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didrocksgood morning06:31
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:34
didrockssalut oSoMoN, ça va ?06:34
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, ça va bien et toi?06:45
didrocksoSoMoN: ça va, vacances ce soir ! :)06:46
oSoMoNcool, profites-en bien!06:50
oSoMoNelles sont bien méritées06:50
didrocksmerci ;)06:58
=== pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski
seb128gooood morning desktopers07:18
jameshhi seb12807:18
seb128hey jamesh, how are you?07:18
jameshGood.  I put together a proposal to let snaps have more control over their desktop file IDs: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/proposal-allow-snaps-to-specify-their-exact-desktop-file-id/1268907:19
jameshThe use case that we can't work around for the current naming scheme is desktop notifications on GNOME 307:20
Trevinhomorning guys07:22
Trevinhohi seb128, jamesh, didrocks and oSoMoN07:22
seb128hey Trevinho, wb! did you have a good  time off?07:23
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, great one07:23
seb128jamesh, it would resolve quite some headache to not have the .desktop renamed indeed07:23
seb128Trevinho, nice :)07:23
didrockshey Trevinho, jamesh, seb12807:25
jameshseb128: yeah.  It definitely isn't the first time we've had problems with this.  I think it is the first time that "app developers should just deal with it" doesn't work as a response though.07:25
jameshhi Trevinho, didrocks07:26
dufluMorning didrocks, oSoMoN, seb128, Trevinho07:26
* duflu waves to jamesh07:26
seb128hey duflu07:27
jameshhi duflu07:28
dufluTrevinho, seb128, anyone, could you please help me to add the Performance tag to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/719 ?07:54
Trevinhok07:54
Trevinhoduflu: by the way in general don't add this line to the subject, ask to be added in the channel or in the description07:55
dufluTrevinho, I don't know what else to do -- usually it's ignored or not actioned for multiple months. So it's the only reminder I have07:56
duflufor keeping things organised07:56
Trevinhoduflu: just ask me in case07:56
dufluTrevinho, OK then, also !711 please?07:57
Trevinhok07:57
Trevinhoduflu: you already have updated the commit message there?07:57
dufluTrevinho, I don't understand ...?07:58
WimpressMorning.07:58
dufluTrevinho, thanks for those07:59
dufluMorning Wimpress07:59
seb128hey Wimpress07:59
WimpressTrevinho: Any chance you could include this for 19.10? https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libwnck/merge_requests/1007:59
WimpressHas features required by MATE 😁08:00
WimpressGreetings from the Dales seb128 and duflu o/08:00
TrevinhoWimpress: hi, I can have a look08:00
dufluWimpress, so is that holiday or work?08:00
dufluor both?08:00
WimpressHoliday.08:00
seb128Wimpress, enjoy and stop IRCing! :)08:01
WimpressHere for a couple more days. Weekend in Stratford-on-Avon and then on to Devon for a week.08:01
dufluThose names ring a bell. Sounds like something in one of my travel books of places you should visit08:02
WimpressWell, Ubuntu MATE is fun time for me. Spent the evening listening to music with my feet up, sipping wine and working through the bug backlog.08:02
WimpressMost relaxing 😊08:03
seb128:)08:03
seb128brb, changing location08:06
willcookemorning all08:10
dufluMorning willcooke08:11
willcookeafternoon duflu, how goes?08:11
dufluWimpress, google seems to show that it's pretty :)08:11
dufluwillcooke, minor road bumps but going well now08:11
dufluYou willcooke?08:11
Wimpressduflu: Yep, it's gorgeous. Hiking to the highest pub in England today 🍻08:13
willcookeduflu, still trying to wake up :)08:15
willcookeWimpress, POIDH08:17
didrockshey willcooke, Wimpress08:26
willcookeAnyone seen this before:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/183931808:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1839318 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Fresh 18.04.2 install has an odd launcher item 'Install RELEASE'" [Undecided,New]08:26
willcookemorning didrocks08:26
willcookeI installed 18.04 17 times yesterday and didnt see that happen once08:26
dufluHmm, that sounds familiar08:27
duflubut I haven't seen it recently08:27
dufluI have definitely seen it08:28
willcookeI googled and found a few people having it, but the closest I could get to a reason was when ubiquiuty crashed in the installed with hidpi, but that was fixed in .108:29
dufluI assume there are other ubiquity crashes too, judging by the bug growth08:29
willcookedesktoppers - please could you pick an iso test and run it today:  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/405/builds/197643/testcases08:32
willcookeSomeone from Kylin is going to do the CJK test for us08:32
willcookeand I did the non-English installs in French08:32
willcooke;)08:32
dupondjeIf I copy/paste an image into telegram-desktop, my whole (wayland) gnome-shell crashes :(. Thats some gnome-shell bug or? :D08:35
willcookedupondje, dunno, but fwiw it's working in the X session just fine.   Got any logs?08:36
dupondjewillcooke: Aug  8 10:23:47 lt-jeanlouis gnome-shell[2546]: The program 'gnome-shell' received an X Window System error.#012This probably reflects a bug in the program.#012The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.#012  (Details: serial 25877 error_code 3 request_code 18 (core protocol) minor_code 0)#012  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;#012   that is,08:39
dupondjeyou will receive the error a while after causing it.#012   To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment#012   variable to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful#012   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)08:40
dufluBOIDH08:40
seb128k, back now08:40
dupondjeAug  8 10:23:47 lt-jeanlouis org.gnome.Shell.desktop[2546]: GNOME Shell crashed with signal 508:40
dupondjeAug  8 10:23:47 lt-jeanlouis org.gnome.Shell.desktop[2546]: == Stack trace for context 0x55d12fa702c0 ==08:40
dupondjebut otherwise nothing fancy :)08:40
willcookeIs that a xwayland thing??08:41
willcookemorning seb12808:41
dufludupondje, please try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Missing_a_crash_report_or_having_a_.crash_attachment08:41
dupondjeduflu: aha! got a .crash :)08:44
dupondjebut ubuntu-bug doesn't seem to create a new bugreport, and neither it shows up in https://errors.ubuntu.com (or there is some delay there?)08:47
dufludupondje, sometimes if you are lucky the .crash file will contain a human-readable stack trace (?)08:47
dufluBut usually not08:47
dufluI'm not sure why it's only sometimes08:48
dufludupondje, try:  apport-cli YOURFILE.crash08:48
dupondjeAha :) https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/821971a2-b9b9-11e9-a4dc-fa163e6cac4608:52
dufludupondje, thanks -> bug 182142708:55
ubot5bug 1821427 in mutter (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in g_log_writer_default() from g_log_structured_array() from g_log_structured_array() from g_log_structured_standard("The program 'gnome-shell' received an X Window System error.\nThis probably reflects a bug in the program.\nThe error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.\n (Details: serial 333851 error_code 3 r");" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182142708:55
dupondjeaha :) I've got a 100% reliable way to reproduce :D08:58
dupondjeduflu: commented on the bug09:00
dufluTa09:00
dupondjehow you can reproduce09:00
dupondjecan't edit the comment, but thats under wayland if that was not clear :)09:01
dufluOh, 7 related upstream bugs?!09:02
* duflu looks deeper09:02
dupondjejoy! If you need some more info, feel free to poke me :) thx!09:02
dupondjeIts indeed like some reports mention. gnome freezes a second or 10, and then crashes/restarts09:08
dupondjebut if you're able to reproduce it, I guess you should be able to fix it quickly :)09:08
willcooketkamppeter, yo!  I tested on Eoan and my printing problems are mostly solved.  Thanks10:32
willcooketkamppeter, is there a cupsd dbg package?11:08
willcookefound it, ignore11:12
dufluFinally: https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/shell-extensions/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/merge_requests/112:08
* duflu falls off chair and fades into the night12:08
seb128willcooke, that g-c-c segfault, was it a one time thing (if so do you remember what you did exactly?) or can trigger it  following some specific steps?13:35
willcookeseb128, I can trigger it fairly often.  I think that cups is dieing behind the scenes13:37
seb128willcooke, can you put the steps you follow and maybe the journal log on the bug?13:38
willcookesure thing13:38
seb128thx13:41
oSoMoNwillcooke, I ran the CJK test just for the fun, and found missing localizations in Simplified Chinese, otherwise good13:56
oSoMoNI'll run more tests in a language I understand now13:56
willcookethank you very much oSoMoN!13:56
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willcookenight all18:17

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