[02:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:08] <OerHeks> :)
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: updated bug #1838979
[04:52] <marcoagpinto> Hey
[07:59] <ducasse> good morning
 Hi guys. I am running Ubuntu 18.04.3 with Kernel: 5.0.0-23-generic x86_64 and my laptop is hard freezing 2-3x /hr. Here is my inxi -Fz output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xNTRCwc2ts/
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> another fun of kernel 5
[08:52] <marcoagpinto> lotuspsychje: Any idea when the Kernel 5 will be fixed? I am scared to turn on the VMs
[08:52] <marcoagpinto> :)
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: not everyone is experiencing issues on 5.0 live dangerous try a test?
[08:53] <marcoagpinto> I don't like to live dangerously
[08:53] <marcoagpinto> :)
[09:37] <tomreyn> try with one, downgrade  if needed.
[09:38] <marcoagpinto> tomreyn: I am little and scared
[09:38] <marcoagpinto> a little cola demon
[09:40] <tomreyn> it's not like it wont boot anymore. as long as you can access grub (and haven't uninstalled past kernel images, which won't happen automatically while there aren't multiple 5.0 kernel images, yet), you can just switch back to the previous kernel image from grub menu.
[09:40] <tomreyn> so it's actually better to test earlier than later.
[09:40] <OerHeks> but kernel 4.8 is heavier than 5.0.0-23, package size 2.4kb vs 2.2kb
[09:43] <TJ-> kernel 2.4KB? no way!
[09:43] <jeremy31> meta package
[09:43] <OerHeks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco-updates/linux-image-generic
[09:43] <TJ-> indeed :P
[09:44] <OerHeks> jups,..
[09:49] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[09:54] <marcoagpinto> BluesKaj!!!! Hello!!!!
[09:54] <marcoagpinto> It is your brother demon here
[10:19] <BluesKaj> I'm no demon:-)
[10:43] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[10:43] <marcoagpinto> sorry... I had to go to the store to buy cola
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> welcome lastebill1
[11:06] <lastebill1> hi!
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> lastebill1: wich ubuntu are you running on it
[11:06] <lastebill1> I'm running disco dingo
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> running like a charm?
[11:08] <lastebill1> yes, my only real issue is the trackpad working better on windows.  It tends to mess up my typing.  Can probably be fixed with a little bit of tweaking
[11:09] <lastebill1> I get like 4 hours of battery life on windows and 8 on ubuntu 19
[11:09] <lastebill1> it's my first go at standard ubuntu, I've been using lubuntu so far mostly
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> neat
[11:12] <lastebill1> I installed synclient yesterday, since the standard trackpad driver didn't seem to support coasting
[11:13] <lastebill1> the drawback is that now it seems like the touchpad is much more vulnerable to my palm touching it, leading to mistyping
[11:13] <lastebill1> seemed like the standard ubuntu touchpad drivers had that part figured out better
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> lastebill1: there are some settings in gnome-tweak-tool and/or dconf-editor if you like lastebill1
[11:15] <lastebill1> hmm, yeah, I did install the dconf-editor yesterday to disable the password requirement when in hibernation.  I've got to check out the gnome-tweak-tool though
[11:21] <lastebill1> lotuspsychje you wouldn't happen to be able to direct me to information about how notebook users tend to set up their trackpads by chance?   Would be nice to see that rather than trying to hit and miss set it up
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> lastebill1: setup to do what?
[11:23] <JimBuntu> lastebill1, if Synaptic - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[11:25] <lastebill1> JimBuntu thanks!
[11:25] <JimBuntu> You're welcome lastebill1 , my guess is it's the sensitivity that needs adjusting.
[11:27] <lastebill1> lotuspsychje my right arm tend to start hurting rather quickly if the track pad isn't comfortable.   Got to be other people with simular sensitivity when it comes to using notebooks, that have already figured it out.  Honestly, windows have figured it out, but well, double battery life is a big motivation for me to use ubuntu
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> lastebill1: did you actually test the battery life, or does it show 8h remaining?
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> i had some laptop brands making weird battery jumps on bionic
[11:29] <JimBuntu> My solution to touchpad issues is to not use the touchpad, lol.
[11:29] <lastebill1> ok, I need to actually check it out I guess
[11:30] <lastebill1> I honestly had to disable the grapics card (mx150) to improve the battery to comfortable levels
[11:30] <lastebill1> before that the battery life seemed windowsy
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> lastebill1: you can also checkout laptop-mode-tools
[11:31] <lastebill1> I've also disabled the grapics card in windows, but it doesn't seem to do the trick
[11:32] <JimBuntu> If that MX150 is a N17S-G1-A1, that would explain the power draw as that model is a 25W GPU
[11:32] <JimBuntu> The N17S-LG-A1 is only 10W, so not as bad, but also performs like a lesser card/chip too.
[11:34] <lastebill1> right.  It's really easy to disable it in ubuntu.  I had to go into the device manager of windows to disable it though, since the whole nvidea grapics driver thing in windows is very bloated
[11:34] <lastebill1> didn't seem to turn it properly off or something though
[11:34] <lastebill1> very bloated without useful functionality...
[14:59] <tomreyn> did anyone other than TJ- see hydrian say anythng in #ubuntu after this?  <hydrian> That's with the 4GB version of the problem VM running.
[14:59] <tomreyn> i assume hydrian must be using notices to respond.
[15:00] <daftykins> that's an incredibly annoying way to use IRC
[15:01] <tomreyn> i'm just wondering whteher it's just me, maybe a client misconfiguration.
[15:01] <TJ-> I don't see any replies either
[15:01] <JimBuntu> tomreyn, my logs do not show hydrian posting after that
[15:01] <tomreyn> oh ok
[15:02] <TJ-> It's so bright here I can barely make out some conversations anyhow due to colours
[15:02] <tomreyn> i was puzzled since TJ- said "hydrian: lots of # comments in those configs," but i didn't see any configs posted
[15:02]  * JimBuntu turns down TJ-'s monitor brightness levels... on all of them
[15:02]  * TJ- is finally getting rather tired of hitting bugs that interfere with work on a basic level, on 18.04!
[15:03] <TJ-> Grrr, that was JimBuntu ... dark blue on black! but if I switch to black-on-white theme, I lost tomryn in yellow!
[15:03] <daftykins> TJ-: back into the darkened rooms you go ;)
[15:03]  * TJ- mulls over which
[15:03] <TJ-> daftykins: I'm debating it but its a lovely 35C here!
[15:04] <TJ-> even got a fan going to keep the notebook cool :)
[15:04] <daftykins> haha, you're braver than me - i'm done in the low 20s
[15:05] <TJ-> great, ANOTHER bug! no mouse clicks passing through in virt-manager/libvirt, but movement is! This worked 2 days ago, grrr bloody grrr
[15:05] <TJ-> so what was supposed to be a 5 minute VM test as to whether xubuntu 1910 build has fixed a nasty thunar hanging bug... is turning into a half-day marathon !
[15:06] <daftykins> xD
[15:06] <TJ-> I think I'll go combine the wheat... at least it stays harvested!
[15:08] <tomreyn> unless there are any gnomes running aroun din the fields
[15:10] <TJ-> urghh!
[15:13] <JimBuntu> TJ-, I seldom say anything, so go with the scheme that makes mine invisible ;p
[15:13] <daftykins> amusingly Jim is also dark blue on black for me
[15:13] <TJ-> not even sure where to start on this mouse no-click issue!
[15:13] <daftykins> stealth-Jim i shall consider him
[15:14] <TJ-> daftykins: I think the colours are calculated based on a hash of the nickname
[15:14] <daftykins> hmm, think it's just character length here with nickcolor.pl in irssi
[15:15] <daftykins> as i often see people with the same nickname length get the same colour
[15:15] <TJ-> hmmm, seems a strange way to decide, although fast
[15:16] <daftykins> sometimes i unload and reload that plugin if the choices are annoying me
[15:17] <TJ-> I use my 'follow' script to break out indivudual (support) conversations into a separate buffer so those aren't a problem for me
[15:17] <TJ-> general chat on the other hand...!
[15:23] <TJ-> OK, it was the VNC client link to the guest, switched to Spice protocol and it is working
[15:41] <TJ-> hmmm, seeing this in journal "... automount ... triggered by 21339 (gmain)" assumed 21339 is a PID but there is no such process and the message keeps repeating... any ideas?
[15:46] <TJ-> oh doh, it's a thread, needed "ps -eFl" to show it
[16:35]  * JimBuntu grabs the popcorn... pours everyone some on their own plates... this might get interesting.
[16:37] <leftyfb> yeah, totally done with that one
[16:40] <JimBuntu> !cookie leftyfb for not going off the deep end.
[16:40] <JimBuntu> !cookie | leftyfb for not going off the deep end.
[16:40] <daftykins> another undesirable customer eh?
[16:57] <tomreyn> ubot more into metal parts, just ubottu likes cookies.
[16:58] <tomreyn> or i just didnt read properly
[17:00] <pragmaticenigma> I think ubot is on a cookie bender
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> welcome BriggsE
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> BriggsE: here we discuss & idle to make #ubuntu better, also discuss relevant bugs about ubuntu etc
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> BriggsE: the ubuntu developers sit in #ubuntu-devel you might also go take a look
[18:17] <BriggsE> :)
[18:17] <BriggsE> Thank you
[18:23] <EoflaOE> Hello lotuspsychje
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> hey there EoflaOE
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> how are you doing?
[18:24] <EoflaOE> I am doing fine
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> great
[18:24] <EoflaOE> And you?
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> all good on this side tnx
[18:25] <EoflaOE> Nice. I reported another bug about man-db and the fix is released. did you see that?
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> cool, dconf can set dash to the left on dock
[20:41] <nacc> TJ-: i wouldn't bother, based upon what I've read so far, they seem not interested in getting help
[20:41] <TJ-> nacc: oh I know but that particular person needs countering at times.
[20:42] <nacc> TJ-: ack :)