[00:00] hello, would anyone be willing to help me work through a VPN related issue? It seems to be related to dns but I can't quite put my finger on where the issue is. I have an anyconnect VPN that I connect to via the openconnect client. It should be tunneling everything to the VPN (which it seems to) but still seems to use the DNS servers set on the physical adapter instead of the VPN adapter.If I specify the fqdn on the adapter t [00:00] kidn3ys: btw irc has line length limits; you were cut off at "adapter t" [00:01] sarnold: thank you, my bad. [00:01] +adapter then it will add fqdn to the end of the hostnames but if I attempt to resolve hostname.fqdn it fails. [00:03] It seems to be some kind of odd conditional forwarding that I can't make much sense out of. [00:05] Also, an nslookup directed at the DNS servers that the VPN provides seems to resolve everything as expected (with and without the fqdn). [00:05] kidn3ys: NM and systemd-resolved do funny things with VPNs. it feels like we've addressed this half-dozen times already but it also always feels like it's not doing something quite right [00:05] kidn3ys: maybe this will give you the right strings to pull on? https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/NetworkManager-openvpn/issues/10 [00:05] sarnold: appreciate it, and sorry if this is not the right place to ask. [00:06] kidn3ys: it's perfectly fine place to ask :) [00:07] sarnold: that looks promising, let me give it a try [00:11] ooo, thank you. I think I can work with that. It no longer applies the suffix but that's better than the other way around :D [00:12] kidn3ys: if there's something still *busted*, please do file bugs ;) hehe [00:12] sarnold: will do, thank you :) [00:14] in non-lts. How can I make it stable as lts? Do not check "unsupoorted" and "preleased" apps? [00:15] can I convert 19 to LTS? [00:15] not until 20.04 comes out [00:15] Sure, reinstall with 18.04.2 [00:15] or that, obv [00:16] OerHeks, ooh. that would be painful [00:16] dax, hm ok [00:16] your best bet is taking 6-month releases until 20.04, then changing your update preference to lts [00:16] in non-lts. How can I make it stable as lts? Do not check "unsupoorted" and "preleased" apps? [00:16] No it wouldn't, as you were stuck for hours, and now you can install, 18.04.2 should be no issue [00:17] OerHeks, no.. you know 18 has issues with me [00:17] it has no support for eufi [00:17] or issues with acpi [00:18] you cannot answer that without trying. [00:18] what are "unsupported" sofware? [00:18] OerHeks, true [00:20] I cannot install chromium. Why so? [00:21] chromium is a snap now [00:21] snap? [00:21] but why its not listed? [00:23] i don't know if kubuntu muon does not show snaps [00:23] https://snapcraft.io/chromium [00:23] hm [00:26] OerHeks, I cannot see any I used. chromium, openjdk, hexchat [00:26] I wonder whats wrong [00:27] check your dmesg [00:27] i have no clue what you asking about. [00:27] if you're still getting acpi errors then you may be able to guess my thought :) [00:41] where can I find docs on what LC_NUMERIC is? [00:41] IRC logs don't count ;) [00:42] I'm filing a bug report and want to reference docs, not "I think I know what it does' [00:43] CarlFK: locale(7) isn't a bad starting point [00:45] sarnold: thanks. this is what I was looking for: "LC_NUMERIC This category determines the formatting rules ... radix character..." [00:46] ah good, because the posix manpages just say it exists but not much else about it. heh [01:10] tomreyn: it looks like the crossgrade worked nicely, thank you again [01:10] bodom: success?? [01:11] yep [01:11] bodom: awesome! :D thanks for reporting back [01:19] bodom: nice! i actually never did it myself :) [01:25] hrmf, it seems I spoke too soon. Now i get no resolution over the vpn :( [01:32] :( [01:34] doh. that's because now the vpn is broke =/ [01:34] sigh... [01:35] is it a sign to start the evening? [01:35] is that code for giving up? =P [01:36] weird. [01:38] yes, yes it is :) hehe [01:43] lol, waiting for food. [01:43] so without touching anything (even setting the domain to ~.) itll resolve hostname and hostname.fqdn properly [01:44] but both wget and firefox fail to resolve it [01:45] AND it looks like it queries both the local dns server and the vpn dns servers for public domains [01:46] kidn3ys: what is itll ? [01:46] eh? [01:46] (08:43:55 PM) kidn3ys: so without touching anything (even setting the domain to ~.) itll resolve hostname and hostname.fqdn properly [01:47] i was just using nslookup [01:47] try host - I think it is the same as nslookup, less spew [01:48] that works too [01:48] dig will show you lots, I never know how to make use of it though [01:49] vpn dns = dns on the other side of the vpn connection? [01:49] I guess I could see firefox having some odd behavior it being a browser and all but shouldn't wget use systemd-resolve to resolve hosts? [01:49] CarlFK: yes. [01:50] i've bumped into this stuff. no vpn, but confusing dns lookup. i my case I had stuf in /etc/hosts that host/nslookup ignore but wget does not [01:51] also every so often ipv6 gets involved and creates more confusion for me [01:52] otoh, there is a coffee shop that only does v6 and hey, all the v6 stuff works \o/ [01:52] fair point [01:52] its set to 'ignore' on the vpn [01:52] (im sure someone accentually disabled v4, not "lets push tech forward" [01:52] well of course the number is higher, must be better =P [01:53] oh my, never thought of that [01:53] hrm [01:53] surprise: twitter.com github.com are v4 only [01:53] well [01:53] ill be damned [01:53] maybe it was the ipv6 on my wireless adapter [01:54] \o/ [01:54] lol [01:54] wget is working now [01:54] still look to be leaking dns locally though [01:56] [Help] I broke my Ubuntu install. When I boot the only network connection in ifconfig is docker. I am unable to connect to my lan devices or the internet. I only got on by using icfonfig in terminal to bring up my network card and editing /etc/resolv.conf to put a working DNS server in there. Please help me get this system back to normal [01:56] heh, interestingly enough it still queries vpn and local servers for public domains. === [b0b] is now known as b0b [01:58] MannyLNJ: not sure where to start, other than "sudo dhclient dev" might get you on with less typing [01:58] dev = p3p1 or eth0 or to see them all [01:59] CarlFK, I guess the first place to start is why enp4s0 isn't comming up on it's own [02:00] MannyLNJ: what release? there is a new place for /etc/network/i.. stuff. a yml file somewhere very different [02:00] no idea how it plays with Network Manager [02:01] CarlFK, I issued sudo dhclient enp4s0 and nothing happened. I am on 18.04.3 [02:01] sudo dhclient enp4s0 - uses dhcp to setup enp4s0, which I think you already did with ifconfig [02:02] CarlFK, I used a static IP that I knew was unused with ifconfig [02:02] im sure you will reboot and need to do it again, so then less typing [02:03] thats fine, just saving you a little typing and showing you dhclient which I use often in times like this [02:05] CarlFK, thank you. I think the issue started when I tried to assign two IP's to my nic. One was the DHCP address in the 192.168.1.X network and the other was 10.1.1.10 I am trying to setup another system to be a DNS/DHCP/Ad Blocker for my lan and needed this system to configure it without affecting the wife [02:07] MannyLNJ: 18.04 is before the yml thing. good. [02:07] hmm, I bet your another system to be a DNS/DHCP is broken [02:08] hey CarlFK [02:08] CarlFK, the other system for DNS/DHCP is my netgear router and it is working fine (or the wife would say I broke netflix) [02:08] hey lotuspsychje [02:09] CarlFK: are you the carl that has the flickering bug on 5.0 too? [02:09] umm.. 50 what? [02:09] CarlFK: 5.0 kernel [02:10] MannyLNJ: if you have 2 dhcp server on your lan, um.. thats going to be hell as they will race to give out IPs [02:10] lotuspsychje - like over a year ago on a carbon-x? [02:10] CarlFK, I only have 1 DHCP server. I havem't started on the other system yet. Need to read up on Proxmon [02:11] CarlFK: no, nvm might be another carl then :p === zenguy is now known as coffeeguy [02:17] i need help with repartitioning my drive [02:17] i replaced my SSD with a higher capacity one... [02:17] and I just straight, cloned my drive [02:18] well,... now it has a swap partition, in the middle of the disk... and unallocated 317GiB to the right of it, according to Gparted [02:18] is it possible to merge it? [02:20] JFox762: maybe swapoff, trash the swap partition, make a new swap partition at the end of the drive, extend the data partition to fit the remaining space, resize the filesystem? [02:21] after removing swap, repartitioning, you can choose for swapFILE instead of partition. [02:21] JFox762: if it isnt' too late, do it again, but this time use clonezilla.org [02:21] clonezilla is prett good about different disk sizes/ partition layout [02:24] i would do a fresh install, no messing with partition allignment and such [02:24] +1 OerHeks [02:24] 5min on ssd [02:25] partition alignment *would* indeed worry me too [02:26] I'd also hope the handy dandy tools would take care of that :) would they not? [02:26] sarnold: yeah with the right tools, one can fix a lot [02:28] sarnold: I have hibernate funciton re-enabled on my install [02:29] If I move the swap partition,... will the configuration files point to the wrong spot on the drive, for resume funcitons? [02:29] JFox762: just so long as there's a swap partition before you try to use it, shouldn't it work fine? [02:29] I'd probably reboot before trying hibernate just in case, because I'm a very lazy person [03:13] anyone awake that can talk pam + radius or tacacs? I'm trying to understand what is the point of configuring either for account or session in pam. Goal is account has to be local and password auth it sent to radius/tacacs as long as reachable and back to local auth if not. [03:13] I have that working but i'm thinking in this case i really only need the auth line in pam. [03:13] ok so I repartitioned my drive [03:13] PRoblem is.... hibernate no longer seems to work now [03:14] oh wait [03:14] i forgot to swapon [03:14] let me try again [03:25] Ok... so im having trouble with hibernate. It isn't working anymore, after I moved the swap partition [03:25] When I hibernate, and start up again... it simply starts Ubuntu fresh, rather than resuming [03:26] did you put the right UUID in your fstab? [03:27] and swap too far at the end of a disk can be an issue [03:27] uhhh [03:27] that is why i suggest to use a swapfile too [03:27] how do i find the UUID? [03:27] I gave it an oversized swap file [03:27] I have 8GB of ram [03:28] but gave it a 16GB alotment [03:28] blkid [03:28] no output [03:30] swapon -s [03:31] vmstat [03:31] JFox762: Too; check what is set for resume device in the /etc/uswsusp.conf file. [03:32] file does not exist Bashing-om [03:32] odd, it worked prior to me moving the swap part [03:32] then you have removed your swap, i guess [03:32] .. or it is at the end of the drive, unusable [03:32] It is at the end of the drive [03:32] but this is an SSD [03:33] gparted shows /dev/sda1 ext4 mt point of "/" [03:34] size 449.76 used 95.99 unused 353.77, flags boot [03:34] then for /dev/sda file system "linux-suspend" NO ENTRY for mount point, size 16GiB [03:34] used --- unused ---, no flags [03:34] JFox762: Maybe that file is for encryption ? [03:35] what file? [03:35] oh wait [03:35] the uuid definitely changed... [03:36] should I edit my fstab? [03:37] and update-grub after that [03:37] ahhh blkid now works [03:37] hi [03:37] huh? [03:38] !grub [03:38] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [04:11] yeah, hibernate is still not working [04:11] I changed the UUIDs in ... [04:12] i changed uuids in /etc/default/grub [04:12] /etc/fstab [04:12] /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume [04:12] to reflect the swap partition's changed UUID [04:12] it still wont hibernate [04:29] Hello, all. [04:32] Let's say I want to live on the edge and already have backups of data files. How would I upgrade to 19.10 from command line? [04:38] In /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, I have "Prompt=normal", but do-release-upgrade still says, "No new release found." [04:55] Ahh, I have to use -d flag. [05:21] Random question just for conversation: where are the most Linux users, geographically? [05:22] Jake-abc: https://royal.pingdom.com/linux-popularity-across-the-globe/ [05:25] SwedeMike: interesting. Of course, not everyone uses Google for search, and probably a higher number of Linux users are aware of alternative search-engines. [05:27] there are no reliable stats, AFAIK, not via updates, download of iso's, even wikipedia browser / os stats are just a number [05:27] i use Chromium [05:29] OerHeks: I'm sure Canonical has some sort of numbers, but I haven't bothered looking that up. [05:29] those are voluntairy [05:30] U can download Google Chrome it is easy [05:30] Yeah, and even a survey wouldn't necessarily be representative. [05:30] https://popcon.ubuntu.com/ and https://ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics [05:33] globally 6% https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp [05:35] I'm no help with the Ubuntu stats since I always opt out of sending them. Haha. [05:37] anyone know of Ubuntu for Raspberri Pi 4? [05:38] ubuntu-mate is working on that [05:41] about about Microsoft Windows 10 IOT core? [05:42] ya i was looking at Ubuntu-Mate [05:42] I'm going to go install 19.10. Might be back later. Good night! [05:58] why can't a swap partition be at the end of a drive? [05:58] for hibernate functions? [06:07] Does snaps use only internal libraries and dependencies, or can a snap be dependent on stuff from apt? === ayr_ton is now known as ayr-ton [06:11] Hi guys. I am running Ubuntu 18.04.3 with Kernel: 5.0.0-23-generic x86_64 and my laptop is hard freezing 2-3x /hr. Here is my inxi -Fz output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xNTRCwc2ts/ [06:12] Im hoping someone has had this issue and knows of a fix. I installed ubuntu and updated to so don't know if previous kernels caused the issue or not === jje_ is now known as jje [06:23] john60, i would reboot and at grub use an older kernel and see if the same issue still occurs... if it does I'd possible ramtest your system or cap-check your box (but your box/hardware may be okay.. just my thoughts) [06:24] guiverc, sounds good. Is there a kernel you recommend? [06:25] I keep reading 4.15 is pretty stable [06:25] sorry I just noted it was a clean install ^ (so none may be on your system), I'd thus think about booting a live & using that; yes 4.15 (non-HWE) has had more in-production testing... [06:26] thanks will test it out tomorrow. [06:26] gn [06:26] (booting live; to test system.. do you know if the box is seen as reliable? unused in awhile? or unknown .. ie. to validate if hardware issue) === macroprep__ is now known as macroprep [07:01] I am still having issues with graphical snaps on my system. I tried uninstalling (purging) snapd all together, but when I reinstalled it still gives me the same errors. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NrpPc5vwSC/ [07:02] Does Snap make a new drive appear in the taskbar for a short file when updating a package? [07:04] mr_lou, was that question for me? [07:09] mr_lou, I'm sorry. I got disconnected. Was that question for me? [07:16] Aavar, are you running snap-store from your graphical environment? [07:17] diskin, hmm... I am not sure what you mean. I am running x11 and it gives me similar results when running from the menu as from the terminal. [07:18] I am running xfce, but had the same issue with unity. [07:19] diskin, and btw. I am having the same issue with other graphical apps. [07:19] "Gtk cannot open display: :0.0" - this one? [07:19] Aavar, For anyone who might know the answer. ;-) [07:22] Hmm... Now It is actually crashing my computer... [07:23] I ran snap install inkscape and I locked my computer. I had to force-reboot it... [07:23] Hello, again. [07:28] The upgrade to 19.10 went smoothly. So far, so good. [07:35] Hi [07:35] Hello. [07:35] I have kubuntu 19. I do not see chromium or openjdk in muon. What can be the reason? [07:40] Intelo: Maybe a dumb question, but are they installed? [07:41] not installed [07:41] I want to install [07:41] I don't use Kubuntu/KDE/Muon. I see them in the Ubuntu Software Center, though. Does Muon list Chromium? [07:42] no [07:42] Is moun a software installer for kde? [07:42] (kubuntu) [07:43] Aavar: I think so. [07:43] Intelo: in case you don't get an answer here, you might want to try #kubuntu. [07:44] tell me answer for ubuntu [07:44] I will map it for kubuntu Jake-abc [07:46] Intelo: I don't know what version of Kubuntu you're using, but now there's a snap for Chrome so that might be an easy way to install. [07:49] Intelo: are you on a 64-bit computer running 64-bit OS? [07:51] we told you why chromium is snap only, Intelo [07:52] and openjdk is called openjdk-8 >> https://launchpad.net/openjdk [07:53] or 12 [07:53] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-12 [07:55] OerHeks why these apps are not shown in apt list or muon or any package manager? [07:56] you asked that before.. [07:56] Intelo: have you tried installing the snap? [07:56] ask in #kubuntu [07:56] :-D [07:57] OerHeks: LOL. [07:57] OerHeks what do you mean by snap only? [07:57] I dont see hexchat eirther [07:57] ... [07:57] lolz [07:57] Jake-abc its 64 bit [07:57] due to lack of maintainers, the chromium team provides the browser as snap only. [07:57] OerHeks tell me answer for ubuntuI will map it for kubuntu [07:58] OerHeks what is a 'snap'? [07:58] no i won't map kubuntu answers to ubuntu [07:58] OerHeks I would just use cmd. Its same for both [07:58] Do I need to enable 'unsupported' apps? [07:58] in package manager [07:59] Intelo: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/basic-snap-usage [07:59] yeah, no, i am not going to repeat the website with the chromium snap. i feel ignored. [07:59] Intelo: https://itsfoss.com/use-snap-packages-ubuntu-16-04/ [07:59] good luck! [08:01] Intelo: to install from the command line, you would do something like the following. [08:01] ok. how to install hexchat? [08:02] sudo apt install snapd; sudo snap install chromium [08:02] (Something like that.) [08:02] ok [08:03] how to hexchat? [08:04] Intelo: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/01/install-keep-hexchat-updated-snap-in-ubuntu/ [08:06] Hexchat can offource also be installed via apt. [08:06] how mundane [08:07] ayekat: would you rather talk about bourbon? [08:07] hexchat is in muon, no doubt [08:08] Jake-abc: was more about how one can simply use the distro package manager to install packages - but that doesn't seem to be in fashion anymore these days, hence my slightly sarcastic comment :-] [08:10] ayekat: oh. Haha. For the record, I gave the link to the snap article, because that's the first one that came up in search. [08:11] OerHeks: have you used Kubuntu much? I tried it once, but it seemed like it was going to take too long to learn. I didn't have the time or the patience for that. [08:12] keep it support related guys [08:12] we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel to chitchat all day long [08:16] Goodnight, and good luck. [08:17] OerHeks why can't I see it? [08:18] OerHeks does it falls under unsupported apps? [08:18] Intelo: apt-cache search hexchat or snap find hexchat [08:19] thanks [08:22] irssi <3 <3 [08:25] I'm sorry for asking about this multiple times, but as this is chat I guess different persons will see my question. I am having an issue with graphical snap apps. They wont run ang gives me the following errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NrpPc5vwSC/ [08:29] don't run gui snaps from comandline, use the launcher in your menu? [08:36] OerHeks, it gives me a similar result. Nothing runs [08:36] Nothing shows up. [08:38] Aavar: its working for me on gnome 18.04 here [08:39] lotuspsychje, I am pretty sure this isn't a bug, but something I have fucked up on my system. [08:40] Aavar: wich ubuntu version are you on? is your system up to date? [08:40] lotuspsychje, This is 19.04 and the system is up to date. [08:41] Aavar: its only snap-store not running or no snaps at all? [08:41] lotuspsychje, no graphical snaps. COnsole only works fine. [08:42] Aavar: you mean running snaps from terminal work? [08:44] lotuspsychje, I mean that for example "lsd" (a tekst only app) works fine from terminal, but snap-store, inkscape, thunderbird osv. (graphical) does not. [08:44] as far as I can see it has something to do with the connection to the x11-server from snaps. [08:44] Aavar: right, lets try a journalctl -f then launch a snap icon, then pastebin us the output please [08:46] lotuspsychje, It shows me the log, but there is no change after running the app (tried different). Do you swill want the output? [08:47] Aavar: are you now on the local console or still remoting with TeamViewer ? [08:47] TJ-: he has a 19.04 xubuntu where gui snaps dont launch [08:47] TJ-, Now I am local. [08:48] Aavar: oh good... that helps rule out any weirdness from TV's end! [08:48] Aavar: did you install a minimal xubuntu or such? [08:48] Do you think it would make a difference ig i switch to gnome? [08:48] Aavar: and you corrected the files owned by 'root' in the $HOME yesterday ? [08:48] TJ-, yes [08:48] yes to the home directory. [08:48] Aavar: has the user been logged out and back in since then? [08:49] TJ-, yes, I rebooted the machine. [08:49] Aavar: good, nice clean slate! [08:49] Aavar: so I think we should focus on another strace log capture so we understand what it does when it goes wrong [08:50] Aavar: I presume in a terminal shell that "snap-store" still fails? [08:50] TJ-, yes. [08:51] Aavar: OK, let's try a capture with that as the target, but before we do lets ensure strace can work fine with non-snaps since yesterday there was some question over the error reports about not being root or suid which might be coming from strace. [08:51] Aavar: did you mess with snapd somehow on your system? [08:52] Aavar: try this: strace -o /tmp/test.strace.log -f -e trace=file /bin/bash -c "ls $HOME" [08:52] lotuspsychje, Not that I can remember, but I do mess with stuff from time to time :P [08:52] Aavar: then show us the resulting log-file with "pastebinit /tmp/test.strace.log" [08:53] lotuspsychje: Aavar I'm wondering if there's a custom LD_LIBRARY_PATH set, or some locally installed libraries in /usr/local/ being picked up in preference to the system libraries [08:53] TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y2Sr4pNBTr/ [08:54] Aavar: good, so nothing wrong there, so basic strace does work [08:55] :) [08:56] it didn't follow the ls process though [08:56] (Just want to mention that I am not 100% sure exacly what the strace command does, so I am just following instructions at this point) [08:57] Aavar: now let's target snap-store. Do: " strace -o /tmp/snap-store.strace.log -f snap-store |& tee /tmp/snap-store.log " -- this will create 2 log-files, once of strace the other of the command output, so you can share them both with us with "pastebinit /tmp/snap-store*.log" [08:57] geirha: it did [08:59] TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dhcddcBpS5/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fp7c2NscWR/ (and it also gave me "need to run as root or suid" in the terminal). [08:59] geirha: bash uses execve() which replaces bash with ls [09:00] ah, it optimized away the fork since the whole script was a single simple command. I see [09:00] Aavar: hmmm that is weird; that MUST have come from strace since both stderr and stdout were redirected to the file, so that must be due to snap requiring confinement [09:01] geirha: I only had trace=file :) [09:05] Aavar: "need to run as root or suid" comes from a snap executable. Show us " ls -l /usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine " [09:05] Aavar: I'm expecting that should show "-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root ..." [09:07] TJ-: The machine froze... It has done that two times earlier today when testing this... I had to force it down with holding the power button. I cant imagine this being related? [09:07] Aavar: I'm beginning to think it may be, what was the last thing you saw me type? [09:08] Aavar: Or are you on a different PC? [09:08] TJ-: I am on a different pc. [09:08] Aavar: the fact the yesterday we found lots of root-owned files in $HOME makes me suspect there may be other unexpected file-system owner/permissions issues we have to discover [09:09] Aavar: So this is the most obvious one to start with " ls -l /usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine " [09:10] TJ-: It is owned by root and the same permissions as you expected. [09:12] so it's nice and red? could it be it's on a mount with nosuid set? [09:13] geirha: The output has a red background yes. [09:14] geirha: possible but unlikely Aavar try "findmnt /usr/lib/snapd" [09:14] Aavar: we expect NO output [09:15] TJ-: thats correct. No output. [09:15] Aavar: have you deployed anything like firejail ? [09:17] TJ-: I dont even know what that is, so no :) [09:18] geirha: Aavar: in the strace log for snap-store, at the end, are 2 lines inc. the report about 'need root or suid' where it gets the effective UID (euid) and its 1001 [09:18] 10374 geteuid() = 1001 [09:18] 10374 write(2, "need to run as root or suid", 27) = 27 [09:19] geirha: Aavar I don't use snap at all so not sure what to expect but if someone with snap could run the same strace of snap-store and compare we might make progress since we'd know what to expect [09:21] I'm thinking it might be easier to reinstall the whole system... That being said, it would be great to know what is going on... [09:22] Aavar: do you know if snap-store ought to be run with sudo, or not, normally ? [09:24] Aavar: everything I read suggests it shouldn't use sudo since it's a GUI desktop application [09:25] TJ-: As far as I know it should not matter as it will ask for sudo if it's needed. [09:25] Aavar: here's another report we might look at: "pastebinit <( systemctl status snap* )" [09:25] And btw. I have the same issue with apps that don't require sudo (inkscape for exaple). [09:27] TJ-, It gave me errors, so i ran the same command with snapd* instead of snap* https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W8jxTfKC7t/ [09:28] (snap.service not found) [09:30] Aavar: if snap* didn't list anything or produced errors we might be onto something, because it should list the snap.core.$VERSION and all installed snap services, try "systemctl list-units snap*" [09:30] Aavar: add "--all" to that to see disabled/failed services too [09:37] TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D4MZcw6R2Z/ Should I maybe try to enable the snapd.failure.service? [09:38] Aavar: I'd think not it is set to "vendor preset: disabled" so presumabled it is started by another snap element when required [09:40] Aavar: at this point it isn't obvious what is going in except it seems to be specific to snap. I think you need to bug/talk to the snapcraft devs. I suspect there's a channel on Freenode they use [09:41] TJ-: #snappy [09:41] alternatively forum.snapcraft.io is active [09:41] popey_ saved me some typing [09:41] ^5 [09:41] popey_, thanks :) [09:41] np [09:42] popey_: I suspect this requires iterative poking its a weird one ... or someone who has experienced it before [09:42] TJ-, thank you for your help so far :) [09:42] Yeah, I imagine one of the snapd people will have some experience. [09:42] Aavar: and let us know what the cause/solution turns out to be [09:43] TJ-, will do. Now I have to go to a customer to repair a labelprinter :) [09:43] Will be back later or some other day :D [09:43] Aavar: tell them to stop licking the labels! [09:43] TJ-, I will ;) [09:49] Hey folks [10:21] my wired connection isnt working in ubuntu 18.04, anyone can help me troubleshoot it? I messed around with network interfaces in virt-manager, but now i dont have any network on the host itself. If i go to the gui settings theres just the VPN section and the Network proxy setting [10:27] Okay, so my connection is actually working. But there is no indication of that in the icon on the upper taskbar, or in the gui network settings. For some reason? [10:32] Anyone have an idea of why that could be? [10:35] oikasd: yes, by default NetworkManager is configured NOT to managed wired interfaces! [10:35] But my connection was in the network settings previously, but since messing around with network settings in virt-manager and stuff it has disappeared now. [10:36]