[00:00] <OrcD3vil> amazing this issue still exist
[00:01] <OrcD3vil> can't get grub to come up assuming timing is set to 00 due to not dual booting, so the grub menu isn't loading
[00:01] <FaTaL_G> Bashing-om: the brcm is a broadcom driver, its also one that has "poor" or no support in linux, but there are a number of people who got it to work using a similar driver. It required kernel 4.4+ to work
[00:01] <OrcD3vil> can only boot into livecd
[00:02] <FaTaL_G> So for 16.04, it worked. I dont know why it wont work all of a sudden in 18.04, and there are a few articles about it for 19.04 saying "its supported properly" in the kernel now
[00:02] <FaTaL_G> but I see many articles stating it works on 18.04..... thus.. it should?
[00:03] <FaTaL_G> I'll go check out your links. thnks
[00:03] <FaTaL_G> correct jeremy31 it does not.... not until 19.04
[00:04] <FaTaL_G> This guy figured it out, so did others:  https://blog.cooperteam.net/post/2017-11-10-asus-ac88-wifi-on-linux/
[00:04] <FaTaL_G> I used it, on 16.04 successfully for 2 years
[00:05] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Well, from the liveDVD - we can look at the installed grub file and edit it if needed. A simple mount will do here :)
[00:06] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, i'm in the livedvd just rebooted
[00:08] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: From the liveDVD - let's maje sure of the target . what shows ' sudo fdisk -lu - ? where we want to indentify the partition that contains grub.
[00:08] <Bashing-om> make*
[00:10] <OrcD3vil> looks like theyt ook out xchat in livedvd what a pain
[00:10] <FaTaL_G> hmmm Bashing-om: so I should rebuid the kernel? ugh... is there any way I can confirm this is accurate? that link talks about 4.15, but I have been running 4.15 for ages
[00:10] <OrcD3vil> /dev/sda1 EFI
[00:10] <FaTaL_G> and it worked for me with my wifi
[00:10] <OrcD3vil> /dev/sda2 Linux filesystm
[00:10] <FaTaL_G> (or wiki) hehehe
[00:10] <OrcD3vil> /dev/sdb1 linux file system
[00:12] <OrcD3vil> ssd sda boot 2 partitions EFI and /
[00:12] <OrcD3vil> sdb is 3tb /home
[00:16] <FaTaL_G> Special Case #2 - For the ASUS PCE-AC88 AC3100
[00:16] <FaTaL_G> that is the card
[00:16] <FaTaL_G> tnx, ill try it
[00:17] <FaTaL_G> maybe upgrading to 18.04 rebuilt a new kernel and the old drivers were removed
[00:18] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, ?
[00:20] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Show us, please in a pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu | nc termbin.com 9999 '. The result is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here .
[00:20] <OrcD3vil> lived=cd doesn't have irc client
[00:21] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: "  apt show bcmwl-kernel-source
[00:21] <Bashing-om> " is your devise listed in the description ?
[00:24] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om what was the command again?
[00:25] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: So ? How are you on irc at this time ? the result is only simple, like " https://termbin.com/fa4k " .
[00:25] <FaTaL_G> Version: 6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu4
[00:26] <OrcD3vil> google search #ubuntu live cd and got a web client
[00:26] <OrcD3vil> was on my surface tab
[00:26] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: sudo fdisk -lu | nc termbin.com 9999 '.
[00:26] <FaTaL_G> Bashing-om: what am I looking for in that
[00:27] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: If your device is lisyed .. then a purge and reinstall of bcmwl-kernel-source might do the trick :)
[00:27] <Bashing-om> listed*
[00:27] <OrcD3vil> https://termbin.com/e7ge
[00:28] <coffeecow> What's the best/easiest way to setup calendar synchronization from my phone to Calendar (included with Ubuntu) without using Google or any of those privacy-invading services? Can I setup some sync service on my Ubuntu server at home? I hear nextcloud is OK but it is a huge pain in the ass TBQH.
[00:28] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Looks good :) .. and which drive are we attempting booting ?
[00:29] <OrcD3vil> sda
[00:29] <OrcD3vil> sda has EFI and /
[00:29] <OrcD3vil> sdb has /home
[00:30] <FaTaL_G> Bashing-om: it is not listed
[00:30] <FaTaL_G> my device is special case #2
[00:31] <FaTaL_G> I have to use a "hack" by extracting a binary stream from a 4366b linux driver, which is not full featured
[00:31] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Then we can do from the liveDVD ' sudo mkdir /mnt/looksee ; sudo mount /dev/sda2 mnt/looksee ; cat /mnt/looksee/etc/default/grub ' .
[00:31] <FaTaL_G> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1072676/asus-pce-ac88-on-ubuntu-18-04
[00:32] <FaTaL_G> one person says it works full featured on 19.04
[00:32] <FaTaL_G> which is a major driver for me wanting to go to 19.04
[00:32] <FaTaL_G> but I dont want to lose features if 19.04 is unstable
[00:33] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om https://termbin.com/zutb
[00:34] <OrcD3vil> ok so nomodeset is already enabled but still getting black screen..
[00:35] <FaTaL_G> interesting Bashing-om & jeremy31: git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git
[00:35] <FaTaL_G> find linux-firmware/ -name brcmfmac4366c-pcie.bin
[00:35] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: jeremy31: is much better aware of WIFI than I . I take a back seat to him :D
[00:35] <FaTaL_G> that was posted by a commentor... maybe I canbuild REAL support for it
[00:37] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om during install i did select to install propriatary drivers also.  Not sure why this 970 has a issue with 1/2 the distros and half it doesn't
[00:42] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om what you think?
[00:42] <FaTaL_G> any thoughts on that driver jeremy31? should I be able to use it on 18.04?
[00:43] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: I see no fault with how 'nomodeset' is set ... should workie .. booting the install - at that black screen, what results 'ctl+alt+F2" ? See if we can get to a terminal interface there.
[00:43] <OrcD3vil> no term shows pressed Ctl alt F2 - F6
[00:43] <OrcD3vil> nothing but blank black screen
[00:44] <sarnold> some laptops don't have working f2 until you hit eg the Fn key
[00:44] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31: I mean, unless I'm missing something, that is official upstream git?
[00:44] <OrcD3vil> This is Desktop
[00:45] <shakermaker> This is sparta
[00:45] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om booting into live CD literally took 5 minutes for some reason.  I can reboot give it 5 then try FN and CTL ALT F2
[00:47] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: No, what we need now is a terminal on the installed system .. think'n about how we can avoid a full change root routine to gain access :(
[00:48] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om its amazing this issue is still around, I used to work with linux back 20 yrs ago when Slackware was like ver 4 lol and this was a issue
[00:49] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: A thought - in the liveDVD boot mneu is "boot from first hard drive" .. try that and see what happens ?
[00:49] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om some distro's are fine, some have this some dont its really weird
[00:50] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Nvidia support has really improved - and getting better all the time.
[00:50] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om there is no option for that just "Try Live DVD" then try safe, then install / install safe / OEM install
[00:52] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Boot the liveDVD and as soon as bios clears spam the escape key -> language screen, escape key to accept the defaults -> boot menu :)
[00:53] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om ok and once in boot menu?
[00:54] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Looking here -- I do expext that "boot from 1st hard drive" is an option there"
[00:55] <OrcD3vil> k lets see how it goes
[00:58] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, booted to livecd, hit esc and now at grub prompt
[00:59] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: I can reboot into a 18.04 ubuntu liveDVD and confirm :(
[01:00] <OrcD3vil> when I boot it gives me optins to try, try safe mode, install, install safe mode, oem manufactuer, check disc for defects or press E to edit command
[01:00] <OrcD3vil> if I don't select any and hit Esc I get Grub term
[01:01] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Rebooting give me lots of time as this ole system is slow ..maybe a shift key vice the escape key ? getting to a grub prompt is unsettling :(
[01:01] <OrcD3vil> if i select install, not the safe mode screen goes into power save
[01:02] <craigbass76> I brought this laptop from 14.04 to 16.04 yesterday, then got it up to 18.04 today. Everything seems fine, but DNS. It's getting the same server IP as other stuff in my house, so I'm not sure what gives. If I echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolv.conf, it works, but that's not a real fix...
[01:18] <craigbass76> Oops, I tried something that didn't work. Did anyone answer me while I was gone?
[01:23] <sarnold> craigbass76: you didn't miss anything whil you were away
[01:24] <OrcD3vil> bashing got lost on that reboot lol
[01:24] <craigbass76> sarnold, thanks.
[01:26] <craigbass76> The plot thickens! If I run dhclient wlan0, I'm golden (after a reboot and having /etc/resolv.conf going back to normal) but if I reboot again, pffft.
[01:30] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, wb
[01:30] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: I can confirm that "boot from first hard disk" is an option on the desktop installer. However, my attempt to use that option failed - maybe because I do not have a standard grub ?
[01:31] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, how do you get that option?
[01:31] <sarnold> I wonder: are one of you using uefi and the other legacy?
[01:32] <OrcD3vil> ubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64 is the iso i'm using
[01:32] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: At the installer splash screen I press a shift key -> language screen, escape to accept the default -> boot options screen :)
[01:33] <OrcD3vil> so you select install safe mode then shift?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> sarnold: OrcD3vil I am legacy as my install method - OrcD3vil is indeed EFI .
[01:34] <OrcD3vil> bashing going tto reboot sleect install safe modeandtab shift key as it loads?
[01:34] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: No, the ubuntu splash screen is just after the bios screen clears .
[01:34] <OrcD3vil> once it asks what language hit esc?
[01:35] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: yup - . If you get the language screen you are on the right path :D
[01:40] <FaTaL_G> Bashing-om: jeremy31 seems to have gone silent. So I did the modprobe load, and the syslog still shows a -2 error
[01:40] <FaTaL_G> its the same file I loaded on 16.04 4.4 and 4.15
[01:40] <FaTaL_G> now on 18.04 its complains and doesnt load completely or something?
[01:41] <Bashing-om> gavinguo: Broadcom is not something I have experience with; I would really prefer others here pick up my slack.
[01:42] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: sorry gavinguo  - see ^^ .. I do not know off the top of my head.
[01:43] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, something in grub is borked
[01:44] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, went into bios forgot to plug in USB drive so I booted to UEFI SSD BAM loads
[01:44] <FaTaL_G> yea but I really do not think this is a broadcom thing
[01:44] <FaTaL_G> these are all the errors I had in the past
[01:44] <FaTaL_G> it still worked, just not with full functionality
[01:45] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, i'm now booted into system afraid to restart it lol
[01:47] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Well ! progress :) .. what whows ( pastebin) ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[01:47] <OrcD3vil> installing irc client now sec
[01:48] <OrcD3vil> and xchat won't install lol
[01:48] <Bashing-om> !info xchat disco
[01:48] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: ^^ universe repo enabled ?
[01:49] <OrcD3vil> software is doing update think it locked it so made it unable to install so doing system update
[01:50] <OrcD3vil> crap it wants to restart
[01:51] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: We can delay the reboot :) .. ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[01:51] <OrcD3vil> well if it doesn't boot i'll have to go in bios and point to the hard drive almost like the MBR never got wrote maybe
[01:51] <OrcD3vil> ok its booting into the OS now weird
[01:52] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: I would like to see the graphic's hardware and if a driver is loaded before attempting a re-boot :)
[01:53] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, i hit the reboot because i couldn't install a irc client to give you the output
[01:53] <OrcD3vil> Bashing-om, give me sec have to register 2nd nick and join channel the reboot was sucessful and just got irc client installed
[01:53] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Ho-kay .. we can work through this - long as we have a terminal there is high hopes :P
[01:55] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, ok what is the command you would like
[01:56] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[01:57] <orcd3vil-desk> https://termbin.com/eh2b+
[01:57] <orcd3vil-desk> https://termbin.com/eh2b woops
[02:02] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: Expected "unclaimed" checking for the rcommended driver now - what is presently installed - show ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[02:03] <orcd3vil-desk> https://termbin.com/eocd
[02:04] <orcd3vil-desk> 418 drive looks like
[02:05] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: Should work .. however Nvidia rcommends the 430 driver: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/149138/en-us .
[02:07] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-430 disco
[02:08] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, assuming https://askubuntu.com/questions/1147165/after-installing-nvidia-driver-430-ubuntu-19-04-does-not-boot-and-stuck-on-boot
[02:09] <orcd3vil-desk> to install drivers?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-390 disco
[02:10] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: The 430 version driver is not in the repo :( .. how do you feel about our trusted PPA to get the 430 version driver ?
[02:10] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, thats what all the websites are saying is you ahve to add and different ppa
[02:11] <sarnold> man the heck are users supposed to keep track of all this nvidia mess http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yTRSqjQgPf/
[02:12] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: Lemme verify that - as I did expext the disco repo to now have the 430 version driver .. back in a tick.
[02:14] <Bashing-om> sarnold: Uh Huh - I agree --- nvidia drivers have become a mess to know what is :(
[02:14] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, brb going to reboot.  sarnold it is a mess thats why I was saying earlier I used to play on Linux pretty well back 20 years ago and nvidia still had this nomodeset issues
[02:14] <FaTaL_G> Another issue I want to solve, is redis-server is not working. It is used (among other things) for ntopng.... I was trying to fix it yesterday, and I deleted the dump.rdp
[02:15] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: I can help with the nvidia driver :) .. but redis-server is not in my range.
[02:15] <FaTaL_G> guess that was stupid. I keep getting a sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory error, and no idea what is throwing it
[02:15] <FaTaL_G> lol
[02:16] <FaTaL_G> did I mention a nvidia issue?
[02:16] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: probably just apt purge redis-whatever and apt install redis-whastever and reconfigure it
[02:16] <FaTaL_G> no worries, if I dont ask, I wont get help
[02:16] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: Ouch on me --- wrong thought process here :(
[02:16] <FaTaL_G> I didnt try reconfigure
[02:16] <FaTaL_G> I did purge tho
[02:17] <FaTaL_G> I did purge ans reinstall
[02:17] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: wb :)
[02:17] <FaTaL_G> .... sarnold... how do I reconfigure?
[02:17] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, thnx let me try that command one more time see if output is better
[02:18] <orcd3vil-desk> https://termbin.com/kp0g
[02:18] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: edit /etc/redis/redis.conf and /etc/default/redis-server -- I'm not sure if the /etc/default/redis-server file is still useful or not, but it appears to be packaged
[02:18] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: Removed 'nomodeset' and then ran ' sudo update-grub ' ?
[02:18] <orcd3vil-desk> not yet umm lets see how i do lol
[02:18] <orcd3vil-desk> sudo /etc/default/grub right?
[02:19] <orcd3vil-desk> then remove nomodeset after quiet splash
[02:19] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: indeed the file is there, but I dont know what is throwing the error... or how to create a new dump.rdp
[02:19] <FaTaL_G> the file as in redis.conf (is there)
[02:20] <FaTaL_G> sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory  <----- doesnt really tell me anything
[02:20] <FaTaL_G> its trying to find 0 lol
[02:20] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, looks like i did it
[02:21] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: what is giving that message?
[02:21] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: That last shows still with 418 files .. did you not 'autoremove' ? .. grub : ' sudo -H gedit /etc/default/grub ' // that 'H' IS important !
[02:23] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: anytime the system tries to start redis-server
[02:23] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, this is what I did https://askubuntu.com/questions/1147165/after-installing-nvidia-driver-430-ubuntu-19-04-does-not-boot-and-stuck-on-boot
[02:23] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: can you pastebin logs?
[02:23] <orcd3vil-desk> apt-get purge nvidia*
[02:23] <orcd3vil-desk> apt-get autoremove
[02:23] <orcd3vil-desk> apt-get install nvidia-driver-430
[02:25] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, did I do something wrong with those commands?
[02:26] <FaTaL_G> ah its working this time
[02:27] <FaTaL_G> but I had to disable ::1 in the config
[02:27] <sarnold> aha :D
[02:27] <FaTaL_G> it just didnt work on reinstall because it puts ::1 in there, and I have ipv6 explicitly disabled
[02:27] <eelstrebor> Error: The backup GPT table is corrupt, but the primary appears OK - https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/WHh3MHQN3B/
[02:28] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: Nope -- I guess then that the 418 files are good - Lots has changed in nvidia recently that go over my head :( . Let's remove the 'nomodeset' and ' sudo update-grub ' reboot and see then what we have :P
[02:29] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: But I am concerned that there "might" ne a xorg.conf file at play here too.
[02:29] <Bashing-om> ne/be*
[02:30] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, k going to reboot brb
[02:34] <FaTaL_G> next question for my meddling....
[02:34] <FaTaL_G> What should I look at to discover the cause of this, when I try to install or start this service:   cento@* is a disabled or a static unit not running, not starting it.
[02:36] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: try systemctl status cento or systemctl status cento@
[02:36] <FaTaL_G> looks to be running
[02:37] <FaTaL_G> but I get that error?
[02:37] <FaTaL_G> do I just delete "cento@.service"
[02:38] <eelstrebor> i guess i'll backup my drive and try to fix the gpt error without corrupting the entire drive
[02:38] <orcd3vil-desk> Well no more stalling to boot seems to have fixed it, but 418 and 430 drivers are still showing
[02:38] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: I don't think I'd delete anything until I nuderstood what's going on and why..
[02:38] <FaTaL_G> lol, good point
[02:39] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: Abd is X happy " what now shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[02:39] <FaTaL_G> but my deleting things yesterday is waht got me into this mess
[02:39] <FaTaL_G> my ntopng install didnt work after upgrading to 18.04
[02:39] <FaTaL_G> I now know why
[02:39] <FaTaL_G> it was alllllllll because of the friggin ::1
[02:39] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: does systemctl list-unit-files  look sane?
[02:41] <FaTaL_G> I didnt even know I had that option
[02:41] <FaTaL_G> mostly sane
[02:41] <FaTaL_G> apache2.service                            enabled
[02:41] <FaTaL_G> apache2@.service                           disabled
[02:41] <FaTaL_G> things like that dont
[02:44] <sarnold> that's probably fine, see https://fedoramagazine.org/systemd-template-unit-files/ for a quick description of template files
[02:47] <orcd3vil-desk> now to figure out how to get different resolution size
[02:57] <sanroot> Hi any benefits of usinf zfs filesystem
[02:57] <sanroot> ?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> sanroot: See: https://ubuntu.com/blog/2019/08/07/enhancing-our-zfs-support-on-ubuntu-19-10-an-introduction/ ; https://www.neowin.net/news/canonical-set-to-bring-zfs-improvements-over-the-coming-ubuntu-cycles .
[03:01] <sanroot> Bashing-om:  thanks
[03:02] <Bashing-om> sanroot: Still remains "experimental" not to be relied on !
[03:07] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, any experiene in adding resolutions.  little surprised ubunut is maxing display at 1024x768
[03:09] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: See what you can do from the nvidia-setting GUI .
[03:10] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, says nvidia drivers not loaded
[03:10] <orcd3vil-desk> ERROR: NVIDIA driver is not loaded
[03:10] <orcd3vil-desk> ERROR: Unable to load info from any available system
[03:11] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: Ouch ! And ' sudo lshw -C display ' says the nvidia driver is loaded ?
[03:13] <orcd3vil-desk> sudo lshw -C display
[03:13] <orcd3vil-desk> woops
[03:13] <orcd3vil-desk> https://termbin.com/amuj
[03:14] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, when i type nvidia-settings in term box loads empty.  So I'm assuming the drivers aren't loaded.  When I go to Software Update and go to additional drivers it says no propriatary drivers are loaded but in the selects 430 are selected
[03:16] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: Sheesshh .. no driver loaded .. What says X ? ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' see if there are nay hints.
[03:16] <Bashing-om> any*
[03:18] <BeepBeepJeep> :D
[03:20] <orcd3vil-desk> i see some info on nvidia drivers but its seeing the monitor as a generic but not seeing where its putting nvidia drivers in use
[03:21] <orcd3vil-desk> https://termbin.com/ccmd
[03:25] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: reading - I be awhile .
[03:26] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, thnx for the help
[03:27] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: "Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" anything un-sane in that directory ?
[03:27] <orcd3vil-desk> 10-amdgpu.conf  10-quirks.conf  40-libinput.conf
[03:27] <orcd3vil-desk> 10-nvidia.conf  10-radeon.conf  70-wacom.conf
[03:29] <orcd3vil-desk> should i run nvidia-xconfig?
[03:35] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: Nope ! .. we hve no Nvidia driver available . want to start all over and try again ? ' sudo apt remove --purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt autoremove ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Advise of any errors reported !
[03:35] <Bashing-om> have*
[03:36] <orcd3vil-desk> sudo apt remove --purge nvidia* .. Done
[03:36] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: OH ! and make sure that secure boot is disabled.
[03:36] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, how to make sure thats disabled?
[03:36] <orcd3vil-desk> sudo rm /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf ... Done
[03:37] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: In your bios - I have no knowledge of your bios :(
[03:37] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, will check on reboot
[03:37] <orcd3vil-desk> sudo apt update ... done
[03:38] <orcd3vil-desk> sudo apt full-upgrade ... done
[03:38] <orcd3vil-desk> sudo apt autoremove ... done
[03:38] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: The nvidia driver is 3rd party .. and bios secure boot will balk if enabled.
[03:41] <orcd3vil-desk> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall .. done assuming time to reboot.  This last command asked me to setup secure boot password
[03:41] <orcd3vil-desk> Bashing-om, brb will reboot now
[03:42] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil-desk: ^^ seems then we must diable secure boot in bios - or go throgh a lot of hassel to self-sign :(
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: when uefi blocks, dmesg shows a line kernel is blocked due uefi
[03:44] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: :) good to know .. Ben at this a few hours now ... seems the issue is that secure boot is enabled prventing install of the Nvidia driver.
[03:44] <Bashing-om> been*
[03:45] <FaTaL_G> thanks for those sarnold, thats working again
[03:49] <orcd3vil> Bashing-om, ok there is no way to turn off secure boot.  I can do for windows UEFI or "Other OS" i tried other OS and ubuntu crashed and wouldn't load
[03:50] <orcd3vil> Bashing-om, the graphics look a whole lot worse after this reboot btw
[03:51] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil: Can not say .. but I have yet to know of a system that secure boot can not be disabled :( - and with secure boot enabled the 3rd party driver can not install !
[03:54] <FaTaL_G> thanks for those sarnold, thats working again
[03:58] <orcd3vil> Bashing-om, there we go.. I had to research it made me delete my Keys, then it disabled secure boot
[03:58] <orcd3vil> 1600x900 resolution now I think the drivers are loaded
[04:00] <orcd3vil> Bashing-om, thnx for the help ;)
[04:00] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil: Ho-kay ! - try this again ; ' sudo apt remove --purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' :)
[04:01] <Bashing-om> ouch _ iI be too slow ;;; what shows now ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[04:03] <orcd3vil> https://termbin.com/6dv8
[04:03] <orcd3vil> Bashing-om, nvidia-settings now works and populates with info
[04:04] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil: \o/ "configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0" Looks good :D
[04:04] <orcd3vil> Bashing-om, thnx :) going to save next project for tomorrow of mapping my NAS Box/Kodi
[04:04] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil: Now you may re-enable secure boot :P
[04:05] <orcd3vil> Bashing-om, lol what a pain in the but never had that issue before
[04:05] <Bashing-om> orcd3vil: Welcome to EFI :P
[04:06] <Bashing-om> !uefi | orcd3vil
[04:12] <FaTaL_G> I have another issue... it has got to be something with the 18.04 upgrade, because this machine has been my router for almost 2 years now, and while I have had issues, this one is strange.... it randomly stops talking to the net
[04:12] <FaTaL_G> cant ping an IP or anyhting
[04:12] <FaTaL_G> syslogd doesn't tell me squat
[04:13] <FaTaL_G> It seems to last for 8 hours, 10 hours, etc... and bam, just stops talking. If I IFDOWN and then IFUP the internet facing adapter, it works again
 hey you guys - i've got this fruitastic little problem where when i don't have a dinky little SD card in my usb slot, my linux (Kubuntu 18) won't boot. to be fair, it's set to automount in the fstab. any way i can not be forced to keep this little SD card / working? <lakitu> i just spent 45 min thinking my harddrive had a corrupt journal or whatever the flip. turns out i just had removed the sd card at one point <lakitu> plugged it back in
[04:40] <lakitu> & i could get back into my OS (couldn't without)
[04:40] <lakitu> it says "a start job is running" - shows a limit of 1:30 (1m 30s) for it to run, & when it doesn't complete by then, it throws me into emergency mode
[04:54] <Bashing-om> lakitu: The "nofail" switch ? see: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab .
[05:06] <lakitu> Bashing-om: thanks.
[05:06] <Bashing-om> lakitu: Happy2help :D
[05:10] <FaTaL_G> well jeremy31, if ypu have a chance,I'd like to get this broadcom adapter working again as an AP. It worked on 16.04. So I hope u agree it should work on the 18.04
[05:27] <rigel_> how do i get my hp deskjet printer to listen to my ubuntu 18.04 for a print job?
[05:27] <immu> what is the ubuntu chit chat channel?
[05:28] <rigel_> i know this is a ubuntu issue, because both android on samsung galaxy s10 and a windows 10 on dell work with it
[05:28] <rigel_> the job is reported to be in the queue, but it doesn't actually send the printer any data, afaict
[05:29] <m3ssia> you have all the hp printer libs?
[05:30] <rigel_> i do have hplip installed
[05:30] <rigel_> it just informed me rn that the print job is complete, but the printer doesn't have appeared to lift a single finger
[05:31] <Bashing-om> immu: ##ubuntu-offtopic ,
[05:32] <rigel_> i can manually do it through hp-print, and even through lp/lpr, to zero degree of success
[05:33] <immu> Bashing-om, thanks
[05:33] <rigel_> currently i'm trying to do it through the print dialog on firefox with a pdf document open on pdf.js, and the computer keeps giving me false positives of success
[05:33] <m3ssia> you have cups installed?
[05:33] <rigel_> which package?
[05:34] <m3ssia> idk for ubuntu... but cups and libcups and lib32-libxups
[05:34] <m3ssia> lib32-libcups**
[05:34] <rajrajraj> i am banned from ##linux, can someone please check what "lftp sftp://user:password@2001@10.131.78.17 -e cd /som/return_orders/images/; mput *; bye;" command would do
[05:35] <rigel_> doing a `apt --installed list '*cups*'`; i got the installed ones: cups,libcups2,libcupsimage2 and a lot of others i can't paste here
[05:35] <rigel_> do you want it as a pastebin?
[05:37] <m3ssia> maybe take a look at your cups server and see if everything looks good there driver and ip of the printer
[05:37] <rigel_> i have these packages: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KK5FCGgGxG/
[05:37] <rigel_> m3ssia: it's a usb printer
[05:37] <m3ssia> maybe it's old and unsupported?
[05:38] <m3ssia> Id check the cups server
[05:38] <rigel_> that my machine is running? i'm not familiar with that one, though
[05:39] <m3ssia> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cups.html
[05:40] <m3ssia> so should be 127.0.0.1:631
[05:41] <rigel_> there's three big headers: Cups for {users,administrators,developers}
[05:41] <m3ssia> http://127.0.0.1:631/printers/
[05:41] <m3ssia> whats there
[05:41] <rigel_> my deskjet, status: idle
[05:41] <rigel_> location field is blank, and make and model has hpcups 3.17.10
[05:43] <m3ssia> it say connection usb?
[05:43] <m3ssia> driver should be fine
[05:43] <rigel_> where should it say connection usb?
[05:43] <m3ssia> for instance mine says
[05:43] <OerHeks> rajrajraj, that request would be a sort of ddos / hacking, anyway unwanted as support question, that might also be the reason why you are banned in ##linux
[05:43] <m3ssia> Connection:	hp:/net/DeskJet_2600_series?ip=
[05:44] <OerHeks> !coc > rajrajraj
[05:44] <m3ssia> when you lsusb do you see the printer?
[05:44] <rigel_> i have a table with headers: [Queue Name, Description, Location, Make and Model, Status]; None of which mention anything about a connection in the table cells
[05:45] <rigel_> m3ssia: yes, it's bus2 device7 hewlett-packard
[05:46] <m3ssia> http://127.0.0.1:631/jobs?which_jobs=all
[05:46] <m3ssia> are there jobs in that list?
[05:47] <rigel_> about 12 of them
[05:48] <rigel_> some of them say canceled, aborted, held since...
[05:48] <rigel_> the primary error message catching my eye says "Unable to send raster data to the driver" and "Filter failed"
[05:49] <rigel_> and if you wanted the verbose lsusb on my printer, it's on https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MnwsG7hfMs/
[05:50] <m3ssia> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/release_notes
[05:50] <m3ssia> your printer in this list?
[05:51] <m3ssia> is this package installed? cups-filters
[05:53] <rigel_> cups-filters is installed
[05:53] <m3ssia> Unless the printer is unsupported by hplip...idk you got me I guess
[05:53] <rigel_> yes, i found my printer twice. (which could be two different printers with the added name of ink advantage)
[05:54] <rigel_> under hplip 3.15.6
[05:54] <rigel_> - HP DeskJet 2130 All-in-One Printer series
[05:54] <rigel_> under hplip 3.15.7
[05:54] <m3ssia> maybe try it over the network?
[05:54] <rigel_> - HP DeskJet Ink Advantage 2130 All-in_One Printer
[05:54] <rigel_> my printer doesn't support the network
[05:56] <m3ssia> i wonder if it is trying to send it in postscript or something
[05:56] <immu> these all in one printers suck without a network option
[05:56] <m3ssia> unable to send raster data...
[05:56] <rigel_> i actually tried to get the raster output through some filter or other, and tried to send that through lp. couldn't figure out the argv
[05:57] <m3ssia> Are you printing text?
[05:57] <rigel_> what do you mean?
[05:57] <rigel_> a txt file?
[05:57] <m3ssia> like text or an image?
[05:58] <rigel_> i'm atm trying to print a pdf which is a scan, so an image, but the same thing happens on any document i try to print
[05:59] <rigel_> should i do cli hp-print with a .txt file or smth, to check things out?
[05:59] <m3ssia> why not
[06:02] <rigel_> now i see a new job on http://localhost:631/jobs/?which_jobs=all whose state is held since [a minute ago]
[06:03] <rigel_> and the printer just lays there like a bear in hibernation
[06:07] <rigel_> i turned on hp-print's debug output, to see that it only executes `lpr -P DeskJet_2130 -o page-set=all 10_lines.txt`, which i did, with an exit code of 0, and another job on the cups queue that printer doesn't feel obligated to respond to
[06:40] <jonssons> I got an Ubuntu 18.04 image which was created on VMware imported into AWS. Upon boot the instance reports a hostname "ubuntu". when I do a "hostnamectl set-hostname test", the hostname does change for the active session, but not upon reboot.
[06:41] <jonssons> The final goal needs to be to get the default AWS hostname (which is the private dns address)
[06:41] <rigel_> jonssons: try /etc/hostname?
[06:41] <jonssons> rigel_: yes, I did try to change it there, no luck
[06:42] <jonssons> I have tried to change the kernel.hostname in the sysctl config. I do see it changing during boot to that hostname, but a few seconds later, it reverts to "ubuntu"
[06:42] <jonssons> see pastelog: https://pastebin.com/ZfnT1PUH
[06:43] <jonssons> in the pastebin log you also see at 6:34:33 the hostname is actually set to what I expect it to be, but the change is never effectuated
[06:43] <jonssons> it appears the system is not listening to systemd-hostnamed
[06:48] <dirtwash> im trying to install python, and I am getting: Failure running hook [ ! -f /usr/bin/snap ] || /usr/bin/snap advise-snap --from-apt 2>/dev/null || true
[06:48] <dirtwash> wtf is snap?
[06:48] <dirtwash> apt install python throws me snap errors
[06:48] <jonssons> snap is some new kind of package manager
[06:48] <dirtwash> well all apt install fail
[06:49] <dirtwash> weird given the host was running for 2-3months now
[06:49] <dirtwash> apt update throws errors too: Couldn't execute /usr/bin/apt-key to check /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_bionic-security_InRelease
[06:49] <dirtwash> but the binaries are fine
[06:52] <geirha> Not being able to run apt-key doesn't sound good
[06:53] <dirtwash> yea no time, i'll just reinstall
[06:56] <OerHeks> if you have secureboot/uefi and livepatch, i have seen these errors before
[06:56] <OerHeks> If you are using secure boot, you will also need to import the livepatch public keys into your keyring ... [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch] sudo mokutil --import /snap/canonical-livepatch/current/keys/livepatch-kmod.x509
[06:59] <geirha> sie left
[07:02] <Surfer2011> hello, how do i do a good backup strategy with rsync ?!
[07:03] <OerHeks> install grsync, as a gui
[07:04] <jonssons> on my issue: I think I found the culprit: cloudinit
[07:09] <jonssons> it was
[07:09] <jonssons> there was some residual cloud-init config in /var/lib/cloud which was resetting the configuration
[07:09] <jonssons> problem resolved/
[09:09] <learningc> ls
[09:09] <learningc> Is opengl already included in ubuntu?
[09:12] <ayekat> learningc: there are packages, yes - what are you trying to do?
[09:14] <learningc> I want to run a test opengl application
[09:46] <yogg> Hi
[09:49] <yogg> Does someone know a if it is possible to digitally sign logfiles? I saw that rsyslog should support this, but absulutely nothing how to setup this.
[09:51] <tekisui> hello
[09:52] <tekisui> got a brand new 2nd hand laptop
[09:52] <tekisui> :)
[09:52] <tekisui> hope this one lasts beyond the milennial bug
[09:52] <tekisui> zeit fur tearfree
[09:59] <tekisui> is there an alternative to nano editor ?
[09:59] <bad_cat> plenty
[10:00] <tekisui> i need to edit a file for the amd graphic card
[10:00] <tekisui> ah gedit
[10:00] <tekisui> i used before :)
[10:01] <yogg> most common is vi/vim I think
[10:02] <bad_cat> well, vi is at least guaranteed to be present on almost every system (due to POSIX)
[10:03] <tekisui> hope this works
[10:03] <tekisui> brb, rabota
[10:16] <iamfree> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DkreyZu9/Screenshot%20from%202019-08-09%2018-13-53.png
[10:16] <iamfree> Hello
[10:17] <iamfree> is that a screen tearing?
[10:18] <foophoof_> Hiya, I have an Nvidia eGPU connected to my laptop running Ubuntu 19.04, and it was working well up until an update 1-2 days ago. I'm not entirely sure what changed, but it looks like Prime has taken over. The eGPU is still used, but I can only get video on the internal display, the external ones don't work. If I launch in Wayland mode they all work, but mouse tracking is super slow.
[10:19] <foophoof_> Is there a way to just...disable prime entirely and check if that helps?
[11:11] <james_brown> how do i add my laptop's public key to my server that has password connection disabled?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:44] <OerHeks> james_brown, copy key to usb, and walk to the server
[11:46] <JimBuntu> james_brown, put the pub key contents inside the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file, on a single line
[11:47] <OerHeks> that requires a connection first..
[11:49] <james_brown> OerHeks exactly
[11:49] <james_brown> but i cannot connect because password login is disabled and my key is not on the server
[11:49] <james_brown> is enabling password login the only way?
[11:49] <wasanzy> hello
[11:50] <wasanzy> is there any security implication using tmux on linux?
[11:50] <TJ-> wasanzy: no more than any other tool
[11:50] <JimBuntu> james_brown, don't you have any other login capabilities for the server?
[11:50] <james_brown> JimBuntu nope
[11:50] <geirha> you must be able to get into it somehow, how else are you able to enable/disable password login?
[11:51] <TJ-> james_brown: for a remote server? no OOB access?
[11:51] <JimBuntu> james_brown, so, because of this, you can't even get in to change password authentication or anything?
[11:51] <james_brown> well i have physical access to the server
[11:51] <JimBuntu> wasanzy, I have never heard of any issue and I also use tmux
[11:51] <TJ-> james_brown: ahhh, os OerHeks's solution is the one then
[11:52] <james_brown> TJ- I see, what is OOB tho?
[11:52] <JimBuntu> out of box, james_brown
[11:52] <geirha> you can also put it on a pastebin somewhere, and wget/curl it on the server
[11:52] <james_brown> JimBuntu nothing to do with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-band_management?
[11:53] <JimBuntu> oh, could be james_brown
[11:53] <TJ-> james_brown: Out Of Band
[11:53] <wasanzy> JimBuntu, ok
[11:53] <james_brown> geirha yeah thought about that one
[11:53] <james_brown> alright, thanks for the help folks!
[11:53] <OerHeks> oh, how did you do that ... anyway, boot in recovery mode, enable password again
[11:54] <TJ-> james_brown: if you have local console access you can SSH *from* the server to your client and pull your key that way
[11:54] <james_brown> TJ- thats what i was looking for!
[11:54] <james_brown> TJ- but the only thing i was finding on google was how to push the key into the server
[11:54] <TJ-> james_brown: assumes you're on the same network and no firewall/NAT to get in the way of course
[11:55] <james_brown> TJ- yeah theyre on the same lan
[11:56] <geirha> ssh user@laptop 'cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub' >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:56] <james_brown> wait, but in that case i need to enable ssh on the laptop
[11:56] <geirha> yes
[11:56] <james_brown> i see
[11:56] <JimBuntu> probably need to install sshd and enable that
[11:56] <james_brown> alright thanks!
[11:59] <TJ-> james_brown: so you'd do "scp me@myworkstation.local:.ssh/id_rsa.pub ~/.ssh/myworkstation.pub" then " echo "$(cat ~/.ssh/myworkstation.pub)" >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys  "
[11:59] <TJ-> james_brown: make sure to append (>>) not over-write (>) !
[12:00] <geirha> cd "$(mktemp -d)" && cp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub . && python -mSimpleHTTPServer   now it's temporarily shared via http. On the server:   curl -s laptop:8000/id_rsa.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys
[12:01] <james_brown> TJ- yup! thanks
[12:01] <geirha> or, since it's just one file, nc would've sufficed
[12:01] <james_brown> geirha wow thats a cool one
[12:03] <james_brown> isnt my config file on the server supposed to be in ~/.ssh/config?
[12:06] <OerHeks> likely it is /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:06] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[12:06] <james_brown> OerHeks that file does not have all the configurations i set
[12:06] <TJ-> james_brown: only if you have a per-user SSH config; for incoming connections the default system-wide is /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:06] <james_brown> OerHeks like port number, disabling password login etc
[12:08] <ioria> james_brown, that  file overrides the settings in the global setup
[12:10] <bad_cat> james_brown: ~/.ssh/config (or the system-wide /etc/ssh/ssh_config) is for the client configuration - server configuration happens in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:11] <OerHeks> if you did not edit sshd_config on the server, you might can get in with password
[12:11] <james_brown> i remember configuring a config file changing the port it listens to, disabling password connection etc...
[12:11] <james_brown> and i cant find that file
[12:12] <JimBuntu> I would expect that to be /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:12] <james_brown> it is not the /etc/ssh/ssh_config file
[12:12] <bad_cat> james_brown: likely /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:12] <TJ-> james_brown: that'd be the server config as OerHeks pointed out, /etc/ssh/sshd_config (note the 'd' )
[12:12] <JimBuntu> note the 'd' please
[12:12] <james_brown> ooooh
[12:12] <james_brown> ok let me check
[12:12] <james_brown> omg im a retard
[12:13] <james_brown> mb
[12:13] <james_brown> thanks!
[12:13] <JimBuntu> no, mistakes are easy james_brown
[12:28] <Sonderblade> on ubuntu 18.04, clang++ doesnt work. it cant find the iostream header
[12:33] <chull> Hi I'm trying to help my husband recover from his hard drive crashing.  His backup is a bit messed up. We can't get firefox to see the internet and I have no idea where the tabs are to find out what version it is - it's Ubuntu 18.04?
[12:35] <ioria> Sonderblade, and g++ works ?
[12:35] <chull> can someone please remind us how to get an updated version of firefox in ubuntu?
[12:36] <geirha> just install any pending updates
[12:37] <geirha> firefox is one of the few packages that actually gets bumped to higher versions. Most other packages are frozen
[12:40] <geirha> though I doubt the firefox version matters that much. More likely something is wrong with the network settings
[12:40] <Sonderblade> ioria: yes
[12:40] <ioria> Sonderblade, what version of clang ?
[12:41] <Sonderblade> ioria: 6 default but i also have 7 installed
[12:41] <ioria> Sonderblade, and g++ ?
[12:42] <Sonderblade> 7.4.0
[12:42] <ioria> Sonderblade, can you try with clang6 ?
[12:43] <Sonderblade> yes, same thing happens
[12:46] <B|ack0p> hi.
[12:46] <ioria> Sonderblade, sudo find /usr -name "iostream"
[12:46] <B|ack0p> i got this error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BrFf7g7t2n/
[12:47] <Sonderblade> ioria: /usr/include/c++/7/iostream and /usr/include/c++/5/iostream
[12:49] <ioria> Sonderblade, 5 ?
[12:49] <Sonderblade> yes
[12:51] <ioria> Sonderblade, sudo find /usr -name "libstdc++.a"
[12:51] <Sonderblade> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/libstdc++.a and one for 7
[12:51] <ioria> ah
[12:52] <geirha> B|ack0p: microsoft's truetype fonts has crappy licence and can't be bundled with ubuntu's package, so instead, you have to accept their licence, then the package will download the fonts from sourceforge during install
[12:53] <ioria> Sonderblade, compile with clang++ -Wall -c -o etc. etc .
[12:53] <B|ack0p> geirha:  ubuntu popped up that to me not microsoft
[12:54] <B|ack0p> i authorise with my password to install but it makes me wait long time..
[12:54] <B|ack0p> nothing happens
[12:54] <ioria> Sonderblade, sorry, compile with clang++ -Wall -c -E -o etc. etc .
[12:54] <aLeSD> hi guysd
[12:54] <geirha> B|ack0p: I tried installing that package myself, and got the same message. sourceforge said "forbidden" in the logs
[12:54] <aLeSD> what 'set -x' command does ?
[12:54] <B|ack0p> hmm
[12:54] <B|ack0p> what can i do?
[12:54] <geirha> B|ack0p: do you need those fonts?
[12:55] <geirha> aLeSD: it enables the xtrace mode of the shell, which causes the shell to output all the commands it runs on stderr
[12:55] <B|ack0p> i dont but if ubuntu requests maybe they are usefull somewhere
[12:55] <geirha> aLeSD: useful for debugging shell scripts
[12:57] <aLeSD> geirha, thanks
[12:57] <ioria> Sonderblade, i guess that for some reason clang picks the wrong directory and cannot find libstdc++.a
[12:58] <geirha> B|ack0p: Did you install some other package recently, it might have had that font-package as a recommended package
[12:58] <chull> Thanks! Updating seems to have worked wonderfully :)
[12:58] <B|ack0p> i installed codec pack and some graphics drivers
[12:58] <B|ack0p> mesa drivers etc
[13:00] <geirha> B|ack0p: well, you can retry the installation by running   sudo apt install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer   in a terminal, but I don't think you'll get much problems from them missing; you just won't see ms fonts like Arial in font selectors, but there are many open source alternatives
[13:00] <B|ack0p> i closed now. if i receive same error i will try again
[13:00] <B|ack0p> thanks
[13:00] <geirha> might just be a temporary hickup on sourceforge's part
[13:01] <B|ack0p> but something is corrupting wallpaper
[13:01] <B|ack0p> i am running ubuntu 18.04 on an old laptop that graphics driver is not supported as i know
[13:02] <B|ack0p> when i change wallpaper it is ok but after a while and mostly after reboot wallpaper is corrupted
[13:02] <B|ack0p> do u know where can i get proper ATI drivers?
[13:02] <B|ack0p> especially old graphics such as X1300
[13:03] <tomreyn> which gpu do you have there?
[13:03] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: ATI mobility radeon x1300
[13:03] <B|ack0p> ubuntu says it is ATI RV515
[13:03] <tomreyn> radeon driver then, i think
[13:03] <B|ack0p> i reported a bug about this..
[13:04] <tomreyn> about what?
[13:04] <B|ack0p> screen corruption
[13:04] <tomreyn> i see. which driver are you using then?
[13:04] <tomreyn> and which kerneö
[13:04] <tomreyn> *kernel
[13:04] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe/+bug/1839353
[13:05] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: Linux uthink-t60 5.0.0-23-generic #24~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jul 29 16:12:28 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:05] <tomreyn> the radeon(4) !man page lists RV515 as supported
[13:06] <tomreyn> you replaced your onboard cpu? interesting
[13:07] <B|ack0p> tomreyn:  it is not onboard
[13:07] <B|ack0p> cpu is upgradable
[13:08] <B|ack0p> just graphics is ATI radeon is integrated
[13:08] <tomreyn> i got to go, will take another look at your bug report later.
[13:09] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: thanks. see you later.
[13:10] <B|ack0p> i will reboot again to check if wallpaper corrupts again.
[13:10] <B|ack0p> bbl
[13:41] <hays_> I was hoping to get help with making my ubuntu installation much smaller. I am running a raspberry pi 3 server image and its currently at 4.6GB
[13:41] <hays_> is there any way to figure out how to start removing/purging packages to bring it down smaller
[13:42] <hays_> maybe sorting the installed packages by size? something to give me a start at this
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> hays_: The ubuntu RPi image is already as small as it can be. the packages that were included are necessary to operate your computer. There isn't anything to be removed.
[13:48] <zfoo> hays_: look at ubuntu core, there's an image for the rpi and its much smaller
[13:49] <hays_> I will check it out
[13:50] <leftyfb> zfoo: ubuntu core is not ubuntu server
[13:50] <hays_> zfoo I think I shied away from this because it said I had to create an Ubuntu SSO account to make the first user, which seemed a bit much
[13:51] <hays_> what technical reason would there be for that requirement
[13:51] <leftyfb> ubuntu core is not a drop-in replacement for ubuntu server. It's all based on snaps and mainly meant for IoT solutions
[13:51] <zfoo> leftyfb: correct but you can still install what you need and use it as a server
[13:51] <leftyfb> zfoo: not true
[13:52] <leftyfb> zfoo: there's no apt package management so all your packages need to be snaps. Not all packages are available as snaps
[13:54] <zfoo> leftyfb: my bad, I wasn't aware it was snap only, only recommended it as I knew it had a small install size
[13:55] <hays_> so it doesn't seem possible that both (1) ubuntu server is already as small as possible and (2) ubuntu core is much smaller
[13:55] <leftyfb> hays_: yes it does. ubuntu server != ubuntu core
[13:55] <leftyfb> they are 2 completely different platforms
[13:56] <hays_> is there an option that is minimal, but includes apt and access to the core repositories?
[14:03] <hays_> is there any reason if I am not developing things, that I would need linux-headers, linux-modules
[14:06] <hays_> hm.. I'm guessing ripping out python3.6 is a bad idea
[14:07] <hays_> even though I actually want/need python 3.7
[14:15] <pragmaticenigma> !latest | hays_
[14:15] <B|ack0p> on screen indicator signs not appearing on my desktop
[14:15] <B|ack0p> what could be the problem?
[14:15] <pragmaticenigma> hays_: And you would be correct, not wise to remove the version of Python that was included. A large portion of the system tools are written in python
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> hays_: The kernel headers are not for development, they are used by other packages to check for compatibility. In Linux, many applications share libraries, the headers help applications know what environment they are a part of
[14:22] <pragmaticenigma> hays_: For computers like the Raspberry Pi, it's best to look for a distribution that meets your needs and requirements, than to attempt customize it. If you are looking for a smaller OS footprint, you might want to look at Raspian, It has many of the same familiar tools you are accustomed to on Ubuntu
[14:24] <hays_> there are many reasons one might choose a distro, which all need to be weighed
[14:24] <hays_> even if one facet is not ideal, it still might be the best choice
[14:28] <hays_> it seems like I installed linux-modules because something I am using wanted "modprobe config" to work
[14:32] <thothcastel_> hello guys
[14:33] <thothcastel_> I am using ubuntu and I would like to use rsync to transfer 100% of the data from source to my freenas
[14:33] <thothcastel_> I need it ot be accurate but I am struggling in getting the right command
[14:33] <thothcastel_> can you please help with the switches?
[14:33] <thothcastel_> amount of data is about 1TB
[14:34] <Cheez> i mean on the face of it for that all you should need is rsync -a (and -v if you want to watch what it's doing)
[14:37] <thothcastel_> Cheez: thanks for that
[14:37] <thothcastel_> I will try it out
[14:37] <thothcastel_> is there a switch for outputing the -v to a text file
[14:37] <thothcastel_> instead of watching with -v I would like it saved to a text file
[14:37] <leftyfb> thothcastel_: man rsync
[14:38] <Cheez> it's just stdout, you can direct it same with any other command
[14:38] <Cheez> there might be an output to file switch though, check the manpage as leftyfb said :)
[14:38] <leftyfb> thothcastel_: look for --log-file
[14:39] <thothcastel_> ok thanks
[14:39] <thothcastel_> I am there now
[14:39] <thothcastel_> I guess I will also need recursive for sub fodlers
[14:39] <Cheez> -a includes recursive, check the manpage for --archive
[14:40] <Cheez> it lists all of the flags it implies
[14:43] <hays_> anyone know what I might do to resolve "modprobe: FATAL: Module config not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0-1041-raspi2"
[14:44] <thothcastel_> rsync -av > log.txt will input into a file
[14:44] <thothcastel_> thanks fguys
[14:44] <thothcastel_> thanks guys
[14:44] <leftyfb> thothcastel_: that's not the right way to do it
[14:44] <leftyfb> thothcastel_: look into --log-file
[14:46] <B|ack0p> hi. how can i make on screen indicator signs working?
[14:47] <tomreyn> hays_: maybe you need to install kernel headers.
[14:47] <B|ack0p> in this http://linuxfocus.org/~guido/thinkpad-t60/  article author is explaining but i couldnt get it working
[14:47] <tomreyn> whats the command you were running?
[14:47] <tomreyn> hays_: ^
[14:48] <B|ack0p> he says : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dBSwGGHFt6/
[14:49] <B|ack0p> i made chmod +x /path/to/your/file.txt and then chmod +rw-rx-r-- /path/to/file.extension then rebooted but doesnt work
[14:51] <pomeha> hello, what's going to happen if I execute `... | apt-key add -` multiple times for the same user?
[14:51] <pomeha> for the same key*
[14:52] <pragmaticenigma> pomeha: Why would you be executing multiple times?
[14:53] <pomeha> pragmaticenigma: I want to write an ansible role that installs docker. One of the steps is to add the key. I need to figure out if this step is idempotent or not
[14:53] <pragmaticenigma> pomeha: I wouldn't recommend it
[14:56] <chexier> Hello, I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS. The amdgpu module exists but apparently fails to load when I use modprobe. So I can't use my AMD graphics card, great.
[14:56] <B|ack0p> any help please?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> chexier: wich kernel are you on?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> !patience | B|ack0p
[14:56] <B|ack0p> tomreyn:  did u have a chance to read my bug report?
[14:56] <B|ack0p> ok ok
[14:57] <B|ack0p> sorry
[14:57] <chexier> lotuspsychje I'm using kernel 5.0.0-23-generic
[14:57] <chexier> 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / R7 M520] (this is my amd card)
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> chexier: do you still have older kernels in your list to boot?
[14:58] <chexier> No, I don't.
[14:58] <chexier> What kernel should I use?
[14:58] <chexier> My AMD card was working in Ubuntu 18.04.2
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> chexier: another one, as a test
[14:58] <chexier> I've tested 4.19 but it also didn't work.
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> chexier: can you pastebin your dmesg please, maybe volunteers can take a look?
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: It would help you better described what you are talking about. I have never heard the term "screen indicators" used before. The more details about what you are doing and what you expect are also helpful. Providing links to different sites don't help to explain what it is you are trying to do or what you expecting your computer to do for you.
[15:00] <chexier> https://pastebin.com/jrhtEjEt
[15:01] <silus> hello
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> chexier: is that a physical install or a VM?
[15:02] <silus> can i get help to make my small machine to act normal to many ssh connections
[15:02] <chexier> A physical install.
[15:02] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: yes, and i looked at your log. there is a potential issue: "ACPI Warning: SystemIO range [..] conflicts with OpRegion [..]". I don't exactly know whether this relates to the graphics card - it refers to the PCI bus, though.
[15:02] <silus> and tu tune up some things
[15:03] <silus> hide ssh bruteforce proccesses
[15:03] <silus> and some smal things
[15:03] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: normally i'd suggest a firmware upgrade, but i assume you'll already be on the latest?
[15:04] <tomreyn> silus: make sshd listen a non standard port only, and, more importantly, only allow ssh public key authenticaation, not passwords.
[15:05] <tomreyn> that's if you are referring to an ssh server
[15:05] <silus> tomreyn, teach me hou to do that
[15:05] <tomreyn> are you running an ssh server there?
[15:08] <silus> only ssh simple machine
[15:08] <silus> like workstattions
[15:08] <silus> and i i use a lenovo e30
[15:08] <tomreyn> silus: do other computers connect to your computer via ssh?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> chexier: sudo lshw -C video, does your amdgpu driver show loaded at bottom?
[15:08] <silus> tomreyn, not the others
[15:09] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: at the moment i am on 18.04
[15:09] <silus> i did the conecction to them
[15:09] <tomreyn> silus: then i don't understand what the issue you are trying to solve is.
[15:09] <Jellyg00se> Hi, when running apt-get update, I'm given the " There is no public key available for the following key IDs" warning, where can I find the specified ID to remove it?
[15:09] <chexier> Yes, it does
[15:09] <tomreyn> silus: please describe your goals / issues in more detail
[15:09] <silus> tomreyn, i connect to other computers bye terminal
[15:09] <silus> is there any other more stable mode to do so ?
[15:10] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: by firmware, i mean the "BIOS" of your laptop
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> chexier: so something else is wrong then? what happens exactly on your system?
[15:10] <tomreyn> LENOVO 2007ZX9/2007ZX9, BIOS 79ETE7WW (2.27 ) 03/21/2011
[15:10] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: 2.27 is the recent bios
[15:11] <B|ack0p> not updated anymore
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> Jellyg00se: could you apstebin your whole output please?
[15:11] <chexier> lotuspsychje: The AMD graphics card is not used, even though I have configured DRI_PRIME.
[15:12] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: do u think that s why i am getting corrupted wallpapers?
[15:12] <chexier> lsmod | grep amd
[15:12] <chexier> amdgpu               3497984  0
[15:12] <Jellyg00se> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/ZU5YVKKg - I've tried adding searching for the key using keyserver.ubuntu which says it doesn't exist so I want to know where it even keys this key from... the sources.list, or an installed program or...?
[15:12] <chexier> chash                  16384  1 amdgpu
[15:12] <chexier> amd_iommu_v2           20480  1 amdgpu
[15:12] <chexier> gpu_sched              32768  1 amdgpu
[15:12] <chexier> ttm                   102400  2 amdgpu,radeon
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !paste | chexier
[15:13] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: ok, then i have no suggestions since there are no radeon specific errors or warnings printed to the kernel log you posted on your bug report.
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> Jellyg00se: this is the ubuntu channel here, support for debian is #debian
[15:13] <Jellyg00se> lotuspsychje, where it even finds the key from*
[15:13] <Jellyg00se> lotuspsychje, ah crap I didn't even think about it sorry :)
[15:13] <Jellyg00se> lotuspsychje, cheers!
[15:13] <B|ack0p> so it is not graphics issue, it is ACPI issue?
[15:14] <chexier> https://pastebin.com/NVRagnhf
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> chexier: pastebin: sudo lshw -C video please
[15:17] <chexier> https://pastebin.com/nG6SjQM9
[15:20] <chexier> lotuspsychje:
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> chexier: holdon, im checking few older bugs on that card
[15:22] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: i wouldn't know. i *could* be related.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> chexier: you say your card worked on 18.04.2 correct?
[15:23] <B|ack0p> so it is not possible to use 10 yrs old laptop in new systems..
[15:23] <tomreyn> silus: normally, ssh connections are stable when the network connection is
[15:24] <tomreyn> silus: what makes you look for a different approach?
[15:24] <B|ack0p> is it possible to get on screen indicators working?
[15:24] <chexier> Yes.
[15:25] <chexier> What kernel was used by Ubuntu 18.04.2?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> chexier: that depends how long you had it installed, or fresh install
[15:26] <chexier> I had it installed until like two months ago.
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> chexier: and you dont have older kernels in your list?
[15:27] <B|ack0p> https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:27] <chexier> My current install is a fresh one (I installed it yesterday)
[15:27] <chexier> Sorry but I gotta go now, I have school.
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> chexier: can you try a !mainline kernel later
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> chexier: like 5.3
[15:32] <tomreyn> !pm | silus: please note i discard personal messagesby default.
[15:32] <B|ack0p> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y6FqkGsyQr/
[15:32] <B|ack0p> sorry for my previous link. i forgot to paste
[15:33] <B|ack0p> my issue about on screen indicator is this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y6FqkGsyQr/
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: are you gonna try the bios update tomreyn suggested?
[15:33] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: i already did that
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> no dice?
[15:33] <B|ack0p> laptop is 2006 model and latest bios update v2.27 was in 2011
[15:33] <rud0lf> only 8 years old
[15:33] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje:  i faced all the issues after i updated my bios
[15:33] <B|ack0p> so nothing new
[15:33] <rud0lf> in 2027 it can drive a car
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: can you just install xubuntu or lubuntu on an older system then?
[15:34] <B|ack0p> i dont know if i can modify bios..
[15:34] <B|ack0p> i tried lubuntu 64bit yesterday.. it didnt come well
[15:34] <B|ack0p> i dont know about xubuntu
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: elaborate 'didnt come well'?
[15:34] <B|ack0p> i think i am having this issue with 64-bit ubuntu versions
[15:35] <B|ack0p> before i tried lubuntu 32bit before cpu upgrade and it was fine
[15:35] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: maybe my usb boot image was not well
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: you said you recently put in a 64bit cpu?
[15:36] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: yes but originally chipset supports 32bit and with bios update i can upgrade to c2d 64bit cpu
[15:36] <B|ack0p> but still i suspect it maybe chipset issue
[15:36] <B|ack0p> because even i upgraded to 64bit cpu, max supported ram is 3gb
[15:37] <B|ack0p> i even put 4gb but 3gb is recognised
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: i would not advice gnome3 under 4gb, unless you tweak things heavy
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> !flavours | B|ack0p there's some to choose from, lighter
[15:38] <B|ack0p> well currently i am on 18.04 64bit
[15:38] <B|ack0p> it is fine but screen corruptions are annoying
[15:38] <chexier> lotuspsychje: Ok
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: yes, and you have many issues right
[15:38] <B|ack0p> and on screen indicators not exist
[15:38] <B|ack0p> not many just few
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: did you install gnome-tweak-tool ?
[15:38] <B|ack0p> desktop and lock screen corruption and on screen indicator by now
[15:38] <B|ack0p> yes lotuspsychje
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: did you enable indicators there?
[15:39] <B|ack0p> i installed suru icon theme and some apps already
[15:39] <B|ack0p> hmm let me check
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: extenasions/ appindicators
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> *extensions
[15:40] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: ubuntu appindicators checked in tweak tool
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: ok, and whats your issue now about indicators?
[15:41] <B|ack0p> volume indicators not showing
[15:41] <B|ack0p> and others
[15:41] <B|ack0p> volume up down mute , screen brightness, microphone ..etc
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: got an empty top bar?
[15:41] <B|ack0p> no
[15:41] <B|ack0p> just nothing
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> no bar at all?
[15:41] <B|ack0p> buttons working but indicators not showing
[15:42] <B|ack0p> what bar?
[15:42] <B|ack0p> i have top bar and dock
[15:42] <B|ack0p> they are fine
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: make a screenshot please?
[15:42] <B|ack0p> volume icon showing but what i mean is when u press volume buttons there suppose to be volume indicators on screen
[15:42] <B|ack0p> ok
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: you mean the bigger keys icons when you press Fn+ F keys?
[15:43] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: https://i.postimg.cc/MHb8hwp8/Screenshot-from-2019-08-09-18-42-56.png
[15:43] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: yes
[15:44] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: i mean this: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/424611485/Screenshot%20from%202019-05-20%2023-32-46.png
[15:44] <silus> can i make terminal gheting me a beep sound when i ghet a mesajje from script ?
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: right..
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> !acpi | B|ack0p
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: you resolved the graphic corruption bug now?
[15:47] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: not resolved. it is happening on official ubuntu wallpapers
[15:47] <B|ack0p> purple wallpapers
[15:47] <B|ack0p> and lock screen
[15:47] <B|ack0p> not happening on the wallpaper i showed u
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> right
[15:48] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: is it related with SATA - AHCI/Compatible mode?
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: ahci/ide is related to your harddisk/ssd, its not the same as an acpi bug
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: im not the acpi expert myself, but some brands might have acpi bugs on boot, you could try some acpi bootlines
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: but when you say your bios is pretty old now, and you cant get a newer update..maybe dont expect much?
[15:51] <Some_Person> I was wondering if it's possible to get a Qt application installed using Snap to use the system's Gtk theme
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> Some_Person: You would have to reach out to the maintainer of the snap or the developer of the original application for that type of assistance.
[15:55] <Some_Person> pragmaticenigma: Sounds like the answer is "no" then :(
[15:55] <Some_Person> unless I uninstall the package and compile from source
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> Some_Person: Snaps are run in a containered environment. The snap maintainer needs to modify the snap so the application can read the settings file of the currently applied theme to the desktop. But also, the original developer may have removed that functionality as they desired the application to appear with a specific theme in mind
[15:58] <Some_Person> pragmaticenigma: I suspect it's more of an oversight
[15:58] <Some_Person> I have my system set up to use the current GTK theme for all Qt applications, and it works for everything I have except this one stupid application that uses snap
[16:00] <pragmaticenigma> Some_Person: Snaps are by design defaulted to the most restrictive permissions. If I may ask, what is the application?
[16:00] <FaTaL_G> is anyone on who is savvy with Ubuntu 18.04 + WIFI (As an AP) + ornory Broadcom drivers: Mind you, I had this working for nearly 2 years on 16.04, so I know it workED
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> FaTaL_G: Typically placing your question instead of asking for "anyone" is more effective. In this situation, I would recommend asking in #ubuntu-server or ##networking
[16:02] <Some_Person> pragmaticenigma: QXmlEdit
[16:03] <Some_Person> I mean, it's obviously still functional, it's just a pet peeve of mine when an application doesn't fit in with the system's theme
[16:03] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: actually i am a bit disappointed. if it was windows i would understand but linux systems suppose to support wide hardwares
[16:03] <`mist> Hey guys. I have a ubuntu 16.04 machine that i need to hook up to a monitor. I've done this but i get no screen even though i know there should be some form of output. Anyway i can kickstart the screen from console without having to reboot the machine?
[16:03] <B|ack0p> 10-13 yrs old not that old in my opinion
[16:04] <`mist> and from console i mean through SSH
[16:05] <FaTaL_G> pragmaticenigma, I did ask questions yesterday and no one was around. those 3 details are critical to helping for any question I ask and were revealed when I did ask the question yesterday. Then it was beyond them on what to do next ;)
[16:05] <FaTaL_G> I'll join those other channels too, but since it worked on 16.04......
[16:05] <FaTaL_G> seems the upgrade to 18.04 broke it... so I'd suspect this is a right channel :D
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> FaTaL_G: This channel focuses on the desktop edition of Ubuntu... what you're requesting is more related to tools and features of a server. Do note that 16.04 to 18.04 made a change in how network connections are managed
[16:07] <`mist> nvm i hadn't pushed in the usb connector for the keyboard all the way in.....
[16:08] <FaTaL_G> I am running the desktop version
[16:08] <FaTaL_G> but to your point,I remove and removed network-manager
[16:12] <BluesKaj> FaTaL_G, using the interfaces file with ifupdown?
[16:16] <FaTaL_G> BluesKaj, I am using the interfaces file for the 6 ports as a br0, which includes the w1p2s0 on that bridge. I let the system manage it auto up. But I do manually issue ifup ifdown when I have problems or when troubleshooting.
[16:17] <FaTaL_G> BluesKaj, are you mentioning the wifi issue I have or the occasional loss of forward facing traffic I posted last night?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> FaTaL_G, no i missed your wifi issue, had to reboot into new kernel version a few mins ago
[16:18] <FaTaL_G> no problem
[16:19] <FaTaL_G> I'd love to fix the internet facing issue. it seems to be working atm, but only time will tell
[16:19] <FaTaL_G> syslog doesnt contain anyhting useful about the "error"
[16:19] <FaTaL_G> but pinging name or ip of a known good source yields nill. If I ifdown then ifup, it works
[16:20] <BluesKaj> FaTaL_G, I was just curious, not many users use the interfaces file anymore, most use NM
[16:20] <FaTaL_G> I may benefit from switching to it
[16:21] <FaTaL_G> I like having cml control.... so its the main reason I dont
[16:22] <BluesKaj> FaTaL_G, I'm too lazy setup wifi in the interfaces, since it's somewhat complex so i use NM on my laptop
[16:23] <FaTaL_G> its smooth. I've used it. just no cml front end
[16:23] <BluesKaj> but interfaces ftw on this pc
[16:23] <FaTaL_G> unless there is one now
[16:24] <BluesKaj> cml ?
[16:25] <FaTaL_G> command line
[16:25] <BluesKaj> cli
[16:25] <FaTaL_G> true
[16:25] <FaTaL_G> course corrected
[16:26] <rapidwave> Having problems installing updates https://gist.github.com/ojabi/3b942933ad01b76c9403bf54a34dac4f
[16:33] <B|ack0p> can i use light weight desktop for ubuntu 18.04 ?
[16:35] <B|ack0p> is budgie desktop light weight?
[16:35] <MrCrackPot> B|ack0p, yes Ubuntu 18.04 comes with a minimal install
[16:36] <MrCrackPot> if you want extremely minimal id go with xubuntu
[16:36] <B|ack0p> can i have ambient theme on it?
[16:36] <B|ack0p> i like default ubuntu theme with purple and orange colors
[16:36] <B|ack0p> and icons
[16:37] <MrCrackPot> sure
[16:37] <MrCrackPot> most gtk themes work with xfce
[16:37] <B|ack0p> let me try budgie first
[16:38] <B|ack0p> thx
[16:39] <MrCrackPot> although i did have to set a index.theme and themerc
[16:39] <B|ack0p> what s that?
[16:39] <MrCrackPot> but this is very simple and you can copy and paste one from another theme and just edit the info to match the theme
[16:39] <rapidwave> B|ack0p: Xfce is a light-weight desktop
[16:40] <B|ack0p> rapidwave: but i want default ubuntu theme
[16:40] <rapidwave> I can't seem to fix this problem. I've searched on it and found to purge and use -f, neither work.
[16:40] <rapidwave> I believe that is available for Xfce
[16:40] <rapidwave> Perhaps he just needs xubuntu-desktop?
[16:41] <pragmaticenigma> rapidwave: If you are speaking to a specific person, it helps to prefix your messages with their name. It makes it easier to follow the conversation if someone is trying to help you with your issue
[16:41] <B|ack0p> rapidwave: i want this https://i.postimg.cc/MHb8hwp8/Screenshot-from-2019-08-09-18-42-56.png
[16:41] <rapidwave> No one specific....
[16:42] <rapidwave> I was talking about my problem, but also commented on B|ack0p's issue
[16:42] <B|ack0p> yes
[16:43] <MrCrackPot> B|ack0p, just download the theme and add it to your .theme folder
[16:43] <B|ack0p> ok
[16:43] <MrCrackPot> if the theme doesnt show up check your index.theme and themerc files
[16:43] <B|ack0p> between budgie and xubuntu desktop which one is lighter?
[16:43] <MrCrackPot> xubuntu
[16:43] <MrCrackPot> its also more stable
[16:44]  * rapidwave never heard of budgie
[16:44] <MrCrackPot> budgie is quite new
[16:44] <B|ack0p> i finished installing budgie
[16:44] <MrCrackPot> like this year or last
[16:44] <B|ack0p> brb to reboot
[16:44] <B|ack0p> can i install xubuntu desktop on 18.04 ?
[16:44] <B|ack0p> i mean ubuntu 18.04
[16:44] <rapidwave> Yes, xubuntu has been around for a while
[16:45] <B|ack0p> ok
[16:45] <B|ack0p> brb then
[16:46] <Casper26> If /boot is it's own partion can it be unmounted without taking down the system?
[16:46] <rapidwave> Wow. Were all those names B|ack0p?
[16:47] <dax> rapidwave: all which names?
[16:47] <rapidwave> A bunch of Connection reset by peer stuff
[16:47] <dax> rapidwave: no, that's just the matrix.org bridge restarting again
[16:47] <rapidwave> What is that?
[16:49] <pragmaticenigma> rapidwave: a fancy proxying service
[16:50] <rapidwave> Not sure why that is needed, but okay
[16:50] <dax> *shrug* ask the people who decide to use it i guess
[16:51] <pragmaticenigma> rapidwave: best to read up on it on their site... does some really interesting connectivity features
[16:51] <MrCrackPot> Casper26, /boot is only needed when the system is booted thats why you can have boot partition on a usb device
[16:52] <MrCrackPot> once its booted its no longer required
[16:52] <MrCrackPot> Casper26, https://www.crybit.com/linux-boot-process/
[16:53] <Casper26> Thanks that what i was thinking got a couple of servers i need to convert boot from ext2 to ext4 cant really take them down
[16:53] <CatPasswd> Ok, fine. I've been poking around and searching docs, but can't find an answer... Pulseaudio always resets volume to 100% when I restart a paused video. I can't find a way to make my volume setting stick
[16:54] <MrCrackPot> Casper26,
[16:54] <MrCrackPot> you do not need ext4
[16:54] <MrCrackPot> ext2 is enough
[16:54] <g105b> Can anyone help me understand why this disk is mounting as read only? Contents of /etc/fstab: /dev/disk/by-uuid/E8B81F44B81F10A4 /mnt/bigdisk auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show,x-gvfs-name=Big%20Disk 0 0
[16:54] <Casper26> Just wanted to bring them inline with my other servers
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> Casper26: The differences between ext2 and ext4 wouldn't benefit the boot partition
[16:56] <Casper26> Ok so sounds like a waste of my time then
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> Casper26: I'd agree, and the risk to corrupting the boot partition seems a little high
[16:58] <MrCrackPot> pragmaticenigma, corrupting the boot partition shouldnt be a problem as long as he/she does a backup first
[16:58] <MrCrackPot> changing the format from ext2 to 4 would need a format anyway
[16:59] <MrCrackPot> its one of the beautiful things of linux i love i can copy paste my partitions to another system with minimal change to get things running again without an install
[16:59] <MrCrackPot> although you must redo fstab
[17:03] <dami0> hi, i have netplan 0.36 on ubuntu 18.04, can i set a route through ifup scripts and have it work fine with netplan? i need a route with source defined which doesn't work on netplan 0.36
[17:04] <tomreyn> dami0: /join #ubuntu-server
[17:04] <Casper26> MrCrackPot: So tune2fs won't work on /boot partiton without reformat?
[17:04] <tomreyn> dami0: that's if this is a server / systemd-network backend, but maybe also with the NM backend.
[17:05] <dami0> tomreyn: thanks, joined ubuntu-server, it is
[17:09] <dami0> tomreyn: never mind, sorted it by a firewall rule for now
[17:11] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: excellent! :D great news, thanks for reporting back
[17:14] <kinghat> if you were going to install a .snap locally would you just replace the store name with the local path-to-file?
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: I think you need to provide more information on what it is you're attempting to do
[17:18] <tomreyn> MrCrackPot, pragmaticenigma: Personally, I like a journal on /boot, so upgrading to ext3/4 makes sense to me. And for what I can tell (not certain there) it's possible to upgrade ext2 to ext and ext3 to ext4.
[17:18] <thothcastel_> I am adding the below to etc/fstab
[17:18] <thothcastel_> /192.168.0.40/procopionas/DATA/'BLUE Usb Hard Drive - WD My Passport'/ /mount/PrococopioNAS/ cifs username=test1,password=test2,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[17:18] <tomreyn> *ext2 to ext3 and ext3 to ext4
[17:18] <MrCrackPot> tomreyn, wouldnt it need a format though to change
[17:18] <thothcastel_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/d5BpUwLE/
[17:18] <kinghat> dev is releasing snaps that are not in the snapstore yet. software.snap needs to be installed manually.
[17:19] <thothcastel_> but I am getting this error
[17:19] <thothcastel_> what is wrong with my line?
[17:19] <tomreyn> MrCrackPot: i don*t think so, no. but again, not certain. why do you think it does?
[17:20] <MrCrackPot> tomreyn because its like changing from nfts to fat32 or similar when ever i have done this its always needed to be formated
[17:21] <MrCrackPot> tomreyn seems your correct https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/migrate-ext2-ext3-filesystem-to-ext4/
[17:21] <MrCrackPot> sorry for spreading miss info
[17:21] <MrCrackPot> ive always done a nice clean format and then just copied over the files and updated fstab
[17:22] <MrCrackPot> i suppose im being anal though
[17:22] <thothcastel_> help please
[17:22] <thothcastel_> i need my ubuntu box to mount at reboot
[17:22] <thothcastel_> rying to add the below to the fstab - but it is giving me an error
[17:24] <tomreyn> MrCrackPot: a format is probably the best choice if you can make it easily, since there are some file system properties which cannot be changed on an existing file system and may default to different values on mkfs.ext4 now than on mkfs.ext2 back then
[17:24] <thothcastel_> can somebody invite me to #linux channel please?
[17:25] <thothcastel_> join ##linux
[17:25] <MrCrackPot> i dont think there is a #linux
[17:25] <thothcastel_> one must be invited only
[17:25] <MrCrackPot> its ##linux
[17:25] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | thothcastel_
[17:25] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | thothcastel_
[17:25] <tomreyn> Casper26: see the discussion above between MrCrackPot and me.
[17:25] <MrCrackPot> when you try to join it will auto send you to ##linux
[17:26] <MrCrackPot> for an example thothcastel_ try joining #security it will redirect to ##security and warn you #security is invite only
[17:26] <Casper26> Got it thank you all for help much appreciated!!
[17:27] <MrCrackPot> Casper26, not a problem next try moving your boot to a usb thats always fun
[17:27] <thothcastel_> I understand thanks for that
[17:27] <thothcastel_> but I get a popup saying that it is a channel with 'invite only' joining
[17:27] <Casper26> I would imagine so lol
[17:27] <pragmaticenigma> thothcastel_: Did you join #linux?
[17:28] <thothcastel_> now after many attempts - although I wasn't in today
[17:28] <thothcastel_> now it says 'it cannot join channel
[17:28] <MrCrackPot> ah pragmaticenigma it seems im wrong again and there is a #linux only i only get a warning after trying to join from ##linux
[17:28] <MrCrackPot> im not doing to well tonight with miss information
[17:29] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: #linux redirects to ##linux. if you are already in ##linux then try to join #linux you will get this misleading message.
[17:29] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: in other words, just ignore #linux, it does not exist.
[17:29] <tomreyn> !irc | thothcastel_
[17:29] <thothcastel_> tomreyn:  I know that thanks
[17:29] <kinghat> when manually trying to install snaps "error: cannot find signatures with metadata for snap "notable_1.7.0_amd64.snap""
[17:29] <MrCrackPot> tomreyn, now im so confused is this because of the whole name change cchanel malarky
[17:30] <thothcastel_> ##linux is refusing my connection
[17:30] <thothcastel_> anyway I thought ubuntu channel would help
[17:30] <thothcastel_> common issue i guess
[17:30] <thothcastel_> mounting at reboot
[17:30] <thothcastel_> editing fstab
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> thothcastel_: STop
[17:30] <thothcastel_> getting a parsing error
[17:31] <tomreyn> kinghat: how do you mean "manually installing snap"?
[17:31] <kinghat> sudo snap install software.snap
[17:32] <MrCrackPot> remove .snap ???
[17:32] <tomreyn> kinghat: and "software.snap" is a snap available in the snap store?
[17:34] <tomreyn> kinghat: if you're trying to do an offline installation, see https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/offline-snap-installers-and-possibility-to-update/275/2
[17:35] <kinghat> the snap is not provided in the store yet. dev just has it on his github: https://github.com/notable/notable/releases/tag/v1.7.0
[17:36] <tomreyn> so see the link i posted
[17:37] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: which ubuntu version are you on (lsb_release -ds)?
[17:37] <thothcastel_> tomreyn latest stable
[17:38] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: please run the command i provided if you don't know the exact version
[17:38] <thothcastel_> Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS
[17:38] <kinghat> umm how is it possible to do snap download x if its not in the store?
[17:39] <tomreyn> kinghat: skip this step if you already have the file
[17:41] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: show how you try to mount the cifs share, and what the error message is that is returned when you do. use a !pastebin
[17:41] <tomreyn> !pastebin | thothcastel_
[17:44] <kinghat> if youre not doing ack command on the snap because you dont get updates anyways then the only think left is the install command?
[17:44] <ioria> kinghat, maybe you need the --dangerous flag : sudo snap install --dangerous  notable_1.7.0_amd64.snap
[17:46] <thothcastel_> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/D9A9b5BK
[17:46] <tomreyn> i don't think you'll be able to install a local .snap unless you ack it beforehand
[17:47]  * Mac1ek says hello :)
[17:47] <tomreyn> since it involves declaring trust in its signer.
[17:48] <kinghat> i think its working
[17:48] <kinghat> says installed
[17:48] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: and this is line 13 in your fstab?
[17:49] <thothcastel_> yes
[17:50] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: when testing, don't use mount -a, instead specify the mount point defined in fstab, or specify all parameters in the beginning.
[17:52] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: youe have wrong order in fstab
[17:52] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: i think the issue here is that you will need to present the blank spaces differently. try escaping them ("\ ") after reoving the single ticks. if this doesn't work, try replacing them by url-encoded spaces ("%20") or plus characters ("+"). If neither works, maybe enclosing the *full* uri in single or double quotes will work.
[17:53] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: //servername/sharename  /media/windowsshare  cifs  username=msusername,password=mspassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  0
[17:53] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: "cifs" must be on third place, not second
[17:53] <tomreyn> oh Mac1ek is right, i hadn't noticed
[17:54] <kinghat> do appimages store their configs like any other style of packages in .config dir?
[17:56] <russw> I have `aptitude upgrade` and `apt-get upgrade` reporting wildly different actions. Why would this be?
[17:56] <russw> https://bpaste.net/show/7Fk0
[17:56] <russw> (reason for eveb tryign this is that my normal go-to is aptitude, but it failed with a weird dpkg error... `apt-get update` did the same, though)
[17:57] <tomreyn> !aptitude | russw
[17:58] <russw> argh
[17:59] <russw> didn't it used to be the recommended one?
[17:59] <russw> or am I mixing up with debian?
[17:59] <tomreyn> centuries ago, yes
[17:59] <sarnold> russw: weird. try deleting /var/lib/apt/archives/libdns-export1100* and try again
[17:59] <tomreyn> it'll be the same on debian
[17:59] <russw> sarnold: was just going to try that
[18:00] <russw> so what is the recommended one? apt, or apt-get?
[18:00] <thothcastel_> Mac1ek: tomreyn I am trying all options you suggested
[18:00] <tomreyn> your specific issue there is just that the libdns-export1100 package you have there is probably broken. a bad third-party package source, i guess
[18:00] <thothcastel_> do I need -t switch before cifs ?
[18:00] <sarnold> russw: apt upgrade is better than apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade -- but sometimes apt-get dist-upgrade is needed to sort out specific problems
[18:02] <thothcastel_> Mac1ek: the order of cifs doesn't seem to matter because if I mount with cifs as a second parameter, then the mount command it works
[18:02] <thothcastel_> but my problem is when adding it to the fstab
[18:02] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: fstab is not a direct parameter for mount
[18:02] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: in your fstab line, the "cifs" column needs to be moved one column to the right.
[18:03] <thothcastel_> tomreyn:
[18:03] <thothcastel_> https://pastebin.com/ufbyPMtT
[18:03] <russw> sarnold: I recall instructions like that (apt-get vs apt) in the guidelines for one of my last dist-upgrades
[18:04] <thothcastel_> I tried all of these options
[18:04] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: try change the order in fstab... //192.168.0.40/procopionas/DATA/'BLUE Usb Hard Drive - WD My Passport'/  /mount/PrococopioNAS/ cifs username=myuser,password=mypassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[18:04] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: not those i meantioned, though. i didn't suggest escaping the single quotes, but blank spaces, after removing single quotes.
[18:04] <thothcastel_> Mac1ek:  I have done that
[18:04] <thothcastel_> the same result
[18:05] <thothcastel_> tomreyn:  ok I will have it a go now
[18:05] <tomreyn> you don't want "-t" in fstab
[18:05] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: have you tried: //192.168.0.40/procopionas/DATA/BLUE\ Usb\ Hard\ Drive\ -\ WD\ My\ Passport/  /mount/PrococopioNAS/ cifs username=myuser,password=mypassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[18:05] <tomreyn> ^ looks good
[18:06] <russw> sarnold: I tried deletinf just the .list file first (per advice I saw elsewhere), and now I have the same problem with libpq5. This is not giving me a warm and fuzzy feeling. :(
[18:06] <thothcastel_> tomreyn   //192.168.0.40/procopionas/DATA/BLUE\ Usb\ Hard\ Drive\ -\ WD\ My\ Passport/ /mount/PrococopioNAS/ cifs username=myuser,password=mypassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[18:06] <russw> https://bpaste.net/show/LBum
[18:06] <thothcastel_> the same result
[18:07] <thothcastel_> by the way the SMB share is seating on a FreeNAS box
[18:08] <tomreyn> thothcastel_: well try the other options i suggested when you get back to it. or read up on how to correctly handle blank spaces.
[18:08] <thothcastel_> so I wonder whether the sec=ntlm should be changed to something else
[18:08] <tomreyn> ...in cifs mounts
[18:08] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: look at http://www.simpit.com/wordpress/?p=626
[18:08] <thothcastel_> tomreyn: there is only one more option to try from your suggestions
[18:08] <thothcastel_> %20
[18:08] <thothcastel_> I will do that now
[18:08] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: you need \040 instead of space
[18:09] <sarnold> russw: hmmmmmm. that's odd. maybe an apt install --reinstall libdns-export1100 -- *maybe* that will be enough to fix up the "assuming package has no files" issue
[18:09] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_:  //192.168.0.40/procopionas/DATA/BLUE\040Usb\040Hard\040Drive\040-\040WD\040My\040Passport/ /mount/PrococopioNAS/ cifs username=myuser,password=mypassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[18:12] <Aavar> are there any good text based browsers that can browse modern websites?
[18:13] <Aavar> that supports javascript and so on.
[18:14] <Mac1ek> Aavar: try w3m, elinks or lynx
[18:14] <russw> sarnold: I may have borked things. I deleted the all the libdns-export1100 files AND the lipq5 files (from /var/lib/apt/archies/)... and now my docker-ce is broken :(
[18:14] <russw> sarnold: https://bpaste.net/show/8Ux9
[18:14] <russw> sarnold: (that state is after a few successive updates and upgrades, some with apt-get by mistake)
[18:14] <tomreyn> Aavar: not that i know of, "brow.sh" (not in ubuntu, i think) is an attempt to to achieve this.
[18:15] <thothcastel_> Mac1ek: thanks for the link
[18:15] <thothcastel_> I thought it would work now
[18:16] <thothcastel_> but now I have a  different error 2
[18:16] <Aavar> tomreyn, thanks. Let me check that.
[18:16] <Aavar> Mac1ek, as far as I know, non of them supports javascript. thanks anyway :)
[18:18] <Mac1ek> Aavar: look at https://askubuntu.com/questions/34687/is-there-a-text-mode-browser-which-supports-javascript
[18:18] <sarnold> russw: what's your dmesg look like? this is *werid*
[18:19] <sarnold> russw: also weird. or wierd. I can't spell today. or any day.
[18:19] <russw> sarnold: definitely weird spelling :)
[18:19] <sarnold> :D
[18:19] <russw> sarnold: dockerd is segfaulting
[18:19] <Mac1ek> thothcastel_: what error?
[18:19] <russw> sarnold: (in dmesg)
[18:19] <sarnold> russw: just once? or over and over?
[18:20] <sarnold> russw: anything else segfaulting? io errors?
[18:23] <Aavar> Mac1ek, let me check :)
[18:23] <mystic> I installed toe beoqser from two or three different tutorials but it wont start when i click on the icon. wht sthe proper way ot install please?  ubuntu 18.04.3
[18:23] <mystic> tor browser*
[18:23] <russw> sarnold: seems to be just dockerd. without me poking it it doesn't do it anymore, but looks like some timeout loop:
[18:23] <russw> sarnold: https://bpaste.net/show/L4X9
[18:24] <mystic> proper way to install tor browser please? ive tried many ways already
[18:25] <bitx8> mystic: have you checked out tails?
[18:26] <mystic> yes, but i want it in ubuntu also please
[18:26] <mystic> but it wont start
[18:26] <mystic> tails is great by the way
[18:27] <mystic> there are at least three guides on the internet, copy and paste guide. and all three dont work.  very useless
[18:28] <mystic> anyone ?
[18:28] <sarnold> russw: ugh. this machine looks unhappy :( those ext4 errors are troubling; it's hard to judge if the dockerd errors are a simple programming error that you keep hitting or if it's eg bad memory. probably a programming error
[18:29] <sarnold> russw: I suggest checking smartctl stats on the drives.. maybe memtest86 or memtest86+ ..
[18:29] <sarnold> mystic: hopefully this can help you get good help on irc http://rurounijones.github.io/blog/2009/03/17/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
[18:29] <mystic> i cant do the git hub stuff.. its too hard to use and navigate to the package etc
[18:30] <mystic> i just use command pastes before and it worked.. but there are too many on google. i dont know what one works
[18:30] <russw> sarnold: I also did a double-atke on the ext4 error. This is actually for a VM running on a host with ZFS, so I'm a bit surprised about data errors.
[18:31] <sarnold> russw: double surprise :(
[18:31] <russw> sarnold: I think next steps are debugging docker stuff, and that is where I'm at.
[18:32] <MrCrackPot> mystic, https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/documentation.html.en
[18:32] <MrCrackPot> https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[18:33] <mystic> i cant even downlaod it from that guide mr crack pot
[18:33] <MrCrackPot> but the best should be https://www.torproject.org/download/
[18:33] <russw> sarnold: I hate when a casual attempt at updating my various systems turns into a deep dive recovery operation. :( Happens more than I like.
[18:33] <mystic> people think im 'lay' but ive tried at least five different methods. can someone help me please
[18:33] <mystic> laazy*
[18:34] <mystic> i cant install a tar
[18:34] <MrCrackPot> you dont intall a tar mystic you untar i
[18:34] <MrCrackPot> it
[18:34] <mystic> i cant do either can you please just help me install it
[18:35] <MrCrackPot> if you cant untar a tar its difficult to help
[18:35] <sarnold> russw: man the other day I jnust wanted to youtube-dl a few things.. next thing I knew I was debugging full /boot and trying to keep that from happening again. I know that pain.
[18:35] <mystic> then how about insallng from terminal
[18:35] <MrCrackPot> take some time google the different steps
[18:35] <mystic> thats what i did last time
[18:35] <mystic> pasted some commands
[18:35] <MrCrackPot> you wont learn anything that way
[18:35] <mystic> i tried it i cannto do it.. rto hard to navigate too.. i just cant, please help im not good at computers
[18:36] <MrCrackPot> and to be honest while im up for helping anyone and everyone im not up for helping those who cant help themselves
[18:36] <mystic> havent i tried enough?  at least five different ways ive tried?
[18:36] <MrCrackPot> google is your friend
[18:36] <mystic> u fucking bastards
[18:36] <MrCrackPot> language please
[18:36] <Aavar> MrCrackPot, I'll try to help him ;)
[18:36] <mystic> ive tried FIVE different watys and its still not enough
[18:36] <MrCrackPot> google how to untar a tar
[18:37] <MrCrackPot> read the links i sent you should be good to go
[18:37] <Aavar> mystic, wtf? Do you think you are entitled to help? Be nice for crist sake
[18:37] <mystic> ive triee five diferent ways.. and im told 'google it'
[18:37] <sarnold> Aavar: good luck. mystic is not particularly good at irc. mystic doesn't read, doesn't copy-paste what he tried and the error results, etc. I strongly recommend asking mystic to read AND UNDERSTAND http://rurounijones.github.io/blog/2009/03/17/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ before you put in too much time. <3
[18:37] <mystic> its too much for goda sake
[18:37] <mystic> why cant u guys just HELP me
[18:37] <MrCrackPot> mystic explain error messages what wennt wrong what you tried etc etc
[18:38] <MrCrackPot> mystic we are but its 3 am here and id rather goto sleep
[18:38] <mystic> i pasted many different guides , it installed , but wont start
[18:38] <Aavar> mystic, I am downloading now (slow for some reason) and i'll try to help you.
[18:38] <mystic> and a tarball i can never manage, ive tried many times before
[18:38] <mystic> im totally lost with it
[18:38] <mystic> thanks
[18:38] <Aavar> mystic, what happens when you start it? any errors in terminal?
[18:39] <MrCrackPot> tar -xvf nameoftar /locationtodir
[18:39] <Aavar> sarnold, lol. ok ;)
[18:39] <mystic> i got an error once when i triee to start it, btu now it wont even get that far. nothing happens.  i use the icon to start it
[18:39] <Aavar> mystic, please try from terminal
[18:39] <mystic> i dont know how
[18:40] <Aavar> mystic, what howto are you using?
[18:40] <mystic> the icon in my app drawer
[18:40] <plm> Hi all
[18:40] <plm> I install ubuntu 18.4, and when start both monitors/screen are recnognized. But after login, just on screen works and other to to black. How to fix that?I am using intel graphics
[18:40] <plm> *go to black
[18:41] <mystic> google it plm, you'l never learn if u dont.. thats the usual advice here lol
[18:41] <Aavar> mystic, the point of startin from terminal is that you will get errors that we can maybe help you with. What howto are you using?
[18:41] <mystic> i dont knw pwhat you ar asking sorry
[18:41] <mystic> whats a how to ?
[18:41] <B|ack0p> i installed several different desktops to 18.04 but now i cant get the default one back. how can i get back default login screen in ubuntu 18.04?
[18:41] <Aavar> mystic, guide
[18:41] <MrCrackPot> https://pastebin.com/raw/Eqb3wPu0
[18:41] <mystic> i tried a few.. and copied ans pasted as they suggested. none worked
[18:42] <Aavar> plm, it can be set up in the "display" app
[18:42] <Aavar> settings even.
[18:42] <B|ack0p> actually i want everything back.. i ruined some settings while dealing with desktops
[18:42] <Aavar> mystic, seriously. Give me the link to the last one.
[18:42] <mystic> https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=to+browser+wont+start+ubuntu+18&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8    iv no idea what one is the right oen to use
[18:42] <mystic> one*
[18:42] <OerHeks> !tor
[18:42] <mystic> ive tried about 5
[18:42] <OerHeks> do not use our tor package.
[18:42] <Aavar> mystic, are you trolling?
[18:43] <mystic> no im not
[18:43] <Habbie> Aavar, yes
[18:43] <Habbie> Aavar, mystic has been trolling various channels for the last few days
[18:43] <thothcastel_> finally working my FSTAB
[18:43] <OerHeks> .. 5 tor packages? yes, that is trolling
[18:43] <thothcastel_> here is the final statement
[18:43] <thothcastel_> https://pastebin.com/PL95Mrtu
[18:43] <mystic> get lost habbie.. i want to install tor.. why even try to ruin that for me
[18:43] <plm> Aavar sorry, where are this "display" app?
[18:43] <Habbie> mystic, nice
[18:43] <Aavar> plm, in your app drawer. Just start the settings app.
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> !who
[18:44] <mystic> i used about 5 different guides, and im all confused.. ive no idea maybe i need ti unsstall and start again
[18:44] <plm> Aavar: just to clarify, that screen that works dont load all ubuntu, just mouse, so I click with right button on mouse to choose "open terminal"
[18:44] <Aavar> mystic, ok. Last try. Can you please give me the link to the last guide you tried
[18:44] <mystic> i donr remember the last one sorry
[18:45] <Aavar> mystic, ok, please download the file linked higher up and wait for me to do the same.
[18:45] <OerHeks> mystic, without that crucial info, nobody can or will help
[18:45] <mystic> https://itsfoss.com/install-tar-browser-linux/
[18:45] <mystic> i sued about 5 :(
[18:45] <mystic> what am i supposed to tell you
[18:45] <mystic> none worked
[18:45] <MrCrackPot> B|ack0p, dude i forgot what the default is haha
[18:46] <plm> Aavar: I have no access, becouse the screen that works, not works completaly, just mouse I can see. But I can to open terminal
[18:46] <Aavar> mystic, ok, start your terminal and type tor and hit your tab key.
[18:46] <mystic> sometimes tor browser triees to start, even after a few minutes, but its self  'veryfiying signature'  then hangs
[18:46] <mystic> ok
[18:47] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: /etc/X11/default-display-manager should contain this line (only): /usr/sbin/gdm3
[18:47] <mystic> Failed to parse/validate config: Failed to bind one of the listener ports.
[18:47] <plm> Aavar neo:~$ tortor                  tor-gencert          torify               tor-instance-create  tor-resolve          torsocks
[18:47] <B|ack0p> let me check
[18:47] <Aavar> Anyone know the command for starting the settings app in gnome for plm ?
[18:48] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: yes only that line in there
[18:48] <MrCrackPot> B|ack0p, if your looking to go light on the resources can always use light-dm
[18:48] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: /etc/gdm3/custom.conf should only contain comments and [sections]
[18:48] <B|ack0p> but still i see xubuntu login screen
[18:48] <Aavar> mystic, please run dpkg -l torbrowser-launcher|grep bin
[18:48] <Habbie> Aavar, -L ?
[18:48] <plm> Aavar ok
[18:49] <mystic> -i or -l ?
[18:49] <mystic> L i geuss, non capital
[18:49] <Aavar> mystic, yes
[18:49] <plm> Aavar neo:~$ dpkg -L torbrowser-launcher | grep bindpkg-query: package 'torbrowser-launcher' is not installed
[18:49] <MrCrackPot> B|ack0p, sounds like you need to switch from xfce to unity
[18:49] <Aavar> plm, that was for mystic
[18:49] <mystic> not found,. guess i types it wrong.. jeez.. its hard
[18:49] <B|ack0p> gm3 custom conf has some sections like [security] [xdmcp]
[18:49] <B|ack0p> MrCrackPot: i dont know what i need :/
[18:49] <plm> Aavar ok
[18:50] <Aavar> mystic, just copy the line?
[18:50] <mystic> dpkg -l torbrowser-launcherlgrep bin
[18:50] <B|ack0p> i am trying to use my old laptop on recent ubuntu
[18:50] <mystic> right?
[18:50] <Aavar> mystic, no. | not l
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: can you not randomly chat in here please
[18:50] <Aavar> the key is normally left of 1 om your keyboard.
[18:50] <mystic> i cant copy on hexchat
[18:51] <B|ack0p> gdm3 is fine without corruption but installing different styles looks like cloth with patches
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: focus on 1 ubuntu question, then pantient until someone helps you
[18:51] <B|ack0p> lotuspsychje: am i chatting randomly?
[18:51] <B|ack0p> they are talking to me
[18:51] <Aavar> mystic, use your third button (or both left and right if you dont have a third button)
[18:51] <mystic> i think i did it.  nothing happened tho. but i got no errors at least
[18:52] <MrCrackPot> lotuspsychje, sorry thats my fault im trying to figure out if its his window manager or Desktop environment he needs to change
[18:52] <plm> Aavar interesting that if I start a usb live choosing "try ubuntu without install" both screens works. After installed both  screens works. But after I do the login, one screen go to black and o other just mouse works.
[18:52] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: /etc/gdm3/greeter.dconf-defaults discusses the gdm defaults. if you want to reset those, use gsettings. example to list the current settings for /org/gnome/login-screen: gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.login-screen
[18:52] <Aavar> plm, are you on a laptop?
[18:52] <MrCrackPot> although its a little weird you pull him on it but not for the language thats been used here
[18:53] <Aavar> mystic, please run dpkg -L torbrowser-launcher
[18:53] <plm> Graphics:  Card: Intel HD Graphics 630 bus-ID: 00:02.0           Display Server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: i915 Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
[18:53] <Aavar> capital this time
[18:53] <mystic> i have to type 'run' also ?
[18:53] <Aavar> mystic, no
[18:53] <plm> Aavar no, I'm a PC with two screens. I not a laptop
[18:53] <plm> *is
[18:53] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: i thin lotuspsychje is suggesting you mention my name when you're responding. this will help me notice your response.
[18:54] <Aavar> plm, you have to find a way to run the settings app, but I don't know the command.
[18:54] <TJ-> plm: is the log-in to a a fresh user profile, rather than one that has inherited settings?
[18:54] <mystic> ok o got lots of text when i did that
[18:54] <mystic> i got*
[18:54] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: ok
[18:55] <Aavar> mystic, please paste it in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:55] <plm> Aavar no, is a new installation. New computer, a new installation.
[18:55] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: exactly like this :)
[18:55] <Aavar> plm, try to run "gnome-control-center"
[18:55] <mystic> done
[18:55] <plm> Aavar trying. moment
[18:55] <Aavar> mystic, and paste the link here.
[18:55] <mystic> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HZrkgtTKnF/
[18:56] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: i am confused and upset about issues i am facing for 2-3 days
[18:56] <Aavar> mystic, I said capital L, but that will do...
[18:56] <mystic> i  did.. those are the results
[18:56] <TJ-> plm: the difference *may* be the type of session you have on the Live vs on Installed; it could be the Live is using X11 (Xorg) whereas installed may be (trying to) use Mutter, the Wayland display server in Gnome
[18:56] <B|ack0p> appearantly desktop or window manager is not working properly..
[18:56] <B|ack0p> on my old laptop
[18:56] <Aavar> mystic, no, that is the result if you run with a non capital l.
[18:56] <Aavar> mystic, run torbrowser-launcher
[18:56] <plm> Aavar hey
[18:57] <mystic> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/n9xwfGYdXF/   i did it
[18:57] <Aavar> plm, hey?
[18:57] <plm> Aavar I open that and in display option change motniros, left to right moved and try apply. Works both. But without ubuntu load completally, just mouse working in both screen.
[18:58] <plm> Aavar sorry, my fault
[18:58] <plm> Aavar load complete ubuntu yes hahaha
[18:58] <plm> Aavar thanks so much.
[18:58] <Aavar> mystic, I see that... weird. Anyway, run torbrowser-launcher in terminal and paste the results if any.
[18:58] <Aavar> plm, it worked?
[18:58] <plm> Aavar yes :)
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> B|ack0p: your current question is?
[18:59] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: i see, sorry to hear this. i won't be able to support you there unles we (re)discuss those details. right now i'm just trying to help you restore the default gdm (graphical login manager) configuration, since this seemed to be what you asked for.
[18:59] <plm> that is a bug, becouse I just move two screen in "display option.
[18:59] <Aavar> plm, cool. Now try to log out and see if it sticks :)
[18:59] <plm> and apply
[18:59] <plm> Aavar all right, testing..
[18:59] <plm> see you soon
[18:59] <Aavar> plm, weird.
[18:59] <mystic> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mjRZBH786v/     hangs there
[19:00] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: thanks. if i cant get default desktop then i may fresh install again.. it wont take time
[19:00] <Aavar> mystic, weird... maybe someone can help you with those errors.
[19:00] <Aavar> mystic, did you download the tarball?
[19:00] <mystic> yea, ive zero chance myself
[19:00] <mystic> yea its downloaded
[19:00] <Aavar> ok. in your Downloads folder?
[19:00] <mystic> yea
[19:01] <Aavar> mystic, start your terminal and run cd ~/Downloads
[19:01] <mystic> but i dont know how to type the path correc tetc. never works for me
[19:01] <plm> Aavar hey works
[19:01] <plm> Aavar not I will install everything again becouse before I enter here I install many thigs to try to solve
[19:01] <plm> Aavar thank you so much!
[19:02] <mystic> no such file or directory
[19:02] <MrCrackPot> mystic sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module
[19:02] <MrCrackPot> if 64bit sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module:i386
[19:02] <Aavar> MrCrackPot, thanks. I'll wait with the tarball dor now :)
[19:02] <mystic> command not found mr crackpot
[19:03] <MrCrackPot> sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module
[19:03] <mystic> why wont hexchat let me copy..
[19:03] <Aavar> mystic, I think you need to know some basics of the terminal. use the tab key to complete commands for ease of use.
[19:04] <MrCrackPot> it works fine for me
[19:04] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: you can reset-recursively those branches listed in /etc/gdm3/greeter.dconf-defaults and then rename .config to .config_old in your home. by this time you should be able to login to a default gnome-shell again - and then cherry pick those directories from .config_old/ (to .config/) you still need
[19:04] <mystic> well i cant type it right
[19:04] <Aavar> mystic, as I said earlier. Use your middle mouse button to paste.
[19:04] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: thanks
[19:04] <Aavar> mystic, just mark the text and use your third button in terminal to paste.
[19:04] <mystic> but i cant copy from hex chat
[19:05] <MrCrackPot> mystic, so type it
[19:05] <mystic> im trying to type it
[19:05] <russw> sarnold: you may appreciate the "fun" of this... my ssytem was so messed up I rolled back to a zfs snapshot from hours ago (zfs rocks) and it was STILL a problem. The gust filesystem was mounting readonly due to orphaned inodes.
[19:05] <mystic> its hard to do it correct
[19:05] <Aavar> mystic, if you mark the text in hexchat and click your third button in terminal if will paste.
[19:05] <russw> sarnold: fsck time and this was the result: https://bpaste.net/show/50Rw
[19:05] <mystic> i think i id it it installed something
[19:05] <mystic> i did it *
[19:06] <Aavar> mystic, Btw. you can use ctrl+shift+c to copy from hexchat.
[19:06] <russw> sarnold: system is now working, but... fingers crossed and I do feel a bit nauseous :)
[19:06] <mystic> thanks i'll try to remember
[19:06] <Aavar> mystic, then try to run torbrowser-launcher in terminal again.
[19:06]  * MrCrackPot falls asleep on keyboard
[19:07] <russw> sarnold: s/gust/guest/
[19:07] <mystic> hanging on 'refreshing local keyring'
[19:08] <mystic> probably becasue i used google five time, as i have no idea what one im suppose d to use, and i cant use the hard ones... but thats what happens when im told to google it..
[19:08] <Aavar> mystic, ok, lets try a different approach.
[19:09] <mystic> ok
[19:09] <Aavar> mystic, start your file manager and locate the tarball we downloaded (it should be in your downloads folder)
[19:09] <mystic> i can see it
[19:09] <mystic> should i pirge the old tor first?
[19:09] <mystic> purge*
[19:10] <Aavar> mystic, hmm... we will do that after.
[19:10] <mystic> ok
[19:10] <mystic> i dont know if its still running in background
[19:10] <Aavar> mystic, double click the tarball.
[19:10] <mystic> hanging maybe
[19:10] <mystic> ok
[19:10] <Aavar> mystic, just hit ctrl+c in your terminal
[19:10] <mystic> ok
[19:11] <Aavar> mystic, did it die?
[19:11] <mystic> i dont knowl i cnat see if its running or not
[19:11] <mystic> just thought it might be
[19:11] <Aavar> mystic, just close the terminal.
[19:11] <mystic> ok
[19:12] <Aavar> mystic, ok, please double click your tarball
[19:12] <mystic> done. it unzipped
[19:12] <Aavar> mystic, ok, you extracted it or it just opened in archive manager?
[19:13] <mystic> it just extracted i think. i cna see the folder now of same name
[19:13] <Aavar> mystic, did you click extract?
[19:13] <mystic> no, just double clicked
[19:13] <Aavar> mystic, click extract and extract it.
[19:13] <mystic> done.. double click does the same i think
[19:14] <mystic> its extracted
[19:14] <Aavar> mystic, no it dow not. please go back to your Downloads-folder and double click tor-browser_en-US
[19:14] <mystic> i did
[19:14] <mystic> and it extracted automatically
[19:14] <Aavar> and then double click start-tor-browser.desktop
[19:15] <Aavar> mystic, and then double click start-tor-browser.desktop
[19:15] <Aavar> mystic, btw, you really should learn to use tab-completion
[19:15] <mystic> it works, thanks
[19:15] <mystic> its not in my app drawer though
[19:15] <mystic> guess i have to use this document everytime i want to start
[19:16] <mystic> if it complete the wrong words i wouldnt know
[19:16] <Aavar> anyone know a easy way to get the desktop-file to app drawer for mystic ?
[19:17] <mystic> the omnly tor laincher in my app drawer are the broken old ones
[19:18] <Aavar> mystic, to remove the package run apt remove --purge torbrowser-launcher
[19:19] <ioria> Aavar, ~/.local/share/applications/
[19:19] <Aavar> mystic, sorry, put sudo in front of that.
[19:20] <mystic> thanks theyve gone now
[19:20] <mystic> linux is ballbreakingly hard for me.. and most people here wont help me...
[19:21] <Aavar> mystic, Seriously. With that attitude you are making it really .help you to hard
[19:21] <OerHeks> so you messed up, reinstall, use ubottu s factoid and Tor should work fine
[19:21] <Aavar> mystic, Seriously. With that attitude you are making it really hard to help you.
[19:21] <mystic> why?  i tried t5 times and im still told to google it. its too much
[19:21] <OerHeks> !tor
[19:21] <Aavar> mystic, as I said. the attitude...
[19:21] <mystic> 'google it' is a good attitute?
[19:22] <Aavar> mystic, now, put both the folder and the desktop file in the folder ioria mentioned.
[19:22] <ioria> !google
[19:22] <mystic> iora?
[19:22] <ioria> mystic,  ~/.local/share/applications/
[19:23] <mystic> i dont know how to get to local sorry
[19:23] <mystic> im on  'home' and cant see any local
[19:23] <ioria> mystic, locate your .desktop file and copy to that location
[19:23] <ioria> mystic, it's hidden
[19:23] <mystic> i cant find that location
[19:23] <Aavar> ioria, he needs the Browser dir asswel.
[19:23] <tomreyn> nautilus ~/.local/share/applications/
[19:24] <ioria> mystic, ls -al ~
[19:24] <mystic> i paste this ? or look for it in gui ?
[19:24] <ioria> Aavar, ah
[19:24] <Aavar> mystic, copy the files (ctrl+c) and run the command tomreyn in terminal.
[19:24] <Aavar> mystic, then hit ctrl+v
[19:24] <Aavar> ioria, for some reason, he refuses to use the terminal.
[19:25] <ioria> i see
[19:25] <mystic> i am useing it now. but its hard to use right
[19:25] <mystic> it didint work
[19:25] <ioria> mystic, what did not work ?
[19:25] <mystic> i dragged it in instead
[19:25] <Aavar> mystic, seriousely... "It didn't work" gives us nothing to work with...
[19:25] <mystic> when the local, share .application window opened
[19:26] <Aavar> mystic, good :)
[19:26] <mystic> home .local  share   apllication
[19:26] <mystic> ok
[19:26] <mystic> thanks
[19:26] <Aavar> mystic, now it should be in your app drawer
[19:27] <mystic> it is, i have two, one with an icon and one without
[19:27] <mystic> but they seem to work
[19:27] <ioria> mystic, remove what you have in /usr/share/applications
[19:27] <ioria> mystic, or move
[19:27] <mystic> oh no..  'proxy server refusing connections'
[19:28] <mystic> the browser opens but no connection process
[19:28] <Aavar> mystic, you have a gui?
[19:28] <mystic> i have some gui.'s.  what one yoyu mean ?
[19:28] <mystic> its blank the first tor one
[19:28] <Aavar> mystic, then my job is done. I dont know how tor works.
[19:29] <mystic> google it lol
[19:29] <mystic> see, and im supposed to know
[19:29] <mystic> thanks very much for your effort
[19:29] <Aavar> mystic, dont be a dick
[19:29] <mystic> im saying.. [eople tell me, now you know how hard it is
[19:29] <mystic> its not right
[19:30] <Aavar> mystic, do you think we all got born with this knowlege to serve you?
[19:30] <mystic> i thought its a help room.. and since i know nothing...
[19:30] <Habbie> 8:42Z <Aavar> mystic, are you trolling?
[19:30] <Aavar> mystic, are you paying us?
[19:30] <mystic> whats the point in coming here if im told to google it..
[19:30] <OerHeks> so you messed up with '5' different howto's, just reinstall, use ubottu s factoid and Tor should work fine
[19:30] <Aavar> Habbie, i know ;)
[19:30] <Habbie> (sorry, that's 18:42Z)
[19:30] <Habbie> Aavar, i'm just surprised no op has acted yet
[19:30] <mystic> so cos i cant use linux well im trolling?  ok
[19:31] <mystic> habbie, just get the hell oit if u dont like it, its nothing t odo with you
[19:31] <Aavar> Habbie, to be fair, I think he has a real issue...
[19:31] <Aavar> Habbie, both with his attitude and system :P
[19:31] <OerHeks> Aavar, but with this mess, 5 howto's, too difficult to try to correct all changes
[19:31] <Habbie> Aavar, i don't doubt mystic has real problems getting things to work; but then there are the non-technical problems
[19:31] <OerHeks> reinstall, and you be back in 30 minutes
[19:32] <mystic> that s what i was trying to say in the begning
[19:32] <mystic> thanjs habbie now how about u p*ss off
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> mystic: enough please
[19:32] <mystic> reinstall ubuntu ?
[19:32] <OerHeks> guys, keep it civil and family friendly, thanks.
[19:32] <mystic> well habbie can get the enough warning tp please
[19:32] <mystic> too*
[19:33] <Habbie> OerHeks addressed us in general
[19:33] <Aavar> mystic, just let it go already. People are trying to help you to be nice and you are just demanding to be helped in a specific way.
[19:33] <mystic> i dint understaand terminal.. i can copy and paste.. cant evne type it properly hald the time
[19:33] <mystic> half*
[19:33] <mystic> so should u reinstall ubnutu ?
[19:34] <Aavar> mystic, and as I said earlier. You are not entitled to help. We are using our free time to help you. Please have some respect.
[19:34] <mystic> if habbie insults me i will insult back
[19:34] <mystic> that sfair
[19:34] <Aavar> mystic, only, he is not...
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> Aavar: please dont feed trolling
[19:34] <OerHeks> stop it.
[19:34] <mystic> ca;ling me a troll
[19:34] <Aavar> mystic, and btw, that is not fair.
[19:34] <mystic>  i don't doubt mystic has real problems getting things to work; but then there are the non-technical problems''
[19:34] <Aavar> lotuspsychje, ok, i'm done.
[19:34] <mystic> and that
[19:36] <mystic> i d id what you peolple asked, i trie dto do it my self with several guides. yet im still told to google it...
[19:36] <mystic> no its my fault
[19:36] <mystic> ok..
[19:36] <mystic> thanks f or your help anyway the ones who did help
[19:36] <ioria> If you can’t win, make sure you don’t lose . johan cruyff
[19:37] <Aavar> mystic, btw, You really should learn about the terminal. It's quote powerful https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/command-line-for-beginners#0
[19:37] <mystic> so waht do i do now?  not use tor i guess
[19:37] <mystic> its too hard for me
[19:37] <mystic> i cant go that deep in this stuff
[19:37] <mystic> i tried today its terrible
[19:38] <mystic> maybe some people just arent good at this stuff, like how some are dyslexic, i dont know
[19:38] <Aavar> *biting tounge*
[19:41] <mystic> i think it was messed up when i dragged it in.  i deleteed it and first opened the foler and copied and pasted the browser folder and the launcher into the  directory
[19:41] <mystic> seems to work now
[19:41] <Aavar> I have a weid problem in gnome. THe "disable trackpad when typing"-setting in gnome-tweaks seems to not work. ANyone know anything about that?
[19:42] <mystic> plus i even have the icon in app drawer now
[19:42] <Aavar> Btw, I am running 19.04
[19:42] <OerHeks> Aavar, not sure that tweak needs a logout/login to activate
[19:43] <Aavar> OerHeks, let me check.
[19:43] <ElFerna> by
[19:44] <Aavar> OerHeks, nope. still the same.
[19:44] <mystic> doesnt work again now...
[19:44] <mystic> i'll retart
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> Aavar: mine is working on 18.04
[19:46] <mystic> doesnt work again..
[19:46] <Aavar> lotuspsychje, might be something I have done when runnin xfce...
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> mystic: can you please not type random chat in the support channel, focus on ubuntu questions and patient please
[19:46] <mystic> im not.. i thought maybe peple can suggest something...
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> Aavar: still got gnome installed?
[19:47] <Aavar> lotuspsychje, yes. That is what I'm running.
[19:47] <mystic> i will do a fresh install... maybe the 5 to install attempts messed the innards up
[19:48] <Aavar> lotuspsychje, le me check if it's working in xfce or unity7 (my desktop of choice these days)
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Aavar: you installed several desktops ontop of ubuntu-desktop?
[19:50] <mystic> now i get an error when i try to reinstal lthe os from usb..  some message then a 'grub'   prompt.   no menu or nothing
[19:50] <OerHeks> Aavar, there are more claims that it does not work, maybe touchpad-indicater is your help, find your personal settings in timing, http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/how-to-disable-touchpad-while-writing-article-or-documentation-in-ubuntulinux-mint-or-derivatives-linux
[19:51] <mystic> wha thappened to my boot menu after installing ubuntu 19.04.3?  now i cant reinstall it
[19:52] <Aavar> lotuspsychje, working in xfce, but not unity7...
[19:52] <mystic> cant evne use ubuntu anymore.. ok, by efor now
[19:55] <Aavar> lotuspsychje, I even tried a different user... thats weird I think. I'll google a bit and see what I can find ;)
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> Aavar: maybe unity handles it differently, check unity-tweak-tool?
[19:55] <OerHeks> unity 7 .. missed that
[20:00] <Aavar> Unfortunately there is no setting for that in unity-tweak-tool.
[20:06] <Aavar> Fuck... I installed touchpad-indicator and now it fucked my touchpad settings.
[20:07] <tomreyn> !language | Aavar
[20:09] <Aavar> tomreyn, sorry. And sorry for rambling.
[20:09] <mystic> can i please have the file location where to put the tor file sagain please
[20:09] <mystic> im trying again on a fresh install
[20:09] <Aavar> mystic, /home/aavar/.local/share/applications
[20:09] <Aavar> lol
[20:10] <mystic> thanks
[20:10] <Aavar> mystic, ~/.local/share/applications
[20:10] <mystic> how do i navigate to it?
[20:11] <mystic> i cant find a local folder
[20:12] <Aavar> mystic, enable hidden directories in your filemanager
[20:12] <Aavar> hidden files even.
[20:12] <mystic> i dont knwo where to look even
[20:13] <mystic> i only managed last time by pasting tomryns comand
[20:13] <mystic> its not hidden , i just dont know where to look
[20:14] <Aavar> mystic, it's hidden (everything with a . in front is hidden.
[20:14] <mystic> ok. and i cant find an unhide option in file manager
[20:14] <bitx8> mystic: open you file manager, navigate to the home directory, press ctrl+h
[20:14] <Aavar> mystic, https://lmgtfy.com/?q=show+hidden+files+in+ubuntu
[20:17] <mystic> got it thanks
[20:17] <Aavar> :)
[20:18] <OerHeks> Aavar, well, that guide is not written for unity7 ..
[20:19] <Aavar> OerHeks, what guide? (i'm sorry, I believe I have lost some of the feed)
[20:20] <OerHeks> about that touch inducator ..
[20:20] <OerHeks> so, remove that i guess
[20:21] <Aavar> OerHeks, ok :) Yeah, I did. And I found a guide to reset the settings to normal. For some reason the fact that "dissable touchpad when typing" is not working is not as irritating in unity as it where in gnome.
[20:48] <mystic> test
[20:48] <silus> anyone enjoy bruteforce scanners ?
[21:04] <tomreyn> silus: this irc network and also this channel have a strict policy against hacking. please respect this.
[21:06] <silus> ok
[21:08] <bad_cat> hacking is fine - doing illegal stuff isn't (please don't change the meaning of the word "hacking")
[21:09] <tomreyn> too late, it already happened. we can discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <basalt> hi, got lots of warnings in syslog like Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 31 with keysym 31 (keycode a) any hints? version19.04
[21:21] <bad_cat> basalt: have you got a ~/.Xmodmap file? maybe there is some mapping rule in there that's odd
[21:23] <basalt> bad_cat: no ~/.Xmodmap file found
[21:36] <tomreyn> basalt: is this related, if only by being logged close to the other) to fingerprint based authentication?
[21:38] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1824855/comments/3
[21:39] <tomreyn> basalt: more likely, it's this, though? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=245058
[21:40] <basalt> no fingerprint, i got this on open the lid and the session starts
[21:41] <tomreyn> without actually pressing any keys there?
[21:42] <basalt> hard to say if there was a key pressed before the log appears
[21:43] <tomreyn> file it as a bug against gnome-shell, i'd say: ubuntu-bug gnome-shell
[21:43] <OerHeks> check if your mediakeys still work?
[21:43] <OerHeks> i found bug 1832374
[21:45] <basalt> whats a media key?
[21:46] <OerHeks> not the range F1-F12, but other keys that handle special tasks, volume, stop/start/skip
[21:46] <basalt> i have volumn via function key on f11 and 12 but this keys are working, no additional play pause keys
[21:47] <russw> sarnold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbSehcT19u0
[21:47] <OerHeks> oke file a bugreport against gnome-shell, as tomreyn suggested.
[21:47] <russw> sarnold: (per your youtube-dl comment I somehow missed) :)
[21:50] <basalt> ok thx
[22:05] <Mibix> I just installed an nvidia GT 710 card in my rig and went to additonal drivers and picked the latest nvidia version but it doesnt seem to be working when i plug in my monitor to it
[22:05] <Mibix> is there something else i have to do?
[22:12] <FaTaL_G> I have an ubuntu machine that was 16.04 running a asus pcie-ac88u (broadcom) and using interfaces & hostapd I ran it as a router AP successfully for over a year. I upgraded to 18.04, now its not working
[22:12] <FaTaL_G> eg: kernel: [55270.802443] brcmfmac: brcmf_run_escan: error (-4)
[22:12] <FaTaL_G> hostapd[18763]: Failed to create interface mon.wlp2s0: -95 (Operation not supported)
[22:12] <FaTaL_G> but it does support AP
[22:19] <manjeets> Hi guys how do i reset apt proxy set during loading ubuntu server to machine ?
[22:20] <manjeets> I have to use -o Acquire::proxy=false
[22:20] <manjeets> any way i could reset it permanently ?
[22:21] <guntbert> manjeets: add that line (without the   -o   to   /etc/apt/apt.conf
[22:22] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: can you pot this:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[22:22] <manjeets> guntbert, got it thanks :)
[22:22] <guntbert> * (without the -o )
[22:23] <tomreyn> Mibix: so none of your monitors currently work there? or just an additional one you added?
[22:24] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: *poSt, not pot ;)
[22:25] <Rojola> hi
[22:25] <Rojola> I installed Apache2 and PHP 7.0 on Ubuntu 16.04
[22:25] <Rojola> how can I tell Apache to know that PHP exists?
[22:25] <tomreyn> how?
[22:25] <coz_> Is there a way to stop caja from writing the desktop as we were able to do with nautilus  in gnome 2? The only reason, for me, is the ability to use the compiz reloaded wallpaper plugin properly
[22:26] <Rojola> tomreyn, info.php  shows  <?php phpinfo(); ?>  in the browser
[22:26] <tomreyn> Rojola: i mean how did you install Apache2 and PHP 7.0 on Ubuntu 16.04?
[22:26] <Rojola> tomreyn, apt install php apache2
[22:27] <Rojola> tomreyn, apt show php shows:  Depends: php7.0
[22:27] <Rojola> # php -v
[22:27] <Rojola> PHP 7.0.33-0ubuntu0.16.04.5 (cli) ( NTS )
[22:28] <OerHeks> Finally, restart Apache to allow PHP to run: systemctl restart apache2.service
[22:28] <tomreyn> Rojola: there are a couple ways to connect the two. the easiest is probably mod_php, but it's not well suited for shared hosting. do you host multiplewebsites managed by different people?
[22:28] <Rojola> tomreyn, it's one single vhost on one single vserver
[22:28] <Rojola> iptables and fail2ban are in place
[22:29] <Rojola> OerHeks, I already restarted Apache twice
[22:29] <tomreyn> Rojola: did you a2enmod php beforehand?
[22:29] <Rojola> no
[22:29] <Rojola> good idea...
[22:29] <Rojola> # a2enmod php
[22:29] <Rojola> ERROR: Module php does not exist!
[22:30] <tomreyn> maybe its php7
[22:30] <Mibix> so my new gpu wont show up in nvidia x server settings
[22:30] <Mibix> but i have the newest nvidia gpu installed from additional drivers
[22:30] <Rojola> tomreyn, https://dpaste.de/8iRo/raw
[22:31] <tomreyn> Rojola: well, install it then ;)
[22:31] <Rojola> I installed php
[22:32] <Rojola> can I trust ondrej ?
[22:32] <Rojola> https://www.liquidweb.com/kb/install-php-7-2-ubuntu-16-04/
[22:32] <Rojola> a private repository for php 7.2
[22:32] <Bashing-om> Mibix: What does the system see ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ; lsmod | grep nvidia ' ?
[22:32] <OerHeks> Mibix, make sure your motherboard is Pci Express 2.0, https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-710/specifications
[22:34] <tomreyn> Rojola: you probably haven't installed libapache2-mod-php7.0. and you'll need to decide yourself whether want to go with ondrej's (apparently well done) php back-/forward ports or use ubuntus. i can't recomend one over the other.
[22:35] <Rojola> tomreyn, what is more risky?  Going with the old PHP 7.0, or trusting a private repository to get the newer PHP 7.2 ?
[22:35] <tomreyn> i don't know, you decide
[22:36] <Mibix> it is OerHeks
[22:36] <Larco_scarsa> Hi guys, I would need some help with a live-usb ubuntu 18.04 boot problem on a ryzen 3700x + rtx 2080 super.... I do precise that i already installed several linux systems in the past
[22:36] <Mibix> its detecting it in the system details
[22:37] <Mibix> just not in the nvidia x server settings :/
[22:37] <Larco_scarsa> see the thread here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2424497&p=13878577#post13878577
[22:37] <Mibix> when i do inxi -Gx it lists it too
[22:39] <Rojola> thank you tomreyn, everything works now!
[22:40] <Larco_scarsa> Anyone?
[22:40] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: do a bios update, disable secureboot (you can enable it later if needed), make sure you use ubuntu 18.04.*3* (asterisks to stress) to install. boot the installer with !kernelparm amdgpu.dc=0 if still needed.
[22:40] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | Larco_scarsa
[22:41] <Mibix> grrrrrrrr
[22:41] <Rojola> one more question:  I created a huge, huge, huge file with md5-checksums before I will "rsync" a directory from one server to an other:
[22:41] <Rojola> find . -type f -exec md5sum '{}' \; > ../md5sum.txt
[22:42] <Rojola> My plan was, to run the _same_ command on the new server, and then use "diff" to compare "md5sum.txt" of the old server with the one from the new server
[22:42] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: the  “Couldn’t get size: 0x800000000000000e”  message is most likely not an indication of the issue preventing the boot from succeeding. i have a ryzen 1800 with rx580 which prints this message every boot but works fine otherwise.
[22:42] <Rojola> however, I wondered, if the program "md5sum" can check the generated file against the directory recursively?
[22:43] <Larco_scarsa> I already did a bios update. I think that secureboot is disabled in my bios but i will check it. And i will try the  !kernelparm amdgpu.dc=0 fix
[22:44] <Larco_scarsa> As i was saying in the thread: when i am getting the error message, the screen freezes so that I cannot go further in the installation process
[22:44] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: make also sure that your iso image download is comlete and not corrupt (!checksum) and that the image wa properly written to your usb storage
[22:46] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: you did not comment on which ubuntu version you used to install. also note that there are also non-graphical installers which may help getting the installation done and botting to the full non-graphical system, which can ease further analysis.
[22:47] <Larco_scarsa> Yeah my bad I was trying to install ubuntu-mate-18.04.3-desktop-amd64
[22:48] <Larco_scarsa> As for non-graphical installer, I am not familliar with
[22:48] <Larco_scarsa> but I will seek for informations on them
[22:49] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: ignore the amdgpu.dc suggestion, i was somehow thinking you were using an amd gpu. with nvidia you may need to use nouveau.nomodeset=1
[22:50] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: oh mate, that's good to point ut since it's different to the default ubuntu installer, i think.
[22:51] <brandonkal> Hello, I have a list with some non english characters. I would like to get a list with lines with only A-Z,a-z,0-9,-. I'm not familiar enough with awk/grep to know how to do this so I would appreciate some help.
[22:51] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: for non-graphical installers, your choice is between ubuntu (live) server installer, ubuntu alternative server installer, mini.iso, debootstrap
[22:51] <sarnold> russw: oh my YES hal fixing a lightbulb describes my evening the other night *perfectly* :)
[22:52] <sarnold> russw: how's your machine looking?
[22:52] <tomreyn> brandonkal: /join #bash  (or your favourite shell)
[22:52] <brandonkal> Will do. Thanks.
[22:54] <Larco_scarsa> As for the integrity of the iso file: I was able to boot on it on my laptop, so i think that it is indeed nvidia related
[22:55] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: my guess, too. so try nouveau.nomodeset=1 or just nomodeset
[22:56] <tomreyn> !bootlog | Larco_scarsa: as a last resort on the graphical installer (before you try the text based ones)
[22:58] <tomreyn> Larco_scarsa: and i'm off to bed (please repeat the issue / question / what you tried so far / answers to my questions to get help from someone else should all of this fail)
[22:58] <Larco_scarsa> oki thanks for the help, I will try those fix and if all goes well, I will mark my thread as solved
[22:58] <Larco_scarsa> see ya
[23:00] <tomreyn> good luck.
[23:42] <Mibix> lol so i figured out why my nvidia card wasn't working
[23:42] <Mibix> had to set it as primary in BIOS :/
[23:42] <Mibix> even though it could still see it in ubuntu it wouldnt show up in nvidia x settings
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Mibix: \o/ Thanks for the update :)
[23:46] <Mibix> haha