| tarzeau | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bugs?field.searchtext=snap&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_p | 07:57 |
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| tarzeau | atch=&field.has_no_package= | 07:58 |
| tarzeau | i really wonder why ubuntu forces users into snap | 07:58 |
| tarzeau | and if 20.04 will be so as well or not | 07:58 |
| lotuspsychje | tarzeau: i think that will depend how much user oppose to it | 08:03 |
| lotuspsychje | tarzeau: think in this stage, all we can do is file alot of bugs | 08:04 |
| tarzeau | i'm testing building chromium-browser backports from debian... | 08:36 |
| tarzeau | and we just had weekly meeting, considering like google, switch to debian | 08:36 |
| TJ- | tarzeau: I think the rationale for a lot of the snap packaging (by Canonical) is to make rolling release style for rapidly changing projects less of a headache to manage - which in the regular release process would be constant SRUs and/or backports | 08:49 |
| tarzeau | i don't want rolling release for rapidly changing projects. and that'd be possible with deb packages perfectly fine too | 08:51 |
| tarzeau | once i'm done with pip2/python2 removal, i'm certainly not adding snap. i'll get rid of pip and snap both at the same time, by 20.04. and building chromium-browser is PITA, so it'll be no option to create an autobuild. much easier to just switch to debian again (we had it for years after all) | 08:53 |
| tarzeau | unity was the only reason (among nvidia officiall supporting ubuntu) to have ubuntu | 08:53 |
| tarzeau | (and oh well the fixed release dates, but fine if i don't have them anymore) | 08:54 |
| TJ- | tarzeau: rolling release for .deb wouldn't be possible if the package has extensive dependencies on external library versions that keep being changed | 08:54 |
| tarzeau | TJ-: chromium-browser doesn't. i'm able to do a simple autobackport of chromium-browser (sid) to bionic | 08:55 |
| tarzeau | i'm more concerned about companies doing this: https://mathpix.com/ | 08:56 |
| tarzeau | provide their software for linux ONLY via snap, no source | 08:56 |
| TJ- | tarzeau: right, but snap is aimed at more than chromium, I think that was part of the original thinking behind snaps. The major aim being to allow 3rd party developers to easily add proprietary applications | 08:57 |
| tarzeau | does matlab, mathematica, maple already exist as snaps? | 08:57 |
| tarzeau | idl? | 08:57 |
| TJ- | I have no idea I don't allow snaps | 08:57 |
| tarzeau | that's been solved by environment-modules and spack | 08:58 |
| tarzeau | what is your antispyware measures? | 08:59 |
| tarzeau | we also have snaps operated away for 18.04 LTS machines | 09:00 |
| tarzeau | the report back on installation (if you say no, it reports back you want to opt out) the motd reports machine/memory/etc infos | 09:00 |
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