| ubptgbot | <noisebro> hey guys | 00:05 |
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| ubptgbot | <noisebro> how do i register an account at fluffychat? | 00:05 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> i've entered my username and password, then pressed sign up and nothing happens | 00:06 |
| ubptgbot | <mariogrip> sorry for asking this, but are you connected to web? does the browser work? | 00:08 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> yes m8, i am | 00:08 |
| ubptgbot | <mariogrip> Okey :) just making sure | 00:08 |
| ubptgbot | <mariogrip> huh? it says "Registration has been disabled on this homeserver." on ubports.chat | 00:09 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Registration has been disabled on ubports.chat for about a month | 00:10 |
| ubptgbot | <mariogrip> @noisebro [yes m8, i am], can you try using "https://matrix.org" as homeserver? | 00:10 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> and while installing snapcraft or debugging fluffychat - i've connected to two local networks, which is "mpqemubr0" and "tap" | 00:11 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> is this normal thing, or im doing something wrong? | 00:11 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> @mariogrip [can you try using "https://matrix.org" as homeserver?], how can i do that? | 00:11 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> oh | 00:11 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> @noisebro [how can i do that?], found that | 00:12 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> "no connection" | 00:12 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> and its been set to matrix.org bby default | 00:13 |
| ubptgbot | <mariogrip> You could try registerering on the web https://riot.im/app/#/register | 00:14 |
| ubptgbot | <mariogrip> and the login on fluffychat | 00:14 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> it worked, thank you very much | 00:18 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> is there any ways i can adjust the scaling of the app? | 00:20 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> cuz on my 1080p screen it looks a bit silly | 00:20 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @noisebro [is this normal thing, or im doing something wrong?], sounds plausible for running fluffy from snap | 00:25 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @noisebro [is there any ways i can adjust the scaling of the app?], `export GRID_UNIT_PX=16` maybe (that should make it double sized) | 00:26 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> @dohbee [export GRID_UNIT_PX=16 maybe (that should make it double sized)], ehhh... where do i type it? | 00:26 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> sorry im kinda noob | 00:26 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> in the shell you're running fluffy from. or put it in your `~/.profile` or `~/.bashrc` maybe, and log out then back in | 00:27 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> ehh, i didn't run it from the shell, i did it from the ui | 00:28 |
| ubptgbot | <Sebastien Vienneau> Podofo 2 Din Car Stereo Android 8.1 Car Radio with 7 inch TFT Capacitive Touch Screen Support GPS Navigation Bluetooth USB SD AM/FM Radio/Reverse Camera Input https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07QKZDN6P/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_oOVrDbZBD7HNC | 01:01 |
| ubptgbot | <Sebastien Vienneau> @Sebastien Vienneau [Podofo 2 Din Car Stereo Android 8.1 Car Radio with 7 inch TFT Capacitive Touch S …], Can I install Ubuntu Touch on this? | 01:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> no | 01:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io are what you can install it on | 01:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @Sebastien Vienneau [Can I install Ubuntu Touch on this?], If your really insistant on running UT on that you could probably port it if you can find drivers and what not, but UT wasnt really designed for automotive radios | 01:34 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> Why are all of the supported devices for UT like 5 years old? | 01:56 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Tygerpro [If your really insistant on running UT on that you could probably port it if you …], it says oreo, so no porting it for now | 01:56 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Jonathan [Why are all of the supported devices for UT like 5 years old?], they aren't. but because phones aren't PCs, and so every device requires special builds and special care to get working, and keep that way, and there aren't many people doing that | 01:57 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Jonathan [Why are all of the supported devices for UT like 5 years old?], support for newer devices are in the works hehehehe | 01:57 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> and fixing the issues with getting UT working on top of halium, as well as halium working on android 8+, are a bit on hold as there are more pressing matters in UT itself to deal with | 01:58 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> I see. I want to use UT but can't because the devices it supports currently just suck compared to my phone | 01:58 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> well that's certainly your opinion | 01:58 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> No it's objectively true. | 01:58 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> no you're right, "suck" has been used in scientific dissertations for centuries, what was i thinking | 01:59 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> actually they work fine i have almost no issues compared to android devices with the same specs :3 | 01:59 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @dohbee [no you're right, "suck" has been used in scientific dissertations for centuries, …], expecially when it comes to drainage ;) | 02:00 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> Oh you write scientific dissertations? Wow what are you doing on here with us lowly retards? | 02:00 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i'm on a mission to civilize. you can start by not using slurs for mental illnesses | 02:01 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> either way unless you have at least tried it i would advice against judging their performance | 02:01 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> @dohbee [i'm on a mission to civilize. you can start by not using slurs for mental illnes …], You could start by not being a retarded asshole | 02:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> @Fuseteam [either way unless you have at least tried it i would advice against judging thei …], I have. I bought an Ubuntu phone and it hardly functioned | 02:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> I couldn't maintain phone calls. Missed phone calls. Hardly got any reception | 02:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> Etc. | 02:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> when did you last do that? | 02:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> i have no such issues | 02:03 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Jonathan [You could start by not being a retarded asshole], https://ubuntu.com/community/code-of-conduct | 02:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> or was it 4g related? | 02:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> Do what? Use it? Like 2 years ago. I finally just bought a new phone | 02:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> @dohbee [https://ubuntu.com/community/code-of-conduct], Nice that you can be a dick and then turn around an try to lecture people on their behavior. Shove it up your retarded ass | 02:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> it has come a long way since 2 years ago lol | 02:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Jonathan> I'm not so sure about that. But maybe | 02:03 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Jonathan [Nice that you can be a dick and then turn around an try to lecture people on the …], @UniversalSuperBox @mariogrip care to intervene? | 02:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> for one it was taken over by this community and for 2 it has been updated to xenial | 02:04 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> @Jonathan [Nice that you can be a dick and then turn around an try to lecture people on the …], Get out | 02:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @Jonathan [I'm not so sure about that. But maybe], If I may, alot can happen in 2 years, and I would advise that you read the link Rodney posted as your current behavior violets it | 02:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> .... | 02:05 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Never seen anyone with such a large ... obstruction ... in an orifice | 02:06 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> ....... i suppose | 02:06 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> I have better words Id like to use, but Id get banned myself if I did lol | 02:07 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> lol that be a loss | 02:07 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> It's just someone who needs to make someone else feel bad to have some agency in their life. Pay no mind. | 02:08 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Dwelling on it makes them feel powerful | 02:08 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @UniversalSuperBox [It's just someone who needs to make someone else feel bad to have some agency in …], Or the TL:DR version, a bully | 02:08 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @Fuseteam [lol that be a loss], ThAt would be a tragic loss IMO | 02:09 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> well....imo if a bully spits fire one shouldn't throw oil but hey | 02:09 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Don't dwell on it | 02:09 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Tygerpro [ThAt would be a tragic loss IMO], exactly :p no need to play yourself up tho xD we all appreciate ya | 02:09 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> It's done | 02:09 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Fuseteam [well....imo if a bully spits fire one shouldn't throw oil but hey], i don't know, throwing oil on a bully spitting fire seems very appropriate :P | 02:09 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> lol | 02:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Lol, good show at the very least | 02:10 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> nothing like a little dance dance immolation | 02:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Anywho, new topic | 02:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> like how the fixes in ota 10 seems promising aside from those who may or may not have benefitted from ip geolocation? | 02:11 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Do you think if I asked Samsung super duper nicely they'd tell me how to unlock the bootloader on my note 8 to port UT? | 02:11 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> probably not | 02:11 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> you already got a no, but you can get a yes ;) | 02:12 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> I dont know, it is a last gen device, most companies tend to stop caring when the devices are either near or at EOL | 02:12 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> aka asking is free, as is refusal xD | 02:12 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> or not lost in asking :p | 02:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] or nothing lost in asking :p | 02:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Im just trying to figure out if I should email Samsung global or Samsung US | 02:14 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Why not both? | 02:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> in short just ask don't ponder :) | 02:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Hmm ... the other issue is, lets say they say "sure, heres how" but its something they wont let me distribute, then what | 02:15 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> hmmm then you........ask them to host the link xD | 02:16 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Lol, I doubt Ill even get a response, but Ill go email them now, anything I can say to help butter them up? Lol | 02:17 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> good question lol | 02:17 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> I know if i word it as "can you pwease tell me" theyll say "talk a long walk off a short cliff" lol | 02:18 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> how about pointing out ut aligns with their dex goals hence is a viable alternative to android in case google goes rogue xD | 02:18 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Hmm ... I have a sneaking suspicion they are still working on their own OS, behind the scenes | 02:19 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> and completely opensource unlike some android parts :p | 02:19 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> tizenOs eh | 02:19 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Maybe Tizen, could be something different altogether, they only went Android cause they couldnt compete apps wise | 02:20 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> at least they'll know UT is still very much alive uf you get through to them muhehehe | 02:20 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] at least they'll know UT is still very much alive if you get through to them muhehehe | 02:20 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> i suppose common belief is you need at least 100k users to sustain an app store | 02:21 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> 2/100% completed | 02:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Lol, I wonder if we could make ot an open letter to manufacturers for EOL devices? | 02:23 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> I think this might be something worth doing, @UniversalSuperBox any objection to me working on an open letter to manufacturers for EOL devices? | 02:25 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Tygerpro [Lol, I wonder if we could make ot an open letter to manufacturers for EOL device …], could be an idea | 02:27 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> I think its a great idea, I will wait till I get more feedback before I start the actual process of composing the letter, that way if people say its a bad idea or theres no interest then I wont be wasting time | 02:29 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> I've got a reallly old Samsung, I'd love to have the bootloader unlocked | 04:02 |
| ubptgbot | stucazz9 was added by: stucazz9 | 08:42 |
| ubptgbot | <stucazz9> hi! can i install ubuntu touch on my asus trasformera tf101 1b115a? | 08:43 |
| ubptgbot | <stucazz9> [Edit] hi! can i install ubuntu touch on my asus trasformer tf101 1b115a? | 08:44 |
| ubptgbot | kcalbkcrad was added by: kcalbkcrad | 08:51 |
| ubptgbot | <mimecar> @stucazz9 [hi! can i install ubuntu touch on my asus trasformer tf101 1b115a?], No, you can not | 08:55 |
| ubptgbot | KD was added by: KD | 09:05 |
| ubptgbot | <stucazz9> @mimecar [No, you can not], why | 09:40 |
| ubptgbot | <mimecar> Is not a supported device | 09:48 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> There is like 6 or seven supported devices, two of which is old devices that runs ubuntu tuch by default | 09:50 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> Like, six years ago someone planned to produce the phones that would be bases on ubuntu touch, but there was not enough iterest on that device, so it didnt go further | 09:52 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> Anyway, they managed to release few phones before it's shutdown | 09:52 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> I guess I'm right. And if im not - unports community can explain where i was wrong and were i was correct | 09:53 |
| ubptgbot | <alan_griffiths> Obviously, the biggest error is that the project has not been shut down. If you can get that wrong, we don't need to consider the rest. | 09:57 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> Well, i wasn't really observing it so much, but i thought it's been shut down few years ago | 09:58 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> That's kinda surprise for me | 09:59 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> Anyway, where can i get one? Is there any official dealer? | 10:01 |
| ubptgbot | <alan_griffiths> I read "it's shutdown" as Ubuntu Touch. Canonical did talk a couple of manurfactures into shipping a (very limited) number of phones. Although they sold out those manufacturers didn't get on board. | 10:09 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @noisebro [There is like 6 or seven supported devices, two of which is old devices that run …], Well this is wrong to start, 6 of the supported devices were retail Ubuntu Edition devices. | 10:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Stefano0101> It's a pitty, that all the revelations about spying, privacy and security risks/leaks from Android and iOS , Facebook, Google, etc, did not happen 5-6 years ago. Today might be a different sittuation on mobile market. UT would be probably adopted by general public. (or not ? ).Maybe 10-20 % market share. Just my guess. And yes, newer | 10:53 |
| ubptgbot | devices, maybe even purpose built Linux phones ,not repurposed Androids :-) But future is BRIGHT,. Librem 5, Pinephone...is happening. Little bit late, but better than never. | 10:53 |
| ubptgbot | <ulrichard> @noisebro [Like, six years ago someone planned to produce the phones that would be bases on …], Yeah the interest was so low that each batch they released was sold out in half a day. | 11:13 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> Well, there was not a lot of them, so... | 11:14 |
| ubptgbot | Pietre was added by: Pietre | 11:23 |
| ubptgbot | <Pietre> @stucazz9 [hi! can i install ubuntu touch on my asus trasformer tf101 1b115a?], ubuntu touch officially no, but ubuntu arm if you can, tegra 2 is a processor supported by the mainline kernel, and you also have a bootloader (u-boot) to run the kernel, it's possible, but it's about 3 hours of compilation | 11:29 |
| ubptgbot | <alan_griffiths> The problem then, as now, is that phone manufacturers are not interested in the niche that Ubuntu Touch fills. They don't believe it is big enough to bother with. … I believe that market assessment: Most of the people I know don't care about the privacy and security issues with their phones, and I expect the general population car | 11:30 |
| ubptgbot | es even less. | 11:30 |
| ubptgbot | <Pietre> Hello everyone, my name is pietre, I bought an aquaris e 4.5 and I have installed the latest version of ubuntu phone, I love it, | 11:30 |
| ubptgbot | <Ralph> Hi guys, the display of my nexus7 often activates without a reason. Do you know this Problem? | 11:35 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> @alan_griffiths [The problem then, as now, is that phone manufacturers are not interested in the …], this is true, most people care more about convenience than privacy … I've heard many comments about me that I'm doing unnecessary inconvenience with UT 😂 | 12:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Stefano0101> @alan_griffiths [The problem then, as now, is that phone manufacturers are not interested in the …], They might be sorry for that behavior later in their life. Once Big Brother have the info/photo/file, there is no going back. And general population will only care when it starts to hurt. Anyway, now UBports community can live on and | 12:05 |
| ubptgbot | care for UT and the people who cares about privacy/security... same story as with Windows, as all the problems are exposed ( not all, just some of them ) and people got hurt (also companies, institutions ) some paying attention, some pay ransom... Some might explore either options (Linux, BSD) some won't care at all. … Market-wise is probably low | 12:05 |
| ubptgbot | profit, or nill profit, so that's why companies are not interested. But few might be. We'll see. | 12:05 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> looks like there's an on-going attack of spam bots 😅 | 12:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Stefano0101> @Javacookies [looks like there's an on-going attack of spam bots 😅], Are you a bot ? | 12:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Stefano0101> @Javacookies [looks like there's an on-going attack of spam bots 😅], 😀 | 12:14 |
| ubptgbot | <advocatux> @Javacookies [looks like there's an on-going attack of spam bots 😅], Yes, I've banned several of them here and on Matrix this morning. … Free vacation for spambots 😄 | 12:16 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> and now I'm craving for spam😂 | 12:17 |
| ubptgbot | <advocatux> Don't miss this offer! 🤑 … Buy a UT supported device & get helpdesk for free!! ⛑ | 12:21 |
| ubptgbot | <thedenomparkour> @advocatux [Don't miss this offer! 🤑 … Buy a UT supported device & get helpdesk for free!! ⛑], List it plox | 12:21 |
| ubptgbot | <thedenomparkour> Btw MIUI gsi anyone tried?? | 12:22 |
| ubptgbot | <advocatux> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ | 12:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Aury88> @TotalSonic [I don't have any major problems with UT - it's been the OS for my daily driver ( …], Is it an unav peoblem or are they missing address in openstreetmap. Keep in mind osm lack complete coverage in areas without enought contributors | 13:01 |
| ubptgbot | <aa_sokolov> C-Python-like-Decorators/README.md at master · TheMaverickProgrammer/C-Python-like-Decorators · GitHub … https://github.com/TheMaverickProgrammer/C-Python-like-Decorators/blob/master/README.md | 13:06 |
| ubptgbot | <Aury88> @TotalSonic [I don't have any major problems with UT - it's been the OS for my daily driver ( …], [Edit] Is it an unav peoblem or are they missing address in ? Keep in mind osm lack complete coverage in areas without enought contributors | 13:09 |
| ubptgbot | <loretg> Ralph https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/291 | 13:39 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @stucazz9 [hi! can i install ubuntu touch on my asus trasformer tf101 1b115a?], Sadly no, iirc that is a Tegra 2 device and it is unable to launch the GUI for UT | 13:48 |
| ubptgbot | <Ralph> thanks @loretg , didn't found the issue, big thanks.. i'll read it later | 14:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Aury88> @TotalSonic [I don't have any major problems with UT - it's been the OS for my daily driver ( …], [Edit] Is it an unav peoblem or are they missing address in openstreetmap? Keep in mind osm lack complete coverage in areas without enought contributors | 14:27 |
| ubptgbot | <Cesar_Herrera> @alan_griffiths [The problem then, as now, is that phone manufacturers are not interested in the …], Our war is lost. | 14:28 |
| ubptgbot | <alan_griffiths> @Cesar_Herrera [Our war is lost.], That does not follow. But we need a manufacturer interested in a compatible niche, not a mainstream one. | 14:29 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> what I can't understand is why phone manufacturers don't seem to want to serve ANY niche | 14:30 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> No keyboards, no 4" phones | 14:30 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> no sd cards, no removable batteries | 14:30 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> Niche does not bring money, its easy | 14:30 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> They are corrupted by the millions of devices they can sell on mainstream lol | 14:31 |
| ubptgbot | <mimecar> Users want slim big screen phones | 14:31 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> it's really weird tho because you see so many phones totally fail in the market because they are all exactly the same | 14:32 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> say what you want about the librem 5, it got preorders | 14:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Cesar_Herrera> Privacy today is not possible. | 14:32 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @mimecar [Users want slim big screen phones], not really | 14:34 |
| ubptgbot | <mimecar> Is not easy find 4'' phones | 14:35 |
| ubptgbot | <Kumar Abhishek> @Cesar_Herrera [Privacy today is not possible.], But why..? | 14:37 |
| ubptgbot | <Ralph> everywhere are cameras 👀 | 14:39 |
| ubptgbot | <malditobastardo> That's not an excuse | 14:39 |
| ubptgbot | <malditobastardo> That's what everyone says | 14:39 |
| ubptgbot | <malditobastardo> Why should I care about my privacy if they know already everything and I am not doing anything ilegal ? | 14:40 |
| ubptgbot | <malditobastardo> Not a good argument at all | 14:40 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @Javacookies [and now I'm craving for spam😂], I hate spam, weirdly im fine with vienna dausages though | 14:40 |
| ubptgbot | <Ralph> @malditobastardo [Not a good argument at all], totally right | 14:41 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @malditobastardo [Not a good argument at all], Not to mention the big 2 farm your info for profit | 14:44 |
| ubptgbot | <Cesar_Herrera> @Kumar Abhishek [But why..?], You have to give your data when you do something and these data will be collected for other things. | 14:47 |
| ubptgbot | JawHead was added by: JawHead | 14:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Sign up for email? … Give your name, a backup email, a phone number, and a password, all sellable info | 14:49 |
| ubptgbot | <Ralph> then don't do this things | 14:49 |
| ubptgbot | <Ralph> use cash, use bicycle, read a book | 14:50 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> mmm, https://t.me/UBportsOF ;) | 14:50 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Person hacks said email, they now have said info, and can get the public data on you to steal your identity, pretty much anything online has privacy issues to manage, its the vicious circle of privacy | 14:51 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> pointless arguments about how you think there is no privacy, or it doesn't matter, aren't going to change things, and aren't going to make UT better or more secure/private. let's concentrate on doing the latter though :D | 14:52 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Agreed, there are things we can do to help allieviate it | 14:53 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> I'd like to improve the APIs available from the HTML5 environment | 14:54 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> I think if I could do that, we could get some seriously good apps in place for more obscure things | 14:54 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> but that's gonna be a huge undertaking | 14:54 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> I wish I had my N5 back, I havent had time to get to my grandmothers to get it back | 14:55 |
| ubptgbot | <alan_griffiths> @ian_mcxa [but that's gonna be a huge undertaking], Find a slice of that which delivers some of the benefit for a managable chunk of work. | 14:56 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> I'd like to get some kind of way to call arbitrary system code from the HTML 5 code | 14:57 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> mainly so I can access the dbus apis | 14:57 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> that sounds insecure :P | 14:57 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> what are you trying to do exactly though? | 14:58 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> Notifications from HTML5 | 14:58 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> not using 3rd party servers | 14:58 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> So web notifications? | 14:58 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> mhmm | 14:58 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> eventually I'd like to be able to use some kind of background services thing | 14:59 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> that would be problematic for battery | 14:59 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> should be okay if it's done right | 15:00 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> we've gotta have something for backrgound services | 15:00 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> You might be able to pull that off making a middle layer thing, one end takes info from browser, other sends to dbus and doesnt give web browser direct access | 15:00 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Maybe call it a notification layer? | 15:00 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> yeah | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> running a browser VM constantly with service workers talking N different servers, is not going to be good for battery no matter how "right" the implementation is | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> well ideally I'd like to have the browser VM only run when the app is open | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> and you'd need some way to transition service workers from one browser VM to the other | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> web service workers may be the wrong way to go | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> then you won't get background notifications and you don't need a background service, etc | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> I think I get the end goal, but like Rodney said, itll murder battery life, might be worth having a toggle for it | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> you'd need proper push notifications, to optimize for resource consumption on the device | 15:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Which iirc UT doesnt currently have | 15:03 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> really I want something cron-like that could run small bits of code at an interval | 15:03 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> UT does have proper push notifications | 15:03 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> I'd like to have some way to get access to the native device features from HTML5, but that's a separate idea | 15:04 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @ian_mcxa [really I want something cron-like that could run small bits of code at an interv …], there is a thing which will run a thing at intervals so you can poll a server for notifications; but it can get out of hand quickly for more than a service or two | 15:04 |
| ubptgbot | WILMER WALSH was added by: WILMER WALSH | 15:04 |
| ubptgbot | <WILMER WALSH> hi | 15:04 |
| ubptgbot | <WILMER WALSH> [Edit] continued to wait too enough time with this likely to get rich nowadays http://t.cn/AiWXRtzb | 15:04 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> oh a spammer, how quaint | 15:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Lol | 15:05 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @WILMER WALSH [continued to wait too enough time with this likely to get rich nowadays http:// …], @advocatux @wayneoutthere @UniversalSuperBox @mariogrip spam spam | 15:05 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Rodney why arent you an admin in here, I swear tou live in here sometimes lol | 15:05 |
| ubptgbot | <Kumar Abhishek> @Cesar_Herrera [You have to give your data when you do something and these data will be collecte …], 😐😐😐😐 | 15:07 |
| ubptgbot | <stucazz9> @Tygerpro [Sadly no, iirc that is a Tegra 2 device and it is unable to launch the GUI for U …], :(perfetto | 16:04 |
| ubptgbot | <stucazz9> @Tygerpro [Sadly no, iirc that is a Tegra 2 device and it is unable to launch the GUI for U …], [Edit] :( | 16:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> You can certainly try to port it if you really want to, but you would likely be better off putting regular linux on it (google is your friend) | 16:30 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> or sending it off to be recycled and getting better hardware :) | 16:31 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> That is an option as well, my tf201 has ubuntu on it, its old af at 12.04LTS but still | 16:33 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> @ian_mcxa [not using 3rd party servers], home raspi setup, that acts as a go between and sends out a push notification | 16:59 |
| ubptgbot | dozob was added by: dozob | 19:18 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> Hi everyone | 19:19 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> Is it ok to install Ubuntu touch on device with Tegra cpu? | 19:21 |
| ubptgbot | <sativista> @dozob [Is it ok to install Ubuntu touch on device with Tegra cpu?], There is a way to unlock bootloader? … There is a version of Lineage OS for this device? | 19:26 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @sativista [There is a way to unlock bootloader? … There is a version of Lineage OS for this …], It’s Asus ME301T and the last that I found it’s OmniROM based on 4.4. | 19:28 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @dozob [Is it ok to install Ubuntu touch on device with Tegra cpu?], there are no supported devices with tegra | 19:29 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> if you want to attempt a port to one, you're welcome to | 19:30 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @ian_mcxa [Notifications from HTML5], fwiw, chromium already has native notifications support, though i don't know if the version our current QtWebEngine is based on does for sure, nor if web notifications can be enabled in morph currently, but it should be technically possible at this point, to get native notifications from webapps while | 19:33 |
| ubptgbot | they are in foreground (or in background in case you manually disable the app lifecycle management for them) | 19:33 |
| ubptgbot | <ian_mcxa> that would be cool | 19:33 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @dohbee [if you want to attempt a port to one, you're welcome to], I’m not experienced for that. I took old tablet from grandma and found that last android 4.4, but it has possibility to create customs. So I also thought about UT cause it could be nice experience | 19:39 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @dozob [I’m not experienced for that. I took old tablet from grandma and found that last …], https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io is the list of supported devices | 19:43 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @dohbee [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io is the list of supported devices], Yeah, also there are instructions to create your own with Hallium. Now I realize that it’s not easy | 19:47 |
| ubptgbot | Jinhoon Kim was added by: Jinhoon Kim | 20:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Jinhoon Kim> Hi | 20:33 |
| ubptgbot | <Jinhoon Kim> UBPorts SM-N960(crownlte) - note 9 supports? | 20:34 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> no; https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io | 20:34 |
| ubptgbot | <Jinhoon Kim> https://github.com/Halium/halium-devices manifests too? | 20:39 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @dohbee [if you want to attempt a port to one, you're welcome to], With a Tegra 3, is there a way to even get a GUI on it? I already have an unlocked tegra 3 tablet | 20:40 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @Tygerpro [With a Tegra 3, is there a way to even get a GUI on it? I already have an unlock …], Which one? | 20:41 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Tygerpro [With a Tegra 3, is there a way to even get a GUI on it? I already have an unlock …], sure, just not one that will be usable | 20:41 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> wasn't someone trying to get a build for nexus 7 2012 again? | 20:41 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> though maybe they gave up :P | 20:41 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @dozob [Which one?], I have a Asus TF201 | 20:42 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @dohbee [sure, just not one that will be usable], Hmm, maybe a UT fork that utilizes a light weight GUI and Gnome or something then? | 20:43 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i wouldn't call gnome lightweight. but it sounds like you mean pmOS or plasma mobile at that point | 20:43 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Well whatever I end up using, Id like it to be Ubuntu Based | 20:44 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @Tygerpro [I have a Asus TF201], You could use 7.1 lucky guy | 20:44 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Yeah, I also have the keyboard dock too | 20:44 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Tygerpro [Well whatever I end up using, Id like it to be Ubuntu Based], well, i guess first thing to do would just get halium built for it | 20:45 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> though not sure why the ubuntu part is important if you are relegated to debs and xorg :) | 20:45 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @Tygerpro [Yeah, I also have the keyboard dock too], Now I have me301t and me302c, but first stopped developing by anyone, second locked from begging | 20:46 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> Lol, I have used this tablet with desktop ubuntu, ran quite stable but was slow cause no drivers | 20:46 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> @dozob [Now I have me301t and me302c, but first stopped developing by anyone, second loc …], No unlock for second one? | 20:47 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @Tygerpro [No unlock for second one?], Yeap | 20:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Tygerpro> That sucks | 20:47 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> It's intel-based | 20:47 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> so it's EFI then? | 20:48 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @dohbee [so it's EFI then?], Don't know | 20:49 |
| ubptgbot | Laura Morley was added by: Laura Morley | 21:28 |
| ubptgbot | <Laura Morley> hi | 21:28 |
| ubptgbot | <Laura Morley> [Edit] oh yeah waited really longer for this is this true? consider a seem with this http://t.cn/Ai9joBhB | 21:28 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> sheesh | 21:30 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Laura Morley [oh yeah waited really longer for this is this true? consider a seem with this h …], @UniversalSuperBox @advocatux @wayneoutthere @mariogrip sam | 21:30 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Laura Morley [oh yeah waited really longer for this is this true? consider a seem with this h …], [Edit] @UniversalSuperBox @advocatux @wayneoutthere @mariogrip spam | 21:31 |
| ubptgbot | <mariogrip> @dohbee [@UniversalSuperBox @advocatux @wayneoutthere @mariogrip spam], again... | 21:31 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> yep. join, say hi, and immediately edit the message to spam something. 🤦♀️ | 21:36 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> @dohbee [fwiw, chromium already has native notifications support, though i don't know if …], i think you just have to program how to handle them, i saw a page about it | 21:47 |
| ubptgbot | <liberacuriser> @dozob [Which one?], Ahoj, if anything, Russian chat: https://t.me/ubports_ru | 23:17 |
| ubptgbot | <dozob> @liberacuriser [Ahoj, if anything, Russian chat: https://t.me/ubports_ru], Tnx | 23:18 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> @mateosalta [i think you just have to program how to handle them, i saw a page about it], oh, in 5.13 it looks like... | 23:19 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @mateosalta [oh, in 5.13 it looks like...], Oh, not 5.11? | 23:25 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> maybe | 23:25 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> nope | 23:26 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtwebengine/+/205716 | 23:26 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> looks like 5.13 will be a big one for the wanted features, first text selection and now notificayions | 23:27 |
| ubptgbot | <einserpasch> @TotalSonic [in the USA the "Pepe the Frog" memes have been coopted by so called "alt-right" …], I've heard about that, too. but what I can't understand is how a cartoon frog can become racist, just because its used by racists. not like it is their symbol (like a swastika is), they just use it. … I use it amongst friends just because | 23:30 |
| ubptgbot | it is a good cartoon an I am very far from being a white supremacist. can't you say that using the frog in a normal context can cure it from its Nazi-connotations? I think so! … but after all not using it is a question of respect towards people who do get offended. … this is what I had to say about that. sorry for being so long! | 23:30 |
| ubptgbot | <einserpasch> to get back to the UT topic: … what can I do when I cannot turn wifi on anymore. the buttons are gone ... | 23:32 |
| ubptgbot | <einserpasch> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/NCBiNqnK.png | 23:32 |
| ubptgbot | <einserpasch> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/7I0IXkYP.png | 23:32 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @einserpasch [I've heard about that, too. but what I can't understand is how a cartoon frog ca …], You don't understand swastikas either then. | 23:42 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @einserpasch [to get back to the UT topic: … what can I do when I cannot turn wifi on anymore. t …], Reboot? | 23:42 |
| ubptgbot | aminul chowdary was added by: aminul chowdary | 23:57 |
| ubptgbot | <aminul chowdary> hi | 23:57 |
| ubptgbot | <aminul chowdary> [Edit] OMG, continued to wait furthermore longer for this range this away http://t.cn/Ai9joBhB | 23:57 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> @dohbee call for an admin sir | 23:58 |
| ubptgbot | <noisebro> Oh | 23:58 |
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