[00:02] <daftykins> what's 18.08?
[00:02] <daftykins> ;)
[00:06] <antimatroid> 18.04 d:
[00:09] <daftykins> i'd be curious to learn if flashback is even getting maintained, seems to me it's always a bad idea to hang onto the past
[01:21] <antimatroid> daftykins: it seems to work well still to me, so much be, there's mate as a second resort if this stops working
[01:21] <antimatroid> I like it so much I'm going to cling to the past for as long as possible
[01:22] <antimatroid> it's my favourite 'os/desktop environment' by far
[01:23] <daftykins> ;)
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:58] <immu> hiu
[05:58] <immu> new update to LTS is out , any one installed it yet
[06:23] <marcoagpinto> Heya!!!!
[06:25] <immu> hi marcoagpinto
[06:25] <immu> sorry didnt see you
[06:26] <marcoagpinto> hello
[06:26] <marcoagpinto> I just got in
[06:26] <marcoagpinto> :)
[06:26] <immu> ok
[06:26] <immu> get in like?
[06:26] <marcoagpinto> as usual, I can't sleep
[06:26] <marcoagpinto> I am drinking cola
[06:27] <immu> you shouldnt be drinking that as cola will cause you harm
[06:27] <marcoagpinto> I know
[06:27] <immu> and you will end you diabetic
[06:27] <immu> have water with lemon and mint squeezed
[06:28] <marcoagpinto> i am drinking cola zero, it has no sugar
[06:28] <marcoagpinto> :)
[06:28] <immu> still same crap
[06:28] <marcoagpinto> and last night I spent an hour or two adding words to the GB speller
[06:28] <marcoagpinto> :)
[06:29] <immu> which version are you on?
[06:29] <marcoagpinto> version?
[06:29] <marcoagpinto> of OS?
[06:29] <immu> Ubuntu
[06:29] <marcoagpinto> I am on Windows 10
[06:29] <marcoagpinto> I have VMs with Ubuntu on the other laptop
[06:29] <marcoagpinto> 18.04 and 19.04
[06:29] <immu> ok , i dual boot
[06:30] <marcoagpinto> :)
[06:30] <marcoagpinto> anyway, my use of Ubuntu is more to compile my software: http://proofingtoolgui.org/
[06:31] <marcoagpinto> see the screenshots at the bottom
[06:31] <marcoagpinto> I compiled for Windows and Linux
[06:33] <immu> okie
[06:34] <immu> proofing tool
[06:34] <immu> Windows is like my home and ubuntu my bedroom
[06:34] <marcoagpinto> :)
[06:35] <immu> wait i will reboot
[06:35] <immu> :)
[06:36] <marcoagpinto> oki
[06:43] <immu> bhi
[06:44] <immu> hi
[06:44] <marcoagpinto> hey
[06:45] <immu> back
[06:45] <marcoagpinto> wb
[06:45] <immu> i have tried many distro's none work as Ubuntu does
[06:46] <marcoagpinto> Kubuntu is very good, but very hard to use
[06:48] <immu> how come>? whats the difficult part
[06:49] <marcoagpinto> well, for example, years ago it was very hard to run the "guest addictions" CD from VirtualBox
[06:50] <immu> ok
[06:50] <marcoagpinto> and downloading Proofing Tool GUI and decompressing it to a folder was a nightmare
[06:50] <marcoagpinto> I haven't used it for years
[06:50] <immu> ok
[06:50] <immu> you play PUBG
[06:50] <marcoagpinto> PUBG?
[06:50] <immu> PUBG mobile or PUBG Lite
[06:50] <marcoagpinto> what is that?
[06:50] <immu> a game
[06:50] <marcoagpinto> I don't play games
[06:50] <marcoagpinto> :)
[06:50] <marcoagpinto> I am a geek
[06:51] <marcoagpinto> I only code
[06:51] <immu> how old are you
[06:51] <marcoagpinto> 45
[06:51] <immu> i am 39 so close by
[06:51] <immu> i play casualy
[06:52] <marcoagpinto> well, I want to code games when I finish my course
[06:52] <marcoagpinto> I will return to games
[06:52] <marcoagpinto> :p
[06:52] <marcoagpinto> right now I lack the time
[06:52] <marcoagpinto> I need a 3D course to use Unity
[06:52] <immu> ok
[06:53] <immu> wait i will reboot into Window10x
[06:53] <immu> okie?
[06:54] <immu> marcoagpinto, ?
[06:54] <marcoagpinto> what?
[06:54] <immu> i am booting into Windows
[06:55] <immu> brb
[07:21] <immu> hi
[07:31] <immu> marcoagpinto,
[07:31] <immu> marcoagpinto, hi
[07:32] <marcoagpinto> :)
[07:34] <immu> on Windows i had to install, hexhcat
[08:44] <antimatroid> I recently got my site manager put on on the snapcraft store, would be stoked if people gave it a go, all feedback welcome
[08:44] <antimatroid> https://snapcraft.io/install/nsm/ubuntu
[08:44] <antimatroid> official site is at https://nift.cc
[08:45] <antimatroid> you can import/fork template site repositories to work from from bitbucket/github/gitlab and push changes back using nsm bcp "commit message", see https://nift.cc/resources/templates.html for templates
[08:57] <OerHeks> interesting antimatroid
[08:57] <antimatroid> OerHeks: cheers, a lot of site managers/generators seem to be geared towards just static sites, nsm should work fine for dynamic sites as well
[08:58] <OerHeks> currently not involved in site-maintenance, but bookmarked
[09:00] <antimatroid> it's good for simple sites too, I made my personal site n-ham.com with it
[09:00] <antimatroid> stars on github/gitlab help with rankings on things like staticgen.com
[09:00] <antimatroid> https://github.com/nifty-site-manager/nsm (switch github for gitlab for gitlab)
[09:01] <antimatroid> I'm developing some ai contests too and made the sites for those with nsm, see https://ai-bots.net and https://tron.ai-bots.net for demo sites
[09:01] <antimatroid> did anyone see the Google sponsored ai comps back around 2009-11? They will be similar to those
[09:23] <immu> hi
[09:23] <immu> i am back
[09:23] <immu> marcoagpinto,
[09:23] <marcoagpinto> what?
[09:23] <marcoagpinto> :)
[09:25] <immu> i don't know any one else except you for an hour :)
[09:31] <antimatroid> howdy
[09:33] <immu> antimatroid, how do u do 2
[09:35] <antimatroid> not too bad, what about you?
[09:35] <antimatroid> had a job interview this morning and got my site manager put on the snapcraft store (see above)
[09:35] <antimatroid> oh you joined
[09:35] <antimatroid> checkout nift.cc and https://snapcraft.io/install/nsm/ubuntu
[09:35] <antimatroid> https://nift.cc
[09:47] <immu> cool
[09:55] <immu> whats up guys
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:25] <marcoagpinto> BluesKaj!
[11:25] <marcoagpinto> Hello!
[11:26] <BluesKaj> hi marcoagpinto
[11:27] <marcoagpinto> :)
[11:41]  * JimBuntu slides marcoagpinto a frosty mug of special crafted ginger beer
[11:42] <marcoagpinto> hey hey
[11:42] <marcoagpinto> [12:26] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaaaa.... I trashed my addressbook using CardBook... I was copying contacts between groups and some became no longer associated with the groups and the photos vanished
[11:42] <marcoagpinto> I am readding the photos that vanished
[13:28] <marcoagpinto> guys?! I am terribly stressed!!!! It is almost work day!!!!
[13:47] <JimBuntu> marcoagpinto, isn't it like the middle of your work day already?
[15:10] <hggdh> Q: why would one want to *hide* SSH brute force attacks? A: because one is attacking.
[15:11] <hggdh> c.f. silus
[15:11] <hggdh> tomreyn: ^
[15:17] <RikMills> FYI is anyone sees a question: https://kubuntu.org/news/fixes-for-recent-kde-desktop-vulnerability/
[15:18] <RikMills> *if anyone
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: ^
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> thanks RikMills
[15:22] <marcoagpinto> JimBuntu: I work in a supermarket on the weekends
[15:23] <EoflaOE> hi marcoagpinto
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> hey EoflaOE marcoagpinto
[15:23] <EoflaOE> hi lotuspsychje
[15:23] <marcoagpinto> hey
[15:24] <marcoagpinto> I have a part-time job
[15:25] <marcoagpinto> 16 hours/week
[15:25] <marcoagpinto> 8 + 8
[15:25] <marcoagpinto> but it is terrible on the weekends
[15:30] <EoflaOE> marcoagpinto: nice
[15:32] <marcoagpinto> it is useless to work in a normal job... dad was a director in the bank and now that he is retired, he is poor
[15:32] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:32] <marcoagpinto> so, life leads nowhere
[15:32] <tomreyn> hggdh: thanks, hadn't seen this
[15:33] <tomreyn> but in fact this was just confirmed by PM
[16:03] <pragmaticenigma> !info qxmledit
[18:40] <marcoagpinto> lotuspsychje: you have returned!
[18:41] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: you got the weekend clowns again?
[18:47] <OerHeks> oh, it is friday, hummmm
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> jeez man
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> isnt there a fancy new game released or something?
[18:47] <OerHeks> i worked in the garden today, we bought for €175 fresh plants
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> oh?
[18:49] <OerHeks> the buxus were eaten by a moth family
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> gardening is an expensive hobby indeed
[18:50] <OerHeks> all residents pay €0,95/month for the green stuff, so there is money enough, 100 residents
[18:52] <OerHeks> They want to increase to €2 or so, but we have no clue what to do with all that money
[18:52] <TJ-> Why is gardening expensive?
[18:52] <OerHeks> €250 from last year..
[18:52] <OerHeks> we bought a lot of plants, with discount, we bought the not that nice ones..
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: plants cost money
[18:53] <OerHeks> which will be beautifull in a month, or next year
[18:53] <TJ-> oh, you buy them do you?
[18:54] <OerHeks> for myself, i do not buy plants, just good soil, plant i get or find on the street, and stone pots too.. mostly at the end of the season
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> netherlands is known for that heh, alot of pots/plants outside front door
[18:55] <OerHeks> there are 5 big containers, places to avoid parking cars near the entrance
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> wow
[18:56] <OerHeks> made of plastic from carparts
[18:57] <TJ-> yeah, we use cuttings or home-grown seed. People always willing to share seeds/cuttings
[18:59] <OerHeks> oh i do that too, in september i buy seeds with discount ..
[19:00] <OerHeks> like buying sweaters in summer, and shorts in the winter
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> wait, august is discount in netherlands?
[19:00] <OerHeks> we have no static discounts like in belgium
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> here its july and january
[19:02] <OerHeks> i know, and your shops cannot buy special offers just for those 2 periods, one must have it in stock before that
[19:03] <OerHeks> here it is free game, but somewhat limited, like you cannot do this year round
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> right
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> our discounts are actually rip-off, unsold stuff rate higher= make it look like its cheap
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> =better business
[19:05] <OerHeks> yesterday i read about an apple farmer in spain, €0,08/kg ... he cannot pay for the petrol to get the crop of the land
[19:06] <OerHeks> and in the supermarket we still pay €3,50/kg
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> : o
[19:06] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:06] <OerHeks> this madness will soon end .. or not
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> and a biological apple is special, we used to pull it off a tree..
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> 3x more expensive
[19:07] <OerHeks> i used to pick apples and cherries too, digging potatoes from the start of the field, 5x10 meter where the machine skips the first part
[19:08] <OerHeks> cutting tulips,  100 x 50, and get 5 bundles free
[19:08] <OerHeks> if one is smart, one can go shopping without money
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> forgotten of that nl tulips :p
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> saw tons of them in amdsterdam
[19:10] <OerHeks> going to the fish market, for fish heads, njummie, fish-cheek-soup
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> liquid sushi
[19:11] <OerHeks> that used to be the poor fishermans soup, now a high cuisine recepy, tin of campbells + fishheads, filet
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> fine (plastic) kitchen
[19:58] <TJ-> when I was a kid we used to grow Tulips here on the farm, mostly for the bulbs, but we'd also sell the flowers from a caravan on the road-side
[20:03] <tomreyn> and then you invented husky driven computing?
[20:05] <tomreyn> and huskell, the programming language
[20:23] <TJ-> hehehe there's a good idea!
[20:26] <TJ-> I've got a server that failed after losing power earlier, systemd drops to emergency console due to dailed 'dev-...' jobs. Seems the root of the problem is a VG didn't activate correctly, or rather the udev rules to create the /dev/disk/by-uuid/ symlinks failed to run. As aresult startup got stuck because an fsck job son't run because it is specified by the /dev/disk/by-uuid/ node. I did a "udevadm
[20:26] <TJ-> trigger" which added the /dev/mapper/ symlinks but still not got the /dev/disk/by* .... any ideas ?
[20:28] <TJ-> the by-uuid rules for raw devices (sda-sde) are there, but not those that should be created by 60-persistent-storage-dm.rules