[00:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf5aa41b0fb58: Remove uneended colon] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf5aa41b0fb58
[00:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Lubuntu 18.04.3] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102#1851
[00:21] <wxl> @lynorian: you doing surgery?
[00:21] <tsimonq2> wxl: Menu edited on Phab, take a look.
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Technically people should be "testing" 19.10. :P
[00:22] <wxl> well it should be in testing and development
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Go for it.
[00:23] <wxl> done
[00:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: Please send emails, teward broke my email in a migration and I'd rather not use my stupid Gmail one. :P
[00:25] <wxl> darnit thomas
[00:28] <wxl> i'm going to trim some of this but include a bit of it
[00:29] <tsimonq2> Sounds good.
[00:30] <wxl> uh can you change your template so that the "file a bug" points at our wiki on the subjecT?
[00:30] <wxl> afaik searching for tags on launchpad isn't super easy
[00:33] <wxl> email out
[00:40] <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you think you could get the github auth in notes at least?
[00:42] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yeah, after I'm done typing out what I want to type out in this one. ;)
 wxl ok that was funny
[04:46] <wxl[m]> @lynorian I try. I still think my commit message with a Harry Potter reference was the height of my comedy career 🤡
 Wat? XD
[05:14] <wxl[m]> https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAPACKAGINGa77d01f89a3a21bdcb3d5abb43c2aaf00ec8050d
[05:15] <wxl[m]> Man if only lugito showed commit messages
[05:16] <wxl[m]> Tooted but the link is wrong https://soc.ialis.me/@wxl/100796355250028766
[05:18] <wxl[m]> One of many references to the Wizarding world https://soc.ialis.me/@wxl/101818854968995291
[06:28] <guiverc> What do you consider a minimum disk allocation?   help.ubuntu.com says 5gb for Lubuntu/Xubuntu (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements)  - please with what you feel should be minimum
[06:28] <guiverc> s/please with/please reply with/ ^
[06:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3bbf111f1a85: Add Presentation screen chaning] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3bbf111f1a85
[06:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdb85887c3e9e: Add synchronize presentation checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdb85887c3e9e
[06:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL46645df7d420: Add Ignore paper color checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL46645df7d420
[07:51] <wxl[m]> @freenode_guiverc:matrix.org: seems about right
[10:31] <guiverc> fyi:  Okay updated aforementioned site, minimal change to 18.04 LTS (slightly more vague) but "with the newer LXQt desktop the Lubuntu team stopped providing minimum specifications so whilst it's still light, older hardware is no longer the primary focus of Lubuntu."  (based on 18.10 release notes)
[13:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#1852
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl re: T95 we do have /usr/share/Lubuntu in XDG_DATA_DIRS. i reali …], worked!!!! /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[14:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T95: Better Menu Icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T95#1853
[14:33] <wxl[m]> Hooray! 
 please test
[14:35] <wxl[m]> Will do
 wxl: and please your comments on how to proceed in https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48 I don't have ssh acces now but at noon/night I will have and have time to do it.
[14:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] nm-tray icons: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48
[14:53] <wxl[m]> Basically do it like normal except don't use quilt (unless you need to drop patches) 
 what do you mean with like normal?
 clone it from github and upload where?
 or make a new ppa?
[15:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#1855
[16:04] <wxl[m]> Just grab one huge patch from the last release to the new one
[16:04] <wxl[m]> Errr wait no that's not right
[16:04] <wxl[m]> When you uscan it should get the new release
[16:05] <wxl[m]> Then it's just a matter of checking to see if patches need to be removed and editing the changelog
 so only grab all the patches since release 0.4.1 and apply them?
[16:13] <wxl[m]> Yeah that's what I meant
 wxl: what is the simplest way to download all that (0.4.1 source and all the patches to 0.4.3)
 wxl[m] @HMollerCl I have some notes that Simon gave me that I will share. I am at work right now so I don't have them handy. Tl;Dr clone the phab repo.  bump the version in the changelog first then uscan will pull in that version. I can get you more later.
[17:00] <wxl[m]> `git diff hash hash2 > /some/patch`
[17:00] <wxl[m]> Remember Dan we don't have a new release
 I thought there was a new GitHub release?
 Maybe I am confusing packages.
 If the watchfile points at GitHub it will pull in the version you specify in the changelog.
 wxl: https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/co3qnb/noob_how_to_regularly_update_lubuntu_in_ubuntu_im/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
 @wxl[m]> `git diff hash hash2  [<wxl[m]> `git diff hash hash2 > /some/patch`], but that would generate a big patch. Is that what we want? Or to have all the patches individually?
[17:53] <wxl> @HMollerCl don't use it in quilt. just apply it to the source.
 botomm line, generate the patch and then upload to debian/pacthes right?
[17:56] <wxl> i guess i'm not 100% sure what the protocol is here but here's my thinking:
[17:56] <wxl>  * if we do this all the "normal" way we've got either a lot of patches or one enormous patch
[17:57] <wxl> hm
[17:57] <wxl> thinking out loud sometimes helps
[17:57] <wxl> i think we should just do one big patch
[17:58] <wxl> @tsimonq2: tell me i'm wrong here
 You shouldn't need a patch.
[17:59] <wxl> but without a new release we will
 New orig tar
 What version is in phab?
[18:01] <wxl> oh wait
 (driving, I will be more) verbose in a little bit
[18:01] <wxl> there IS a new release
[18:01] <wxl> nevermind
[18:01] <wxl> just bump the changelog and remove old patches as needed. done
 Yes
[18:02] <wxl> i was confused because i thought we were pulling in a bunch of changes before release
[18:02] <wxl> in which case, we'd just do one big patch, right?
 Check copyright, standards version etc
[18:03] <wxl> @kc2bez: can you at least create a skeleton with the right bulletpoints on the wiki?
[18:03] <wxl> "packaging a new upstream release" or something of the sort
[18:03] <wxl> you can flesh out the details/explanation later
 I will. Can't right now. But should be able to in about an hour or so.
[18:05] <wxl> in other news, here's all bug reports tagged with "lubuntu." i realized for the first time yesterday that @tsimonq2 has been suggesting people tag bug reports with lubuntu. we should probably go through these as i bet there are more than a couple that are affecting packages we're not paying attention to. 
[18:05] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.t
[18:05] <wxl> ag=lubuntu&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&orderby=-id&star
[18:05] <wxl> t=0
[18:05] <wxl> ok jesus launchpad
[18:05] <wxl> https://v.gd/BQKAFg
[18:05] <wxl> ^^ yash is your friend
 sorry, I got lost
 so, get the new release as a whole? 0.4.3?
 or the pacthes from 0.4.1 to 0.4.3?
[18:10] <wxl> all you have to do is the following:
[18:10] <wxl>  1. modify/bump the changelog
[18:10] <wxl>  2. get rid of any old patches that aren't relevant
[18:10] <wxl>  3. double check copyright, standards version, etc.
[18:11] <wxl>  4. build and upload like normal (part of this process will be `uscan --download-current-version` which will grab the most recent, i.e. 0.4.3)
 that's all?
[18:12] <wxl> yep
 I'm confused, I thought we were pulling 0.4.1 from debian sid, not from github
[18:13] <wxl> nope
[18:14] <wxl> `uscan` is based on `watch` which is always upstream
 ok
 should we add screengrab to seed and block "lximage-qt —screeenshot" .desktop?
 (now that I know how to modify .desktop files)
 revert this https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED915d72fabb32bf171ddb16e31f32b27b4d0a6a19
 @wxl [<wxl> 3. double check copyright, standards version, etc.], wxl: what do you mean with this exactly? Update them? or define whic one to leave?
 I cannot clone libfm-qt using ssh. Is it my firewall's problem or I don't have permission? It just stops for a long time at "cloning into 'libfm-qt'..."
 oh! now it said, connection timed out.
 I am trying to clone this: … https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/libfm-qt/
 any ideas?
 were you using the git+ssh or https clone link, just curious
 You want to grab that via ssh.
 ssh one.
 timeout sounds like it's on your end, because i just pulled it fine
 i tried git clone ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/libfm-qt.git
 something networking on your side of the network
 unless Simon broke it again
 I don't remember correctly but I guess I was able to pull lxqt-globalkeys with ssh day before yesterday.
 Italian and japanese support groups created
 @The_LoudSpeaker you can try again in 5 minutes?
 @N0um3n0 [Italian and japanese support groups created], Gr8!
 might've been a temporary network blip
 or have you been trying all day and it's been giving you that?
 @teward001 [@The_LoudSpeaker you can try again in 5 minutes?], Yup! trying after sometime had worked that day I guess.
 @teward001 [or have you been trying all day and it's been giving you that?], No. I just tried now. was out all day
[20:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Fix DND with MTP devices] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1858
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T99: Fix DND with MTP devices  3]   15The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sar …], wxl: ^
 if the patch needs other changes to be included it would be more suitable for an upstream release, if they can't do that safely then we have to attempt patch reverse engineering which as every coder knows can be a pain
 (i had to do this with a few NGINX updates in the past and it was paaaaain)
 @teward001 I tried unning it again, this time the connection timed out after 5 min 16 secs. I will try again after sometime.
 @teward001 [if the patch needs other changes to be included it would be more suitable for an …], This one needs imo. some cpp changes are there in past commits and those might be required.
 There are seven commits in total, affecting the concerned file. since last release.
[20:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Fix DND with MTP devices] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1859
 @teward001 I just shifted to my mobile data, it worked fine. Sophos must be blocking for some reason. But it works fine on ssh.
 > Sophos
 VPN or Firewall?
 or Endpoint Prot?
 Sophos connects intranet to internet in my college campus.
 firewall.
 ahhh
 we have a Sophos XG here at work
 and it powers the BUsiness Class side of my internet connections at home
 so i'm very familiar with Sophos
 they can restrict what services are actually usable by policy
 not just by port but by signature based detection, SSH might be denied currently
 or set to just time out and straight drop
 which is actually done on the 'guest' section of my business network lol
 but ssh cloning works for github repos
 could be GeoIP or anything else
 impossible to tell from here
 we have XG only.
 i'd need admin access
 Lol! admin won't give. I will talk to them tommorow moring.
 exactly 😜
 Admin won't even give it to us under their supervison.
 sounds like me with the firewalls here at work xD
 i'm the only one who's in them all day xD
 nobody else has access except CIO who never logs into it xD
[20:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5e6ba5f1d85d: Describe colpase each section on outline] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5e6ba5f1d85d
[20:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8b75195d7c4a: Add double click to jump to a page] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8b75195d7c4a
[21:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Fix DND with MTP devices] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1860
[21:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Fix DND with MTP devices] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1861
[21:38] <wxl> did everyone else get their answers? i've been busy in the showroom at work today
 I was out of my "norm" too and away from my desk. Sorry for my delayed response earlier.
 I was building .deb file for theme to upload it to ppa, the problem is, it is not getting signed by my gpg key
 `clear-sign failed: No secret key … debsign: gpg error occurred!  Aborting.... … debuild: fatal error at line 1112: … running debsign failed`
 Any ideas?
[22:33] <wxl> `gpg --list-keys` includes your key?
 yup!
[22:34] <wxl> ass `DEBSIGN_KEYID=yourkeyid` to ~/.devscripts
 ack.
 same story!
 do I have to provide keyid in long format?
 Got it. Might have to create another key without comments. My current key has a comment. debuild requires keys to be like Raman Sarda <ramansarda2000@gmal.com> and not like Raman Sarda (COMMENT) <ramansarda2000@gmail.com> 🤦🏻‍♂️ … https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=217656#15
[22:54] <wxl> really? dumb
 got it working. Didn't have to create a new one. just added and identity without comment.
 But while uploading it to a ppa, it's taking too much time and then timing out. :/
 @The_LoudSpeaker [got it working. Didn't have to create a new one. just added and identity without …], * an identity
[23:45] <wxl> dude smells like network issues over in raman land