its the processing part | 20:59 |
| napcae | iostats didnt show anything special | 20:59 |
| martiansoul | I am using transmission-client. Whenever I download a magnet link with that, it is unable to proceed with the download. | 20:59 |
| martiansoul | What might be the error? | 20:59 |
| napcae | https://pastebin.com/9Zk5yuiA | 21:00 |
| napcae | ^^ TJ- | 21:00 |
| akemlenovo_ | martiansoul, i would check transmission network configuration. | 21:01 |
| TJ- | napcae: md0 is the resyncing device? | 21:01 |
| napcae | yes | 21:02 |
| napcae | sorry no, md1 is the resyncing raid | 21:02 |
| martiansoul | akemlenovo_ What specifically should I check in the network configurations? | 21:03 |
| martiansoul | I'm not sure about which port to use for incoming connections. | 21:03 |
| TJ- | napcae: if /var/cache or /var/lib is on md1 then it could be causing delays, but you've not yet shown at what point apt-get is being slow and in what way slow | 21:03 |
| akemlenovo_ | martiansoul, the interface/ip - but i use qbittorrent so i couldn't help much with transmission, maybe they have a dedicated channel on freenode? | 21:04 |
| martiansoul | akemlenovo_ Thanks! | 21:05 |
| Numbers23 | managed to get MongoDB downloaded and running but trying to install YCSB now through the command "sudo apt install git clone git://github.com/brianfrankcooper/YCSB.git" but it can't find any package | 21:06 |
| napcae | TJ-: https://djvollnarkose.de/Screenshot%202019-08-02%20at%2023.04.39.png thats only 88mb to download and extract | 21:07 |
| napcae | look at the timestamps, its taking too long for an i7@3,4ghz | 21:07 |
| napcae | TJ-: everything is on /, so /var/cache and /var/lib is on md1 as well. why would be that an issue? | 21:09 |
| TJ- | napcae: I strongly suspect the issue there is the system has just upgraded core libraries related to the device-mapper and you've got an underlying resync operation going. My bet is some processes are using the old libraries and newer processes are using the upgraded library and its caused a problem. | 21:18 |
| napcae | ok, how would I check if thats the case? thank you for your help so far btw! | 21:20 |
| napcae | or how can I fix this? will this fix itself when the resync is finished? | 21:21 |
| Akuw | hi | 21:23 |
| tarzeau | hi | 21:23 |
| Akuw | i delete ESXi partition but still cant boot | 21:23 |
| Akuw | there is some kind of custom screenshot that i dont know where comes from | 21:24 |
| seven-eleven | can I find the hashes of .deb packages somewhere or are only the hashes of .orig.tar.xz (upstream release package) and patches (.debian.tar.xz) distributed? | 21:24 |
| martiansoul | akemlenovo_: I am using qbittorrent now. But still, the download with that magnet link is not starting. | 21:24 |
| akemlenovo_ | martiansoul, In the bottom right of the window there is a number of connected nodes, do you see it or is it 0 ? | 21:26 |
| martiansoul | Showing DHT nodes: 0 | 21:27 |
| martiansoul | akemlenovo_^ | 21:28 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, ok, click "tools > options" then "advanced" in the down left part of the window. | 21:29 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp Yes. done | 21:30 |
| akem-hp | Then you will see "network interface", select the correct network interface you are connected with, then just underneath that there is the optionnal IP address to bind to, select your main IP, ipv4 preferably. | 21:30 |
| akem-hp | Then after that click applyn then ok, then wait 5 secs to see if the numbers of nodes changes. | 21:30 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp: Okay, I'm trying that. | 21:31 |
| TJ- | napcae: I'd thinkn after the resync, and possibly a reboot, it *should* be fixed | 21:33 |
| napcae | finish in 199min ;_; | 21:34 |
| napcae | ok I'll wait then, thank you | 21:34 |
| seven-eleven | hashes of .deb packages are stored in /var/lib/apt/lists | 21:35 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp: it's still showing 0 DHT nodes | 21:36 |
| TJ- | napcae: is anything else other than apt affected? Also, have you checked logs for any indications of problems? e.g. "journalctl -b -p warning" or 'follow' it with "journalctl -fb" | 21:37 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, strange, check still int the option window in the "BitTorrent" section that "Enable DHT" is enabled - btw what did you put for interface and ip? | 21:38 |
| martiansoul | I put wlps60 for interface, and 192.168.159.14 for IP | 21:41 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp ^ | 21:41 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, also try to add another torrent like the Ubuntu ISO maybe or something popular to see if it connects/find peers. | 21:41 |
| martiansoul | Enable DHT has been checked. | 21:41 |
| melodie | gn | 21:42 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, I just noticed in the configuration of the interface and IP you can select "any interface" and "any ip", you can also try that to see :/ | 21:43 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp Okay. I can try that. | 21:44 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, on the main window there is a tab named "Execution log" click it, and check if it displays any errors. | 21:44 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp: 8/3/19 3:06 AM - qBittorrent didn't find an IPv4 local address to listen on | 21:46 |
| martiansoul | This is the error that is showing. | 21:46 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, You should have something like https://pastebin.com/z8Qtmiap somewhere (i masked the external IP there) | 21:46 |
| napcae | TJ-: I don't see anything particular in that log | 21:47 |
| napcae | which would stand out | 21:48 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp: https://pastebin.com/uhu43DPf | 21:48 |
| martiansoul | This is my execution log. | 21:48 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, Try to force the network interface and IPv4 in the options, like you did earlier, and quit then restart qbittorrent :/ | 21:48 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, no it's fine, forget what i said | 21:48 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp: what might the error be? | 21:50 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, it should be fine, try this torrent: http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent | 21:52 |
| akem-hp | It should start right up, and you should see seeds/peers etc, tell us if it works. | 21:52 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp: yes it downloaded. | 21:54 |
| martiansoul | That means that the magnet links that I am using are faulty. | 21:55 |
| martiansoul | I'm sorry for the inconvenience | 21:55 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, no, your other torrent might have little seeds so you'll have to wait. | 21:55 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp: okay. | 21:55 |
| akem-hp | martiansoul, is your DHT nodes count still 0? | 21:55 |
| martiansoul | Yes. | 21:55 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp, the ubuntu-iso has downloaded. | 21:56 |
| akem-hp | That's strange, maybe it's because you don't have any connected peers yet, i'm not sure how it starts to find DHT, i just know mine is never 0 when i got connection. | 21:58 |
| akem-hp | That's good, means it works fine. | 21:58 |
| TJ- | I wonder if there is a firewall/DPI upstream of the host filtering it? | 21:59 |
| akem-hp | I don't know :/ but since he was able to download Ubuntu torrent it should be fine with other torrents too. | 22:02 |
| dax | you don't need working DHT to download ubuntu torrents | 22:02 |
| dax | you do need working DHT to use magnet | 22:02 |
| akem-hp | Sometimes you have to wait a long time when there is no seed. | 22:02 |
| akem-hp | No you don't, it was just to check connectivity some times ago, messing with interface/IP binding. | 22:03 |
| sarnold | if you've got firewalling or NAT in place that means peers can't contact you, you can also only contact peers that have better network configurations than you do -- which might not be many | 22:03 |
| akem-hp | Because it usually easy to see the node count change when you have good configuration, for me at least. | 22:04 |
| akem-hp | Yes for optimal configuration you have to open ports on your router etc. | 22:05 |
| akem-hp | Here i use VPN so i don't do such thing, ISP are sometimes monitoring torrent traffic when it's not encrypted. | 22:06 |
| Numbers23 | anyone have experience with running Hbase in pseudo distributed mode? I can establish a shell session but when I go to try create a new table I get the error: "ERROR: KeeperErrorCode = NoNode for /hbase/master" | 22:09 |
| martiansoul | akem-hp, why is it that trying to download the same 'ubuntu-iso' through torrent again after deleting the main file results in no progress as well. | 22:12 |
| tomreyn | Numbers23: /join #ubuntu-server | 22:14 |
| akemlenovo_ | martiansoul, you need to right click the torrent, then recheck the file, or delete it from the torrent client which will ask if you want to keep the file or not. | 22:17 |
| parak0vsky | how to disable notorious screen shield stuff after screen resume, the extension works on and off at times and this not makes me happy | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | I'd like to be able to route connections through a proxy server set up on my LAN iff I'm connected to my home WiFi network. Is there an easy way I can do this without relying on connect hooks? | 22:30 |
| tsimonq2 | If possible I'd like to do this completely through the CLI. | 22:30 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: policy routing | 22:31 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: Do you have any docs that you often refer to that can save me the 10 mins of Googling? | 22:33 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: my memory :) | 22:33 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: So let's say I have an 18.04 system, how would I go about doing this? | 22:34 |
| tsimonq2 | How would you do it, from memory? | 22:34 |
| magic_ninja_work | So, basically, I have a built-in bluetooth chip on my laptop and a bluetooth mouse. I'm getting choppy / laggy performance. It warps and such. I'm not quite sure what is going on there or how to troubleshoot it. | 22:36 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: there's a basic idea here https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/58635/iptables-set-mark-route-diferent-ports-through-different-interfaces | 22:36 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: in your case though it wouldn't be different interfaces, it'd be a different gateway | 22:37 |
| magic_ninja_work | Well, hold on. I'm going to pack up and head home to troubleshoot it. | 22:38 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: Thanks. | 22:38 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: I think this is a better guide, less cruft around the core principles http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.netfilter.html | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: ack | 22:41 |
| sarnold | the standalone website's probably been updated better https://lartc.org/howto/ | 22:42 |
| TJ- | I prefer TLDP, the CSS around the code is much easier to spot | 22:44 |
| some | I need help gettin a distribution release. Am running 18.10 Cosmic. https://paste.debian.net/plain/1094126 | 22:53 |
| some | *distro-upgrade | 22:53 |
| sarnold | some: can you pastebin your sources? | 22:54 |
| some | sarnold I did | 22:55 |
| some | no i did not | 22:55 |
| some | excuse me | 22:55 |
| some | https://paste.debian.net/plain/1094127 | 23:03 |
| some | sarnold: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1094127 | 23:03 |
| sarnold | cool.. | 23:03 |
| sarnold | some: ubuntu doesn't host any onion mirrors | 23:03 |
| sarnold | some: when you run apt-get update do you actually contact anybody? do you get the lists and so on? | 23:04 |
| some | sarnold: apt-tranport tor does not require the repositories to be .onion | 23:05 |
| some | sarnold yes it goes through and updates apts from "clearnet" servers | 23:06 |
| some | *packages | 23:06 |
| sarnold | some: I wouldn't be surprised if do-release-upgrade doesn't know how to cope with tor as a transport | 23:06 |
| some | sarnold: my thoughts exactly | 23:07 |
| _Sym_ | Hi. I'm on 18.04 and something weird happened recently. When I type "make clean" on my sources, I get the following message, "(standard_in) 1: syntax error" | 23:07 |
| _Sym_ | anyone have any idea what caused that? | 23:07 |
| some | sarnold: could mirrors be to busy? | 23:07 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: a shell alias for "make"? a different 'make' being called due to the shell's hash-path ? | 23:08 |
| sarnold | _Sym_: what's your Makefile's clean: target look like? | 23:08 |
| _Sym_ | It happens with any kernel I have | 23:08 |
| sarnold | some: no, the mirrors aren't saturated at the moment | 23:08 |
| _Sym_ | sarnold, just default makefile for 4.19.63 | 23:09 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: does this affect the "make" command for all source-code, or just a particular package? | 23:09 |
| _Sym_ | all, TJ | 23:10 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: then check which 'make' is being used "which -a make" | 23:10 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: also, if using bash "hash" | 23:10 |
| _Sym_ | TJ, /usr/bin/make | 23:10 |
| some | sarnold: okay...is not playing well with apt-transport-tor then | 23:12 |
| _Sym_ | The only thing I can think of that changes is java8 beind updated | 23:12 |
| _Sym_ | being* | 23:12 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: who wrote the Makefile that defines this "clean:" target you're calling? | 23:13 |
| _Sym_ | TJ, its just the default kernel from korg | 23:13 |
| _Sym_ | but its happening for all my projects | 23:14 |
| _Sym_ | all my kernel projects | 23:14 |
| some | sarnold: Do you know a trustworthy source/mirror i can curl or wget and I will build from source | 23:14 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: right, so you're on about the Linux kernel source-code specifically | 23:14 |
| _Sym_ | yeah, TJ | 23:14 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: are they all in one git repo or in different directories? | 23:15 |
| _Sym_ | I could try something else | 23:15 |
| _Sym_ | different directories | 23:15 |
| sarnold | some: it'd be best to just change to http, do your upgrade, then change back.. | 23:15 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: I'd strace the make command and see if it reveals where the error is originating | 23:15 |
| some | sarnold: okay | 23:15 |
| some | sarnold: thank you | 23:16 |
| sarnold | some: have fun :) | 23:17 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: are you sure there's no "-" being added to the command-line so it is actually executing something like "/usr/bin/make - clean" ? | 23:17 |
| _Sym_ | TJ, yeah. I just type "make clean" and I get the error | 23:18 |
| _Sym_ | TJ, I'm sure its from some recent ubuntu update | 23:21 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: "strace -f -o /tmp/make.strace make clean" then "pastebinit /tmp/make.strace" | 23:23 |
| _Sym_ | TJ, https://pastebin.com/T4Nuk0kq | 23:31 |
| _Sym_ | not sure you want the entire log | 23:31 |
| _Sym_ | bu thats the part with the error | 23:31 |
| sarnold | please pastebin the whole thing | 23:32 |
| _Sym_ | sarnold, the log is 27MB | 23:33 |
| sarnold | hah :) that's about 26M more than I expected | 23:34 |
| _Sym_ | sarnold, but it happens on line 1227 | 23:35 |
| _Sym_ | so you can see it if I just post the first 2000 lines or so | 23:35 |
| sarnold | are you sure? those numbers are pids, not line numbers.. | 23:35 |
| _Sym_ | oh sorry | 23:35 |
| _Sym_ | you are right, its on line 245859 | 23:36 |
| sarnold | I wonder how large the various pastebin sites can go; xz -e out ; base64 out.xz --> 1.1M | 23:38 |
| _Sym_ | sarnold, https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117929353 | 23:41 |
| _Sym_ | TJ, ^^ | 23:42 |
| _Sym_ | zipping it reduced it to a few megs | 23:43 |
| sarnold | woot | 23:44 |
| beeblebobblywobb | testing | 23:45 |
| _Sym_ | brb | 23:51 |
| TJ- | _Sym_: the error seems to happen after kernel/time/timeconst.bc is read | 23:55 |
| sarnold | TJ-: in my own make clean calls I never execute that bc script | 23:59 |
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