[00:09] <mmercer> when using preseed to configure disks,  what is the d-i partman options for NOT using lvm
[00:12] <powersj> mmercer, I like to refer to this doc when trying to create a preseed https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/example-preseed.txt
[00:13] <powersj> You will see the options for disk methods e.g. regular, lvm, crypto
[13:28] <rbasak> cpaelzer: "You said you don't want me to parse those keys at all"
[13:29] <cpaelzer> yep
[13:29] <rbasak> No, I meant I didn't want you to parse a simplestreams filter/query string
[13:29] <cpaelzer> ok, but still as I outlined none of the local context data has the keys I'd need
[13:29] <rbasak> Since that syntax is not strictly defined and the simplestream library handles parsing, and I didn't want an additional parser
[13:29] <cpaelzer> help me navigate it and I happily drop the re.search
[13:29] <rbasak> I understand - I'll look into that
[16:53] <lord4163> There is no way to make netplan rename the an interface but not bring it up?
[18:59] <kierank> Would there be a reason the "live" 18.04 server installer has a kernel module that the "alternate" one does not?
[19:01] <sarnold> kierank: it wouldn't surprise me, noi
[19:02] <kierank> Is it possible to preseed with the live variant?
[19:02] <kierank> or failing that use the alternate one with the kernel from live?
[19:02] <sarnold> what problem are you seeing?
[19:03] <sarnold> I wouldn't be surprised if the live system booted up with an overlayfs or something similar in place
[19:03] <kierank> SD card on Intel NUC isn't detected by alternate, but is with live
[19:03] <kierank> so I can't install with alternate
[19:03] <sarnold> ew. I wonder why
[19:06] <kierank> though actually the reason we use preseed is to get raid 1 but with a nuc I can just image the SD card
[19:06] <kierank> so not the end of the world per se
[20:07] <TJ-> kierank: I think the alternate runs the debian-installer directly, from .udebs, so likely it'd need the udeb that contains the missing kernel module. what module is it?
[20:17] <kierank> TJ-: rtsx_pci sd/mmc
[20:18] <kierank> rtsx_pci_sdmmc*
[20:28] <TJ-> kierank: missing... the sdhci_pci is in block-modules but not that one
[20:34] <kierank> TJ-: what does "live" do differently?
[20:34] <TJ-> kierank: it has a the full kernel images the same as an installed system
[20:35] <TJ-> kierank: which include all those modules
[20:35] <kierank> Ok
[20:36] <TJ-> kierank: debian-installer (d-i) relies on .udeb packages (smaller less capable versions of .deb packages). Some kernel modules are included in themed .udeb packages. The block-modules udeb has the main block device modules but not that rtsx* group
[20:37] <kierank> Makes sense, I've never had to install on a storage device that goes via pcie before
[20:37] <TJ-> kierank: in theory, if you have that/those modules handy from the same kernel version you can 'sideload' them from the d-i installer, it has an option to load drivers