[00:05] <ubptgbot> Ashraf Alaa was added by: Ashraf Alaa
[00:12] <ubptgbot> <Ashraf Alaa> Hey there I wanna know how to download it
 @Ashraf Alaa [Hey there I wanna know how to download it], What device do you have?
[00:42] <ubptgbot> <Ashraf Alaa> Nexus 5
 Use the ubports installer
[01:21] <ubptgbot> MiaErikssen was added by: MiaErikssen
 @MiaErikssen [MiaErikssen was added by: dohbee], welcome, are you here for the spam?
 Mmm canned ham
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/lVsWkM3J.webp
 mmm, rum ham
 Ham and cheddar melt ... I think that will be my lunch tomorrow
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/2AVB4TtB.mp4
 Lol
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/3ILMbC6t.png
 I see nothing wrong here
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/iupDX2tM.png
 Everything is working as expected
 LOL what device is that?
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/M2GKN0bD.png
 No problems whatsoever
 @UniversalSuperBox [Everything is working as expected], wait till you try moving a window somewhere on the right most side of the screen 😉
 I don't think you understand how unresponsive this is
 There's like a 2cm square that I can use to move the mouse
 oh I see, you don't have a proper mouse 😁 … on Nexus 7, touchpad works althought right click still works as left click
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/UkwKRjix.png
 Look mom no wires
 so you've seen the other half of reality? 😂
 ... i didnt know that was possible on UT
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/Bvb06YHi.png
 WE'VE GONE TOO DEEP
 @UniversalSuperBox [Look mom no wires], is that a Fairphone 2?.  I have this set up for my Meizu Pro 5 - works ok, even if touchpad is laggy and font rendering a littlw wonky
 Should do a camception shot lol
 Oh sure
 @UniversalSuperBox [Look mom no wires], [Edit] is that a Fairphone 2?.  I have this set up for my Meizu Pro 5 - works ok, even if touchpad is laggy and font rendering a little wonky
 How does one set this up?
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/sKW05ds7.png
 You buy the Microsoft Display adapter, plug it in, go to Brightness & Display, fail to connect it a few times, Unity8 freezes, restart Unity8, and then it just works ™️
 this is edge?
 Yep
 Hmm I wonder if the connect app on win 10 would work?
 OH!
 protip: try the multiscreen branch :)
 @Tygerpro [Hmm I wonder if the connect app on win 10 would work?], Probably not
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/fCX1ieDF.png
 I gotta get my N5 back from my grandmother so I can try this stuff out
 It's a little stretched because it's a 16:10 display
 @mariogrip [protip: try the multiscreen branch :)], there's such thing?!
 @Tygerpro [I gotta get my N5 back from my grandmother so I can try this stuff out], wait, she runs ubuntu touch? :P
 @Javacookies [there's such thing?!], I was thinking the same thing
 @Javacookies [there's such thing?!], https://github.com/ubports/unity8/pull/164
 there be many dragons there
 many
 System Settings -> Brightness & Display -> check on "External Display" -> choose the Miracast adapter in "Wireless Display“ list
 @Tygerpro [Hmm I wonder if the connect app on win 10 would work?], haven't had success but I don't have a know working device such as PRO5
 @mariogrip [wait, she runs ubuntu touch? :P], No, she liked my note 4 with the stylus (she likes to draw) but she liked it overall
 @mariogrip [https://github.com/ubports/unity8/pull/164], 😱 Im gonna try it!
 This is a neat party trick, but it's really not usable daily
 Too much compression
 @Javacookies [haven't had success but I don't have a know working device such as PRO5], I wanna try it myself, and my note 8 works with that app, but thats android
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/EjUohYA1.png this is cool! :D
 @Tygerpro [I gotta get my N5 back from my grandmother so I can try this stuff out], I don't think Nexus 5 supports wireless display - it sends to external display via Slimport adapter instead
 @UniversalSuperBox [This is a neat party trick, but it's really not usable daily], yeah
 @UniversalSuperBox [This is a neat party trick, but it's really not usable daily], well i guess you can watch a youtube video with it
 @TotalSonic [I don't think Nexus 5 supports wireless display - it sends to external display v …], Only one way to find out
 @mariogrip [well i guess you can watch a youtube video with it], Or a full length movie off a NAS
 @TotalSonic [I don't think Nexus 5 supports wireless display - it sends to external display v …], it does, but the wifi driver is funky, so it sometimes struggles with seting up the dual wifi thing
 #broadcom
 @mariogrip [it does, but the wifi driver is funky, so it sometimes struggles with seting up …], is it working better on edge now?
 No
 @TotalSonic [is it working better on edge now?], probobly not, not changed that part of the device
 @mariogrip [<reply to media>], 😍 seriously I've been waiting for this workspace/multi-monitor since 2015 😂
 I find it very useful with my note 8 on my win 10 laptop
 @Tygerpro [I find it very useful with my note 8 on my win 10 laptop], OT but try scrcpy 😉
 @Javacookies [😍 seriously I've been waiting for this workspace/multi-monitor since 2015 😂], well it's buggy :P make sure you install qtubuntu-android, since it removed it when i to install that when i tried the branch
 oh english... it's 5am here soon
 @mariogrip [probobly not, not changed that part of the device], did you change anything to make wireless display work on Nexus 5?
 @Javacookies [OT but try scrcpy 😉], I tried that in the past, couldnt get it to work
 @mariogrip [oh english... it's 5am here soon], I was awake when it was 5am here, there's no issue with that 😝
 @Javacookies [did you change anything to make wireless display work on Nexus 5?], tried a while back, but its still really funky
 @mariogrip [tried a while back, but its still really funky], okau, because sadly my Nexus 5's slimport doesn't work anymore 😭
 @Javacookies [okau, because sadly my Nexus 5's slimport doesn't work anymore 😭], oh? is that just edge or hardware?
 Hey Marius, if I were to create a rootfs of my own, is there a list of packages/services installed I can use?
 @Tygerpro [Hey Marius, if I were to create a rootfs of my own, is there a list of packages/ …], Jup, the ubuntu-touch meta package
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch-meta
 but it's easier to just "apt install ubuntu-touch" after adding ubports repo
 The color seems really weird
 The upper right corner of the splash was blue, not purple
 @Tygerpro [Hey Marius, if I were to create a rootfs of my own, is there a list of packages/ …], there is also: https://github.com/ubports/livecd-rootfs
 @mariogrip [but it's easier to just "apt install ubuntu-touch" after adding ubports repo], Ahh ok, I want to try making my own rootfs as an experiment see if I can make one thats based on something like 18.04 LTS with a custom package list
 Mainly as a Tegra 3 rootfs
 @mariogrip [oh? is that just edge or hardware?], I guess it's hardware because MTP/data doesn't anymore as well..same with my MX4 😭
 @Tygerpro [Ahh ok, I want to try making my own rootfs as an experiment see if I can make on …], but the easyest is https://github.com/ubports/rootstock-ng/tree/xenial
 @mariogrip [but the easyest is https://github.com/ubports/rootstock-ng/tree/xenial], `./rootstock-touch -o out -a armhf -s xenial`
 maybe you have an HTC 10 prebuilt images there as well? 😜
 @mariogrip [./rootstock-touch -o out -a armhf -s xenial], Can I specify any Ubuntu version in place of xenial?
 @Tygerpro [Ahh ok, I want to try making my own rootfs as an experiment see if I can make on …], i would go the route of installing a minimal bionic image from canonical, and then add ubports repo and install the meta package
 @Tygerpro [Can I specify any Ubuntu version in place of xenial?], you can, but never tried it
 @mariogrip [i would go the route of installing a minimal bionic image from canonical, and th …], Thats what I was thinking, but I wanna be able to base on different versions to test performance
 you would need to change the hardcored things at least: https://github.com/ubports/rootstock-ng/blob/xenial/rootstock-touch#L276
 Yeah, I am starting to piece this all together, but I am less than a total noob when it comes to rootfs
 @Tygerpro [Yeah, I am starting to piece this all together, but I am less than a total noob …], not really helping that debians rootfs system is a mindfak
 :P
 Yeah no kidding, thats when asking someone more versed in rootfs helps
 Do you know of UT would work with other GUI's besides mir and unity 8
 No
 well depends tbh
 well is the question if "we" will work on other GUI's? or if UT works with other GUI's
 the first is no, the latter is depends
 If UT works with other GUI's cause from what Ive heard a tegra 3 cant run either mir or unity 8, I forget which
 well then it's no longer UT? since unity8 is kinda what defines UT
 it's just ubuntu without
 @Tygerpro [If UT works with other GUI's cause from what Ive heard a tegra 3 cant run either …], are you sure mir wont run on it?
 I have to port it to find out, havent been able to work on that due to some personal reasons as of late, one of which is a borked charger
 @Tygerpro [If UT works with other GUI's cause from what Ive heard a tegra 3 cant run either …], if it uses mesa it should run just fine
 I know there is a UT port that was based on cm11 and Ubuntu 12? That works but I think its a different GUI from what it is now
 easy way to know, does it run wayland? if so mir should work
 I can also boot Ubuntu 12.04 desktop on it, if that helps
 @Tygerpro [I know there is a UT port that was based on cm11 and Ubuntu 12? That works but I …], back then unity8 used surfaceflinger, so there was no need for mir etc
 @Tygerpro [I can also boot Ubuntu 12.04 desktop on it, if that helps], that's x11
 Ok, is it possible to still use surface flinger or has that been depricated
 Long gone
 I figured, think I could update that super old image?
 No
 the archutecture completly changed since then
 we now run a android in a small container
 before it was ubuntu in a container on top of android
 Ok, so its back to my original plan of a custom rootfs if I cant et it to work with UT as is
 Ill have to try this again and see what happens, I will def let you know if I have to go the custom rootfs route cause it might be handy for alegacy version?
 may i ask, why not use the current rootfs based on 16.04?
 Well I plan to, but if my Tegra 3 cant boot it or is unusable with it then being able to change the base might be a easier solution than making a hack or something for it
 ah ok. if you go to bionic. i would recoment trying it on a known good device first to confirm it works
 Like a N5?
 forexample yeah
 watch out for systemd :)
 Ok, didnt think of that part, and yeah I am not looking forward to beating systemd with a coding stick lol
 Is this something that could be used for legacy devices that were once supported and no longer are?
 Probably not. They are no longer supported because Ubuntu Touch moved on, and it's moved further since then.
 Ok, was just a thought
 Hey I left my terminal running overnight and the last thing I entered was exit. … now I opened terminal again and found this line
 (Photo, 1080x437) https://irc.ubports.com/cIUAMEVY.png
 I surely did not enter it. I have no idea what it means. do I have to worry?
 Btw how can I copy and paste in the terminal?
 @Flohack [Can you follow this article? https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2249/no-more-wlan- …], I tried some things but this doesn't give me any results. doesn't matter if I use sudo or not
 (Photo, 1080x484) https://irc.ubports.com/nAMz68Fs.png
 @einserpasch [<reply to media>], Well, off the phone that would be adding a PPA. Could that be something you tried in the past and accidentally retrieved from bash history? … On the phone that command ought to fail anyway, unless you've messed with making the system rw.
 @einserpasch [I surely did not enter it. I have no idea what it means. do I have to worry?], I've had the same experience on my UT, I saw unusual texts in my bash history and I was really convinced that someone hacked into my phone.....then days has passed and it slowly sinked into my thoughts that I was the one the put them 😂 … Note
[08:35] <ubptgbot> : they are not commands and instead sentences that seems like talking to me 😂
 @UniversalSuperBox [<reply to media>], Is it meant to be that small?
[10:54] <ubptgbot> <rémus Rome> Hi, where can'i find the list of improvment for a new version of ut? I am on the rc canal, thanks.
 @rémus Rome [Hi, where can'i find the list of improvment for a new version of ut? I am on the …], Unfortunately there is nothing like a changelog. Usually too many small changes. It would take considerable effort to keep track. And that energy is better put into improvements. 😇
 One could browse the issuetracker to see closed issues to get and idea.
 Hi All, can someone with an official app on the device take a screenshot from this group?
 Do you mean on Android?
 yes
 (Photo, 640x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0Loo9bHt.png Screenshot (7 ago. 2019 13:46:32)
 sorry was out of the room. once more plz
 (Photo, 640x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/a9sk2c2C.png Screenshot (7 ago. 2019 13:47:52)
 I can repeat the screenshot 😃
 Ok I dont get the message. Was this only in secret chats hmm
 Can someone start a secret chat with me xD
 yes
[12:02] <ubptgbot> Victor was added by: Victor
 @Flohack [Can someone start a secret chat with me xD], it's not secret anymore 😝
 @Flohack [Ok I dont get the message. Was this only in secret chats hmm], yep, screenshot notifications are only in secret chats, not normal chats
 Hello! Someone tested Ubuntu Touch on Sony Xperia X?
 There's a work-in-progress port of Ubuntu Touch to the Xperia X, but it's not complete. It's missing calling, camera and multimedia playback.
 @Victor [Hello! Someone tested Ubuntu Touch on Sony Xperia X?], Do you have experience with ROMs and development? I'd need a helping hand (it's my daily driver device, so I can't work on it all the time)
 @fredldotme [Do you have experience with ROMs and development? I'd need a helping hand (it's …], No I have not. I have only a device, where I would test Ubuntu Touch. But if you have an Instruction, how to install it. I would make it.
 @kipters [yep, screenshot notifications are only in secret chats, not normal chats], also, i don't think teleports (or any app in UT) can know that a screenshot is being taken
 @Victor [No I have not. I have only a device, where I would test Ubuntu Touch. But if you …], The instructions to build and flash an image yourself are here: https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/98
[13:44] <ubptgbot> OD was added by: OD
 @fredldotme [The instructions to build and flash an image yourself are here: https://github.c …], OK
 Can I emulate ubuntu touch on linux desktop?
 no
 there is no working emulator option currently
 @mariogrip [<reply to media>], Oh my god merge it :)
[15:22] <ubptgbot> dipso3 was added by: dipso3
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/a91OZJJY.webp
 @UniversalSuperBox [<reply to media>], Is that Opo?
 Yes
 @UniversalSuperBox [Yes], Nice work Dalton :-)
 Well considering this was all I did: https://t.me/ubports/222128
 I still want to play with the multi-screen that Marius posted
 @Tygerpro [I still want to play with the multi-screen that Marius posted], me too! let me know if you tried it and what steps you did
 I have to get my N5 back first, or get a supported device to try it on, not sure which way ill go yet, thinking about picking up a OPO
[16:54] <ubptgbot> Jalvathi was added by: Jalvathi
[17:06] <ubptgbot> fufkdkdodod was added by: fufkdkdodod
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 spam, spam, spam, eggs, bacon, spam
 maybe it'd be an idea to set up @GroupHelpBot
 @mzanetti [maybe it'd be an idea to set up @GroupHelpBot], so we could say to ask the bot instead of just linking to the supported devices page? :P
 it can auto-kick spammers
 (I posted that as a response to some spam messages, which have been deleted by now)
 oh
 we do have a bot in here already to auto-kick spammers; maybe it needs a rules update or something though, not sure
 ah ok
 seems there's been a strategy change recently for spammers where bots join, say hi, then edit the message with spam content
 right... ofc
[18:02] <ubptgbot> Nathan Willson was added by: Nathan Willson
[18:03] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> Is anyone else having trouble getting their contacts from their google account? If so do you know any work arounds?
 @mariogrip [well it's buggy :P make sure you install qtubuntu-android, since it removed it w …], there are no JENKINS build for Unity 8 and qtmir PRs 😞
 @Nathan Willson [Is anyone else having trouble getting their contacts from their google account? …], What I did was save all my Google account contacts to a vcf file and then imported that into UT's Contacts.  I keep this vcf file backed up and up to date by saving all contacts in UT's Contacts apps to a vcf file I manually export to i
[18:33] <ubptgbot> n a Documents "Shared" folder that I  keep synced via UBsync to my NextCloud account.
 ...it would be nice if that process could be streamlined via an update to the Contacts app though
[18:36] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> Steven Berson  … I'll try it out. Thanks
 @Nathan Willson [Is anyone else having trouble getting their contacts from their google account? …], Yes, I always had these problems since my first time use of Ubuntu Touch. It works now and then, but fails on many other times. Modifications I do in the UT conrtacts app tend to never make it to my Google account. The other way rou
[18:56] <ubptgbot> nd it seems to work more often, but is far from reliable. I don't even know if a bug has been filed for this problem. If not, we should do so :-).
 @TotalSonic [What I did was save all my Google account contacts to a vcf file and then import …], That's a workaround, but it really should work natively. Contacts is a core UT app.
 @Nathan Willson [Steven Berson  … I'll try it out. Thanks], btw - to import from a vcf file use the File Manager app - locate the vcf file and click on it - choose "Open file with another app" from the pop up menu  - and then choose the Contacts app from the list.
 Good to know, thanks.
 @ruedigerkupper [That's a workaround, but it really should work natively. Contacts is a core UT a …], I completely agree - but like all things requires developers' time to do so.  As an end user and not a coder myself all I can do is encourage people to make feature enhancements as well as donate towards bounties for these.
 @ruedigerkupper [That's a workaround, but it really should work natively. Contacts is a core UT a …], Google is unfortunately a third party service though, and proprietary at that. So we can't guarantee it will always work reliably.
 Direct import of vcf's from inside the Contacts app is definitely a basic feature addition I would like to see as well.
 (beyond the need of people working on this stuff more)
 @TotalSonic [Direct import of vcf's from inside the Contacts app is definitely a basic featur …], it should be fairly easy to add this, and would be a good intro issue for a new contributor to work on
 @dohbee [Google is unfortunately a third party service though, and proprietary at that. S …], I've been happy getting rid of Google account linking completely from my UT devices.  Calendar sync via CalDav on a NextCloud account, using other services for email, and backing up and updating via vcf has allowed to do so.
 @dohbee [Google is unfortunately a third party service though, and proprietary at that. S …], [Edit] I've been happy getting rid of Google account linking completely from my UT devices.  Calendar sync via CalDav on a NextCloud account, using other services for email, and backing up and updating Contacts via vcf has allowed to do so.
 @TotalSonic [I completely agree - but like all things requires developers' time to do so.  As …], @Steven Berson Right, not every user is a developer (not even with UBPorts ;-) ). That's okay. A thing you can always do, though, is writing informative bug reports that developers can act on.
 @ruedigerkupper [@Steven Berson Right, not every user is a developer (not even with UBPorts ;-) ) …], yup - I need to get a Gitlab account for myself to do so
 @dohbee [Google is unfortunately a third party service though, and proprietary at that. S …], Sure.
 @TotalSonic [I've been happy getting rid of Google account linking completely from my UT devi …], I don't even sync contacts on Android. And I don't really use calendar anyway (and don't have my work mail/calendar on personal phone either)
 @dohbee [I don't even sync contacts on Android. And I don't really use calendar anyway (a …], I run my own biz and have to coordinate tag teaming parenting - so Calendar sync is a must to me - and I think having up to date Contacts backed up is basic common sense as well.  I never got around to setting up my own NextCloud server - but
[19:08] <ubptgbot> OwnCube.com made it easy to sign up for an account - and with UBsync it makes backups (which I use for all my phone camera photos and videos as well) and syncing easy, and done in the background without me having to think about it.
 Hm, that's probalby what I should have done, too. However, back in the days when Google still looked like a cool thing and not like the Über-Company, I decided to use theier services (which are, from a functionality point of view, still excellent). I'm somehow stuck to them and I would appreceate them being integrated in UBPorts (o
[19:09] <ubptgbot> n an opt-in basis, obviously).
 [Edit] @Rodney Hm, that's probalby what I should have done, too. However, back in the days when Google still looked like a cool thing and not like the Über-Company, I decided to use theier services (which are, from a functionality point of view, still excellent). I'm somehow stuck to them and I would appreceate them being integrate
[19:10] <ubptgbot> d in UBPorts (on an opt-in basis, obviously).
 @ruedigerkupper [@Rodney Hm, that's probalby what I should have done, too. However, back in the d …], what telegram client are you using? that is not my username btw. but as far as google goes, yes, i agree, but there's only so much we can do ourselves, not being google. :)
 Understood, and I appreciate the work you do. I am using Teleports on UBPorts as a client. It does not display your user name, just "Rodney". Another bug report, I guess ;-).
 maybe teleports still needs some work on the autocompletion?
 Not Teleports, it's the autocompletion of UBPorts in general. That's a thing I always wanted to help improve. I should go and develop, I guess ;-).
 @ruedigerkupper [@Rodney Hm, that's probalby what I should have done, too. However, back in the d …], Unfortunately Google has been making some changes recently that potentially  make being able to link up as a 3rd party client with their services in the future more difficult.  To me even though a transition to different digtial eco-sy
[19:18] <ubptgbot> stems can be a pain to go through - it still makes sense to go with truly open standards options so that no matter what a corporation decides in the future for their API's our capabilities while choosing to use an alternate privacy respecting OS are not interrupted.
 ... as such I've weaned myself completely off of Google as far as my mobile use goes.
 I understand for others that have to interface with Google services for their work wouldn't be able to do this though
 @ruedigerkupper [Not Teleports, it's the autocompletion of UBPorts in general. That's a thing I a …], on android, telegram pops up a list of names/usernames for completion when you start typing @ruedigerkupper though for example, separate from system keyboard word suggestions
 TELEports is still getting lots of features implemented into it though - so it's more of a feature enhancement needed than "bug" at this point.
 @TotalSonic [Unfortunately Google has been making some changes recently that potentially  mak …], I recently set up a Nextcloud instance at my home server. It pretty much offers the basics of functionality that Google does. I don't see me ditching Google right now, though. They're just too good. Sorry to say that (almost).
 @TotalSonic [TELEports is still getting lots of features implemented into it though - so it's …], Yes, it's in active development. Still I like it better than the "classical" Telegram client (which dates to the days of Canonical, if I am right). Teleports is really a lot faster, but not yet that feature rich.
 @ruedigerkupper [I recently set up a Nextcloud instance at my home server. It pretty much offers …], yeah - for me Libre Office does everything I need as far as word processing, spread sheets, simple graphic layouts and presentations - but my needs for these are very simple and I don't have to collaborate with others on these things fo
[19:29] <ubptgbot> r my work. On UT the "uWriter" app works well enough for typing out simple docs on the phone as well.  But I can understand others' needs are deeper for these things than mine.
 @ruedigerkupper [Yes, it's in active development. Still I like it better than the "classical" Tel …], yeah - the snappiness of Teleports is super nice.  Opens and loads fast, and scrolls nicely as well - something the old Telegram client definitely didn't always do.
 @dohbee [what telegram client are you using? that is not my username btw. but as far as g …], What ist your username, then?
 @ruedigerkupper [What ist your username, then?], it's @dohbee
 is. Sorry, German autocorrection ;-).
 Since it hasn't been added to Teleports yet - the "WebTelegram" webapp in the Open Store can display username's if you press on the user's icon pic - https://open-store.io/app/webtelegram.neothethird
 @TotalSonic [Since it hasn't been added to Teleports yet - the "WebTelegram" webapp in the Op …], or, one can just select a message and reply directly rather than using username pings :)
 switching apps to find a username is a bit much
 @dohbee [or, one can just select a message and reply directly rather than using username …], that too!  Sometimes if you are trying to reach someone in particular at a future time it helps to know user name though
 sure, as well as their temporality
 @dohbee [switching apps to find a username is a bit much], I keep WebTelegram in addition to TELEports installed on my UT devices because it fills in the blanks for missing features that have yet to be added to TELEports though.  Besides that, sometimes things I've copied from other apps won't paste into Teleports, but I can get it to
[20:10] <ubptgbot> work with WebTelegram.
 sure
 @TotalSonic [Since it hasn't been added to Teleports yet - the "WebTelegram" webapp in the Op …], It is available in TELEports.
 @imraniqbal [It is available in TELEports.], how?
 (Photo, 1077x351) https://irc.ubports.com/YBIOcF78.png
 Click on the image on the left.
 hey - whadday know - it does work.  For some reason when I tried it earlier that wasn't working
 The username only works if the person your trying to reach has one, for example I dont
 thanks for the correction!!
 @Tygerpro [The username only works if the person your trying to reach has one, for example …], ok, that makes sense
 In my defense I dont have one cause I dont like being pinged for everything
 @Tygerpro [The username only works if the person your trying to reach has one, for example …], Now why don't you have one yet?
 More like it - In your Telegram privacy settings you can decide whether you want to display username or telephone or not.
 you have a username regardless
 @TotalSonic [you have a username regardless], no, it's not required to set one
 @Tygerpro [In my defense I dont have one cause I dont like being pinged for everything], OK, we'll just keep replying to you!
 @dohbee [no, it's not required to set one], oh, ok, corrected again
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/XcMFye5O.png Username not required
 [Edit] hey - whaddaya know - it does work.  For some reason when I tried it earlier that wasn't working
 @Tygerpro [<reply to media>], Might want to remove that?
 Your number.
 yeah - we can see your telephone number in that screen shot
 but I was indeed mistaken!!
 Yeah, if a unknown number calls I dont answer anyways, but good catch, I missed it
[20:22] <ubptgbot> Taekky was added by: Taekky
 Anyone is welcome to call, but Im not gonna be answering lol
 Does it link that image somewhere when bridging to IRC?
 @Tygerpro [Anyone is welcome to call, but Im not gonna be answering lol], what if i call :P
 @imraniqbal [Does it link that image somewhere when bridging to IRC?], yes
 So is it still available there?
 @imraniqbal [So is it still available there?], yes, but i can delete it from the server
 i will do that
 @mariogrip [what if i call :P], If its important youll leave a message lol
 @Tygerpro [Anyone is welcome to call, but Im not gonna be answering lol], Good thing @mariogrip was around!
 Eh, telemarketers all over already have it, but yeah, probably
 @Tygerpro [Eh, telemarketers all over already have it, but yeah, probably], Now telemarketers all over the world will have it!
 Ubuntu Touch OTA-10 is slated for release on Wednesday, August 14, 2019. You can help us with Quality Assurance in this final week by following the instructions in our Call for Testing! … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/call-for-testing-ubuntu-touch-ota-10-238
 @imraniqbal [Now telemarketers all over the world will have it!], Now if only they had something I wanted
 @UniversalSuperBox [Ubuntu Touch OTA-10 is slated for release on Wednesday, August 14, 2019. You can …], YAY :D
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/6SJ8xsJM.webp
 OH NEW STICKER PACK
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/f8Uz5F6H.webp
 @mariogrip [OH NEW STICKER PACK], Day late and a dollar short, buddy. ;)
 Lol
 @UniversalSuperBox [Day late and a dollar short, buddy. ;)], I knew it was comming, but havent seen it before :P
 I recall it being mentioned after Marius signed off last Q&A
 Well I mean we did talk about it on the last Q&A
 that's what you get for leaving the Q&A early
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/7DCRoUld.webp
 lol
 I couldn't exactly tell which emoji that one was supposed to be
 @UniversalSuperBox [Ubuntu Touch OTA-10 is slated for release on Wednesday, August 14, 2019. You can …], A release without me YAY :D
 I think its supposed to be yumi masquerading as android
 Right, but you assign emoji to stickers
 Ahh, yeah, forgot about that part
 The new stickers are amazing
 @UniversalSuperBox [Right, but you assign emoji to stickers], you don't have to though i guess. since when i look at so many they don't have any characters pop up to show what they are meant to be for
 @mariogrip [<reply to media>], awesome. :)
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/sROzmseD.png
 Yep still trippy
[21:52] <ubptgbot> @hiccupstix was added by: @hiccupstix
 how early does aethercast start streaming, when booting up?
 Hey guys, been wanting to install Ubports' version of Ubuntu Touch for a while. Have an old Pixel (first gen) sitting around but having difficulty finding documentation. I understand it's not officially supported but has anyone had any luck whatsoever installing it from a Xububtu 18.04 computer?
 @dohbee [how early does aethercast start streaming, when booting up?], Well you have to start casting then restart unity8
 But then it's pretty fast, the compositor might be handling the displays?
 @@hiccupstix [Hey guys, been wanting to install Ubports' version of Ubuntu Touch for a while. …], no, as it is not supported. one would need to port it first
 Wait, no, aethercast is. Duh.
 @dohbee [no, as it is not supported. one would need to port it first], This I could have quite a bit of fun with.
 Thanks for the heads up @dohbee
 @@hiccupstix [This I could have quite a bit of fun with.], http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 @dohbee [http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html], You're doing the Lord's work, my friend.
 There was someone working on a port to the first-gen XL, I don't think the regular one though
 My only pixel porting experience is with marlin and taimen. This shouldn't be overly difficult.
 Everytime I say that I regret doing so, but hey at least it'll be fun.
 Ubuntu Touch is a little different, but there are lots of people to help. You might hit some roadblocks that are due to the system and not you, but the more we hit them the closer we get to tearing them down.
 i guess it may or may not make my pixel more useful if you do get a port working
 It's not bricked any more?
 no, the one i bricked got replaced; and i didn't brick the second one
 Shouldn't matter, rooting doesn't void Pixel warranties. I've hardbricked three or four over the years.
 it's just garbage
 ahh
 "It's not bricked, just bad" lol
 the case is nice and all, but it had weirdness with bluetooth and the screen and after a while i gave up on it and just got the htc
 Idk I'm typing this from a OnePlus 7 Pro with 12GB RAM and it consistently uses over 50% of that available RAM. My Pixel has 4GB and never uses more than 2. It's snappier than my OnePlus even with Fanatic mode on.
 it might be better now, given that it has android 9, but meh
 What could Android be doing with 6GB RAM
 what the heck are you putting in memory that uses up 6GB on a phone
 my workstation isn't even using 4GB, and I have 32 total
 These are all good questions.
 i very rarely use more than 8 even
 The answer: "Java."
 Yup. I have single boards that are more efficient. My NanoPC-T4 has 4GB of RAM and I don't even know what to do with it and I actually use kvm fairly regularly.
 @UniversalSuperBox [The answer: "Java."], "i have 300 tabs open in chrome"
 Start up all your apps in Ubuntu Touch then SIGSTOP them all. They're ready to go instantly, but at what cost
 ....I'm not telling you anything you don't already know but in developer mode you can limit background processes to the hilt and I've experimented to hard close all activities and I'll go to settings and Android OS is still using 4.6GB RAM.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Start up all your apps in Ubuntu Touch then SIGSTOP them all. They're ready to g …], i mean, i could do that on my PC too i guess, but what's the point really
 Yeah, once you've got solid state storage it really doesn't matter
 even without it. i don't really need to keep freecad and inkscape and gimp and whatnot open all day long when i'm not using them
 "Unused RAM is wasted RAM" … "Yeah, if the used RAM is doing something for the user"
 or all the games
 Android System, Android OS, System UI collectively using 4.6GB of RAM as I type this.
 I don't game.
 Hmm, wireless display doesn't quite work on RC but it works almost on edge
 I just wanted stupid specs I'd never need for bragging rights - bragging rights to who, is anyone's guess because who cares lol.
 Now all I have is a super hot Fairphone 2 and sadness
 Successful day of testing!
 Wait, no, here we go
 it crashed
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/zDTCm5p1.png
 yay
 Full disclosure I'm going to ask some noob questions here. What's up with Fairphone 2, is it well-made? I'm new to this project, so excuse any dumb questions. I loved my old Nexus 5P, would I be just as well off buying one and installing Touch on there?
 Hey, no dumb questions here
 Don't test me, sir. 😋
 Meaning "That is not a dumb question" not "dumb questions are not allowed" lol
 Lol I totally understand what you meant and it was kind of you to say.
 The Fairphone comes at a price, but it's a pretty good piece of hardware. I've been generally happy with mine, though its use is limited in the US
 It's got the same chipset as the Oneplus One
 The Nexus 5 is supported by Ubuntu Touch, the 5X is not
 Oh my bad.
 I've been known to abuse mine to compile Mir and Unity8... if it does that, it can probably handle your workload.
 and there is no 5P :P
 there is an in-progress port of 6P though
 Assuming Florian stops swearing at it
 i had two here and i would say they are prone to intermittent contacts...
 in-progress != actively progressing ;)
 Right, the contacts can get some corrosion on them and then the hardware that they connect becomes unresponsive. Sliding the parts around fixes it.
 (typo sorry) What are the warranty perimeters of the Fairphone? Only reason I've stuck with Google is the ability to root and hardbrick as much as the heart desires, only to have a fresh new phone FedEx express shipped to me within the week from Google. Other than that I have nothing good to say about the company. I'd love to gravitat
[22:22] <ubptgbot> e elsewhere.
 Hmm, not sure about that. There are only refurbished units available now as they gear up for the Fairphone 3
 If you're just looking to dip your toes in, the Nexus 5 can be had for cheap. That's where I'd go.
 "Yours to open, yours to keep", they encourage you to repair it yourself and replace the modules yourself... i would we astonished if you would loose the warranty by installing another os... But i didn't check to be honest and not sure what happens if you brick it...
 Well, don't run `fastboot flash bootloader` and it should be fine
 ....what phone is that ever safe on?
 maybe @Ingo_FP_Angel knows something about the warranty conditions...
 Seriously, that's a death sentence usually is it not?
 Yep
 Lol okay but I love that you remembered you're talking to a noob here so you're looking out for me, thank you Dalton!
 @hummlbach ["Yours to open, yours to keep", they encourage you to repair it yourself and rep …], I have bought a FP2 with android in 2017 and I flashed it to UT in 2019. Then I had some hardware problem. I contact the FP support and they were reactive and kind. I had my cam and mic modules replaced for free. They sent the modules and I c
[22:58] <ubptgbot> hanged them 🙂
 👍