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[02:13] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl: uscan --download-current-version … uscan: Newest version of nm-tray on remote site is 0.4.1, specified download version is 0.4.1 … Successfully symlinked ../0.4.1.tar.gz to ../nm-tray_0.4.1.orig.tar.gz.
[02:14] <lubot> <HMollerCl> why it doesn't get 0.4.3?
[02:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> here is the watch https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/nm-tray/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/debian/watch
[02:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @kc2bez do I miss something?
[02:16] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [why it doesn't get 0.4.3?], Because you didn't bump the changelog
[02:16] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Create a new entry with 0.4.3
[02:19] <lubot> <HMollerCl> thanks!
[02:20] <lubot> <HMollerCl> 0.4.3-0ubuntu1 ?
[02:20] <lubot> <HMollerCl> previous vas 0.4.1-0ubuntu3
[02:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> what/where do I have to look for copyright issues?
[02:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [0.4.3-0ubuntu1 ?], Yes
[02:23] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [what/where do I have to look for copyright issues?], Check the diff between the tags upstream
[02:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> are mostly weblate
[02:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Grep for "copyright"
[02:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> nothing, only for context
[02:41] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Standars version is still 4.3.0 anc ompat 12? Where can I find it?
[02:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcec657641cb8: Add text antialias bits] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcec657641cb8
[02:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html here says 4.4.0 since july
[02:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> but compat?
[03:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL346e12e6f79c: Add graphics postscript screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL346e12e6f79c
[03:03] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [but compat?], Keep it at 12
[03:20] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Thanks
[03:20] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I will continue tomorrow
[04:13] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> dude smells like network issues over in raman land], I don't undrstand. My mobile data should work fine na even if not sophos.
[04:17] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> how to which ports launchpad uses for ftp? the ppa uploading uses ftp.
[04:18] <wxl[m]> Good job @HMollerCl
[04:19] <wxl[m]> @The_LoudSpeaker the canonical one
[04:20] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @The_LoudSpeaker the canonical one], ?
[04:21] <wxl[m]> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol
[04:21] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I meant like port 2222 or 80 or 22 or 21. Sophos has ftp unblocked on 21 but it isn't working.
[04:22] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol], Ohh. will read.
[04:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol], There's one more definition of the acronym commonly used by fans of the Chicago Bears and the Minnesota Vikings :P
[04:22] <wxl[m]> tcp 21 out, 20 in
[04:22] <wxl[m]> Simon, go away
[04:23] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Simon, go away], lol! that was a slogan in India in last century.
[04:23] <wxl[m]> Looks like the incoming is a not surprising problem with firewalls 
[04:24] <wxl[m]> Really? Tell me more! 
[04:25] <wxl[m]> Wonder if you can force PASV… 
[04:25] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Really? Tell me more!], https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Commission
[04:26] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Wonder if you can force PASV…], Reading on that only now.
[04:27] <wxl[m]> 🏴
[04:27] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Simon, go away], XD
[05:08] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I uploaded to ppa successfully using sftp but haven't recieved any mail.
[05:08] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> wait. nvm just got it
[05:09] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> https://launchpad.net/~theloudspeaker/+archive/ubuntu/lubuntu-grub-theme-devel … Here's the ppa. Please test it. Currently only amd64 systems supported.
[05:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1862
[05:12] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2: wxl: @HMollerCl: @teward001: @kc2bez: @lynorian: @guiverc: ^^
[05:12] <wxl> good job!
[05:14] <guiverc> ack
[05:14] <lubot> <tsimonq2> ack
[05:14] <lubot> <tsimonq2> XD
[06:15] <wxl> fyi @The_LoudSpeaker `-P` or `--passive` should tell `dput` to use passive (PASV) versus active (POST) data transfers. that should resolve the firewall issues. however, it looks like this might be deprecated so you may have to use `--override "passive_ftp=true"`
[06:21] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> fyi @The_LoudSpeaker `-P` or `--passive` should tell `dput` to use passive …], ack.
[06:29] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I made some changes to some  files under /debian folder of the theme.
[06:30] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> but I can't upload the changes to th ppa.
[06:30] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> It says  … `Package has already been uploaded to lubuntu-grub-theme-devel on ppa.launchpad.net … Nothing more to do for ../lubuntu-grub-theme_1.0-1_source.changes`
[06:32] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [but I can't upload the changes to th ppa.], Make sure you bump the version
[06:32] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> ohh. okay.
[06:33] <lubot> <tsimonq2> "Version numbers are cheap" <-- been repeated to me by several experienced people :)
[06:34] <lubot> <lynorian> scarity of version numbers is not something that should even be considered why should that even exist
[06:34] <lubot> <lynorian> there are only countably infinite number of them
[06:51] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> 1.0-1ubuntu1 is default is it okay?
[06:52] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> it comes automatically after dch -i
[06:53] <TJ-> "1.0" is the upstream version? "-1" is the Debian package version ?
[06:53] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> yup!
[06:54] <TJ-> in which case, as dch -i has correctly added, it needs "ubuntuX" as the ubuntu revision of the Debianised packaging :)
[06:55] <TJ-> each time 'dch -i' runs (on Ubuntu) it'll increment the 'ubuntuX' part
[06:56] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> It says rejected. Unable to find lubuntu-grub-theme_1.0.orig.tar.xz in upload or distribution
[06:57] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Should I include the debian folder on github?
[06:59] <TJ-> I'm not clear on what tool you're using to upload. If it is 'dput' it will expect to find the org.tar alonside the .changes and .dsc files (check the .changes file lists the orig and debian tarballs)
[06:59] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I am using dput
[06:59] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @TJ- [<TJ-> I'm not clear on what tool you're using to upload. If it is 'dput' it will …], That's a Launchpad rejection email message
[07:00] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'm too tired to be able to give you in depth advice at the moment, but try to follow semver
[07:00] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I ran `dput devel-ppa ../lubuntu-grub-theme_1.0-1ubuntu1_source.changes`
[07:00] <lubot> <tsimonq2> And PPAs get `~ppaX`
[07:00] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [And PPAs get ~ppaX], So the version no should be 1.0-1ppa1 ?
[07:01] <lubot> <tsimonq2> No, probably 0.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[07:01] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Unless it's a native package
[07:01] <lubot> <tsimonq2> In which case, 0.1~ppa1
[07:01] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> It's non native
[07:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> So is your orig tar separate from your packaging?
[07:03] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I don't think I understand your question.
[07:04] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Ohh no.
[07:04] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> My package is native
[07:04] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Do you have your source code in a tarball?
[07:04] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Aha :)
[07:04] <lubot> <tsimonq2> So 0.1~ppaX
[07:05] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I thought non native means those which are for others than debian. But yeah just remembered. non native are those which are not for apt/dpkg. But mine is native.
[07:05] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [So 0.1~ppaX], ack.
[07:06] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I have to go to bed, sorry :)
[07:06] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'm UTC-5 here
[07:06] <lubot> <lynorian> night @tsimonq2
[07:06] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @lynorian [night @tsimonq2], Night :)
[07:07] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Bye and thanks!
[07:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> same error even after naming as ppa1
[07:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> :(
[07:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [It says rejected. Unable to find lubuntu-grub-theme_1.0.orig.tar.xz in upload or …], ^
[07:34] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Got it fixed. check out the theme everyone.
[07:36] <guiverc> :)  yep see it now.
[07:40] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> And yeah, I had selected 'single' in while running dh_make so I guess it isn't restricted to amd64 machines only. so yup! please try it on other systems also.
[07:42] <guiverc> ack
[07:47] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Thanks and bye everyone now. Thanks for bearing my noob queries. Won't bother untill late night. Gonna skate. been 2 months now.
[07:47] <guiverc> gotta go reboot for some reason... :)
[07:47] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> fingers crossed.
[08:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1863
[11:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] Tj (Tj) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#1864
[15:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl @kc2bez after uscan --download-current-version I endedn up in my wprking directory with nm-tray directory (which inside has .git, debian and resources directories) and 0.4.3.tar.gz. Is that ok? I don't need to untar?
[15:31] <lubot> <kc2bez> Sounds right. You don't need to untar it.
[15:31] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I go into nm-tray and run sbuild and says: dpkg-source: info: building nm-tray using existing ./nm-tray_0.4.3.orig.tar.gz
[15:32] <lubot> <kc2bez> That sounds right
[15:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I get a lot of warnings from missing files
[15:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T568GJqwqr/
[15:38] <lubot> <kc2bez> Which directory did you run sbuild?
[15:38] <lubot> <HMollerCl> inside nm-tray
[15:39] <lubot> <HMollerCl> outside didn't run, caomplain abaout not finding changelog
[15:40] <lubot> <kc2bez> Right. It needs to be in nm-tray. Looking at your paste again.
[15:41] <lubot> <HMollerCl> should I run it only like "sbuild" no options?
[15:41] <lubot> <kc2bez> It looks like you have an sbuild issue. It didn't create the chroot.
[15:42] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yes no options.
[15:42] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yes, but the manual I follow didn't talk abou chroot, only schroot
[15:42] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[15:43] <lubot> <HMollerCl> don't know how to config them
[15:51] <lubot> <kc2bez> I am taking a look.
[15:56] <lubot> <HMollerCl> thanks!
[15:56] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [don't know how to config them], +1
[15:56] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I also followed same manual.
[16:01] <kc2bez> I followed the manual, it wasn't a super smooth process at first. Once you get it set, it goes better. Based on the issues you are having 2 possible issues maybe? Take a look and make sure you did 11. the optional part. You want shm builds. And in step 4 if you edited fstab you may need a reboot.
[16:02] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Aaa ok, I didn't did that
[16:02] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (11)
[16:02] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Thanks
[16:02] <kc2bez> you can see the listing of your chroots with `schroot -l`
[16:04] <kc2bez> oh also at the bottom of the guide: "mount your home dir" section
[16:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Ack.
[16:12] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Thanks!
[16:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @kc2bez sed: can't read /etc/schroot/chroot.d/*: No such file or directory
[16:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> should I creat an empy file?
[16:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1865
[16:19] <kc2bez> hmm, I don't remember doing that. You did a `mk-sbuild eoan` from step 10 right?
[16:23] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Quick query: where can I find lubuntu 14.04 ? I friend has a very old laptop with 256mb ram and wants to use it to set up a local server for some robotics work.
[16:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> hmm, I don't remember doing that. You did a `mk-sbuild eoan` from step …], mmm maybe that was, I remeber doing that but didn't found in history
[16:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1866
[16:49] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Quick query: where can I find lubuntu 14.04 ? I friend has a very old laptop wit …], ?
[16:51] <lubot> <HMollerCl> did he needs a desktop environment?
[16:51] <lubot> <HMollerCl> otherwise he could install ubuntu server
[17:00] <lubot> <kc2bez> You should not use 14.04
[17:01] <lubot> <teward001> 14.04 is EOL and should not be used heh
[17:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> got a lintian warning, but apparently nm-tray doesn't have help nor manual
[17:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> W: nm-tray: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/nm-tray
[17:01] <lubot> <kc2bez> Getting somewhere. Nice
[17:03] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I mean, that's the only problem, should I create a manpage or we let it go?
[17:03] <lubot> <kc2bez> Check with @tsimonq2 you may want to set a lintian override.
[17:05] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ok, thanks
[17:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 wxl: nm-tray sbuild gave me a lintian warn because it doesn't have manpage, what should I do?
[17:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#1867
[17:10] <wxl[m]> I think ignore it
[17:11] <wxl[m]> I don't want to override because it should have a manpage
[17:11] <wxl[m]> But that's not necessarily our job
[17:11] <wxl[m]> Make an upstream issue 😊
[17:48] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Ok, so I will upload then, with git or with arc?
[17:50] <lubot> <kc2bez> Where are you pushing it to?
[17:53] <lubot> <kc2bez> Or worded another way, what branch are you working on?
[17:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Phab
[17:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Arc diff then?
[18:00] <lubot> <kc2bez> wxl[m] I think the answer is yes, right?
[18:00] <lubot> <kc2bez> ^
[18:00] <wxl[m]> Yep
[18:03] <lubot> <kc2bez> @HMollerCl technically CI is hosted in phab too but it is a different branch, that was why I asked. If you are working on eoan you want to `arc diff`
[18:04] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Ooo, actually I've never worked in ci
[18:06] <lubot> <kc2bez> It can be a good way to further check your builds. There is a wiki page on phab that would be good to read at some point.
[18:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Sound interesting but for that I would have to clone from ci first, or not?
[18:09] <lubot> <kc2bez> Without making it complicated, yes :P At this point go with what you know.
[19:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe37927bacd3b: Remove double space] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe37927bacd3b
[19:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL97e0ce51ed9a: Fix screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL97e0ce51ed9a
[20:04] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D26 uploaded
[20:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Bump release 0.4.3: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D26
[22:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> also aded screengrab to seed https://phab.lubuntu.me/D27
[22:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] added screen grab to seed since upstream wants to remove lximage-qt screenshot functionality soon https://github.com/lxqt/screengrab/issues/42: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D27
[23:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#1869
[23:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T84: Change default screenshot utility to screengrab from lximage-qt.] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T84#1872
[23:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T84: Change default screenshot utility to screengrab from lximage-qt.] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) edited a message on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T84#1872
[23:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T84: Change default screenshot utility to screengrab from lximage-qt.] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) edited a message on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T84#1872