[00:02] <tomreyn> oikasd: thanks, looks good. may i quote some of what you told us here on this bug report (i can replace the nickname if you like)?
[00:02] <oikasd> fine by me, you can use my nick
[00:03] <tomreyn> thanks.
[00:11] <infotek> akemlenovo: tanks!
[00:24] <DOSfan> bbl . switching computers
[00:26] <scientes> woah, ubuntu automatically figured out i was in a differn't country
[00:26] <sarnold> hey scientes :)
[00:27] <scientes> sarnold, hey
[01:08] <eelstrebor> Bashing-om, i get an error message that gpt is corrupted
[01:09] <eelstrebor> i looked at using gdisk but i get the impression that it'll mess up my installation no matter what i do
[01:10] <eelstrebor> gparted wasn't able to fix it either
[01:10] <OerHeks> fix it with a live iso, disks > repaire filesystem.
[01:10] <OerHeks> or windows disk
[01:12] <eelstrebor> i tried to do that with a gparted live disk
[01:12] <eelstrebor> live iso
[01:13] <OerHeks> make sure you booted in UEFI mode?
[01:14] <eelstrebor> yes
[01:15] <Bashing-om> eelstrebor: Show us in a pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' - maybe we can repair with 'fsck' ?
[01:15] <iamfree> Hello, I just fresh install ubuntu from ubuntu-budgie and notice that gnome is install through snap, why? things just freeze on me during update, the gnome is the system is fine... do i need to reinstall gnome?
[01:16] <iamfree> I dont like snap cuz it slow...
[01:17] <tomreyn> iamfree: which ubuntu budgie version did you install and what's the output of: snap list | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:17] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds     will answer the first question
[01:18] <tomreyn> note there is also #ubuntu-budgie
[01:19] <iamfree> @tomreyn: I mean i used ubuntu budgie before now i reinstall ubuntu gnome..
[01:25] <iamfree> https://termbin.com/2cf2
[01:26] <tomreyn> iamfree: what's the output of:   lsb_release -ds
[01:27] <iamfree> ubuntu 19.04
[01:27] <mystic22> oops
[01:27] <mystic22> i have big trouble with 19
[01:28] <iamfree> I just notice  that gnome sys mon is snap package, no wonder slow as hell LMAO
[01:28] <tomreyn> iamfree: so your main gnome desktop is not really installed via snap. what you see in "snap list" output is single applications which were installed as snaps (but should still be available via apt), as well as backward compatibility libraries for older gnome versions.
[01:29] <OerHeks> i wonder if snaps slow down your system.
[01:30] <tomreyn> iamfree: you can possibly just uninstall all snaps and purge snapd and budgie will still work fine. this is a guess, i have not tried it on budgie. i tried it on ubuntu 19.04 in a VM only, where it seemed to work fine.
[01:30] <iamfree> snap will slow down your system, but the app that install through gnome is slow to start..
[01:30] <iamfree> *will not
[01:30] <tomreyn> whihc one did you try on this installation?
[01:31] <iamfree> @tomreyn: i did not use ubuntu budgie anymore. I just fresh install ubuntu gnome.
[01:32] <tomreyn> i see.
[01:32] <tomreyn> my question still stands, though
[01:32] <cnnx> I just installed ubuntu 18.04 on my computer on a 43" 4k display as monitor.. the default drivers are nouveau I think, I have an nvidia card, if I install the nvidia meta package driver will the fonts and graphics look sharper you think or no difference?
[01:33] <iamfree> which one what? i install it on my laptop, Ubuntu 19.04
[01:34] <iamfree> i'm gonna go and tweak my gnome. bye
[01:34] <tomreyn> iamfree: you said snaps are slow to start. i'm asking which of these apps you have installed as snaps are slower to start than their apt counter parts on your 19.04 installation? gnome-calculator, gnome-characters, gnome-logs or gnome-system-monitor
[01:37] <tomreyn> cnnx: i don't know for sure but it's well possible.
[01:39] <tomreyn> cnnx: nouveau is considered to be a rather basic driver, there is a large gap of functionality between it and that of the proprietary nvidia drivers (because nvidia does not provide this information to driver developers and does not produce an open source driver themselves)
[01:40] <cnnx> ty
[01:45] <eelstrebor> Bashing-om, Error: The backup GPT table is corrupt, but the primary appears OK, so that will be used.
[01:47] <Bashing-om> eelstrebor: Humm .. "but the primary appears OK," does not make sense then that there is a issue - what command did you run to get that result ?
[01:47] <eelstrebor> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/WHh3MHQN3B/
[01:53] <Bashing-om> eelstrebor: Sorry - I have no experience with xfs. I no longer know what to advise.
[01:54] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, me neither, and seems important to mention when seeking help
[01:55] <OerHeks> what does s.m.a.r.t. say?
[02:24] <FaTaL_G> hello (anyone online nor or in the near future). I have been having a problem recently (I presume it was after an update), where my ubuntu server (acting as my home router), drops connectivity to the internet. I can ifdn/up the interface and it comes back to life. The other nic's work, so an ssh session stays alive. What can I look for in syslog to hint at a case?
[02:24] <FaTaL_G> cause
[03:11] <antimatroid> is there any way to get text documents to open as a new tab rather than a new window in gedit?
[03:11] <antimatroid> and what happened to being able to make a new text document when right clicking in a directory? that was really handy
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> antimatroid: as user/community you have the power to change things, file a bug and convert it to a wishlist?
[03:20] <OerHeks> isn't that a plugin for nautilus, nautilus-admin or such?
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> there are few nautilus plugins to edit things, but not sure creating new document is one of the features
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> there is ctrl+l to open nautilus in admin:/// mode too
[03:22] <OerHeks> if i hit the [+] button, a new tab opens
[03:22] <OerHeks> (gedit)
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> ah
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> did you try that antimatroid ?
[03:46] <antimatroid> yep you can open a new tab that way, but if you open a file from nautilus or whatever it opens in a new window rather than a new tab
[03:46] <antimatroid> you can use ctrl t for a new tab too fyi
[03:47] <antimatroid> you can drag a file to the menu part of gedit to open it in a new tab, but it's a pain
[03:47] <antimatroid> on older versions of ubuntu (I just upgraded from 14.04 everything started to stop working unsurprisingly)
[03:47] <XRS1> i just plugged in an asus USB wifi-ac adapter and im not getting a wifi icon on the upper right near the power and volume like i was expecting.   what now?
[03:47] <antimatroid> it used to open in new tabs
[03:48] <XRS1> i did lsusb and i am seeing a listing for asustek
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> antimatroid: nautilus changed a lot since 14.04..
[03:49] <antimatroid> I've noticed, I'm not sure I'm sold on the changes
[03:49] <antimatroid> I use gnome-session-flashback too
[03:50] <antimatroid> still better than osx/windows
[03:52] <antimatroid> you can't put the date in the top bar thing anymore which sucks
[03:53] <XRS1> rebooted the machine and im still not seeing anything anywhere that says wifi or looks like signal bars
[03:53] <antimatroid> pita having to move the cursor all the way up to the netherworld and click twice to get the date and back to what you were doing
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> antimatroid: lets have this channel clear for the support questions, come to #ubuntu-discuss ?
[03:53] <XRS1> so fix it
[03:58] <eelstrebor> OerHeks, smart shows all drives passed
[04:08] <XRS1> .....okay i think maybe i found the problem.    it needs those stupid broadcom wireless lan drivers but it still wont work out of the box.  you have to re-compile something to get it to work
[04:09] <XRS1> i should just return it. i dont wanna have to go through that everything i plug it in
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> XRS1: broadcom drivers are restricted
[04:28] <XRS1> and have been troublesome from me in the past
[04:29] <XRS1> i have a brain injury and need something that just works
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> XRS1: i always enable restricted extras and updates during setup, cant say i had broadcom troubles recently
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> XRS1: there's no magic red button in ubuntu that solves everything, sometimes settings and tweaks are needed, like in any Os
[04:30] <XRS1> will that work if i re-install ubuntu with the thing plugged in?   something tells me it wont and i dont have access to ethernet
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> XRS1: if somehow the broadcom driver doesnt pick up, you can still installt he driver with the offline method, on your live media in /pool
[04:32] <XRS1> i bought it because it looked just like the other 4 ASUS usb wifi thingies i've had in the past. and those were plug and play with everything starting as early as WinME
[04:34] <XRS1> lotuspsychje,  id rather just return the device.  i've tangled with that broadcom driver in the past and know im no longer capable of understanding the way people write linux tutorials
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> XRS1: if i was you, i would try a liveusb setup, enable restricted and updates and see what happens
[04:35] <XRS1> its worth a shot
[04:40] <creich> hi there. i am running a headless ubuntu server and use a luks encrypted disk as data storage for services like gitlab etc... since the data disk is still encrypted during boot time, i decrypt it manually via ssh after the first bootup. the question is: do i have to restart services using the data storage after decrytion?
[04:41] <creich> i noticed that e.g. the home folders still show old content until i relogin after the same way of decrypting them
[04:41] <creich> so, it also raises the question if i should disable those services from autostarting at all
[04:42] <creich> to prevent them looking (maybe even writing) data into the mount point of the 'not yet' decrypted data storage
[04:57] <gshah> Hey guys, I need help.
[04:58] <gshah> I "accidentally" enabled the "User Session Defaults" option in gnome-disk on my /home partition.
[04:58] <gshah> Therefore I can't manage to access my desktop environment after a reboot.
[04:58] <gshah> How can I disable that option within the tty shell?
[05:04] <gshah> Nevermind. I just mounted the partition to /home and able to access the desktop.
[05:07] <iamfree> @tomreyn: sys monitor, slow to start. when i used ubuntu budgie i install vlc snap, it was slow like hell, take 7-8 sec to start. but vlc from repo only takes about 2-3 sec to start. that's why i dont like snap or flatpak that much...
[07:57] <sam_newbie> Hello, I'm Having a issue with Ubuntu-Server installation through PXE server, I'm using kickstart file, host is CentOS server and client will be Ubuntu Server. when i reboot the client its taking IP from the DHCP pool and pass through and straight went to installation but i'm getting error right after partition screen. " Installation Setup Failed,
[07:57] <sam_newbie> you can try to run the failing item again from the menu or,  skip it or choose something else. The Failing is "Install the System"
[07:58] <sam_newbie> i apologize if i asked very basic question.. i tried google but still could not find anything ... yet
[07:58] <Aavar> I am using backups (duplicity) on my laptop, and I am having problems with restoring a backup. It is asking for a "GnuPG passphrase" and I cant remember that I have set one anywhere. Will it ask for a passphrase even if i have not used encryption? The command I am using is: duplicity restore file:///path_to_folder_contains_backups/ path_where_to_extract_it/
[07:59] <Aavar> I am just testing to be ready if I actually have a crash :)
[08:00] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie:Does this help you? https://serverfault.com/questions/715162/ubuntu-netboot-installation-crashes
[08:00] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, let me take a look.. thanks.
[08:01] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: You are welcome. Let me know if it works
[08:11] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, hard luck same error still, so it went all the way to partition. i select LVM based, then it asked me to write the configuration permenantly so i hit yes, then same error again.
[08:13] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Can you go to CTRL+ALT+F4 and point out the obvious errors?
[08:14] <sam_newbie> i don't know how to copy that from ther :S
[08:17] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, i took the snap and upload it on website do you mind if you can have a look?
[08:18] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Let me have a look at the error logs.
[08:18] <sam_newbie> can i post a link here?
[08:19] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Yes.
[08:19] <sam_newbie> https://pasteboard.co/IrIhCZ2.png
[08:19] <sam_newbie> thankyou
[08:21] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: It means that it couldn't find the live image. I will look into it.
[08:21] <sam_newbie> but i share the whole image through vsftpd server
[08:26] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Did you make changes to the preseed file? Did you make it so it connects to your ftp server? Did you specify ftp:// before the address?
[08:26] <sam_newbie> yea
[08:26] <sam_newbie> give me a sec i will upload my preseed file
[08:27] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Use pastebin to avoid flooding, though.
[08:27] <sam_newbie> ok
[08:31] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, https://pasteboard.co/IrInqJC.png
[08:31] <sam_newbie> that's how my seed file looks
[08:32] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: I will have a look and report back. Meanwhile, is your ftp server accessible anonymously (username: anonymous)? Or just your username and password?
[08:33] <sam_newbie> anonymous enable
[08:34] <sam_newbie> its definitely picking up the kickstart file from ftp then start the installation.. error is somewhere else i can't figure it out.
[08:34] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: OK. Let me look.
[08:34] <sam_newbie> i mean i can access my ftp server from windows box too as anonymous user
[08:34] <sam_newbie> alright thanks
[08:38] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Are you sure that you have set the Network setting in VBox as Bridged or NAT?
[08:38] <sam_newbie> hostonly
[08:38] <sam_newbie> allow VMS
[08:39] <sam_newbie> i mean its local installation using FTP server and image is mounted in /var/ftp/pub
[08:40] <Cooler> vlc cannot play .mp4 files
[08:40] <Cooler> ubuntu 19.04        vlc mpeg-4 aac decoder are required to play the file, but are not installed
[08:41] <Cooler> this blog suggests installing certain packages https://websiteforstudents.com/how-to-enable-ubuntu-18-04-lts-beta-to-play-videos-files/
[08:41] <Cooler> sudo apt install libdvdnav4 libdvdread4 gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly libdvd-pkg
[08:41] <Cooler> sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:41] <Cooler> the package names have bad and ugly in the name
[08:41] <Cooler> do i really have to install these?
[08:41] <Cooler> I am on ubuntu 18.04 btw not  19.04
[08:46] <Cooler> vlc also cannot play .avi files
[08:47] <OerHeks> aac .. some DRM aac files will never play, indeed
[08:47] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Is your PXE and FTP server hosted in a machine that has your VM on? Or on the separate machine?
[08:47] <OerHeks> vlc can play avi, depends what is in that container
[08:47] <OerHeks> some avi files need the DVD decoder
[08:47] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, Same machine same network,
[08:48] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html.nl
[08:51] <Cooler> OerHeks, what
[08:51] <Cooler> that was not the question
[08:53] <OerHeks> some avi files are made from dvd material
[08:53] <OerHeks> just naming the most likely solutions
[08:54] <Cooler> I was asking about the package names
[08:54] <OerHeks> those are correct, i pointed to the same information
[08:55] <Cheez> Cooler: i would probably install ffmpeg and set vlc to use that, and then the appropriate libraries for ffmpeg
[08:55] <Cooler> why are they named like that? sounds like they are broken or worse could brick my system
[08:55] <Cheez> i would also be leery of those packages
[08:55] <Cheez> i doubt they'd brick it, but they don't sound ideal do they
[08:55] <Cheez> i wouldn't want to install them
[08:56] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Can you retry installing, but in bridged mode? Does it give same error?
[08:56] <Cooler> Cheez, ffmpeg will install the correct codecs?
[08:56] <OerHeks> bad and ugly, those are plugins that should not be written that way, and are under no guarantee/support
[08:56] <OerHeks> but work
[08:56] <Cheez> Cooler: you need the right libs with it, like libaac and libavc
[08:57] <Cheez> but they are their own packages in apt
[08:57] <Cheez> not some suite of broken crap
[08:57] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, have not try any other mode.. let me give a shot
[08:57] <Cheez> that's how i would do it, but i can't say it's how you -should- do it, i don't use vlc itself on ubuntu.
[08:58] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Let me know if it worked
[08:58] <Aavar> I am using backups (duplicity) on my laptop, and I am having problems with restoring a backup. It is asking for a "GnuPG passphrase" and I cant remember that I have set one anywhere. Will it ask for a passphrase even if i have not used encryption? The command I am using is: duplicity restore file:///path_to_folder_contains_backups/ path_where_to_extract_it/
[09:00] <Cheez> Cooler: you could try installing the vlc snap and see if that includes the right stuff
[09:01] <OerHeks> vlc should have everything, except drm aac codecs and dvd
[09:01] <OerHeks> that is why it is so populair .. and dangerous
[09:01] <Cheez> and the issue Cooler appears to be having is that it does not
[09:05] <Cooler> Cheez, I am using vlc from snap
[09:05] <Cooler> H.264 high profile decoder is required to play the file, but is not installed.
[09:06] <Cooler> this is for a .mp4 file
[09:06] <Cheez> have you tried the vlc ppa / apt?
[09:06] <Cheez> ppa:videolan/stable-daily
[09:07] <Cooler> what is the recommended way to install new codecs?
[09:08] <Cooler> on Windows VLC automatically finds and downloads them for you
[09:09] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, I have not tried the bridge or NAT yet, but changed the whole seed file and tried again .. .now it got stuck here for last 4 minutes... still cursor blinks https://pasteboard.co/IrIC4R9.png
[09:10] <EoflaOE> No network activity?
[09:10] <OerHeks> !info libx264-152
[09:11] <sam_newbie> mmm weird, i didn't changed any network component...
[09:11] <OerHeks> !info libx265-146
[09:12] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, i Appreciate all your help, have to goto bed its too late here.. morning have to goto work :S and its 4:10 am...
[09:12] <sam_newbie> i will get back to you tomorrow ... with hopefully some update
[09:12] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Good night.
[09:12] <sam_newbie> thankyou again.
[09:19] <Cooler> is it just me that this keeps happening to? https://bpaste.net/raw/zpx1
[09:19] <Cooler> Cheez, I installed ffpmeg but it still gives the same error
[09:19] <Cooler> vlc gives the error
[09:20] <Cooler> same error as before
[09:21] <OerHeks> seems like you must update your bionic wit apt dist-upgrade first
[09:22] <OerHeks> !info libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0
[09:23] <OerHeks> and your paste says 1.14.4-1ubuntu1~ubuntu18.04.1
[09:29] <Cooler> OerHeks, did dist-upgrade
[09:29] <Cooler> still same error
[09:29] <Cooler>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.24 80]
[09:29] <Cooler> and so on
[09:30] <jeremy31> Cooler: try changing mirror in software & updates
[09:31] <jpe> Is it more secure to run your browser as a snap package? E.g. could it limit browser exploits from affecting the rest of the system?
[09:31] <OerHeks> this guy encountered the same.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1158477/failed-to-fetch-curl-when-trying-to-install-404-not-found on that ip
[09:32] <OerHeks> might be some uni that puts mirror offline during hollidays
[09:55] <yankovic> Hi. I try to install ubuntu using preseed method, so I have to repack iso file. And after this Startup Disk Creator can't recognize my new iso: I try to choose my iso on "Source disc image " prompt, but nothing happens. Original iso file is chosen correctly
[09:55] <yankovic> Why is it so
[10:50] <Cooler> jeremy31, nope
[10:50] <Cooler> that doesn't help
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> Cooler: are you behind router or firewall?
[10:52] <OerHeks> changing mirror does not help?
[10:52] <OerHeks> interesting..
[10:52] <Cooler> lotuspsychje, university firewall
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> Cooler: edu's can block alot of things..
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> Cooler: try a sudo apt update yet aswell?
[11:04] <B|ack0p> hi
[11:04] <ayekat> then again, if they get a 404, they're able to communicate with the server, so a firewall shouldn't usually be an issue
[11:04] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje are you there?
[11:07] <JimBuntu> ayekat, it's showing 404 because the file literally doesn't exist at that archive, just checked.
[11:08] <OerHeks> that is what i said, packages not up2date
[11:09] <OerHeks> c/+ lists
[11:09] <ayekat> JimBuntu: yes, so a (user-side) firewall shouldn't be an issue
[11:09] <OerHeks> so he has to study at the uni, not update
[11:11] <ejr> hi. why am i not permissted to run echo unmute > /proc/acpi/ibm/volume even after i did sudo -i to get root?
[11:11] <ayekat> ejr: what's the file permissions? what's the error message?
[11:12] <willksm> B|ack0p, Hi, do you have a question?
[11:12] <ejr> -bash: echo: write error: Operation not permitted
[11:13] <ejr> permissions ar e0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[11:13] <OerHeks> try echo "unmute" ..
[11:13] <ayekat> the quotes there won't change anything
[11:13] <Habbie> 'Operation not permitted' is not the same as 'Permission denied'
[11:14] <Habbie> i get the same error here
[11:14] <Habbie> ejr, do you have any docs that suggest that this should work?
[11:14] <ayekat> yeah, on the filesystem level, the write is permitted - but the backing device may simply not support/allow writing a value there
[11:14] <Habbie> that
[11:15] <Habbie> the 'beep' file in that dir is writable, for example
[11:15] <Habbie> (although i don't know what that does)
[11:16] <ejr> well, i used to be able to edit it to unmute in debian/devuan
[11:17] <JimBuntu> ejr, "You can use the volume_capabilities parameter to tell the driver
[11:17] <JimBuntu> whether your thinkpad has volume control or mute-only control" You need volume control to be enabled for that unmute command to work.
[11:18] <JimBuntu> ejr, https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.txt    has some details.
[11:18] <ejr> ok, i will look into that, thanks!
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: yes, whats up?
[11:22] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje hi. i posted my experiences on the bug report about the issue yesterday. i tried live USB  16.04 and 19.04 , live usb is fine but then i installed 19.04 but same thing happened.
[11:22] <B|ack0p> then i updated , and corruption gone. but graphic issue is continuing
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: so the only thing working is 16.04 now?
[11:23] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje it is hard to say. live usb working fine without corruption but when i install issues happens.
[11:24] <B|ack0p> and there was no transparent effects either so graphics driver issue exists
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: but you didnt install 16.04, just live?
[11:24] <B|ack0p> yes just live
[11:24] <B|ack0p> is there any option to choose graphics in ubuntu?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: how about you try unity desktop on your 19.04 or 18.04 as a test?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: drivers should auto load in ubuntu
[11:25] <B|ack0p> then i need to install 16.04 to try unity
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: no, you can install unity from 18.04 too
[11:26] <B|ack0p> 19.04 is installed now
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop disco | B|ack0p
[11:27] <B|ack0p> ok
[11:28] <OerHeks> transparancy issues with ATI x1300 ???
[11:28] <B|ack0p> OerHeks yes
[11:28] <B|ack0p> also screen corruption
[11:28] <OerHeks> oh but that card is so ancient, not supported for effects AFAIK
[11:29] <OerHeks> from ATI 5xxxx and up it is oke
[11:29] <B|ack0p> so should i throw it?
[11:29] <B|ack0p> not so ancient. it is 2006 made
[11:30] <B|ack0p> OerHeks https://launchpad.net/~muerdogan
[11:30] <B|ack0p> ops sorry
[11:30] <B|ack0p> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe/+bug/1839353
[11:31] <OerHeks> yes, one can use it as coaster or underlayment to make a table steady
[11:31] <OerHeks> sorry to tell ya
[11:31] <OerHeks> !ati
[11:32] <B|ack0p> if i use it with old distro they are not supported aymore..
[11:32] <B|ack0p> so i should use it offline without internet
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: try unity..
[11:33] <B|ack0p> OerHeks i upgraded it to 64bit cpu to install ubuntu 64bit :/
[11:33] <B|ack0p> costed me money :p
[11:33] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje i will
[11:33] <B|ack0p> try
[12:03] <daniel_6644> Hey Guys, I am having trouble with SSH. I have just disable password authenticatoin and now im locked out. I have the public key from the server but when I login I get the error "Permission denied (publickey)". Any Ideas?
[12:06] <SwedeMike> daniel_6644: did you verify that the public key verification worked before you disabled password auth?
[12:06] <daniel_6644> I thought I did
[12:06] <pragmaticenigma> daniel_6644: What you need to access the remote server is your local private key, and have uploaded your local public key to the remote server
[12:06] <daniel_6644> is there any way around this or am I screwed
[12:07] <pragmaticenigma> daniel_6644: you are screwed
[12:07] <daniel_6644> ok
[12:07] <knstn>  what's the difference in "apt upgrade" & "apt-get upgrade"?
[12:07] <pragmaticenigma> daniel_6644: Always read documentation twice, top to bottom, especially when it comes to cryptography and authentication stuff
[12:07] <daniel_6644> ok
[12:08] <pragmaticenigma> knstn: presently there is no difference, apt is friendly version of apt-get
[12:08] <OerHeks> there are a few advantages in apt, still apt-get works fine
[12:09] <OerHeks> for a good start; apt gives a progress bar.
[12:09] <OerHeks> https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/
[12:10] <knstn> i noticed that, but i also noticed, that with "apt upgrade" it fetches the updates from that gui pop-up, while with "apt-get" it didn't. differenct cache?
[12:14] <knstn> i thought low-level was dpkg, not apt-get. Anyway, things seem to have changed.
[12:16] <ikanobori> apt is just a prettier apt-get really nothing much changed between them but a more user friendly and commands.
[12:17] <ikanobori> And a more unified approach (apt-get vs apt-cache, etc).
[12:17] <ikanobori> Some people say use 'apt' interactively and 'apt-get' in script but eh.
[12:19] <pragmaticenigma> knstn: they use the same cache... apt-get will not fetch software that has version changes that aren't related to security enhancements
[12:41] <knstn> Ah, that was the case. Security updates. Only with "apt" was able to install them.
[12:45] <pragmaticenigma> knstn: No, not exactly... there's a lot more to it, but to put it simply, "apt upgrade" is what you should generally use.
[12:46] <pragmaticenigma> knstn: for more information look at "man apt" and "man apt-get" to see the differences and to see all the different options you can pass to application for different behaviors and package selection
[12:46] <b1ack0p> lotuspsychje:  i installed unity on 19.04 and no screen corruption both on login and desktop but no transparent effect also. terminal background is white instead of purple.
[12:46] <b1ack0p> screen continues flickering
[12:47] <b1ack0p> flickering issue is happening when i attach to external monitor.
[12:47] <b1ack0p> with DVI port
[13:08] <thiras> hello. Fresh install ubuntu. When I try to `apt install redis-server` it hangs at the settings section. The service doesn't start install fails. There is no systemd service file after installation
[13:09] <thiras> any idea what that could be?
[13:09] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: For help with Ubuntu server, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:09] <thiras> thanks pragmaticenigma
[13:14] <chonto_> ahoy
[13:26] <zfoo> using ubuntu 19.04 and running 'unshare -n' returns 'operation not permitted'
[13:26] <Sven_vB> Network Manager reports eth3 as successfully connected to the ethernet connection I just configured with static IPv4, the network card LEDs are green (perma) and orange (blinking slowly), does this indicate the ethernet cable is working? because nmap can't find other computers.
[13:26] <zfoo> I can add the map-root-user option but this then screws up untar operations
[13:27] <zfoo> making it setuid 'chmod u+x $(which unshare)' solves my issue, but is this a good/safe idea?
[13:29] <zfoo> Sven_vB, no just that the PHYs can talk, is the static IP within the same subnet as the network?
[13:29] <chonto_> test
[13:30] <Sven_vB> zfoo, it should. I copied the config from another host on the target network and just increased the last IP address segment.
[13:31] <Sven_vB> well the other host connects via WLAN, so I better double check
[13:32] <Sven_vB> yes WLAN and ethernet have the same subnet
[13:33] <zfoo> are you sure the static IP is unique on the network?
[13:33] <Casper26> 0
[13:33] <Sven_vB> zfoo, it should. I'll check
[13:34] <Sven_vB> I'm suspecting the cable mostly because it's custom wired to use just 4 wires (green/orange = 1,2,3,6)
[13:35] <Sven_vB> yes the IP is unique.
[13:38] <zfoo> do you have another cable to test
[13:38] <Sven_vB> not to the target network but I can connect to another LAN to see if the network card is healthy.
[13:39] <zfoo> might be worth trying to narrow down the issue
[13:40] <chonto> test
[13:41] <JimBuntu> we see you chonto. This channel is for volunteer Ubuntu support. Please conduct tests elsewhere.
[13:41] <chonto> apologies
[13:43] <afidegnum> hello, what's the best tool for sound mixing similar to virtualDJ in ubuntu?
[13:44] <leftyfb> !ot | afidegnum
[13:50] <OerHeks> mixxx is an option, https://www.mixxx.org/ https://launchpad.net/~mixxx/+archive/ubuntu/mixxx
[13:51] <Sven_vB> solved, it was an electrical problem on one of the wires.
[13:51] <Sven_vB> zfoo, thanks for your help :)
[13:53] <chonto> i'm really very new to ubuntu and irc... are there are good channels for general discussion and off-topic chats that someone could recommend?
[13:53] <zfoo> Sven_vB, you are welcome
[13:54] <afidegnum> i did
[13:55] <JimBuntu> chonto, /msg alis list $topic               where $topic is the topic you want to find channels for. Also... #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:55] <chonto> thanks much
[13:56] <zfoo> chonto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[13:56] <chonto> i'll try off topic first
[14:01] <OerHeks> carefull!!!! 18.04.3 LTS Is Out
[14:03] <OerHeks> still 1.9 gb  http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/
[14:33] <oderus> hi. i have compiled 2 programs that I want to use, and they do work but there is no install candidate, so i cannot make install. where should i put these programs in the filesystem so that they are installed?
[14:36] <javaJake> oderus: most software come with documentation on how to install. I would follow that. If you can't find that, and if the program you made only has a single binary, then installation is fairly easy: if you want it to be available for just your user, I personally recommend adding 'export PATH="${PATH}:${HOME}/bin"' to your .bashrc file and making a ~/bin folder and placing the binary there; otherwise, place it
[14:36] <javaJake> in your /usr/local/bin.
[14:37] <OerHeks> And there is /opt/  if you have really no clue
[14:38] <tarzeau> oderus: what is your programs called?
[14:38] <oderus> tarzeau: etherterm, and netrunner
[14:38] <javaJake> oderus: I also personally dislike using 'make install' on any system with a package manager because 'make install' will litter your system with files in places that the package manager won't expect, causing conflicts down the road, especially during upgrades. Also, there's usually no easy way to track which files got installed, where, and how to remove or upgrade them manually without careful, manual visual
[14:38] <javaJake> inspection. If you know what you're doing, then you already knew this, though. :)
[14:39] <OerHeks> make uninstall usually takes care of that..
[14:39] <oderus> javaJake: yes true. these programs are both "modular" so you can put them and run them from anywhere, but they are more than just the binary
[14:39] <tarzeau> oderus: which is hardly ever setup
[14:39] <javaJake> OerHeks: in my experience 'make uninstall' is either incomplete or missing.
[14:40] <javaJake> OerHeks: though I have had good luck there once in a while.
[14:40] <OerHeks> depends on the source, ofcourse, we don't know
[14:42] <oderus> is my home directory safe to place a program in?
[14:43] <tarzeau> oderus: absolutely
[14:44] <oderus> tarzeau: thank you
[15:04] <FreezeS> Hi guys! I'm trying to install 19.04 desktop amd64 as a KVM guest and after the initial menu, the points keep moving but nothing happens. If I click on Del, I get these errors: https://imgur.com/a/89uAK9w
[15:05] <FreezeS> the host is 18.04 installed with software raid (19.04 doesn't have alternate installer and could not create 2 efi partitions)
[15:07] <madleb> wsup
[15:12] <EoflaOE> FreezeS: Have you verified the ISO health?
[15:12] <EoflaOE> !md5sum
[15:13] <FreezeS> EoflaOE: yes, I have. I just tried with 19.04 server and get the same errors
[15:13] <FreezeS> this is the beginning: https://imgur.com/a/qSweQou
[15:13] <FreezeS> 18.04 worked without a problem
[15:14] <FreezeS> ALT+CTRL+F2...3...etc do not work, how can I get more info?
[15:16] <EoflaOE> FreezeS: And the results were different? Or the same as one provided?
[15:16] <FreezeS> 19.04, both desktop and server are the same
[15:19] <FreezeS> how can I start it in a more verbose mode?
[15:20] <Exagone313> Hi, I'd like to generate an xorg.conf file from current config to use it on another OS, and so I understand what is different there also (probably getting different graphical driver settings by default).  How can I do that?  Thanks or your help.
[15:25] <EoflaOE> FreezeS: Reboot and when it reaches the human and keyboard icons, press the arrow key, and it should pop up the language list. Select yours, open and close the Advanced options, and remove "quiet" and "splash."
[15:27] <FreezeS> EoflaOE: getting this now: https://imgur.com/a/5al9guz
[15:29] <shurwitz> Hello, is this right channel to ask a question about an issue using subiquity
[15:30] <EoflaOE> FreezeS: Is it on a VM or on the PC?
[15:31] <FreezeS> it's on a vm (KVM)
[15:31] <unimatrix9> hello all
[15:32] <unimatrix9> my snap is using the wrong version of python , can i change that somehow ?
[15:32] <unimatrix9> the snap installed program that is
[15:33] <ioria> FreezeS, can you try with the disco mini.iso  ?  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/disco/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[15:35] <zeroes> How package manager know each package's component (main, contrib, non-free)?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> zeroes, it uses /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:41] <FreezeS> ioria: mini.iso installs without issues
[15:41] <ioria> FreezeS, i see
[15:42] <magicker> anyone help me with a kernal /boot space issue? (no matter what I purge apt constantly  regenerate a while bunch of initrd.img- files every time any install / upgrade etc its attempted)
[15:42] <zeroes> BluesKaj: the sources.list just have a list of uris and their components. e.g. "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main"
[15:43] <zeroes> BluesKaj: i would like to know how components are used (e.g. buster and main)
[15:44] <BluesKaj> !repository | zeroes
[15:47] <shurwitz> I have a situation wihere the live-server installation fails to recognize my Samsung NVME drive.  Can anyone help with this
[15:54] <zeroes> I have figured it out ^^. I suppose package manager use components like this: uri/dists/bionic/{component1,component2} to retrieve packages.
[16:05] <magicker> yes yes yes :  update-initramfs -d -k 4.2.0-15-generic is the magic command
[16:42] <matu> hi
[16:43] <matu> what is the best nodejs IDE available on ubuntu that works out of the box please?
[16:43] <matu> i want something that is available from the official repositories
[16:43] <matu> please
[16:44] <matu> atom is not available from the repo and was already arghing about spellchck that was not working during the first launch
[16:44] <matu> arging
[16:44] <matu> arguing
[16:45] <JimBuntu> matu, this is the wrong channel to ask for opinions like that, please try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[16:48] <matu> ok
[16:48] <matu> thx
[16:56] <parak0vsky> how to make ubuntu shortcuts to work in any keyboard layout?
[16:56] <parak0vsky> gnome shortcuts
[17:01] <kinghat> is there a command for system info like the system info gooey?
[17:02] <kinghat> i guess there is neofetch but is there something already installed?
[17:03] <zfoo> kinghat, there are multiple commands you could use, depends on what you're looking for: ps, top, htop, df
[17:04] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, i changed NIC to Bridge or NAT instead of hostonly but no luck.. Can someone please help me whats going on? https://pasteboard.co/IrLJnUD.png
[17:04] <sam_newbie> i'm trying to install ubuntu from my PXE server
[17:05] <kinghat> zfoo: like general system info kernel, cpu, etc info
[17:09] <hyperqbe> hello
[17:10] <hyperqbe> I managed to break my Ubuntu server and now I'm not able to connect to mssql. service status shows that server is up and running but any attempt to login via sqlcmd or remotely is rejected :(
[17:12] <NorthwestVegan> hyper, are you talking about mysql?
[17:13] <hyperqbe> yes
[17:13] <NorthwestVegan> can you do sudo mysql -u root
[17:14] <hyperqbe> it's mssql, not mysql
[17:14] <NorthwestVegan> okay i have no clue then
[17:17] <hyperqbe> I get this:
[17:17] <hyperqbe> Sqlcmd: Error: Microsoft ODBC Driver 17 for SQL Server : Login timeout expired.
[17:17] <hyperqbe> I enabled firewall earlier today
[17:17] <hyperqbe> but they disabled it
[17:18] <NorthwestVegan> hyper, why dont you try an nmap -p <whatever>
[17:18] <NorthwestVegan> see if its actually open
[17:22] <hyperqbe> hyperqbe@slaro:/opt/mssql/bin$ nmap localhost -p 1433
[17:22] <hyperqbe> onds
[17:23] <NorthwestVegan> so is the port open or closed?
[17:25] <hyperqbe> looks closed, obviously
[17:25] <NorthwestVegan> well, then i would say thats your problem
[17:25] <hyperqbe> but ufw is disabled
[17:25] <NorthwestVegan> you can do ss -ltp also
[17:25] <NorthwestVegan> see if the sql service is listening on that port
[17:27] <hyperqbe> LISTEN       0             128                        192.168.1.141:ms-sql-s                         0.0.0.0:*
[17:27] <hyperqbe> only get this for ms-sql-s
[17:27] <NorthwestVegan> well, it looks like it is in fact listening then
[17:27] <NorthwestVegan> did nmap actually say STATE closed?
[17:28] <hyperqbe> yes
[17:28] <hyperqbe> PORT     STATE  SERVICE
[17:28] <hyperqbe> that's when I used command "nmap localhost -p 1433"
[17:29] <NorthwestVegan> try nmap -p 1433 192.168.1.141
[17:29] <hyperqbe> when I used the actual IP of server "nmap 192.168.1.141 -p 1433" is said open
[17:29] <hyperqbe> PORT     STATE SERVICE
[17:29] <NorthwestVegan> okay, then use the actual IP when you try to connect to it with the sql client
[17:30] <hyperqbe> also failed
[17:30] <hyperqbe> hyperqbe@slaro:/opt/mssql/bin$ sqlcmd -S 192.168.1.141
[17:31] <NorthwestVegan> hmm, well i could only guess its something misconfigured with your sql service then
[17:51] <EoflaOE> sam_newbie: Sorry for late response, but can you ping us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[17:52] <hyperqbe> yes
[17:52] <hyperqbe> ahh, it was not to me :D
[18:02] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, no i can't if you remember i only enable "hostonly" adapter i have no clue where this us.archive.ubuntu.com coming from... because i mention kickstart file in pxe configuration so it should look at that file.. and i don't have any line regarding to goto that mirror..
[18:03] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, no problem... i'm trying to figure out since last night where could be the issue..
[18:03] <sam_newbie> i changed kickstart file atleast 6-7 times with new settings.
[18:04] <sam_newbie> i made sure my pxe configuration file pointing to the right boot images and ks file
[18:04] <sam_newbie> i check my vsftpd server to makesure anonymous is enable. selinux disabled and firewalld too.
[18:06] <sam_newbie> i can access my ftp server from my windows box on same path ftp://ip/pub/ubuntu
[18:06] <sam_newbie> i have no clue where i'm lost.
[18:06] <sam_newbie> i restart all services after each changed.
[18:06] <sam_newbie> which is tftp dhcpd vsftpd
[18:07] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, brb...
[18:30] <hyperqbe> is there any way to check what package version I had prior before I used apt-get upgrade?
[18:31] <Adriuhn> hyperqbe: apt list should work
[18:31] <Adriuhn> hyperqbe: But it will list ALL packages, there might be a better way for checking specific packages
[18:32] <Adriuhn> hyperqbe: Actually, you can do 'apt list [package]', so for example 'apt list nano'
[18:32] <sarnold> /var/log/dpkg.log perhaps?
[18:33] <Adriuhn> sarnold: Hey sarnold, cool to see you here. I still haven't fixed my stupid crontab tmux script thing, I was just about to start tinkering with it again :D
[18:33] <hyperqbe> apt list -a lists all available in repo
[18:33] <sarnold> Adriuhn: hey :) still no luck? ugh
[18:34] <Adriuhn> sarnold: I did not get that much further where we ended yesterday, just got back from work
[18:35] <sarnold> Adriuhn: aha, cool; I was afraid you'd spent hours fighting it and going in circles..
[18:36] <Adriuhn> sarnold: What I ended up trying instead of having a script that runs the tmux command, I tried to run it directly from the crontab, I'm not sure it that will work at all though
[18:36] <Adriuhn> sarnold: This is my current string: @reboot sleep 120; cd /root/testserver;  tmux new -s server './start.sh'
[18:38] <sarnold> Adriuhn: and ls -l /root/testserver/start.sh  shows executable, right?
[18:39] <hyperqbe> sarnold got it from /var/log/dpkg.log
[18:39] <sarnold> good good
[18:39] <Adriuhn> sarnold: It returns this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 78 Jul 31 17:32 /root/testserver/start.sh
[18:40] <sarnold> Adriuhn: alright, looks good. is the tmux session created? is anything running?
[18:41] <Adriuhn> sarnold: I just remember that I didn't test the new cron command yesterday before i went to bed, and I saw that it does not work lmao
[18:42] <Adriuhn> sarnold: I changed it to @reboot sleep 30 && cd /root/testserver && tmux new -s server ./start.sh
[18:42] <Adriuhn> which works in the terminal, so i'll reboot and try now :)
[18:45] <Adriuhn> sarnold: reboot completed and it did not run with that crontab command either :(
[18:46] <sarnold> Adriuhn: alright.. try editing /root/testserver/start.sh and add something like date >> /tmp/server_started immediately after your #!/bin/sh line
[18:48] <Adriuhn> sarnold: Anything I should do before just rebooting and checking if it executes?
[18:49] <sarnold> Adriuhn: you *could* try changing the 'sleep 30' to 'sleep 1', and change @reboot to * * * * *  to execute it every minute.. the risk of course is once you get it *working* then you've got to do something to stop it ASAP lest you wind up with a few of them running at once :)
[18:50] <Adriuhn> sarnold: I had thought of doing that, and thinking about it for a little longer I know it can't hurt since tmux will just reply that the session already exists so it wont break anything :D
[18:51] <sarnold> oh nice
[18:52] <hyperqbe> downgrade didn't work
[18:57] <Adriuhn> sarnold: No success :( this is how things are currently looking: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zttjkhSDV4/
[18:57] <sarnold> Adriuhn: is there anything in /tmp/server_started ?
[18:58] <Adriuhn> sarnold: nope, dir doesnt exist
[19:00] <sarnold> Adriuhn: /tmp ??
[19:00] <Adriuhn> sarnold: ls in /tmp/ returns this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/brh4JHWf5V/
[19:02] <sarnold> Adriuhn: ahh okay. funny not what I expected. alright, try this instead: * * * * * cd /root/testserver && tmux new -s server "date >> /tmp/server_started"
[19:04] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, sorry i have to reboot!
[19:04] <Adriuhn> sarnold: The date thing, is that supposed to create a log of some sorts? That's what I'm assuming you'er trying to do here
[19:05] <sarnold> Adriuhn: yeah -- a marker of some sort that we can read more easily than cron, heh
[19:06] <sarnold> Adriuhn: maybe cron's logging all the errors to /var/spool/mail/root .. maybe not. it's hard to know with cron :(
[19:06] <Adriuhn> sarnold: Actually, do you know of a good alternative of what im trying to do or would sticking with cron be best practice?
[19:07] <sarnold> Adriuhn: well, it's tough to say. systemd timer and service files are kind of a pain to get set up; it's annoying to use several files for a task that takes one line in cron..
[19:07] <Adriuhn> sarnold: script didn't run by the way, and /tmp/ looks the same
[19:08] <sarnold> Adriuhn: and I think if you want to *see* this server console at some point, then running it in tmux via cron is the right approach; if you don't care about re-attaching to it, then a systemd unit file would probably be better..
[19:08] <sarnold> Adriuhn: (sorry, I forgot, you're running it once via @reboot, no need for the timer file :)
[19:09] <sarnold> Adriuhn: hmm. which cron file are you editing? how are you editing it?
[19:09] <Adriuhn> sarnold: crontab -e, opens in nano
[19:09] <Adriuhn> and I'm doing that as root user
[19:09] <sarnold> alright, cool
[19:10] <Adriuhn> and based on that info, cron still definitely feels like the right path, if it worked how i expected it to it would've been perfect :D
[20:21] <Megagolgoth> hi
[20:21] <Megagolgoth> I'm looking for v4l2sink from the package gstreamer good plugin
[20:35] <leftyfb> Megagolgoth: v4l2sink is not a filename in any of the official ubuntu packages.
[20:36] <JimBuntu> correct leftyfb , but the lib should be provided from the gstreamer-1.0 good plugins
[20:38] <Megagolgoth> but it was
[20:44] <Megagolgoth> normally it's vaialable on gst plugin good : https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-good/html/gst-plugins-good-plugins-v4l2sink.html
[20:44] <Habbie> that .html is in a debian buster package, just as a datapoint
[20:44] <Habbie> but i'm not sure where the plugin is
[21:30] <sam_newbie> EoflaOE, sorry idk why i'm getting disconnection from IRC
[21:30] <sarnold> Thu 08 21:20:52 -!- sam_newbie [~alone@73.110.42.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[21:30] <sarnold> Thu 08 21:29:32 -!- sam_newbie [~alone@75-149-215-149-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ubuntu
[21:30] <sarnold> you came back with a different IP address
[21:31] <sarnold> perhaps your ISP forcibly removes your IP address periodically
[21:32] <lain_r> Hi! I've connected a usb cellular modem ZTE MF823 to an ubuntu 18/bionic box. PPP connection gets up, but then nothing happens: link stays in DOWN mode, the computer doesn't get an IP address (dhclient doesn't even get started) and then the connection times out and gets dropped
[21:33] <lain_r> when I try to run (# dhclient ppp0) it says "unsupported device type 512"
[21:33] <sexy1233>  quick question -- if i wanted to dual boot linux and win10 together, would it be better to have separate drives for each? i want to be able to play games on windows and do coding stuff on linux
[21:37] <Habbie> sexy1233, there's no reason to have separate drives, as far as i know
[21:38] <sexy1233> Habbie well i read online on multiple forums that win10 has the tendency to mess up linux and corrupt it.
[21:38] <sarnold> back when I dualbooted I definitely did two drives and yanked out whichever drive I wasn't booting :)
[21:39] <Habbie> sexy1233, that never happened to me with any windows version, but i do see the occasional report of that..
[21:39] <Habbie> sarnold, back when i dualbooted linux and BSDI i had to do that because the scsi bios would crash on reading the BSDI partition table
[21:39] <Habbie> sarnold, other than that, i've never had any trouble
[21:40] <sarnold> I *think* this bug report suggests that two drives in one machine at once may actually be *worse* than both on one hard drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1396379
[21:40] <sarnold> Habbie: bsdi bsdi? or bsd, i ? :)
[21:40] <Habbie> sarnold, bsdi bsd/os the closed source stuff
[21:40] <sarnold> oh you said it twice, actual bsdi :)
[21:40] <sarnold> neat :D
[21:40] <Habbie> sarnold, for which X was commercially licensed so i applied my msdos game cracking skills, that's where i learned to gdb :>
[21:40] <sexy1233> another question, would there be any negative effect of running linux on an ssd
[21:41] <sexy1233> i'm planning on buying an ssd just for linux
[21:41] <Habbie> sexy1233, it will be very fast
[21:41] <sexy1233> ok sounds great
[21:42] <sarnold> Habbie: oh! that would indeed be a great way to get good at gdb fast :)
[21:42] <sexy1233> sarnold Hey, you mentioned you physically unplugged the drives that you weren't using? Should I do that on a dekstop or just leave both plugged in at all times?
[21:43] <sarnold> sexy1233: it's probably a bad idea to do that to the drive connectors
[21:43] <mystic> will ubuntu 18 still be stable once it adopts some of 19's system stuff?  19 not good for me
[21:43] <sarnold> sexy1233: i'm sure they're meant to be plugged and unplugged one hundred times, not ten thousand times :) heh
[21:46] <mystic> hmm
[21:46] <sam_newbie> sarnold, i m using connection in library, probably they do have some policy.
[21:46] <sarnold> sam_newbie: aha that seems likely indeed
[21:47] <sexy1233> hey if i absolutely knew nothing about programming/coding/etc how would i go about getting into sysadmin/pentesting?
[21:54] <sarnold> sexy1233: the times they are a changing. the way I learned was reading HOWTOs and linux adminstrator guides and so on, but those may not be very useful for a world of kubernetes, istio, docker, containerd, libvirt, xen, openstack, etc etc
[21:55] <sam_newbie> later guys.
[22:33] <eps_del> good afternoon
[22:34] <eps_del> I'm wondering if anyone has had issues with the touchscreen capabilities
[22:34] <eps_del> I was scrolling down using my touchscreen to read
[22:35] <eps_del> and outta nowhere it stopped working
[22:35] <eps_del> everything else works great
[22:35] <eps_del> I have 19.04, dell inspiron 13
[22:35] <eps_del> 2-in-1
[22:37] <eps_del> it looks like it restarted...
[22:37] <eps_del> works again now
[22:38] <eps_del> anyone had any experience with issues related to touchscreen? any pointers/websites that talk about it and how to fix linux related issues with touchscreen?
[22:38] <eps_del> thanks
[23:00] <mystic> how to cenrter my taskbar icons in ubuntu 19.04?  they are going from top down at the moment, and the top icon is obscured by the top bar
[23:03] <mystic> anyone ?
[23:06] <parsnip> someone knows of a cli tools that has like user defined man pages for their one-offs, etc?
[23:06] <parsnip> can't remember where i saw it
[23:10] <parsnip> hmm, maybe it was sman
[23:10] <mystic> How to center my taskbar icons in Ubuntu 19.04?  They are going from top down at the moment, and the top icon is obscured by the top bar.
[23:11] <FaTaL_G> anyone have any suggestions on what to look at next to discover this syslogerror:  " brcmfmac 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for brcm/brcmfmac4366c-pcie.clm_blob failed with error -2"
[23:11] <FaTaL_G> it worked fine on 16.04
[23:12] <FaTaL_G> I updated to 18.04, and now it doent work ..... the same way..... I dont use NetworkManager, but I noticed that network-manager seems to be able to use it
[23:16] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: brcm is a Broadcom WIKI driver ? Then see: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1052403/how-can-i-fix-broadcom-driver-wifi-with-4-15-0-xx-kernel-on-ubuntu-16-04 .
[23:16] <Bashing-om> WIFI * See where My Mind is at :P
[23:25] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: That file doesn't even exist in upstream linux-firmware
[23:50] <OrcD3vil> having a little issue installed 19.04 nvidia 970 when it tries to boot blank black screen.  ctrl alt f2 doesn't work.  booted live cd edited /etc/default/grub trying to sudo update-grub2 getting error
[23:51] <OrcD3vil> mounted the partition says /usr/sbin/grub-probe error failed to get canonical path of '/cow'
[23:54] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: From the install's grub boot menu - can you not boot up from a "recovery" console ? And what has grub got to do with a nvidia graphic's driver ?
[23:55] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, all tutorials i can find say to add nomodeset to grub
[23:55] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: That too is one way .. booting in recovery sets "nomodeset" :)
[23:56] <OrcD3vil> when i restart the PC it goes past BIOS POST to blank black screen
[23:58] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: See if this helps - soon as the bios splash posts - spam the escape key ( EFI system ) . Do you now get the grub boot menu ?
[23:59] <OrcD3vil> spamming Esc does nothing