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 hola
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 Why there is no option to block call and message in UT?
 Which messenger do you suggest for ubport, fluffy chat or umatrix
 @deedend [Which messenger do you suggest for ubport, fluffy chat or umatrix], Fluffychat is a very good app in heavy development. Umatrix was kinda of an experiment, so I'd suggest to go with FC ;)
 Ok, thanks
 @Mikeee_128 [Why there is no option to block call and message in UT?], there is a third party proprietary method - I haven't tested this though - https://f-call-dev.blogspot.com/?m=1
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[07:24] <ubptgbot> <DANIEL WARDLAW> JOEK
[07:24] <ubptgbot> <DANIEL WARDLAW> [Edit] http://bit.ly/2YKSdbK?1547
 @Mikeee_128 [Why there is no option to block call and message in UT?], Well nobody implemented it so far, thats why ^^
 @deedend [Which messenger do you suggest for ubport, fluffy chat or umatrix], Does it have Telegram??
 @CthulhuPrelate [Does it have Telegram??], yes, there's the TELEports client for Telegram
 @CthulhuPrelate [Does it have Telegram??], Yes
[10:01] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Is there a good twitter client for UT ? I found some in the app store but none of them work well.
[10:07] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @fredldotme [yes, there's the TELEports client for Telegram], Be careful though. After the last update it crashed on my Nexus 5. Was unusable. Don't know if they fixed it. Im back on the obsolete Telegram client 'cox it works without glitches.
 @mark alexa [Be careful though. After the last update it crashed on my Nexus 5. Was unusable. …], That's not normal. I never had any issues like that
 🤔thats odd. I didn't have any problem with the upgrade (I also have a nexus 5)
 Try erasing everything and reinstalling agaib
 @mark alexa [Is there a good twitter client for UT ? I found some in the app store but none o …], IIRC "Tweet" was the best client but Rudi removed it. … You can try to build a click package using this repo that Anne17 cloned: https://gitlab.com/Anne17/tweet
 In fact. Teleports is working better and better with each new update
[10:13] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> I'm not switching back right now. This client works. The only setback I see is that it's no longer being worked on. I can't expect anything new.
[10:13] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @advocatux [IIRC "Tweet" was the best client but Rudi removed it. … You can try to build a cli …], Cheers !
 👍
 @mark alexa [I'm not switching back right now. This client works. The only setback I see is t …], What about trying to understand the reason why this is happening only to you?
 Instead of throwing the towel
 @NotKit [@Javacookies haven't seen you in porting channel :)], because I haven't really tried yet 😄
 @mark alexa [I'm not switching back right now. This client works. The only setback I see is t …], Did you close TELEports before upgrading?  That may have caused an issue.  One way around it is to clear everything using the tweak tool and then reinstall.  <= When/if you're ready to try again, of course.
[12:16] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Thank you for the tip and no, I dpwnloaded the update while the client was running in the background.
 @mark alexa [Thank you for the tip and no, I dpwnloaded the update while the client was runni …], While the client was running?  You mean TELEports was still open (in the background) when you upgraded?
[12:18] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @imraniqbal [While the client was running?  You mean TELEports was still open (in the backgro …], Yep
[12:19] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Didn't occurred to me that the clirnt wont walk it off if I upgrade it under its feet.
 That's what I meant about not closing TELEports before upgrading.  You'll be able to salvage it using the method I've outlined above.  And general advice is to close apps before upgrading them, to prevent any unnecessary conflicts/corruptions.
[12:20] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Roger that.
 @mark alexa [Didn't occurred to me that the clirnt wont walk it off if I upgrade it under its …], Maybe some apps aren't affected as much.  I've noticed apps that store data in databases really need to be closed first, to prevent issues.
 But even more ideal is if the apps could close themselves before the upgrade process, but I'm not sure how easy that is to implement...
 @imraniqbal [But even more ideal is if the apps could close themselves before the upgrade pro …], Yeah this is the right solution
 It was discussed months ago with krille in the fluffy channel on matrix because the same behavior happens when updating FC
 Yep, I came across that as well.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/7jMVR7v9.webp
 Anyone who knows how I can access a web UI on my UT device over bluetooth?
 don't want to have to fiddle with wifi networks all the time (nor disconnect my phone from the "actual" wifi network to access the UI)
 so bluetooth tethering?
 if so that's not supported currently
 might be worth a feature request?
 Hi all. I wanted to ask about treble project. Is it anyhow possible to make Ubuntu touch gsi 🤔?
 the main reason iirc why there is no ut gsi for android devices is due to android drivers
 there will be a gsi for non-android linux phones iirc
 I don't get what iirc mean
 [Edit] I don't know what iirc mean
 'if i recall correctly'
 Oh
[15:46] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [the main reason iirc why there is no ut gsi for android devices is due to androi …], Google Project Treble is about gsi for android devices.
 @Fuseteam ['if i recall correctly'], But technically saying, gsi would be possible with few vendor mods, right ?
 @John (Marlin) [Google Project Treble is about gsi for android devices.], I know but I bought myself new phone, I fought some1 will make ut od sailfish there but so far no luck. I am 2 stupid to port it myself
 @John (Marlin) [Google Project Treble is about gsi for android devices.], not exactly i think
[15:47] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Hangman228 [I know but I bought myself new phone, I fought some1 will make ut od sailfish th …], New phone is bad news for UT. So far not working on devices shipping with Oreo and up.
 @John (Marlin) [New phone is bad news for UT. So far not working on devices shipping with Oreo a …], So I guess, no ut 4 me :/. Thx 4 help anyway
 @Hangman228 [So I guess, no ut 4 me :/. Thx 4 help anyway], not yet anyway
 @imraniqbal [Did you close TELEports before upgrading?  That may have caused an issue.  One w …], Not even clickable can shut down teleports all the time. When I forget to unlock my phone and bring teleports in the forground it often leaves a hanging teleports process
 Pixel 1 and 2 didn't have ut. I fought if I save 500$ for dev , some1 will port it. But so far, I got scammed
 [Edit] Pixel 1 and 2 didn't have ut. I own pixel 3xl now. I fought if I save 500$ for dev , some1 will port it. But so far, I got scammed
 @Hangman228 [I know but I bought myself new phone, I fought some1 will make ut od sailfish th …], you can learn to port as there is work being done to get android 8 and up supported we just need more brains hehehehee
 @Flohack [Not even clickable can shut down teleports all the time. When I forget to unlock …], The recent versions of `clickable` do a better job at this now.
 @Fuseteam [you can learn to port as there is work being done to get android 8 and up suppor …], I was trying to port ut for note 8. All I did was hard bricking my device. Now it just lay at shelf
 @Fuseteam [you can learn to port as there is work being done to get android 8 and up suppor …], [Edit] I was trying to port ut for note 8. All I did was hard bricking my device. Now it just lay at desk
 So I won't do it again
 and well there's at least one porter that had zero knowledge that got reasonably far
 @Hangman228 [I was trying to port ut for note 8. All I did was hard bricking my device. Now i …], aaand i kinda doubt it's unrecoverable
[15:52] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Hangman228 [I was trying to port ut for note 8. All I did was hard bricking my device. Now i …], Nice thing about Pixel is that if you have fastboot, you can bring it back to life.
 @Fuseteam [aaand i kinda doubt it's unrecoverable], Need new motherboatd I think. Odin mode is dead. No recovery and no room. Phone just vibrates after 5 sec while holding powr button
 @John (Marlin) [Nice thing about Pixel is that if you have fastboot, you can bring it back to li …], I guess but i am 2 scared after note 8.
 @Fuseteam [aaand i kinda doubt it's unrecoverable], [Edit] Need new motherboatd I think. Odin mode is dead. No recovery and no rom. Phone just vibrates after 5 sec while holding power button and die
[15:53] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Hangman228 [I guess but i am 2 scared after note 8.], I am using Pixel XL with BootleggersROM, no GAPPS, and microG.
 have you tried asking about it in the porting group btw?
 @Hangman228 [Need new motherboatd I think. Odin mode is dead. No recovery and no rom. Phone j …], have you tried asking about it in the porting group btw?
 Here! Yes. I think that admin guided me what to do and what to watch on yr
 [Edit] Here? Yes. I think that admin guided me what to do and what to watch on yr
 But when i tried it, well. You see
 no this is not the porting group
 @John (Marlin) [I am using Pixel XL with BootleggersROM, no GAPPS, and microG.], I prefere du
 Give me sec
 the porting group is @halium
[15:55] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Hangman228 [Need new motherboatd I think. Odin mode is dead. No recovery and no rom. Phone j …], You can probably pick up a used motherboard for less than $100.
 and i meant about recovering the note8
 @Fuseteam [the porting group is @halium], Isn't halium and ut, 2 different things 🤔?
 @Fuseteam [have you tried asking about it in the porting group btw?], and i meant about recovering the note8
 @Fuseteam [and i meant about recovering the note8], Nah
 I just bought new phone
[15:56] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Hangman228 [Isn't halium and ut, 2 different things 🤔?], UT is based on halium. Have to get halium working to bring up UT.
 and there not that different ut porting efforts is done via halium
 @Hangman228 [Nah], i'm sure they can help you recover it, that way you'll have a device you can experiment with rather than experimenting on your daily driver
 @John (Marlin) [UT is based on halium. Have to get halium working to bring up UT.], From what I remember, I received "live porting" video on yt. Some1 was porting ut to Nexus 4 ( or 5 ) . I started doing same thing. 3 h later after flashing rom,dead
 @Fuseteam [i'm sure they can help you recover it, that way you'll have a device you can exp …], I don't think it's possible to fix it but ill try.
 never tried is never succesfull
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Hangman228 [From what I remember, I received "live porting" video on yt. Some1 was porting u …], Of course there's a difference between porting and installing. UT is already ported to Nexus 5, which is what I have UT installed on. So if the video had you install UT for Nexus 5, of course it would brick the Note.
 @John (Marlin) [Of course there's a difference between porting and installing. UT is already por …], I was following guide with note 8 source
[16:01] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Okay
[16:02] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I'm not sure how long it will be before UT is updated to support newer phones with Oreo and up.
 the more brains to debug the sooner i guess :p
[16:08] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Hangman228 [I was following guide with note 8 source], Official porting guide is here: … https://docs.halium.org/en/latest/
 @John (Marlin) [Official porting guide is here: … https://docs.halium.org/en/latest/], Nah. I am not touching that again. All I wanted, was to ask if it's possible to port it as gsi but thx :p
[16:13] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Hangman228 [Nah. I am not touching that again. All I wanted, was to ask if it's possible to …], Yeah, too bad you got Pixel 3 XL. People are working on ports for Pixel XL and 2 XL.
 @Flohack [Not even clickable can shut down teleports all the time. When I forget to unlock …], Hmm, `$ pkill -f "teleports"` works pretty solid at my end (which is what `clickable` does), even when TELEports is inactive and the screen is locked.
 @Hangman228 [Nah. I am not touching that again. All I wanted, was to ask if it's possible to …], eeeh? i was hoping you'd recover and halium up the note 8 :p
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 Guys, what's wrong with this group? That's like 6th case on my memory when spam bot attacked ubports
 I think that one of the problems is that the group is open and the link to join the gruop is on the web page, so it can be indexed through internet
 Nothing estrange at all
 [Edit] Nothing strange at all
 But I've been in couple other groups that was open, and there was no such problem
 @noisebro [But I've been in couple other groups that was open, and there was no such proble …], they must not be interesting groups then
 @noisebro [Guys, what's wrong with this group? That's like 6th case on my memory when spam …], That wasn't a bot, that was a user and they've been banned :)
 @advocatux [That wasn't a bot, that was a user and they've been banned :)], Are you sure? There was a trick that allowed to use user api (not bot api), so a bot could look like a user
 @noisebro [Are you sure? There was a trick that allowed to use user api (not bot api), so a …], don't worry about it
 @dohbee [don't worry about it], As you say Deckard :3
 @Hangman228 [I was trying to port ut for note 8. All I did was hard bricking my device. Now i …], How far did you get?
 @Fuseteam [and well there's at least one porter that had zero knowledge that got reasonably …], That was me actually lol
 @Hangman228 [I just bought new phone], I happen to have repair firmware for a note 8, is yours a snapdragon or exynos variant cause that makes a difference
 @Tygerpro [I happen to have repair firmware for a note 8, is yours a snapdragon or exynos v …], Snap doesnt have open bootloader = cant do shit
 @Tygerpro [How far did you get?], I aint dev. I am just a dumdum who want something and have money. End up bricking phone😂😂
 @Tygerpro [I happen to have repair firmware for a note 8, is yours a snapdragon or exynos v …], [Edit] Snap doesnt have open bootloader = cant do anything
 @Hangman228 [I aint dev. I am just a dumdum who want something and have money. End up brickin …], I wouldnt call myself smart, but when i started my galaxy note 4 port, I knew absolutely nothing about porting, I managed to get a GUI on UT with it, had a few bricks along the way as well, I currently daily a note 8 but its snapdragon so Im
[18:26] <ubptgbot>  not trying to do much with it for now, I can always try to help you along
 I have repair firmware for a note 8 as well, I can always link you to it and see if you can get your note 8 working again
 @Tygerpro [I wouldnt call myself smart, but when i started my galaxy note 4 port, I knew ab …], Like I wrote before. My note 8 is lying in at the desk.... or else. After I bought pixel 3 xl, I gave up on porting stuff. 2 scared of breaking
 Well that is a possibility when your learning, but I bet it can be brought back
 After changing/fixing motherboard, yes. But ... Just no
 Thats all I'll say 😂
 I mean without going the whole new motherboard route, there are different modes for a note 8 to boot into
 Odin = no respond
 No recovery
 No system
 Phone just vibrate after 5 sec of holding power
 And ... no reaction
 Odin only works in download mode which requires a button combo not just the power button
 Exynos doesnt support fastboot
 @Tygerpro [Odin only works in download mode which requires a button combo not just the powe …], I know
 I am not that retarded 😂
 Lol, wasnt implying, at least wasnt trying to
 Out of curiosity do you still have the work that you did for your note 8?
 I had it on ubuntu while dual booting. I guess I still have it on external harddrive ( booting drive ) . I can boot into it later and check
 Theres also a EDL mode that arm devices have, Im not sure how to get a note 8 into that mode, but I do recall reading about it
 @Hangman228 [I had it on ubuntu while dual booting. I guess I still have it on external hardd …], Ok, I would like to take a look at your fstab file and see if I can figure out what happened
 @Hangman228 [Odin = no respond], Does your note 8 boot into download mode?
 Odin = odin mode = download mode
 I understand, but when you say odin doesnt respond, its not very clear, does the software not see the note 8 or does the note 8 not enter download mode
 Maybe again
 Download mode doesnt start at all. No led or anyrhing
 No recovery = same as download
 and no rom
 Ok, there is a method that can be employed to fix it, but it requires some knowledge to use
 Holding power make phone vibrate after 5 sec for 0,5 0 1 sec
 [Edit] Holding power make phone vibrate after 5 sec for 0,5 - 1 sec
 @Tygerpro [Ok, there is a method that can be employed to fix it, but it requires some knowl …], Like I said before, I just dont care ;)
 Ok, was just curious, Id be happy to pick up where you left off, but I dont have a exynos note 8 sadly, just a snapdragon
 Let it die in peace 😂
 Lol
 @Tygerpro [Ok, was just curious, Id be happy to pick up where you left off, but I dont have …], I dont think that will help. I just spend around 30 min copying what I saw on video with Ivan's source
 Well I can pickup where you left by using your manifest, and any other parts that Id find useful
 I'll try to boot on that harddrive ( if I still have ubuntu there ) and send what I find. Its 9pm and I am just lazy 😂, sory
 And quick question
 Will you need Ivan;s source for that?
 [Edit] Will you need Ivan's source for that?
 Not really, just the manifest and I can go from there
 And any files you changed with your port if you want me to try and see what happened with tours
 [Edit] And any files you changed with your port if you want me to try and see what happened with yours
 I'll check it tomorow
 Ok, no worries
 Liveeee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucx3HjGjhYw
 we do have assisted GPS still (at least, on qcom devices)
 Hey everyone, how's it going?
 I think google is trying to break up our streaming party ;)
 @wayneoutthere [I think google is trying to break up our streaming party ;)], Shadow banned
 woot :)  unity8
 what will muliple apps open look like when you scroll through the?
 [Edit] what will muliple apps open look like when you scroll through them?
 search for app by name is *awesome*  :) i look forward to that one big time.
 @wayneoutthere [what will muliple apps open look like when you scroll through them?], same as now
 ah, ok. so just missing the 'home scope' but otherwise will scroll through as now. thanks.
 the app spread (long swipe from right) and switching between last 2 apps (short swipe from right), are roughly unchanged
 we see all of you fine
 we never lost you
 no audio
 there ya go
 Florian audio gone. HA Muted!
 Nooooo not stickers. Where can I vote?
 @Taekky [Nooooo not stickers. Where can I vote?], Go back a bit in history here
 @Flohack [Go back a bit in history here], thank you. still a newbie..
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 we haven't even moved to 5.12 yet, so i wouldn't worry about 6, when we don't even know when it will actually be released
 @Fuseteam [if so that's not supported currently], That's a bummer, will look into opening a feature request :)
 woot. Pinephone
 oh lord
 @FinlayDaG33k [oh lord], what did we do :P
 make yet another cheap phone XD
 I mean, it's not too bad but the RAM and eMMC are fairly low...
 'cheap' puts more phones in more hands.  simple as that IMHO
 a cheap android/ios exit
 Yes they do... but there already exist plenty of them... so outside of the Pine64 branding, I don't see what would make this one better...
 @FinlayDaG33k [Yes they do... but there already exist plenty of them... so outside of the Pine6 …], it's not android
 It isn't a cheap Android phone that has a bootloader lock you cant remove
 but really if you don't like it then don't buy one. no need to rant about it :)
 Also, see it as a proof of concept for early developers. If this succeeds, there is no limit in improving the hardware specs
 @Flohack [Also, see it as a proof of concept for early developers. If this succeeds, there …], This, i do agree on.
 You cannot do a moonshot if you aren´t Google 😆
 @Flohack [Also, see it as a proof of concept for early developers. If this succeeds, there …], this ^
 @UniversalSuperBox [It isn't a cheap Android phone that has a bootloader lock you cant remove], Of all the cheap droids I owned, I can only think of one that can't unlock the bootloader...
 we can buy a UT device and quickly get rolling.  What happens if your N4 dies?  buy an N5? Where? this...
 @wayneoutthere [we can buy a UT device and quickly get rolling.  What happens if your N4 dies? …], Yes, that's true... … pardon my rant, I tend to think too much about the "consumer" spectrum rather than the 'developer" spectrum.
 thanks guys!
 👍🏼
 https://appear.in/ubports-chat
 thanks much
 https://whereby.com/ubports-chat
 first
 :P
 Can someone send me a telegram video note message? for testing in teleports?
 @FinlayDaG33k [Yes, that's true... … pardon my rant, I tend to think too much about the "consumer …], i suppose we need a flagship for the consumer spectrum which is probably further down the line
 @Fuseteam [i suppose we need a flagship for the consumer spectrum which is probably further …], Yea... probably
 man i love this community to think i manage to get to a point i can actually keep up with the devs to a degree _still got a long way to go tho
 [Edit] man i love this community to think i manage to get to a point i can actually keep up with the devs to a degree still got a long way to go tho
 though I think currently what makes UT "unviable" for the mainstream is the lack of 3rd party support... … mean, if Facebook, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Instagram etc. would bring their apps to UT it would be a lot easier to get people to UT...
 it's the main reason why I swapped back to Android anyways... a lot of the apps I "needed" (read: others force me to use) don't really run on UT
 there is supports those companies just haven't made app for ut
 [Edit] there is 3rd party app support those companies just haven't made app for ut
 the reason they cite would be 'not enough users'
 @Fuseteam [the reason they cite would be 'not enough users'], Which turns it all into a chicken or egg scenario :\
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 @FinlayDaG33k [though I think currently what makes UT "unviable" for the mainstream is the lack …], I find the Sailbook and Pesbuk webapps for Facebook on UT are better than what I had for Facebook on Andriod - and the UT webapps won't do things like turn on microphone without your explicit permission
 @FinlayDaG33k [though I think currently what makes UT "unviable" for the mainstream is the lack …], [Edit] I find the Sailbook and Pesbuk webapps for Facebook on UT are better than what I had for Facebook on Android - and the UT webapps won't do things like turn on microphone without your explicit permission
 True, but that's still only Facebook :\ … And oddly enough, people that I know are fine with not having a Facebook app as long as they can have WhatsApp...
 Another cool thing is our youtube app keeps on playing in the background (with the right setting) which is not the for the official android apps... ;-)
 [Edit] Another cool thing is our youtube app keeps on playing in the background (with the right setting) which is not the case for the official android apps... ;-)
 [Edit] Another cool thing is our youtube app keeps on playing in the background (with the right setting) which is not the case for the official android app... ;-)
 Thx for the nice Q&A btw.
[22:43] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> Does anyone know why my phone loses connection every time I make a call?
 @hummlbach [Another cool thing is our youtube app keeps on playing in the background (with t …], I know for a fact it is possible on Android (how I often listen to music) but its either a premium feature of the official app or a alternative app feature
 Yes i was explicitly referring to the official app. And I should have said without having premium...
 @Nathan Willson [Does anyone know why my phone loses connection every time I make a call?], You mean mobile data connection?
[22:52] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> Nope all of the signal dies.
[22:53] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> @hummlbach [You mean mobile data connection?], Nope all of the signal dies.
 so you actually can't make calls?
[22:55] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> @hummlbach [so you actually can't make calls?], I cannot.
[22:56] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> I can text and surf web.
 Maybe you want to share which device and ota you're using and some logs...
[23:02] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> Nexus 5 OTA-9
[23:02] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> I don't know on the side of logs.
[23:05] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> @hummlbach [Maybe you want to share which device and ota you're using and some logs...], Nexus 5 OTA-9. I don't know on the side of logs.
 If its an issue with your installation switching the channel to rc should probably fix it. Have you had android on it before and haven't had that issue? Maybe you should join the welcome and install group.
[23:16] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Willson> How do I get to the welcome and install group?
 @Nathan Willson [How do I get to the welcome and install group?], https://t.me/WelcomePlus
 @Nathan Willson [Nope all of the signal dies.], What carrier?
 @hummlbach [Yes i was explicitly referring to the official app. And I should have said witho …], yeah, that was a strange thing to put under the premimum.