 I should try my hand at making that 18.04 rootfs I wanted to do, I wanna make it with upstream packages though so it basically maintains itself rather than someone here having to devote time to maintaining a fork of a package that likely does the same thing
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 Billie Eilish Pirate Baird like it here so far? personally I love the risk of firmware updates without using a ups
 @Mc_yolodude [Billie Eilish Pirate Baird like it here so far? personally I love the risk of fi …], Wrong group?
 @imraniqbal [Wrong group?], right group he was wondering how he was here
 I wanted to give him a hint that I invited him
 I'm saving up for a new phone if I do us ubunto I wanna know how it is like for others
 [Edit] I'm saving up for a new phone if I do use ubunto I wanna know how it is like for others
 It's really good, if it suits your use-case.  Not going to be everyone's cup of tea.
 could I get something like vlc 3.0 working on it?
 anime from my sd card playing no matter what format would be great on the bus
 @Mc_yolodude [I'm saving up for a new phone if I do use ubunto I wanna know how it is like for …], I love the peace of mind that come with a Smartphone I can trust. No spyware and not even bloated with adware.
 certainly sounds like my cup of tea
 @Mc_yolodude [could I get something like vlc 3.0 working on it?], Searching back in the history here, it looks kind of hit and miss.
 You can get it running in Libertine, not sure how usable it is going to be, though.
 torrenting anime to my old phone has been pain since the app store vlc is kinda shit
 What video format?
 mkv
 Maybe the UTMedia app?
 same for avi?
 Possibly, I haven't tested that.
 I mean dvd like options where you get diffrent optional subtitles and choices for audio are nice but phones old phone struggle
 [Edit] I mean dvd like options where you get diffrent optional subtitles and choices for audio are nice but phones old struggle
 Maybe someone else will come along with more info.
 hopefully a weabo can guide me to a brighter future where I can watch anime off an sd card that I just torrent over to last night the lastest episodes of anime that night
 on the bus since I have no plan and no data
 I know the solution to your problem
 stop watching anime
 @idontwannabeyouanymore [stop watching anime], Thanks for being helpful.
 @Mc_yolodude [mkv], Just tested, works on UTMedia.
 oh sweet
 @imraniqbal [Thanks for being helpful.], I know it's pretty good advice
 I don't wanna be a productive memeber of society yet thou
 @Mc_yolodude [same for avi?], This doesn't seem to be working.
 @idontwannabeyouanymore [I know it's pretty good advice], Maybe I agree with you... but it's not helpful in this context.
 oh lovely god has come to judge us
 in the form of steven
 Just tested - mkv works on default Media Player core app, as well as on the mpv desktop app (via Libertine).  mpv shifts the hue incorrectly though.  UTmedia app did not play mkv.
 [Edit] Just tested - mkv works on default Media Player core app, as well as on the mpv desktop app (via Libertine).  mpv shifts the hue incorrectly though.  UTmedia app did not play mkv. (tested on Meizu Pro 5 running RC channel)
 @TotalSonic [Just tested - mkv works on default Media Player core app, as well as on the mpv …], It's funny, we got the opposite (N5 `devel` here).  I couldn't get `mkv` working on the default Media Player app!
 @imraniqbal [It's funny, we got the opposite (N5 devel here).  I couldn't get mkv working on …], yeah, Nexus 5 has very device specific issue with video playback through the core Media Player app.  Hopefully OTA11 will bring a fix for thar
 @imraniqbal [It's funny, we got the opposite (N5 devel here).  I couldn't get mkv working on …], [Edit] yeah, Nexus 5 has very device specific issue with video playback through the core Media Player app.  Hopefully OTA11 will bring a fix for that
 @TotalSonic [yeah, Nexus 5 has very device specific issue with video playback through the cor …], But the really interesting thing is that `mkv` is working on UTMedia for me.
 @imraniqbal [But the really interesting thing is that mkv is working on UTMedia for me.], strange that results should be backwards on that!
 Exactly.  At least there appears to be a workaround for us in the meantime.
 mp4 seems less problematic as far as format compatibility on UT seems to go
 @TotalSonic [mp4 seems less problematic as far as format compatibility on UT seems to go], `avi`?
 going to test now
 avi won't play in Media Player or UTmedia.  It did play in mpv - again with hue incorrectly shifted, and it seems (at least in the one test I did) with audio distorted as well
 Thanks for testing that out.
 will try some other media player options in Libertine as well
 just need to see what won't crash
 Does anyone knows if UT has a firewall incorporated ? Like ufw?
 ok SMplayer installs in Libertine and will play mkv and avi (with audio correct) but again with hue shifted for both, and with incorrect aspect ratio in some views as well.
 hmmm - VLC actually installs and works ok for me on Meizu Pro 5 - and played mkv and avi with correct colors - but its gui is not responsive - you need to open via clocking on the video file in File Manager and then select VLC from the list of available apps - and audio bypasses UT's volume controls so you can not turn the audio down f
[08:46] <ubptgbot> rom its default.
 [Edit] hmmm - VLC actually installs and works ok for me on Meizu Pro 5 - and played mkv and avi with correct colors - but its gui is not responsive - you need to open via clicking on the video file in File Manager and then select VLC from the list of available apps - and audio bypasses UT's volume controls so you can not turn the audio
[08:46] <ubptgbot>  down from its default.
 @TotalSonic [hmmm - VLC actually installs and works ok for me on Meizu Pro 5 - and played mkv …], Can you change the volume from within VLC itself?
 @imraniqbal [Can you change the volume from within VLC itself?], the gui is not responsive on just the phone.  I can try with my bluetooth keyboard/trackpad and see - will try that later
 sweet so mkv will work
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Fy0NKb58.mp4
 can finally catch up on black clover
 I'm going to track you down in real life
 i wanna be up to date before their 100's episode
 ok all joking aside what's this group about? and who added me?
 so remeber how I talk to the king of hacker's about an alteriavte OS option for my dino?
 [Edit] so remeber how I talked to the king of hacker's about an alteriavte OS option for my dino?
 Totem - which has a slightly more usable gui on the phone than the other desktop video players - drops most of the frames in avi - amd crashes UT to a reboot on opening mkv.  Oh well.
 reboot?
 the whole phone?
 @idontwannabeyouanymore [ok all joking aside what's this group about? and who added me?], anyways I added and this about changing the operating system on your phone for example from windows to linux
 yup - I am just testing different desktop video player apps on UT.  The core Media Player app should work if you are not on Nexus 5 though
 [Edit] yup - I am just testing different desktop video player apps on UT.  The core Media Player app should work fine if you are not on Nexus 5 though
 [Edit] Totem - which has a slightly more usable gui on the phone than the other desktop video players - drops most of the frames in avi - and crashes UT to a reboot on opening mkv.  Oh well.
 Billie Eilish Pirate Baird I need a as close to universal player as possible for my phone
 @Mc_yolodude [anyways I added and this about changing the operating system on your phone for e …], 1. Why would I switch from Windows to Linux if I'm not even running windows lol
 @idontwannabeyouanymore [1. Why would I switch from Windows to Linux if I'm not even running windows lol], you run random blue screen of death deluxe
 @Mc_yolodude [Billie Eilish Pirate Baird I need a as close to universal player as possible for …], so you can torrent anime
 @Mc_yolodude [Billie Eilish Pirate Baird I need a as close to universal player as possible for …], [Edit] so you can torrent anime?
 Ubuntu Touch offers an alternative to Android and iOS.
 @Mc_yolodude [you run random blue screen of death deluxe], my computer doesn't blue screen it just takes naps
 @idontwannabeyouanymore [so you can torrent anime?], is there another purpose to live?
 because it has autism
 and that's not something you should make fun of it for
 I know your computer has autism that's why I showed you the anti vax video's for it
 could you believe youtube took away their adsense?
 also best part about stuff like unbuntu on a old laptop or desktop for example
 btw - this group is specifically for Ubuntu Touch related issues - general discussion is better done elsewhere
 I was wondering if anyone would care or if 2250 memebers means no one try's to read chat without searching
 also ubunto ususally has lower specs for the requirements
 so it makes my dino's feel new
 just a heads up - I am not an administrator but off topic stuff gets shut down as soon as one is on here
 @Mc_yolodude please keep this group on topic. For general chit-chat we have https://t.me/UBportsOF Thank you :)
 Billie Eilish Pirate Baird alright let's abandon ship for now I understand that anything besides a nexus 5 with enough horse power means I can watch render anime on the bus
 yeah I still don't know what I'm doing here lol
 firm ware
 Billie Eilish Pirate Baird but changing firm ware on anything usually brick's it
 unless you know
 you don't unplug it halfway
 I feel like chat was longer?
 Ubuntu Touch only currently works on a small list of devices though
 linage and other options that are decent are also only working on small list's
 @Mc_yolodude [I feel like chat was longer?], Ok, that's enough. You'll be banned if you keep talking OT
 ot?
 Off Topic
 If your going to ban me now do I get to say one last joke?
 is your fridge running?
 what do i need to do to create a version of ubuntu touch for my mi 8 lite (platina) device?
 @Hawaii005 [what do i need to do to create a version of ubuntu touch for my mi 8 lite (plati …], you'd need to create a port using Halium. do you have experience in compiling software and maybe a little software development?
 @Hawaii005 [what do i need to do to create a version of ubuntu touch for my mi 8 lite (plati …], Please see http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html to get a general view about the necessary steps
 you can also join our Telegram porting group and ask questions specific to porting there: https://t.me/ubports_porting
 hi,the other day my bq e4.5 with new battery and ota9 was suddenly off.
 @fredldotme [you'd need to create a port using Halium. do you have experience in compiling so …], sorry but my understanding is very little about. … I will read as much as possible about the subjects.
 when trying to switch it on it showed 54% battery level,but couldn't switch it on,only after leaving it on power until it reached about 63%. Is this normal?
 @advocatux [Please see http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html to get a …], Is there any other group in Portuguese? … if there is it would be better to take any doubts that arise.
 https://t.me/ubports_pt
 thanks
 👍
 How do I send a file via BT from 1 FP2 to another FP2? The sending phone is UT OTA-9 and receiving phone is Android.
[12:19] <ubptgbot> <Tobs End> Jipiiiie, the Teleports Update is available!
 @southsidetoker [How do I send a file via BT from 1 FP2 to another FP2? The sending phone is UT O …], Have you tried https://open-store.io/app/ubtd.fourloop2002?
 If that doesn't work you can try by wifi (https://open-store.io/app/wifitransfer.costa)
 @Tobs End [Jipiiiie, the Teleports Update is available!], Yeah was a long journey
 someone reply on this plz
 @Flohack [someone reply on this plz], Hi :)
 @advocatux [Hi :)], once more plz ^^
 @Flohack [once more plz ^^], Roger that
 @Flohack [once more plz ^^], Hello!
 Thanks, for the moment not more needed ;)
 (Photo, 1280x387) https://irc.ubports.com/qAs7r5jg.png So as you can see here, there's a few colored bars followed by space followed by more colored bars
 The goal is figuring out why there's space
 According to the profiler, we're doing nothing between the time we start dragging and when the "right edge drag" animation happens. Nothing.
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 Quantum spacetime … Maybe that's what the Q in QML stands for :)
 @Flohack [Yeah was a long journey], awesome! did it include the automatic scrolling on the last read message? that's mainly the reason why I still use Webtelegram
 great work nonetheless 😁
 @Javacookies [awesome! did it include the automatic scrolling on the last read message? that's …], Are you in the QA group?
 nope
 8Wma8oVyJF9A
 Time to change your password @hacker12455
 what happened?
 Paste
 But he is a hacker
 Do ubuntu touch webapps support the browser notification api?
 @ian_mcxa [Do ubuntu touch webapps support the browser notification api?], no, they do not
[17:08] <wozencroft> For transfering files syncthing might be an option too
 that's extremely annoying, is there any way to bridge native dbus apis to the html5 app environment?
 @wozencroft [For transfering files syncthing might be an option too], I would love to have syncthing ported
 @ian_mcxa [that's extremely annoying, is there any way to bridge native dbus apis to the ht …], that I do not know
[17:10] <wozencroft> ian_mcxa: I thought it is working on ubports
 I saw a version for 15.04 in the openstore but nothing for 16.04
[17:14] <ubptgbot> Joan Albert Erráez was added by: Joan Albert Erráez
[17:16] <wozencroft> Ah, ok, I see
 @ian_mcxa [I would love to have syncthing ported], UBsync works really well as an alternative if you have a NextCloud server or account set up
 we might be able to build on this https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtwebengine-webenginewidgets-notifications-example.html
 but would only send when the browser is focused i think, without creating some kind of extra service
 @advocatux [Have you tried https://open-store.io/app/ubtd.fourloop2002?], aha! now i know what fourloop is
 push notifications from web when not focused, is really hard to do properly and securely
 @dohbee [push notifications from web when not focused, is really hard to do properly and …], Regarding that, can you reply me fort a supergroup push test ^^
 @Flohack [Regarding that, can you reply me fort a supergroup push test ^^], meh
 @Flohack [Regarding that, can you reply me fort a supergroup push test ^^], hmmm
 Wait ine more plz
 @Flohack [Wait ine more plz], Yep
 @Flohack [Wait ine more plz], sure
 Ok thx works ^^
 @dohbee [meh], One for Rodney to rant about tdlib. I get different chat id´s via the push server, and need to fix as follows: ```else if (custom.keys().contains("channel_id")) { …         tag = custom["channel_id"].toString(); …         chatId = (tag.toLong() + 1000000000000) * -1;```
 Now testing normal groups. Or channels or wtf everything has a different offset in tdlib
 :<
 How to unlock bootloader meizu mx4?
 You can't. See here for instructions on installing Ubuntu Touch on an Android MX4: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html#install-on-legacy-android-devices
 I wonder if these special steps would work for newer devices as well
 I doubt samsung devices would work, but who knows
 Thank's
 @Tygerpro [I wonder if these special steps would work for newer devices as well], you mean the legacy device instructions? no, definitely not
 I doubt it would, but has anyone tried juat for grins?
 I have nexus 5 with ubuntu touch and work fine but i want another phone to my work and i buy meizu mx4
 @Tygerpro [I doubt it would, but has anyone tried juat for grins?], since Ubuntu was never shipped on newer retail devices, there is no such image to flash to said devices
 But we could use other images could we not?
 @Tygerpro [But we could use other images could we not?], what other images?
 you can't flash the bq image to some random device, no
 you are going back to the problem of "every device has a specific image"
 A factory one for example, I understand thatd be pointless, but for sake of argument
 well, presumably newer devices already have factory images on them
 unless you flashed something else to them first
 the only reason this special method is needed for the bq/meizu devices, is because the Ubuntu Edition versions of those devices, have different partition layouts than the Android versions, and the Ubuntu Touch images are built to that spec
 Im more curious how the image is put on a brand spanking new device at the factory, I wonder if the software used for legacy devices would work for that
 no, not unless they are MTK devices, as it's a tool for MTK
 Hey @dohbee, since you're here, got any pointers where to look on this animation delay? I tried profiling it but only got here: https://t.me/ubports/221393 … 170ms of delay where nothing is happening
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Yivjwuwf.mp4
 It shouldn't snap like that. It should start instantly.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hey @dohbee, since you're here, got any pointers where to look on this animation …], the "170ms" is in the "Animations" line there?
 Everything but the scene graph does nothing for 170ms... and the scene graph is just syncing
 Ok, I have ODIN for my samsung devices (which I successfully downgraded back to oreo with after a tech upgraded to pie) and I need a .pit file if I wanna do anything with partitions
 @UniversalSuperBox [Everything but the scene graph does nothing for 170ms... and the scene graph is …], what component is used for that? SwipeArea or something?
 It's a SwipeArea, yeah
 And the Transition to go from staged to the right animation assigns some 17 bindings
 do other SwipeAreas have a similar issue?
 No, the Launcher is dead-on
 And as the console says, the Stage realizes you're dragging right away
 I'd expect there to be something interesting in the trace if it's a binding getting evaluated for that long, though
 It's just barren
 I do have the trace file if you like. Pop it into Qt Creator and it'll at least show where in the file things are happening.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/pdBgbPaX.bin
 https://github.com/ubports/unity8/blob/xenial_-_edge/qml/Stage/Stage.qml#L109
 is `altTabPressed` getting set on the shell?
 I thought that might be it, so I set the Timer's interval to 1
 Didn't seem to change much
 hmm
 No, it is not set
 this happens on device too i guess?
 There are a few animation problems in general, so I've started at https://github.com/ubports/unity8/blob/xenial_-_edge_-_unity8-switch-animations/qml/Stage/Stage.qml
 And that's what I'm working off of
 @dohbee [this happens on device too i guess?], Yes
 add a `console.log(new Date().getTime());` to `onDraggingChanged: {}` ?
 Sure, anywhere else?
 Let's see, how about the state change
 hmm, maybe. i guess you'll want to add some additional text in front to know which is which then, though
 Of course
 Grr, X forwarding getting broken
 ```qml: 1564862451344 Dragging! … qml: 1564862451344 state changed to stagedRightEdge … qml: 1564862451461 new progress is 0.7412305116800001```
 With Progress being the progress of the stage transition as seen by StagedRightEdgeMaths, which does all the calculations
 which appears to be ~120ms later?
 Yeah
 StagedRightEdgeMaths is implemented as JavaScript, maybe the first run of all of those bindings is just really slow somehow?
 It's weird that everything after that initial binding is really slow though
 Er, everything after the initial binding is fast
 It's all in that initial "snap"
 Which doesn't appear to be a problem for non-edge builds
 it seems consistently slow on my n5
 switching between two apps
 So the quick switch animation is separate
 See also https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1121#issuecomment-517890295
 It appears that swiping quickly to instantly get the Spread only takes about 40ms from start of drag to state change
 seems consistently slow here 🤷‍♀️
 Hmm, it is worse when the entire Shell is part of the equation
 I'm testing against the Spread only
 ```qml: 1564863301894 Dragging! … qml: 1564863301894 state changed to stagedRightEdge … qml: 1564863302016 new progress is 0.88940613088```
 Not so bad in tryShell
 Same thing
 can't think of anything else from a quick skim of the code, right now unfortunately. :-/
 dives back in facefirst
 breaks neck
 @dohbee [no, not unless they are MTK devices, as it's a tool for MTK], so granted we managed to build an image for a random mtk device that tool could flash it despite the lockedbootloader?
 @Fuseteam [so granted we managed to build an image for a random mtk device that tool could …], no, you'd need a factory image thing to flash using that tool
 ah hmmm
 factory image thing a fit :3
 OKAY. So it is an animation causing this. Setting all animation durations to 1 millisecond greatly reduced the time for StagedRightEdgeMaths to wake up.
 Got it. It's due to the transition that's meant to move us to and from Desktop mode. It didn't have a `to:` property set, so it played before the appropriate transition did.
 And Transitions block other Transitions
 Oh my gosh it feels so much better
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/TyAqIqOb.webp
 @UniversalSuperBox [Oh my gosh it feels so much better], Amazing. Glad you found the answer
[22:50] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> Thanks to all the Teleports developers and contributors, the current update with location sharing view is awesome
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/i0P9nHOg.png
 hmmm - Location attaching seems to have disappeared for me
 I was on 0.3 Beta - then uninstalled and installed Open Store version
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/cNXBuTtM.png