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 Hi, … Someone know how can I install Ubuntu on my galaxy note 10.1? … I don't use it anymore because of Android. So I need a alternative. … Thanks at all
 Anybody has tried to install UT edge..
 @Klausraem [Hi, … Someone know how can I install Ubuntu on my galaxy note 10.1? … I don't use it …], you would need to port it  - http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html … and http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 @TotalSonic [you would need to port it  - http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-step …], The problem is that my tablet is not listed on a compatibility list. … When I port it, do am I able to install any OS that I want?
 @Klausraem [The problem is that my tablet is not listed on a compatibility list. … When I port …], I have never ported any device so I can't help with that.  You might want to ask at the Halium channel - https://t.me/halium
 @TotalSonic [I have never ported any device so I can't help with that.  You might want to ask …], I'll check it, thank you
 @dohbee [You don't understand swastikas either then.], Good thing you do...
 @dohbee [Reboot?], I'm having this problem for months now...
 @dohbee [You don't understand swastikas either then.], [Edit] Good thing you do...  … and how much you know about I know about the sun symbol used by Buddhists for example. I never had the impression being in a Nazi temple when visiting a buddhist temple, seeing swastikals all over the place.. … I get your point but I think in this ca
[09:18] <ubptgbot> se you can't look at it in a black and white way but a grey way...
 @dohbee [You don't understand swastikas either then.], [Edit] Good thing you do...  … and how much you know about I know about the sun symbol used by Buddhists for example. I never had the impression being in a Nazi temple when visiting a taoistic temple, seeing swastikals all over the place.. … I get your point but I think in this ca
[09:19] <ubptgbot> se you can't look at it in a black and white way but a grey way...
 @dohbee [You don't understand swastikas either then.], [Edit] Good thing you do...  … and how much you know about I know about the sun symbol used by Taoists for example. I never had the impression being in a Nazi temple when visiting a taoistic temple, seeing swastikals all over the place.. … I get your point but I think in this case
[09:19] <ubptgbot>  you can't look at it in a black and white way but a grey way...
 @einserpasch [I'm having this problem for months now...], If it does not appear again after reboot, then perhaps your wifi-module my be broken?!
 @einserpasch [I'm having this problem for months now...], [Edit] If it does not appear again after reboot, then perhaps your wifi-module may be broken?!
 Within these month I have rebooted a couple of times...
 Is there a way to check if it's really broken or if it's a software problem?
 @einserpasch [Good thing you do...  … and how much you know about I know about the sun symbol us …], This isn't a temple, standing for a thousand years, with the symbolism of a cartoon frog, as part of some ancient religion. This is 1930s Europe and America, where a co-opted symbol has been taken, and shoved in our faces constantly by a re
[10:39] <ubptgbot> gime who wants to eliminate anyone who doesn't fit their ideals.
 @einserpasch [Is there a way to check if it's really broken or if it's a software problem?], It might help to provide more context, such as what device, update channel, and os version you are on
 @Mikeee_128 [Anybody has tried to install UT edge..], On what device? I tried it on Pro 5 and Nexus 7. Works rather well, some bugs( with browser ) but very, very fast, fluid, promising...
 @Mikeee_128 [Anybody has tried to install UT edge..], [Edit] On what device? I tried it on Pro 5 and Nexus 7. Works rather well, some bugs( with browser ) but very, very fast, fluid, promising... Have a look here: https://github.com/orgs/ubports/projects/10
 Does anyone knows why the old Browser on 15.04 have had a very large cache, sometimes filled with 225Mb of data and the new Morph Browser have very small one, approximately 12 Mb of data on average? Might be this the cause of Unity8 crashes while browsing net?
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 @dohbee [It might help to provide more context, such as what device, update channel, and …], Sure  … 16.04 , stable , OPO
 @einserpasch [Sure  … 16.04 , stable , OPO], ok, this sounds like the classic config missing on android side for wifi mac setup. @Flohack ^^ do you remember what the fix was?
 @einserpasch [Is there a way to check if it's really broken or if it's a software problem?], Please check content of /persist partition in either recovery or the running system, should be /system/persist or so. Is there a Wifi config file?
 @Flohack [Please check content of /persist partition in either recovery or the running sys …], I can't access it via my phone. it's forbidden. do I have to connect it to the computer ? if so, how can access the system files?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/dhKfp043.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/dpCyQh5a.png
 But persist seems to be empty...
 [Edit] But persist seems to be empty... … and has a weird date and time of creation... 🤔
 @einserpasch [But persist seems to be empty... … and has a weird date and time of creation... 🤔], I am on the road now, lemme send you a howto later
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/T23b21nM.png
 @j2g2rp [<reply to media>], Whats in wifi btw
 @einserpasch [But persist seems to be empty... … and has a weird date and time of creation... 🤔], I don't know what you want to check but if you want to access to persist you can try the comands of the screenshot. Be carefull typeying when you do sudo su since you can break something ;)
 @Flohack [Whats in wifi btw], mine is empty. I posted it to show him a way to access to /persist
 Ok clear.
[15:35] <ubptgbot> FinlayDaG33k was added by: FinlayDaG33k
 Hya :)  … Anyone who can help me out? … I need to allow the user `rslsync` to write to the sdcard of my device (Krillin)... which has proven to be a pain right now... … Chmodding the sdcard to 775 doesn't seem to work :\
 @FinlayDaG33k [Hya :)  … Anyone who can help me out? … I need to allow the user rslsync to write t …], Where did you get `rslsync` from?  Is that group even available in `/etc/group`?
 what is it?
 oh it's some proprietary file sharing thing
 ^
 @FinlayDaG33k [Hya :)  … Anyone who can help me out? … I need to allow the user rslsync to write t …], you are running Ubuntu Touch from ubports on your e4.5? are you running rslsync inside libertine?
 yes, UT from ubports on a e4.5. … rslsync outside libertine
 i don't know what specifically it needs to work, but UT is not a traditional linux distro, and if rslsync is expecting to work based on the assumption it's running on one, you might be better off setting it up inside libertine
 Well... I just want rslsync to run on the phone because I want to slap my music on the thing :p … How would Libertine handle it when it comes to writing to the SD card? (and the web UI for that matter)
 What about just connecting using a USB cable ?
 @FinlayDaG33k [Well... I just want rslsync to run on the phone because I want to slap my music …], why can't it write to the sd card?
 @malditobastardo [What about just connecting using a USB cable ?], Because I'm not at my desk that much.. also, I sometimes go like: "oh, I actually want this now" when in something like public transit. … With rslsync I can just tap a button and sync it over (and remove it from ym device when I'm tired of it for a while) :)
 @dohbee [why can't it write to the sd card?], Permission error
 @FinlayDaG33k [Permission error], you need to be more specific
 what is the exact error? what permission? what filesystem is on the SD card? does it have any data on it already? can you see the data in UT? can you save files to SD card from UT apps?
 Well, I don't hav emuch info on it myself honestly... … I know that rslsync runs as the `rslsync` user (which I've hacked into the `phablet` group). … However, the sd card is mounted as 744 (I think? might be 755) so only the `phablet` user can write to it but the `phablet` group can't. … It works perfectly fine when I do stuff as th
[16:32] <ubptgbot> e `phablet` user.
 why aren't you running rslsync as phablet user? you shouldn't need to add other users
[16:33] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [i don't know what specifically it needs to work, but UT is not a traditional lin …], Is this true of all versions of Linux mobile OSs that are being developed?
 @John (Marlin) [Is this true of all versions of Linux mobile OSs that are being developed?], i don't know
 I've tried to get that to work the entire day but I get all kinds of errors all over the place when I fiddle around with the systemd. … When I try to just overwrite the systemd service for rslsync, it just ignores my overwriting stuff and continues as the `rslsync` user anyways
[16:35] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Thanks
 @FinlayDaG33k [I've tried to get that to work the entire day but I get all kinds of errors all …], UT doesn't use systemd. it sues upstart
 @FinlayDaG33k [I've tried to get that to work the entire day but I get all kinds of errors all …], [Edit] UT doesn't use systemd. it uses upstart
 ...
 *facepalm*
 hangon, I'll try to fiddle around with upstart
 Well, that was a lot easier than I expected...
 Now for another question, when building an app for UT, do you guys have a requirement when it comes to visuals or can I let my imagination go wild?
 What do you want to do?
 build a glorified MP3 player :^)
 i guess bq already did that for you :P
 no seriously... I still had my e4.5 laying around and didn't know what to do with it until my old MP3 died xD
 @dohbee [i guess bq already did that for you :P], +1
 I'm probably going to build a new music app though... dunno, the current one doesn't look nor feel very nice... Might take a while though, haven't made an app for UT in like 3 years or so
 @FinlayDaG33k [I'm probably going to build a new music app though... dunno, the current one doe …], What about improving it instead of reinvent the wheel?
 @malditobastardo [What about improving it instead of reinvent the wheel?], personal opinions/preferences aren't necessarily "improvements" to an app though
 True
 @dohbee [personal opinions/preferences aren't necessarily "improvements" to an app though], Exactly this
 @j2g2rp [<reply to media>], What ist the app that you are using?
 @einserpasch [What ist the app that you are using?], Terminal.
 Ah, just Sound it 🙃
 [Edit] Ah, just found  it 🙃
 I'll probably check the code of the current music player and fork it if I understand whats going on tho. … I'm mainly specialized in UX :p
 @Flohack [Please check content of /persist partition in either recovery or the running sys …], Doesn't seem to be.. there is a Wifi_sensitivity_switch....
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/MLpi6N8A.png
 @j2g2rp [I don't know what you want to check but if you want to access to persist you can …], Do I have to undo the sudo command? or is shutting down the terminal enough?  … thanks ☺
 Close the terminal is enough
 @einserpasch [Do I have to undo the sudo command? or is shutting down the terminal enough?  … th …], or just run `exit`
 Or hit the `CTRL+D` shortcut shown above the OSK.
 oh, yeah, that too
 I started to realize that building apps for UT might be more difficult for me than I thought... I forgot I don't run Ubuntu on my desktop n laptop anymore :D
 [Edit] I started to realize that building apps for UT might be more difficult for me than I thought... I forgot I don't run Ubuntu on my desktop n laptop anymore (and they are too weak for VMs) :D
 you don't have to run ubuntu
 and well you don't need a VM for a chroot/container either
 Oh, I noticed that Cordova also supports UT
 well, not exactly
 hm?
 the cordova plug-in is not actively maintained afaik and i think has been removed from newer upstream versions of cordova
 oh :\
 bummer
 a music player in cordova wouldn't be terribly efficient either
 but http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html is where to start i guess
 Ah, so Clickable is what UT uses now
 it is one method to develop apps, yes
 aye
 or well, to build apps. it is itself not an IDE
 ye, it's an SDK (if that's the right term)
 not really. it's a tool/container for cross-compiling an app for deployment to a device (and the open store)
 ah
 @einserpasch [Doesn't seem to be.. there is a Wifi_sensitivity_switch....], Can you follow this article?
 @einserpasch [Doesn't seem to be.. there is a Wifi_sensitivity_switch....], [Edit] Can you follow this article? https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2249/no-more-wlan-after-ota-6-7-update-on-opo
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 @FinlayDaG33k [Oh, I noticed that Cordova also supports UT], if you can get cordova working and upstream it again they could work, as it used to work as mentioned in Q&A 55
 @Flohack [Can you follow this article? https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2249/no-more-wlan- …], A bit... I will try that  …  /system -iname WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini
 ok. this returns me 'command not found'
 @einserpasch [A bit... I will try that  …  /system -iname WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini], The command is: `find /system -iname WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini`
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