[06:31] <didrocks> good morning
[06:34] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:34] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, ça va ?
[06:45] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, ça va bien et toi?
[06:46] <didrocks> oSoMoN: ça va, vacances ce soir ! :)
[06:50] <oSoMoN> cool, profites-en bien!
[06:50] <oSoMoN> elles sont bien méritées
[06:58] <didrocks> merci ;)
[07:18] <seb128> gooood morning desktopers
[07:18] <jamesh> hi seb128
[07:18] <seb128> hey jamesh, how are you?
[07:19] <jamesh> Good.  I put together a proposal to let snaps have more control over their desktop file IDs: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/proposal-allow-snaps-to-specify-their-exact-desktop-file-id/12689
[07:20] <jamesh> The use case that we can't work around for the current naming scheme is desktop notifications on GNOME 3
[07:22] <Trevinho> morning guys
[07:22] <Trevinho> hi seb128, jamesh, didrocks and oSoMoN
[07:23] <seb128> hey Trevinho, wb! did you have a good  time off?
[07:23] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, great one
[07:23] <seb128> jamesh, it would resolve quite some headache to not have the .desktop renamed indeed
[07:23] <seb128> Trevinho, nice :)
[07:25] <didrocks> hey Trevinho, jamesh, seb128
[07:25] <jamesh> seb128: yeah.  It definitely isn't the first time we've had problems with this.  I think it is the first time that "app developers should just deal with it" doesn't work as a response though.
[07:26] <jamesh> hi Trevinho, didrocks
[07:26] <duflu> Morning didrocks, oSoMoN, seb128, Trevinho
[07:26]  * duflu waves to jamesh
[07:27] <seb128> hey duflu
[07:28] <jamesh> hi duflu
[07:54] <duflu> Trevinho, seb128, anyone, could you please help me to add the Performance tag to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/719 ?
[07:54] <Trevinho> k
[07:55] <Trevinho> duflu: by the way in general don't add this line to the subject, ask to be added in the channel or in the description
[07:56] <duflu> Trevinho, I don't know what else to do -- usually it's ignored or not actioned for multiple months. So it's the only reminder I have
[07:56] <duflu> for keeping things organised
[07:56] <Trevinho> duflu: just ask me in case
[07:57] <duflu> Trevinho, OK then, also !711 please?
[07:57] <Trevinho> k
[07:57] <Trevinho> duflu: you already have updated the commit message there?
[07:58] <duflu> Trevinho, I don't understand ...?
[07:58] <Wimpress> Morning.
[07:59] <duflu> Trevinho, thanks for those
[07:59] <duflu> Morning Wimpress
[07:59] <seb128> hey Wimpress
[07:59] <Wimpress> Trevinho: Any chance you could include this for 19.10? https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libwnck/merge_requests/10
[08:00] <Wimpress> Has features required by MATE 😁
[08:00] <Wimpress> Greetings from the Dales seb128 and duflu o/
[08:00] <Trevinho> Wimpress: hi, I can have a look
[08:00] <duflu> Wimpress, so is that holiday or work?
[08:00] <duflu> or both?
[08:00] <Wimpress> Holiday.
[08:01] <seb128> Wimpress, enjoy and stop IRCing! :)
[08:01] <Wimpress> Here for a couple more days. Weekend in Stratford-on-Avon and then on to Devon for a week.
[08:02] <duflu> Those names ring a bell. Sounds like something in one of my travel books of places you should visit
[08:02] <Wimpress> Well, Ubuntu MATE is fun time for me. Spent the evening listening to music with my feet up, sipping wine and working through the bug backlog.
[08:03] <Wimpress> Most relaxing 😊
[08:03] <seb128> :)
[08:06] <seb128> brb, changing location
[08:10] <willcooke> morning all
[08:11] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[08:11] <willcooke> afternoon duflu, how goes?
[08:11] <duflu> Wimpress, google seems to show that it's pretty :)
[08:11] <duflu> willcooke, minor road bumps but going well now
[08:11] <duflu> You willcooke?
[08:13] <Wimpress> duflu: Yep, it's gorgeous. Hiking to the highest pub in England today 🍻
[08:15] <willcooke> duflu, still trying to wake up :)
[08:17] <willcooke> Wimpress, POIDH
[08:26] <didrocks> hey willcooke, Wimpress
[08:26] <willcooke> Anyone seen this before:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1839318
[08:26] <willcooke> morning didrocks
[08:26] <willcooke> I installed 18.04 17 times yesterday and didnt see that happen once
[08:27] <duflu> Hmm, that sounds familiar
[08:27] <duflu> but I haven't seen it recently
[08:28] <duflu> I have definitely seen it
[08:29] <willcooke> I googled and found a few people having it, but the closest I could get to a reason was when ubiquiuty crashed in the installed with hidpi, but that was fixed in .1
[08:29] <duflu> I assume there are other ubiquity crashes too, judging by the bug growth
[08:32] <willcooke> desktoppers - please could you pick an iso test and run it today:  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/405/builds/197643/testcases
[08:32] <willcooke> Someone from Kylin is going to do the CJK test for us
[08:32] <willcooke> and I did the non-English installs in French
[08:32] <willcooke> ;)
[08:35] <dupondje> If I copy/paste an image into telegram-desktop, my whole (wayland) gnome-shell crashes :(. Thats some gnome-shell bug or? :D
[08:36] <willcooke> dupondje, dunno, but fwiw it's working in the X session just fine.   Got any logs?
[08:39] <dupondje> willcooke: Aug  8 10:23:47 lt-jeanlouis gnome-shell[2546]: The program 'gnome-shell' received an X Window System error.#012This probably reflects a bug in the program.#012The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.#012  (Details: serial 25877 error_code 3 request_code 18 (core protocol) minor_code 0)#012  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;#012   that is,
[08:40] <dupondje> you will receive the error a while after causing it.#012   To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment#012   variable to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful#012   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[08:40] <duflu> BOIDH
[08:40] <seb128> k, back now
[08:40] <dupondje> Aug  8 10:23:47 lt-jeanlouis org.gnome.Shell.desktop[2546]: GNOME Shell crashed with signal 5
[08:40] <dupondje> Aug  8 10:23:47 lt-jeanlouis org.gnome.Shell.desktop[2546]: == Stack trace for context 0x55d12fa702c0 ==
[08:40] <dupondje> but otherwise nothing fancy :)
[08:41] <willcooke> Is that a xwayland thing??
[08:41] <willcooke> morning seb128
[08:41] <duflu> dupondje, please try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Missing_a_crash_report_or_having_a_.crash_attachment
[08:44] <dupondje> duflu: aha! got a .crash :)
[08:47] <dupondje> but ubuntu-bug doesn't seem to create a new bugreport, and neither it shows up in https://errors.ubuntu.com (or there is some delay there?)
[08:47] <duflu> dupondje, sometimes if you are lucky the .crash file will contain a human-readable stack trace (?)
[08:47] <duflu> But usually not
[08:48] <duflu> I'm not sure why it's only sometimes
[08:48] <duflu> dupondje, try:  apport-cli YOURFILE.crash
[08:52] <dupondje> Aha :) https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/821971a2-b9b9-11e9-a4dc-fa163e6cac46
[08:55] <duflu> dupondje, thanks -> bug 1821427
[08:58] <dupondje> aha :) I've got a 100% reliable way to reproduce :D
[09:00] <dupondje> duflu: commented on the bug
[09:00] <duflu> Ta
[09:00] <dupondje> how you can reproduce
[09:01] <dupondje> can't edit the comment, but thats under wayland if that was not clear :)
[09:02] <duflu> Oh, 7 related upstream bugs?!
[09:02]  * duflu looks deeper
[09:02] <dupondje> joy! If you need some more info, feel free to poke me :) thx!
[09:08] <dupondje> Its indeed like some reports mention. gnome freezes a second or 10, and then crashes/restarts
[09:08] <dupondje> but if you're able to reproduce it, I guess you should be able to fix it quickly :)
[10:32] <willcooke> tkamppeter, yo!  I tested on Eoan and my printing problems are mostly solved.  Thanks
[11:08] <willcooke> tkamppeter, is there a cupsd dbg package?
[11:12] <willcooke> found it, ignore
[12:08] <duflu> Finally: https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/shell-extensions/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/merge_requests/1
[12:08]  * duflu falls off chair and fades into the night
[13:35] <seb128> willcooke, that g-c-c segfault, was it a one time thing (if so do you remember what you did exactly?) or can trigger it  following some specific steps?
[13:37] <willcooke> seb128, I can trigger it fairly often.  I think that cups is dieing behind the scenes
[13:38] <seb128> willcooke, can you put the steps you follow and maybe the journal log on the bug?
[13:38] <willcooke> sure thing
[13:41] <seb128> thx
[13:56] <oSoMoN> willcooke, I ran the CJK test just for the fun, and found missing localizations in Simplified Chinese, otherwise good
[13:56] <oSoMoN> I'll run more tests in a language I understand now
[13:56] <willcooke> thank you very much oSoMoN!
[18:17] <willcooke> night all