[09:45] <spicey> hello, creating my bootable usb stick with ubuntu studio here, i wonder does ubuntu studio 19.04 uses GNOME? and if so, can Unity also be installed on ubuntu studio like i just did with my ubuntu 18.04 lts distro?
[09:51] <M_aD> spicey: no, Xfce
[09:52] <spicey> ow ok
[09:52] <spicey> i wonder if i will like it
[09:53] <spicey> i'm about to replace ubuntu 18.04 lts with unity desktop by ubuntu studio
[09:53] <M_aD> it's a great thing we can have a look through a live session and then decide to install it or not
[09:53] <spicey> creating my usb stick now
[09:54] <M_aD> good luck
[09:55] <spicey> yeah well i read enough i know i want it for the software alone would save me some time and nice to have all interesting stuff i want to try together
[09:55] <spicey> thx hehe
[09:57] <spicey> truth is i only have one stick available lol
[09:57] <spicey> so had to erase ubuntu 18.04 lts
[09:57] <spicey> i can always switch back with some extra efforts :p
[09:58] <spicey> would have tried the live session otherwise
[10:29] <TJ-> you can install studio 'on top' of any Ubuntu install, using the package "ubuntustudio-desktop"
[10:37] <spicey> ow thanx
[10:51] <M_aD> TJ-:  wrong, if you want to install Ubuntu Studio on top of another flavor you need ubuntustudio-installer
[10:51] <M_aD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioInstaller
[10:52] <M_aD> ubuntustudio-desktop pulls in xfce too which means you end up with multiple DE's
[10:53] <TJ-> M_aD: well that works for me! I use Xubuntu :)
[10:53] <M_aD> spicey used plain ubuntu 18.04 lts which is gnome :)
[21:04] <cjoke> I have this message when I start ardour, [ERROR]: LADSPA: cannot load module "/usr/lib/ladspa/lsp-plugins-ladspa.so" (/usr/lib/ladspa/lsp-plugins-ladspa.so: undefined symbol: _ZN3lsp17builtin_resourcesE) , I installed the whole lsp-plugins package. that includes lv2, vst aswell. Will I miss something if I dont install ladspa package, isnt everything in lv2 (as in ported over)? Or do I want that
[21:04] <cjoke> package ? :->
[21:06] <cjoke>  1.1.10~ubuntu18.04.1
[22:02] <OvenWerks> you may wish to rename /usr/lib/ladspa to /usr/lib/ladspa.disabled
[22:03] <OvenWerks> There are some applications that can only use ladspa plugin like lmms
[22:14] <cjoke> OvenWerks: ahh, sorry, I ment lsp-plugins-ladspa
[22:15] <cjoke> maby I should just locate sleepgear  | grep pillow :]
[22:16] <OvenWerks> there are a number of ladspa plugins that have trouble being in the same machine as the lv2 version
[22:20] <OvenWerks> most of those bugs have sinse been fixed, but in general if the ladspa plugins are not needed I don't install them. But then, I don't use lmms because my particular workflow doesn't work with lmms. For many computer music makers it does.
[22:21] <OvenWerks> It is also ok to use only the ladspa plugins and not install the lv2 version, but that does mean no gui besides the generic one.
[22:21] <cjoke> I looked up lsp-plug.in and there was some options while compiling. I havent looked into it yet, but if I can compile without ladspa I guess I get all the plugins using only lv2 format. I am using ardour mainly, since Im a livemusician with wood and strings
[22:22] <OvenWerks> also, ladspa does not support synths, it just effects audio
[22:22] <OvenWerks> for Ardour, LV2 is the right choice
[22:22] <cjoke> well, if I need ladspa, I can run the application in a virtualenv and route it to the compiledversion they desire :)
[22:23] <cjoke> thanks :)
[22:23] <OvenWerks> as I said, just renaming the ladspa directory will make it vanish temporarily
[22:24] <cjoke> yea, probably easiest choice :D
[22:26] <cjoke> now, im gonna make out with pillow , gn! thanks ! :)
[22:42] <spicey> ok managed to install ubuntu studio, still not sure if i like this xcfe desktop thing, i need to find ways to make it look more atttractive.
[22:42] <spicey> not sure if making 'starters' is what i should do if i want all icons of my favorite programs together
[22:42] <OvenWerks> spicey: xfce is pretty much similar to gnome2
[22:43] <spicey> i wished i could add them to a tool bar or something like that not sure if i use correct english here
[22:43] <OvenWerks> spicey: you can make a second panel either horizontal or vertical
[22:43] <spicey> ow nice
[22:43] <OvenWerks> then stuff it with starters
[22:43] <spicey> that's what i want
[22:44] <spicey> aha
[22:44] <OvenWerks> or groups of starters
[22:44] <spicey> lemme see
[22:44] <OvenWerks> http://i.imgur.com/fTiIVve.png
[22:45] <OvenWerks> spicey: ^ that is the botton left of my screen
[22:45] <spicey> ow yes this i need
[22:45] <OvenWerks> You can basically drag icons from the menu to the panel
[22:46] <spicey> first find out how to add a panel
[22:46] <OvenWerks> right click on the panel
[22:46] <OvenWerks> choose panel-> pereferences
[22:47] <OvenWerks> At the top it probably says Panel 0
[22:47] <OvenWerks> beside that is a + use that to add a second panel
[22:47] <OvenWerks> sorry gotta run for a bit. Gotta get a chicken in the oven
[22:47] <spicey> ow yes i got it
[22:48] <spicey> thx for the help
[23:16] <spicey_> ok nice, creating a right panel with my favorite programs' icons
[23:16] <spicey_> i think i could get used to this