[00:02] <B|ack0p> CheetahPixie: result of glmark2 : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/36pxnK7S58/
[00:17] <CheetahPixie> B|ack0p I was gonna suggest something like furmark.
[00:17] <CheetahPixie> I want you to look out for graphical glitches.
[00:18] <mcmx> I'm on 19.04, I just did `sudo apt install python3.8` and then I did `sudo apt remove python3.7` and there's a huge list of stuff that's going to be deleted, this seems wrong. what should I do?
[00:18] <CheetahPixie> Screenshot or pastebin please.
[00:19] <mcmx> https://www.pastery.net/styssk/
[00:19] <mcmx> I guess I mis-charactarized the situation a bit
[00:19] <mcmx> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[00:19] <mcmx> is a big list
[00:20] <CheetahPixie> what else have you uninstalled recently?
[00:21] <mcmx> nothing
[00:21] <mcmx> https://www.pastery.net/aemqhq/
[00:22] <mcmx> (grepping for apt-get remove shows nothing libx11-dev a month ago)
[00:22] <mcmx> should be a colon after nothing
[00:23] <CheetahPixie> are you sure python3.7 is not essential to the system?
[00:23] <CheetahPixie> I don't believe it would be nuking X11 libraries otherwise.
[00:23] <B|ack0p> CheetahPixie: ok
[00:24] <mcmx> no I have no idea, it obviously shouldn't be but idk if ubuntu is properly set up for the next python version yet
[00:24] <mcmx> as in 3.8 and 3.7 are backwards compatible
[00:25] <B|ack0p> CheetahPixie: furmark is not compatible with linux i guess
[00:26] <CheetahPixie> ...it is
[00:26] <CheetahPixie> or at least so am I led to believe by some pages.
[00:27] <CheetahPixie> Well, gputest has a furmark equivalent.
[00:33] <B|ack0p> yes i am running gputest now
[00:33] <CheetahPixie> Furmark one?
[00:33] <B|ack0p> gputest 0.7
[00:34] <CheetahPixie> Yes, but are you running the furmark one?
[00:34] <B|ack0p> linux 64
[00:34] <CheetahPixie> Yes.
[00:34] <B|ack0p> yes furmark
[00:34] <CheetahPixie> But there are several tests.
[00:34] <CheetahPixie> Any graphical glitches?
[00:34] <B|ack0p> it shows same triangle for 3 mins
[00:34] <CheetahPixie> ...you're not running the furmark one.
[00:35] <B|ack0p> i downloaded this https://www.geeks3d.com/dl/show/392
[00:36] <CheetahPixie> Yes.
[00:36] <CheetahPixie> Again.
[00:36] <CheetahPixie> There are several tests.
[00:36] <CheetahPixie> You're running the wrong one.
[00:38] <B|ack0p> which one is correct?
[00:38] <UnixEng> What’s the question?
[00:38] <CheetahPixie> Furmark, again.
[00:39] <B|ack0p> https://www.geeks3d.com/20121113/gputest-0-2-0-cross-platform-opengl-benchmark-furmark-lands-on-linux-and-os-x/
[00:39] <B|ack0p> it addresses the version i downloaded
[00:40] <CheetahPixie> ...Look inside the folder of the thing you just downloaded.
[00:40] <CheetahPixie> There are several tests.
[00:40] <CheetahPixie> Run the furmark one.
[00:40] <B|ack0p> ok
[00:41] <B|ack0p> it was zip folder and when i extracted there is only 1 file executable which i ran
[00:41] <B|ack0p> it says gputest
[00:41] <B|ack0p> there s no furmark executable file
[00:41] <B|ack0p> all .sh or related files
[00:41] <CheetahPixie> Yes.
[00:41] <CheetahPixie> Those .sh files are stuff you can run.
[00:41] <mcmx> so how do I undo removing all these packages? or is this fine? https://www.pastery.net/styssk/
[00:41] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: Yes there are... you can launch the other tests by using "sh start_..." to launch the test
[00:41] <CheetahPixie> Exctract them all.
[00:42] <CheetahPixie> mcmx One more question: did you upgrade Ubuntu versions recently?
[00:42] <CheetahPixie> Or by hand.
[00:42] <B|ack0p> ok found
[00:42] <B|ack0p> .sh or so files
[00:42] <pragmaticenigma> .sh files
[00:42] <B|ack0p> start furmark benchmark
[00:43] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: run "sh start_furmark_benchmark_fullscreen_1920x1080.sh"
[00:43] <mcmx> no, I've been on 19.04 for a while, I ran an update (like all the update commands) like a month ago
[00:43] <B|ack0p> how can i run?
[00:43] <CheetahPixie> You were literally just told how.
[00:44] <Bashing-om> mcmx: "and 30 not upgraded." suggest that you need to ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' - then consider following the package managers advise to "autoremove" .
[00:44] <CheetahPixie> mcmx Then I have not a clue.
[00:44] <coz_> sh start_...
[00:44] <B|ack0p> in terminal
[00:44] <B|ack0p> -?\
[00:45] <coz_> bl
[00:45] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: You use the terminal to launch these applications... figured that was pretty obvious when someone gives you a text command
[00:45] <mcmx> okay thanks
[00:45] <mcmx> I'm going to reinstall python3 just to be safe...
[00:45] <coz_> B|ack0p, cd to the location of the start file,
[00:45] <B|ack0p> :~/Downloads/gputest$ start_furmark_windowed_1024x640.sh
[00:45] <B|ack0p> start_furmark_windowed_1024x640.sh: command not found
[00:46] <coz_> B|ack0p, right click that file and check permissions
[00:46] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: PUT THE EXACT TEXT I GAVE INSIDE THE QUOTES... we can't hold your hand for each and every step
[00:46] <B|ack0p> :~/Downloads/gputest$ run "start_furmark_windowed_1024x640.sh"
[00:47] <B|ack0p> Command 'run' not found, did you mean
[00:47] <mcmx> I wish there was a program that would let me specify which minor version of some other program I want, instead of having to wait until someone upgrades which minor version a major version points to
[00:47] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: I said INSIDE THE QUOTES
[00:47] <mcmx> maybe I'd call it a "managare of packages" or something
[00:47] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: "sh start_furmark_benchmark_fullscreen_1920x1080.sh"
[00:47] <mcmx> manager*
[00:48] <coz_> B|ack0p, or try ./start_furmark...........
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> coz_: Please stop
[00:48] <coz_> pragmaticenigma, beg your pardon, no
[00:49] <B|ack0p> not working
[00:49] <pragmaticenigma> coz_: You jumped in the middle and haven't been following along
[00:49] <coz_> pragmaticenigma, perhaps BUT I will not tolerate rudeness
[00:50] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: "sh start_furmark_benchmark_fullscreen_1920x1080.sh"
[00:53] <B|ack0p> pc got freeze
[00:53] <B|ack0p> i had to hard reset
[00:53] <B|ack0p> ./start... seems to be working
[00:53] <B|ack0p> let me try again
[00:54] <B|ack0p> screen resolution is not 1080p so i will try 1024 windowed
[00:54] <mcmx> CheetahPixie: about to restart my machine, if I don't come back, just know I'm cursing your name
[00:54] <mcmx> jk, thanks for the help :)
[00:56] <B|ack0p> when i run the command it gives this error but starts the test anyway: :~/Downloads/gputest$ ./start_furmark_windowed_1024x640.sh
[00:56] <B|ack0p> sh: 1: aticonfig: not found
[00:56] <B|ack0p> cat: /proc/ati/0/biosversion: No such file or directory
[00:56] <B|ack0p> is it ok?
[00:57] <B|ack0p> CheetahPixie:
[00:59] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: it is probing for drivers and configuration tools, that is saying that there are no ATI proprietary drivers installed. If you are seeing an a circular "furry" object in the middle of screen floating through what appears to be a tunnel, it is working
[01:01] <B|ack0p> CheetahPixie: it gets freezes after starts in few mins
[01:01] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: it is probing for drivers and configuration tools, that is saying that there are no ATI proprietary drivers installed. If you are seeing an a circular "furry" object in the middle of screen floating through what appears to be a tunnel, it is working
[01:02] <B|ack0p> it turns all black window
[01:02] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: that fury object is not floating, it is stable
[01:02] <B|ack0p> it shows 2-3 times and then screen turns all black without windowed mode
[01:02] <B|ack0p> it seems something wrong
[01:03] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: Yes, something is wrong, what graphics card are you using?
[01:03] <fury> I'm far from stable
[01:03] <B|ack0p> ati mobility radeon x1300
[01:03] <B|ack0p> fury: lol
[01:04] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: i know very old graphics..
[01:04] <B|ack0p> maybe it cant handle the test
[01:07] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: if it is more than 5 years old, then the experiences you have described earlier are do to the card not being able to handle the instructions the window compositor is sending
[01:08] <B|ack0p> it is 13 yrs old
[01:08] <Nizumzen> ouch
[01:09] <B|ack0p> so ubuntu doesnt support 5 yrs old machines
[01:09] <B|ack0p> 5+
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: Which is why a few people both today and in the past have suggested you look into running Lubuntu or Xubuntu. Both are developed and desiged to be more compatible with resource restrictive hardware. You had also mentioned you didn't like change. Lubuntu and Xubuntu interfaces have remained unchanged since Ubuntu 12.04. Coloring and some small style elements have been modified, but the overall experience has reamined
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> unchaged in that entire timeline
[01:10] <B|ack0p> how unchanged, they look different
[01:10] <B|ack0p> ok i will install lubuntu or debian
[01:10] <B|ack0p> debian also using gnome
[01:11] <B|ack0p> will i have similar problems with debian 10 also?
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: In of themselves they have not changed. Lubuntu tends to have a more MS Windows experience and feel, while XFCE has had a more Gnome experience and feel.
[01:11] <coz_> there is also Mate
[01:12] <mcmx> well, I no longer have an x server...
[01:12] <mcmx> it's just the TTY
[01:12] <mcmx> great
[01:12] <mcmx> haha
[01:12] <mcmx> at least my system isn't bricked, which is nice
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> mcmx: Did you run the autoremove function in apt?
[01:14] <mcmx> yup
[01:16] <mcmx> how do I reinstall all the essential x packages and stuff?
[01:16] <mcmx> like all the default Ubuntu Desktop packages?
[01:18] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: when you reinstall, do not attempt to install proprietary drivers for your system. your card is old enough that the opensource drivers included with Ubuntu and its flavors will be more than enough to use the card. You will also experience less issues with the opensource drivers with a video card that old
[01:19] <Bashing-om> mcmx: Do not know if will help - but : ' sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ' .
[01:19] <pragmaticenigma> mcmx: What Bashing-om suggests will do the trick, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that defines all the needed packages for Ubuntu desktop gui
[01:20] <mcmx> okay thanks
[01:21] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: except this annoying corruptions ubuntu working fine
[01:21] <B|ack0p> i tried 16.04-32bit it worked fine also
[01:21] <B|ack0p> i wonder what s the difference with 18.04 and later distros
[01:22] <B|ack0p> and 64bit since my cpu is 64
[01:22] <B|ack0p> when i tried 32bit my cpu was 32bit also
[01:22] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: what CPU is in that machine?
[01:23] <B|ack0p> it was core duo t2400 but upgraded to c2d t7200 few days ago
[01:23] <B|ack0p> to be able to install 64bit ubuntu but failed
[01:23] <B|ack0p> i mean installed without problem but facing these annoying corruption problems
[01:24] <B|ack0p> i have thinkpad t400 with c2d p8400 and gma45 graphics which runs 18.04 without problem
[01:24] <B|ack0p> t400 is 2008 model and current machine is 2006
[01:25] <B|ack0p> there shouldnt be such difference..
[01:25] <mcmx> and we're back, thanks guys
[01:26] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: That would lead me to believe there is something wrong with the CPU... that is to say, it might have some damage depending on how it was transported and cared for before it went into the current machine
[01:26] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: how comes?
[01:27] <B|ack0p> well i replaced thermal pads and paste but cpu is super heating
[01:27] <B|ack0p> i considered it is normal ..
[01:27] <B|ack0p> but not normal it can easily jump to 80s and i saw 97C
[01:28] <B|ack0p> it runs problems normal so i am not sure if it has problem
[01:28] <B|ack0p> i installed winxp and can play games on it
[01:28] <B|ack0p> dual booting with ubuntu now
[01:31] <coz_> B|ack0p, what pragmaticenigma said is certainly possible, I would retstart, go into the bios to be sure that CPU is rgeconiized, and check online to see if bios update is available for that motherboard
[01:31] <B|ack0p> coz_: yes bios recognises cpu and bios is up to date. it was the first thing to update bios after i bought this laptop..
[01:32] <coz_> B|ack0p, you may have to update  the bios via windows
[01:32] <B|ack0p> unfortunately bios latest update was 2011 version
[01:32] <coz_> if there is one
[01:32] <B|ack0p> coz_: i did
[01:32] <coz_> B|ack0p, ah ok
[01:32] <B|ack0p> when i first got this laptop 2-3 weeks ago win7 was installed
[01:32] <B|ack0p> and first thing when i brought home was to update bios
[01:33] <coz_> B|ack0p, was the cpu new?
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: 100'C is where failure would occur (or hopefully gets throttled down) with that specific CPU. So if it is routinely reaching 97'C then it is very likely that the CPU is trying to thermally protect itself from overheating, causing the behavior you are seeing
[01:33] <B|ack0p> then few days ago i ordered used t7200 to make it 64bit
[01:33] <B|ack0p> coz_: no it is old cpu and not new
[01:33] <B|ack0p> but bios recognises
[01:34] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: well it has been told to me t7xxx series will heat too much after t2400
[01:34] <B|ack0p> i was expecting high but not 90s
[01:34] <B|ack0p> idle is lowest 60-65 degrees
[01:35] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: the other potential issue is the motherboard may not have the voltages set correctly. Those two processors have very different voltage requirements
[01:35] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: current temps: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kx4bcpyH6J/
[01:36] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: i used some softwares to undervolt but it decreases cpu clock about half so i didnt use it
[01:36] <B|ack0p> i installed tpfan control
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: The t7200 requires more voltage, if you under voltaged that CPU, there is a high probability that it is damaged
[01:38] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: disregard the voltage difference, I misread the spec... they have different minimum voltages, they max out at the same high voltage of 1.3
[01:39] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: actually i dont know how to undervolt.. i used a software called NHC something and played some settings
[01:39] <B|ack0p> there was an option to set the voltage about 0.92 something
[01:39] <coz_> B|ack0p, out of curiosity, did you purchase this cpu online, given to you, or taken from one of your own systems?
[01:39] <B|ack0p> but when i set it , it decreases cpu clock half
[01:40] <B|ack0p> coz_: i purchased online
[01:40] <B|ack0p> beleive me i found only 2 cpus in same spec in online 2nd hand stores
[01:40] <B|ack0p> i was looking for t7600 which is max t60 supports but i could find 2 t7200
[01:41] <B|ack0p> i ordered online
[01:41] <B|ack0p> in my country
[01:41] <B|ack0p> in ebay u can find many
[01:41] <B|ack0p> but ebay doesnt work here
[01:41] <coz_> B|ack0p, always risky doing that, which country?
[01:41] <B|ack0p> TUrkey
[01:41] <coz_> ah ok
[01:41] <B|ack0p> always risky but for old cpu where can i get else*
[01:41] <B|ack0p> ?
[01:41] <coz_> B|ack0p, true
[01:41] <B|ack0p> people sell their laptop when they get old
[01:42] <B|ack0p> they dont keep cpu
[01:42] <B|ack0p> and computer stores which trade second hand keeps them
[01:42] <B|ack0p> they keep parts
[01:42] <B|ack0p> i am lucky i found t7200
[01:42] <coz_> understood
[01:42] <B|ack0p> i made it to get 64bit support and get laptop faster
[01:42] <B|ack0p> and it got faster but more heat
[01:43] <B|ack0p> ubuntu 16.04 - 32bit ran very laggy with original cpu t2400
[01:43] <coz_> B|ack0p, and did you try ubuntu 16.04 with the cpu?
[01:43] <B|ack0p> and this cpu is lagging on winxp if i connect to internet and open some tabs on firefox
[01:44] <B|ack0p> but in ubuntu it is fine. i can even watch youtube in 1080p
[01:44] <B|ack0p> coz_: i tried live usb
[01:44] <B|ack0p> i fresh installed 19.04 but same
[01:45] <B|ack0p> 04:37 < pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: The t7200 requires more voltage, if you under voltaged that CPU, there is a high probability that it is damaged
[01:45] <B|ack0p> ops sorry
[01:45] <coz_> B|ack0p, and the live 16.04 usb, did it run well on the new cpu?
[01:45] <B|ack0p> i didnt paste it intendently
[01:45] <B|ack0p> touch pad kept it in memory i guess
[01:45] <B|ack0p> or ubuntu did it itself O.o
[01:46] <B|ack0p> coz_: yes both 16.04/18.04/19.04 runs well with live usb
[01:46] <B|ack0p> just no transparency effects noticed
[01:46] <B|ack0p> on dock and top bar
[01:46] <B|ack0p> coz_: are the temps normal? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kx4bcpyH6J/
[01:48] <coz_> B|ack0p, I dont use amd, however the highest normal temps appear tp be  95C
[01:48] <B|ack0p> it is intel cpu
[01:49] <B|ack0p> amd ati is gpu
[01:49] <coz_> B|ack0p, ah ok hold on
[01:49] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: Alpha channeling on that old of GPU is going to be very limited. The Live USB runs with the opensource drivers, which is why it appeared to run without issue. I wouldn't recommend installing any proprietary ATI specific drivers. If you're going after visual effects, the only way to fix that is to buy a newer computer (assuming this is a laptop we are working with here)
[01:50] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: lol i already have 2 more laptops..
[01:50] <B|ack0p> why i insist on this old laptop is still i dont consider it too old
[01:50] <coz_> B|ack0p, 85C for low end intel cpu, I certainly wouldnt go higher
[01:50] <B|ack0p> and problem seems small not major graphical issues..
[01:51] <coz_> B|ack0p, you are talking cpu, yes?
[01:51] <B|ack0p> coz_: with pragmaticenigma i am talking gpu but with you cpu
[01:51] <coz_> ah ok  got a better picture
[01:52] <coz_> B|ack0p, I wish you luck, I have to go
[01:52] <B|ack0p> i think problem is old ati cards have bad reputation and dont have enough support
[01:52] <B|ack0p> intel cards dont have problem even they are old
[01:53] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: The "ATI Mobility Radeon X1400" that is in that machine is best served by the opensource drivers. I have a similar class ATI card and the proprietary drivers do the same thing on my machines if I do anything but let Ubuntu run with its default opensource driver
[01:53] <B|ack0p> how will i find open source drivers*
[01:53] <B|ack0p> ?
[01:53] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: You won't get all the special desktop effects, but in my opinion better to have a machine that runs, than one that runs with glitches
[01:53] <B|ack0p> i installed mesa drivers
[01:53] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: You don't install any drivers, modprobe will use the best match it has
[01:54] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: without installing any driver, unity desktop already providing better effects
[01:54] <B|ack0p> at least no corruption with unity desktop and lightdm login
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: exactly, which means don't worry about installing any graphics drivers for that machine. What ubuntu already has built in, is good enough for your machine
[01:54] <B|ack0p> but unity feels a bit heavy comparing gnome
[01:55] <B|ack0p> pragmaticenigma: what do u think about not viewing on screen indicator symbols such as volume controls ?
[01:55] <B|ack0p> that s another issue
[01:55] <B|ack0p> indicator symbols not appearing
[01:56] <B|ack0p> not even in unity
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: Live without them, if the software buttons at least perform there function, then I'd leave it there
[01:56] <B|ack0p> yes volume buttons works but it is difficult to get which level of sound i have
[01:56] <B|ack0p> i d like to see
[01:58] <B|ack0p> coz_ thanks by the way.. late
[01:59] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: For ubuntu 18.04 and up, Unity isn't being developed by Canonical anymore. It's now a community effort, you can try the #ubuntu-unity channel for help there and see if they have some options for you
[01:59] <B|ack0p> only 21 ppl in there
[02:00] <B|ack0p> other desktops also not developed by canonical
[02:00] <B|ack0p> xfce kde ..etc
[02:00] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: You're now moving off topic
[02:01] <B|ack0p> ok sorry
[02:01] <pragmaticenigma> B|ack0p: It's not the number of people in a room that you should be concerned about, but the quality of the answers that can be provided. I'm offering a resource that appears to be better suited for your question
[02:01] <B|ack0p> thanks i will ask but later..
[02:02] <B|ack0p> it s very late here i will go soon
[02:02] <B|ack0p> thank you for your helps really
[02:07] <B|ack0p> ok good nite all
[02:07] <B|ack0p> thanks for your supports
[02:07] <B|ack0p> and helps
[02:17] <transhumanist> Hi! VNC-server to vnc-client gets black screen server is on ubuntu 18.04 client is on windows 10
[02:17] <transhumanist> thanks in advance
[02:18] <pragmaticenigma> transhumanist: what VNC service are you using on Ubuntu?
[02:20] <transhumanist> tightvncserver and xrp
[02:20] <transhumanist> xrdp
[02:22] <pragmaticenigma> transhumanist: what program are you using for a client on Windows... xrdp is not VNC, tightvncserver and xrdp provide two very differnt services
[02:22] <transhumanist> vnc viewer
[02:22] <transhumanist> or windows rdp client neither works
[02:23] <transhumanist> I would take any known good directions
[02:23] <transhumanist> so if you can recommend directions that work for any of them then please share...thanks!
[02:23] <pragmaticenigma> transhumanist: pick one or the other...
[02:23] <transhumanist> I have tried like 6 different sets of directions
[02:24] <pragmaticenigma> To start, Ubuntu Desktop comes with a VNC server already preinstalled and ready to go. It sometimes neesd a small settings file tweak to work with remote VNC clients
[02:25] <transhumanist> really? ok I will look for directions for built in vnc server for ubuntu
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> transhumanist: If you have installed any VNC servers or RDP servers, uninstall them first... trying one thing, failing and then going on to the next means that you probably have conflicting configurations
[02:27] <transhumanist> ok will do thanks
[02:59] <WaV> I believe what he was trying to say was he was connecting via rdp and xrdp was forwarding to whatever port tightvnc is listening on, but he couldn't get it working.
[02:59] <WaV> I was ironically just reading a thread on that.
[04:54] <ben-linux23> hello all i installed ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS on my hp probook 4530s laptop and i removed gnome because i HATE gnome3 with a dang passion and re-installed unity and now i cant login to my desktop i checked the xorg.0.log it didnt tell me any errors and i can get to lightdm but that's all and now im stuck in a tty talking to you all, so idk what to do
[04:54] <ben-linux23> im totally lost as how to log back into unity
[04:55] <ben-linux23> and i DONT wanna re-install gnome3
[04:55] <ben-linux23> and no offense but saying "just re-install gnome" won't help that wont give me what i need/want
[04:57] <ben-linux23> and i was following a guide on ubuntuforums for how to re-add unity
[05:00] <ben-linux23> *sighs* i guess no one can even tell im in here..
[05:01] <Bashing-om> !patience | ben-linux23
[05:02] <ben-linux23> i've been waiting for almost..10 mins, that's rather frustrating sorry
[05:02] <ben-linux23> and btw this IS my main machine
[05:03] <Bashing-om> ben-linux23: No help here from me - but consider that most in the US are now Asleep and in Europe they have yet to wake up :P
[05:03] <ben-linux23> yeah i understand..
[05:04] <ben-linux23> i just dont have access to another laptop/tower to google/forum check this issue, nor my phone cuz my phone is charging at like 1% rn
[05:09] <Bashing-om> ben8472: I do not run Gnome nor Unity - but let me see what I can find for us :)
[05:19] <Bashing-om> ben8472: Might make sure Unity is set from this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Greeter .
[05:42] <cfoch> Hello... could you help here with an issue when trying to shrink my Fedora partition from Ubuntu?
[06:06] <cfoch> nvm
[07:06] <CheetahPixie> this is... unusually little traffic
[07:12] <magic_ninja> So I was looking at Gnome-boxes.
[07:13] <magic_ninja> Is there any way to get some advanced VM config? It doesn't even let you select where the VM file and disk is stored.
[07:23] <feodoran> How does `check-language-support` know which languages are "supposed" to be installed? My system language is en, but it lists de as well. How do I remove a language from that list?
[07:43] <EoflaOE> feodoran: Pastebin the output of "sudo apt list language-pack-*"
[07:44] <feodoran> EoflaOE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TVHnmN566p/
[07:46] <EoflaOE> feodoran: Can you go to "Language support", press the "Install and remove languages", and untick the box which is Deutsch or German?
[07:47] <feodoran> Where do I find ""language support"? Is that a gnome thing? I am using KDE ...
[07:48] <EoflaOE> feodoran: Let me see the alternative for it, or a command. One moment.
[07:50] <EoflaOE> feodoran: You can install language-selector-gnome to get it.
[07:52] <feodoran> ok, but how do I run it? language-selector-gnome does not seem to be the name of the binary
[07:52] <feodoran> ok it is gnome-language-selector
[07:53] <EoflaOE> OK. Did you see Deutsch or German on the list?
[07:53] <feodoran> no it is not enabled
[07:54] <feodoran> I guess that is the point: it is not enabled/installed. but for some reason it wants to install that
[07:54] <EoflaOE> Let me look some more.
[07:55] <feodoran> my "regional format" is german, which is what I want. but not the languages
[07:55] <EoflaOE> OK. Got it.
[08:05] <cyanide> i have two text files, with similar content but on different lines, plus some additions. is there any software that can just find the differences between the two (additions) without including the same stuff but on different lines?
[08:05] <cyanide> the files basically consist of my streaming playlists on two different services (exported to txt)
[08:06] <cyanide> so the format is <band> - <song name>
[08:06] <cyanide> but the same songs are on different lines in the text files, so a simple diff tool won't work
[08:09] <EoflaOE> feodoran: Do you mean that you want to remove "de" language from the list, but keep "de" as the regional settings?
[08:15] <feodoran> EoflaOE: I am not sure what list exactly this is, but I guess yes
[08:15] <magic_ninja_work> anyone familiar with gnome boxes? I'm looking at trying to do some more advanced configuration.
[08:15] <feodoran> the point is: the current setup is fine, but it wants to install some more language packages, which I just don't need
[08:15] <magic_ninja_work> It seems very simplistic. I can't even select where a virtual disk is stored.
[08:16] <feodoran> I just want it to stop asking to install those packages
[08:27] <EoflaOE> feodoran: OK. So everytime you install a package using apt it wants to install the language pack? You can put the language pack on hold.
[08:39] <feodoran> EoflaOE: no, everytime I reboot I get some annoying notification about "incomplete language support"
[08:58] <Nebi> hi, im in big trouble after upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04. First only graphic wasnt working. After trying to upgrade with fix missing i rebboted and now do not have ant internet. Not even connection via lan cable.
[08:58] <EoflaOE> feodoran: So do you want to remove this notification without installing support for Deutsch? Or for all of them?
[08:59] <feodoran> EoflaOE: yes
[08:59] <Nebi> sudo lspci | grep Network At first gave me three results. Now it only gives back  network controller intel... 7265
[09:00] <EoflaOE> feodoran: OK. But without all language pack support or only Deutsch?
[09:00] <Nebi> there was previously some realtek card
[09:02] <feodoran> EoflaOE: the general idea of this thing looks good: stuff like "thunderbird-locale-en" could be useful. So I would need to configure the list of languages it is looking for. Which is why I asked where that list is coming from.
[09:02] <Nebi> rtl8111/8168/8411. Actually i saw a post with installing new drivers for it. But now that even elementary lan cable connection is not working im in despair.
[09:03] <feodoran> "this thing" being `check-language-support`
[09:05] <Nebi> Does someone know what i could do?
[09:11] <Nebi> Uh oh. Nobody?
[09:11] <feodoran> Nebi: just a wild guess (I don't really know what I am talking about here): since your graphics is somehow linked to the network controller I am guessing you have some kind of onboard graphics based on your chipset? Maybe something about your driver upgrade went wrong? Maybe try again or a different version?
[09:12] <Nebi> but how if i dont have internet?
[09:13] <Nebi> shall i maybe boot with a flash drive ?
[09:13] <feodoran> download the package on a different system and use a USB drive to transfer
[09:14] <EoflaOE> Nebi: Pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C network and see if it prints anything.
[09:16] <Nebi> ah, im happy, yes it prints the three devices from before. Two are "unclaimed". Cannot pastebin though. Ill try to find a solution via usb...
[09:19] <EoflaOE> Nebi: You can pipe the output of a command to a file to move it to a flash drive using "sudo lshw -C network >& test.txt"
[09:24] <jeremy31> Nebi: what does this command show>   mokutil --sb-state
[09:25] <Nebi> pastebin.com/Du1nP6y2
[09:26] <Nebi> jeremy31 secureboot disabled
[09:27] <jeremy31> nebi, try>  sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi
[09:27] <jeremy31> Nebi: also    sudo modprobe r8169
[09:28] <Nebi> jeremy31 error could not find module by name iwlwifi, error could not insert iwlwifi
[09:29] <Nebi> jeremy31 fatal r8169 not found...
[09:29] <jeremy31> Nebi: sudo modprobe r8168
[09:29] <Nebi> jeremy31 the same error
[09:30] <jeremy31> Nebi: can you use grub to boot into an older kernel?
[09:30] <Nebi> yes he offered me a long list. Around v4.4. ...
[09:31] <Nebi> shall i reboot in one of those?
[09:31] <jeremy31> Nebi: try the highest number 4.4 kernel
[09:32] <Nebi> ok thats 4.4.0-157 generic im booting
[09:32] <jeremy31> Nebi: I think your new kernel may not have installed all the module packages
[09:33] <EoflaOE> jeremy31: Do you have linux-firmware installed? Check by "sudo apt list linux-firmware". If it shows [installed], that means it's installed.
[09:34] <jeremy31> EoflaOE: linux-firmware doesn't contain iwlwifi.ko or r8169.ko
[09:35] <EoflaOE> jeremy31: OK.
[09:35] <Nebi> ahhh internet back. Wifi doesnt work but cable. Graphics not working either
[09:36] <Nebi> Linux firmware bionic 1.173
[09:37] <jeremy31> nebi, run>  sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi
[09:37] <Nebi> Nothing but also no error
[09:37] <jeremy31> nebi, check   lsmod | grep iwlwifi
[09:38] <Nebi> shall i try to install rtlwifi_new? I saw this in a post
[09:38] <EoflaOE> Nebi: OK. Let me know what is your kernel version. uname -a will help.
[09:38] <jeremy31> nebi, no as you have intel wifi
[09:40] <jeremy31> Nebi: URL from terminal for> dpkg -l | egrep 'linux-image|linux-module' | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:42] <jeremy31> nebi, this might be easier>  sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[09:43] <Nebi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z93ydMbSn2/
[09:46] <Nebi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2nsM8RpK8X/
[09:48] <EoflaOE> Nebi: OK. What's your Ubuntu version?
[09:49] <Nebi> It is now 18.04 (previously 16.04)
[09:49] <Nebi> the dpkg command did nit gve me anything back
[09:49] <jeremy31> nebi, this might be easier>  sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[09:50] <Nebi> ok im trying now treinstall
[09:51] <Nebi> okz and now?
[09:51] <Nebi> reboot?
[09:51] <jeremy31> Nebi: yes
[09:52] <Nebi> and while rebboting i just let him rebbot without selecting a kernel?
[09:54] <jeremy31> Nebi: yes, let it boot on its own
[09:54] <Nebi> ok i did. Wifi is now also working. Graphics is last thing :)
[09:56] <jeremy31> ok, Nebi I am not good with graphics, good luck
[09:56] <Nebi> Thank you very much Jeremy this already helped me out a lot!!!
[09:57] <Nebi> so i shouldnt hit sudo apt upgrade right?
[09:57] <EoflaOE> Nebi: what is your GPU?
[09:57] <Nebi> cause i didnt do dist-upgrade yesterday
[09:57] <jeremy31> Nebi: It may be helpful to join this chat with the other machine.  sudo apt upgrade should be fine
[09:58] <Nebi> nvidia gtx 1050 mobile
[09:59] <Surfer2011> hello is anyone using the openmediavault system?
[10:00] <EoflaOE> Nebi: How exactly do you experience about the graphics issue?
[10:02] <Nebi> Its not loading at all (login screen) he automatically loads into terminal mode
[10:04] <EoflaOE> Nebi: Is lightdm and ubuntu-desktop installed?
[10:04] <EoflaOE> gdm*
[10:06] <Nebi> hmm there might be sth with ubuntu-desktop. Sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop gives an error of deoendencies gdm3 and gnome-shell
[10:07] <EoflaOE> Nebi: Pastebin the complete output of "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" so I can see the exact error.
[10:08] <Nebi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zRwYcPCSJH/
[10:10] <EoflaOE> Nebi: OK. What about the output of "sudo apt install gdm3" and "sudo apt install gnome-shell" as separate pastes?
[10:11] <deadrom> hi
[10:13] <deadrom> used to have a thinkpad T530 on a dock with 2 external display which worked charm regarding suspend-to-ram and wakeup. now switched to a Dell Precision M4800 and.. suspending works, but on wake-up usually it has to rediscover the USB key/mouse and occasionally forgets one screen. Appreciate advice on what and where I can tweak here
[10:19] <Nebi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SnqGvtg9vC/
[10:19] <Nebi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gxPYrzHKHf/
[10:22] <EoflaOE> Nebi: OK. The pastebin of "sudo apt install mutter gir1.2-mutter-2 libmutter-2.0" to see if there are any other errors.
[10:27] <Nebi_> Yes, it continues like this. libegl1. then i do this with that one. libegl-mesa0 and libegl-vendor and then I do libgbm1
[10:27] <Nebi_> For libgbm1 the road stops.
[10:27] <Nebi_> it says it is already the newest and lists me about a 100 packages that are apparently not required
[10:29] <EoflaOE> Nebi_: OK. Does "sudo apt -f install" fix dependencies?
[10:31] <Nebi_> No, he lists again the entire list of those 100 dependencies that are not required but didn't update or upgrade anything
[10:34] <Nebi_> (does someone know how to insert an output from a command (like a URL from pastebinit) into weechat if there is no mouse/graphical display? I can save it to a file but this also doesnt help in this context :) )
[10:35] <Nebi_> (just asking because this would accelerate the isnerting of pastebin URLs)
[10:37] <EoflaOE> Nebi_: Can you try "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt full-upgrade"? When they succeed, retry installing ubuntu-desktop again.
[10:38] <Nebi_> OK, I'm on it
[10:40] <EriC^> Nebi_: /exec -o command should output the stuff in the window
[10:44] <Nebi_> EriC^: Thank you! Efficiency just increased by 1000% :)
[10:44] <EriC^> :)
[10:47] <murlidhar> hello all. i tried many extensions but i am still not able to remove title bar from many applications even after installing gnome shell extension called unite
[10:48] <murlidhar> using 19.04 currently
[10:49] <EoflaOE> Nebi_: Finished?
[10:49] <murlidhar> tried using no title bar extension too and it didn't me the desired results.
[10:49] <OerHeks> murlidhar, the gnome page suggests it needs x11-utils as dependencie
[10:49] <OerHeks> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1287/unite/
[10:49] <murlidhar> OerHeks: doesn't ubuntu run on x11-utils by default ?
[10:50] <OerHeks> maybe not..
[10:50] <murlidhar> this unite works on apps like firefox but doesn't work on most apps like terminal too
[10:50] <murlidhar> hmmm
[10:50] <OerHeks> !info x11-utils
[10:50] <murlidhar>  okay
[10:50] <OerHeks> optional
[10:50] <EoflaOE> murlidhar: "sudo apt install x11-utils"
[10:52] <murlidhar> x11-utils is already the newest version (7.7+4).
[10:53] <murlidhar> truly baffles me why it works on some apps and doesn't on some
[10:53] <OerHeks> maybe firefox holds on to its own theming?
[10:53] <murlidhar> say like terminal . it doesn't . it doesn't hide the title bar . just moves the buttons to the status bar and nothing else.
[10:54] <murlidhar> i still the big fat bar :|
[10:54] <murlidhar> see*
[10:55] <Nebi_> EoflaOE: No, its at 63%
[10:56] <EoflaOE> Nebi_: OK. Tell me when finished.
[10:58] <shibboleth> these systemd updates that keep getting pushed as non-security?
[10:59] <murlidhar> am i missing something out ? why is the unite extension working for firefox when it has it own themeing and other apps that use gtk doesn't work ?
[10:59] <murlidhar> gnome is using gtk :|
[10:59] <murlidhar> i mean gnome shell extentions should work on gtk apps
[11:00] <Nebi_> EoflaOE: I'll do! Thank you for helping!
[11:00] <EoflaOE> Nebi_: You are welcome.
[11:01] <murlidhar> brb
[11:07] <murlidhar> using unity right now and the maximise works perfectly fine in terminal right now. it removes the title bar and all the menus and title names are in the status bar right now
[11:08] <Nebi_> EoflaOE: OK, he crashed when installing at about 30%. dpkg deb error with texlive-fonts something
[11:08] <murlidhar> it is more practical on small screens because you get to utilize the workable space more effectively. wonder why gnome hasn't thought of this feature when more an more screens are smaller now!
[11:08] <OerHeks> murlidhar, oh, gnome-shell extention on unity ...
[11:09] <murlidhar> no.
[11:09] <Nebi_> Sorry, try again.
[11:09] <Nebi_> 5j
[11:09] <Nebi_> Sorry, try again.
[11:09] <murlidhar> logged in  using unity session OerHeks
[11:09] <Nebi_> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[11:10] <Nebi_> hlp55pa55jo85
[11:10] <murlidhar> OerHeks: if you scroll up a few lines you will know what problems am i having in gnome shell especially when maximising a window.
[11:10] <murlidhar> sorry for my english . isn't my default language.
[11:11]  * murlidhar is from india
[11:11] <Nebi_> Sorry, try again.
[11:11] <Nebi_> Sorry, try again.
[11:11] <Nebi_> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[11:11] <Nebi_> a[a
[11:11] <jeremy31> Nebi_: try typing password in terminal
[11:12] <Nebi_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[11:12] <Nebi_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:13] <jeremy31> Nebi_: did you run the command using /exec from chat?  Some commands might work better in terminal itself
[11:14] <Nebi_> Yes, I was trying to output the pastebinit, sorry
[11:14] <murlidhar> brb
[11:15] <Nebi_> paste.ubuntu.com/p/T436vJrsmh
[11:16] <EoflaOE> Nebi_: Do you, by any chance, installed any PPA? And hi BluesKaj
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:17] <BluesKaj> hi EoflaOE
[11:18] <jeremy31> Nebi_: sudo apt install inxi
[11:18] <jeremy31> Nebi_: then> inxi -rC0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:18] <Nebi_> EoflaOE: Could be that I installed one yesterday but I'm not sure.
[11:19] <jeremy31> Nebi_: then> inxi -rc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:19] <Nebi_> installing inxi also didn't work
[11:20] <EoflaOE> Nebi_: To be sure, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list && cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:21] <Nebi_> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20170215.2)]/ xenial main restricted
[11:21] <Nebi_>  
[11:21] <Nebi_> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[11:21] <Nebi_> # newer versions of the distribution.
[11:22] <Nebi_> deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted
[11:22] <Nebi_> # deb-src http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted
[11:22] <jeremy31> no
[11:22] <EoflaOE> Nebi_: Not here. Pastebin.
[11:22] <jeremy31> EoflaOE: I think /exec -o was used
[11:23] <jeremy31> It doesn't pipe correctly to pastebin at times
[11:23] <Nebi_>  
[11:23] <Nebi_> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
[11:23] <Nebi_> ## 'partner' repository.
[11:23] <EoflaOE> jeremy31: OK.
[11:23] <Nebi_> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
[11:23] <Nebi_> ## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
[11:23] <Nebi_> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner
[11:23] <jeremy31> Nebi_: quit weechat and connect again to clear the buffer
[11:24] <jeremy31> EoflaOE: wrong entries in sources for updating to 18.04
[11:25] <EoflaOE> jeremy31: Ok.
[11:27] <EoflaOE> By the way can you remind me of a command which prints the boot time from the kernel to the login screen?
[11:28] <jeremy31> EoflaOE: I don't remember
[11:28] <alkyone> systemd-analyze?
[11:28] <OerHeks> journalctl -b -0 shows messages from the current boot, journalctl -b -1 from the previous boot
[11:28] <Nebi> Hi again. sorry for the mess
[11:28] <jeremy31> Nebi: you did update to 18.04?
[11:29] <EoflaOE> Thanks OerHeks and alkyone.
[11:29] <Nebi> Yes: I did yesterday an sudo apt-get upgrade and I ended up having 18.04 instea fo 16.04
[11:29] <jeremy31> Nebi: the part of the sources list we did see still show 16.04
[11:31] <EoflaOE> Nebi: You might need to switch "xenial" for "bionic" for complete upgrade.
[11:31] <Nebi> EoFlaOE: you mean to replace in that file "xenial" by "bionic"?
[11:32] <EoflaOE> Nebi: Yes, to get all 18.04 packages and upgrade to it completely. Is that what you need?
[11:32] <Nebi> EoflaOE: If it works afterwards then yes :)
[11:32] <Nebi> OK, im on it
[11:33] <EoflaOE> Nebi: When finished, ping me.
[11:35] <Nebi> EoflaOE yes, i replaced all strings. Hopefully it works as there is also bionic-cran bionic-security etc
[11:36] <LordDoskias> how is one supposed to upgrade drivedb of smartmontools since update-smart-drivedb is not included?
[11:36] <LordDoskias> can i just download the drivedb.h file?
[11:36] <EoflaOE> OK. Hope it works. By the way what does lsb-release -r say?
[11:37] <Nebi> EoflaOE it says 18.04
[11:38] <EoflaOE> Nebi: OK. Is it upgrading now?
[11:39] <Nebi> Reading package lists...
[11:39] <Nebi> Building dependency tree...
[11:39] <Nebi> Reading state information...
[11:39] <Nebi> You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
[11:39] <Nebi> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:39] <Nebi>  libboost-context-dev : Depends: libboost-context1.58-dev but it is not installable
[11:42] <ioria> !info libboost-context1.58-dev
[11:42] <ioria> !info libboost-context1.58-dev  xenial
[11:42] <Nebi> sorry again, I thought pastebinit would work now. So upgrade didn't work. It recommended fit broken install
[11:42] <ioria> Nebi, that pkg it's not in bionic anymore
[11:43] <ioria> !info libboost-context1.65-dev
[11:44] <jeremy31> Nebi: did you do a sudo apt update after changing sources file?
[11:44] <jeremy31> please don't use /exec -o
[11:45] <Nebi> jeremy31: yes, i did a sudo apt update afterwards. No I'm never again using /exec -o
[11:47] <Nebi> Shall I try fix broken install?
[11:47] <EoflaOE> Nebi: See if it does anything.
[11:48] <Nebi> No it ended quickly with an error again of texlive-fonts...
[11:49] <tomreyn> IIRC the textlive-fonts package is broken
[11:52] <tomreyn> texlive-fonts-extra rather
[11:53] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texlive-extra/+bugs lists several packaging related issues.
[11:54] <tomreyn> Nebi: if you're trying to solve this still, please post:   sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[11:54] <tomreyn> also    nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[12:02] <Nebi> termbin.com/u9um
[12:04] <Nebi> termbin.com/veax
[12:04] <OerHeks> wine, webupd8, ubuntu-toolchaim, audi-dev.. a ppa-circus
[12:05] <OerHeks> even lucid/partner repos..
[12:08] <Nebi> there was a typo in the first one: termbin.com/htoz
[12:11] <Nebi> shall I remove or purge texlive for a starters?
[12:12] <Nebi> OerHeks: Concerning the lucid one: yes, there was once a package I needed and that was not available for xenial
[12:13] <ioria> i'd check first my sources.list
[12:13] <OerHeks> ioria, have fun with termbin.com/htoz
[12:14] <ioria> OerHeks, yeah
[12:19] <EoflaOE> Nebi: Are you removing lucid partner repos?
[12:20] <Nebi> EoflaOE OK, I remove it out from the sources.list file. I do anything to repair this!
[12:21] <EoflaOE> Nebi: Ok. Pastebin the output of "sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install"
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Nebi no need to remove the deb from the sources.list, just comment the line with a # in front
[12:25] <Nebi> paste.ubuntu.com/p/XMmRnRnZhr
[12:26] <Nebi> the other command is still running
[12:27] <EoflaOE> Nebi: OK. Three repos that you have aren't signed.
[12:27] <EoflaOE> But waiting for the other command to produce pastebin.
[12:32] <ioria> universe and multiverse ?
[12:33] <tomreyn> this is 18.04.*0*
[12:34] <tomreyn> kernel from april last year
[12:34] <tomreyn> consider reinstalling
[12:35] <ice9> how to mirror desktop to smart tv?
[12:36] <EoflaOE> ice9: Is your port HDMI or DP?
[12:36] <ice9> EoflaOE, i got HDMI but i want to do it over wifi
[12:40] <tomreyn> so WDS / Miracast
[12:40] <Nebi> paste.ubuntu.com/p/YqNtDdQ9n3/
[12:42] <ioria> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/texlive-fonts-extra-doc_2017.20180305-2_all.deb
[12:42] <tomreyn> ice9: first first out what your smart tv supports there, then see if you can find an implementation on ubuntu. here's what's available in terms of WDS: https://github.com/intel/wds
[12:43] <tomreyn> *first find out
[12:43] <EoflaOE> "sudo apt -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" full-upgrade" in case this error appears in multiple packages.
[12:44] <Nebi> ioria: paste.ubuntu.com/p/yXcjFzYtkj/
[12:45] <ioria> Nebi, did you run the cmd ?
[12:46] <Nebi> ioria: yes the command you posted with dpkg
[12:47] <Nebi> EoflaOE: that command somehow didn't work for me. Im looking again for some typos
[12:47] <ioria> Nebi, and that's the output ?
[12:48] <Nebi> ioria: ?m gonna check
[12:48] <ioria> again :   sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/texlive-fonts-extra-doc_2017.20180305-2_all.deb
[12:49] <Nebi> Ioria: Ah its a pastebinit issue.
[12:50] <ioria> Nebi, sy, afk, good luck
[12:50] <Nebi> Ioria: OK, thanks.
[12:51] <Nebi> it says dependency problems
[12:51] <EoflaOE> Nebi: Ok. After installing this dpkg, can you retry upgrading? Use the command that I posted above.
[12:52] <tomreyn> it helps a lot to have direct or remote access to the system you're trying to fi when you're on the support chat here. i.e. consider connecting to it via ssh or join the chat from the system to be fixed using irrsi (if temrinal only) or https://webchat.freenode.net/ubuntu (or hexchat) on a GUI.
[12:52] <tomreyn> *fiX
[12:54] <Nebi> EOflaOE: paste.ubuntu.com/p/kSksJDxtWp/
[12:55] <Nebi> Ok, im having 6 more minutes, then I have to run on the train.
[12:55] <Nebi> Shall I come on another time?
[12:56] <EoflaOE> Nebi: You can come on anytime.
[12:56] <Nebi> tomreyn: So I better install irrsi instead of weechat?
[12:57] <Nebi> Im terribly sorry for this messy situation. I'm trying to learn where I can so that something like that doesn't occur again.
[12:58] <EoflaOE> Nebi: OK. When you can get back to your broken system you can come on.
[12:59] <Nebi> OK, thank you very much for all your help!
[12:59] <EoflaOE> You are welcome.
[12:59] <EoflaOE> Goodbye.
[12:59] <Nebi> bye
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> anyone noticed gdm3 asks password on bionic on random times, even when the user settings are set to automatic login?
[13:03] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: When you unlock your screen does it give you password prompt? Or is it randomly appearing?
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> EoflaOE: its after cold boots, randomly
[13:11] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: One detail: Does it prompt you to enter the password right after booting to desktop?
[13:12] <Surfer2011> can someone help me with rsnapshot? it creates a ton of subdirectorys in my backup folder how can i prevent this?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> EoflaOE: yes after a cold boot, it asks me a password where it should actually log me in automatic
[13:17] <EoflaOE> Pastebin the output of /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[13:20] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: http://dpaste.com/15A6GTG
[13:22] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: You should replace "AutomaticLoginEnable=True" with "AutomaticLoginEnable=true".
[13:22] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: this happens when the password synchronization between seahorse / gnome-keyring and shadow / pam fails, i think
[13:24] <hsn> I have no /dev/psaux but i have ps2 mouse and did modprobe psmouse
[13:24] <lotus|NUC> tomreyn: aha, that could sound logical
[13:24] <tomreyn> Surfer2011: those subdirectories is how it works, it creates hard links as a means of deduplication
[13:25] <Surfer2011> i know but /sharedfolders/0_LaCie/Backups/daily.0/Backup_Bilder/sharedfolders/0_BilderDocker/Bilder/....    i basically wanted a backup of the "Bilder" folder ... why will it "copy/create" the entire path to this folder also?
[13:26] <tomreyn> lotus|NUC: try "Passwords are not remembered" at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME/Keyring#Passwords_are_not_remembered
[13:27] <ZaZaGX> hi
[13:27] <tomreyn> if that's what fixes it then i was actually wrong about a synch taking place there. but it still helped me finding this ;)
[13:29] <tomreyn> ZaZaGX: hi, got any ubuntu support questions?
[13:29] <ZaZaGX> how is the new 18.04.3?
[13:30] <tomreyn> !discuss | ZaZaGX
[13:30] <ZaZaGX> i want to know if its good before i go back
[13:31] <OerHeks> nobody can tell how 18.04.3t performs on your system, i have no doubt it works fine
[13:32] <tomreyn> Surfer2011: hmm, i haven't used it recently, but i imagine it should not be neccessary. maybe you provided absoute paths when you ran it but should have provided relative paths?
[13:32] <ZaZaGX> well, the last 18.04.2 when it goes into screen saver mode. it messages up my firefox and corrupted my kwordquiz flash card files.
[13:33] <lotus|NUC> tomreyn: under seahorse passwords, there an folder icon login, unlock at login level. so your theory could make sense heh?
[13:33] <ZaZaGX> 19.04 fixed it, but i get once in a while freezes
[13:33] <ZaZaGX> messages=messed*
[13:34] <EoflaOE> lotus|NUC: Did you replace "True" with "true" in the "AutomaticLoginEnable"? Seems like the probing issue.
[13:34] <Surfer2011> tomreyn: i found the solution, it uses the --relative flag of rsync  .... you can explicitly control the portion of the pathname prefix that --relative saves by inserting a ./ at the desired cut-point
[13:34] <Surfer2011> :-) thanks
[13:35] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: well, weirdly when i ubuntu-bug gdm3, it asks to attach custom.conf to the bug as it was modified...
[13:36] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: and i never manually configged it, nor fool around with seahorse
[13:38] <EoflaOE> lotus|NUC: Then something is wrong somewhere.
[13:38] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE tomreyn so maybe i should actually file anyway? automatic login should just work on LTS right?
[13:39] <EoflaOE> But auto login should work on all the versions. You can file it anyways.
[13:47] <gst568923> hi guys, i just installed ubuntu 19.04 from scratch. In the setup phase, when selecting the device where to install the boot loader, I selected the device "/dev/sda2" which would be my efi partition. However among the selections I could also choose the device "/dev/sda". My question is: given that my system is UEFI, what would have happened if I ha
[13:47] <gst568923> d selected the "/dev/sda" device for installing the grub?
[13:49] <tomreyn> lotus|NUC: yes, just file it if there's no duplicate, yet, or just file it anyways and look for a dupe afterwards.
[13:49] <lotus|NUC> tomreyn: yeah, didnt find any dupes relevant
[13:50] <tomreyn> Surfer2011: oh, good you found that. :)
[13:50] <FaTaL_G> .
[13:51] <lotus|NUC> FaTaL_G: can we help you?
[13:51] <ice9> is it possible to connect to wifi ap while using intel wds?
[13:51] <OerHeks> gst568923, did you boot ubuntu in UEFI mode?
[13:52] <gst568923> OerHeks yes
[13:52] <tomreyn> lotus|NUC: so this login prompt only pops up during gdm login? if so, i got you wrong there. i was thinking you were saying it also randomly pops up durng gnome-shell use.
[13:52] <OerHeks> oke, then sda should be fine
[13:52] <FaTaL_G> lotus|NUC, that wasnt intentional
[13:53] <lotus|NUC> tomreyn: no, its only at gdm3 level (normal login)
[13:53] <tomreyn> oh ok, sorry
[13:53] <lotus|NUC> np
[13:55] <FaTaL_G> I'm looking for a little help getting my broadcom adapter to work on 18.04 as an AP. It worked fine on 16.04.
[13:56] <hexhaxtron> I'm using a behringer usb guitar link, qjackctl and rakarrack to play the electric guitar. Anyone knows how to increase the volume of it?
[13:56] <tomreyn> gst568923: chances are the same would have happened (as a result of bug 1396379)
[13:59] <gst568923> tomreyn I wanted to understand better why I am shown in the ubuntu installer (in a UEFI system) the "/dev/sda" device that is usually used when installing the grub on the MBR
[14:00] <OerHeks> gst568923, if that machine is UEFI, it should have GPT, not legacy MBR
[14:01] <tomreyn> gst568923: i assume this boot loader target device selection logic has just not been adapted for uefi, yet. and what OerHeks says.
[14:03] <gst568923> OerHeks tomreyn if the machine is BIOS MBR then the grub I would have installed on "/dev/sda" while (in my case UEFI) I selected the EFI partition "/dev/sda2" but the ubuntu installer I selected by default "/dev/sda "
[14:03] <_UsUrPeR_> Hey all. I just created a LVM partition yesterday created from two pv LVM paritions. I created it as a GPT partition which is roughy 4TB in side
[14:03] <_UsUrPeR_> err size
[14:04] <_UsUrPeR_> I can't seem to mount it after reboot
[14:04] <_UsUrPeR_> I'm trying to mount it as an ext4 partition, and it's saying that it doesn't recognize an ext4 partition
[14:05] <_UsUrPeR_> though it was working prior to reboot
[14:05] <_UsUrPeR_> any help would be appreciated
[14:06] <_UsUrPeR_> I'm running 16.04
[14:06] <leftyfb> _UsUrPeR_: why not just reformat it?
[14:06] <_UsUrPeR_> leftyfb, I transferred a bunch of files to it
[14:06] <TJ-> gst568923: regardless of BIOS or UEFI mode, it requires "grub-install /dev/sdX" *not* /dev/sdXY
[14:07] <_UsUrPeR_> leftyfb, like... I'd used it quite extensively
[14:07] <_UsUrPeR_> It's a GPT partition
[14:07] <Surfer2011> how can i speed up the windows preview/thumbnails of my samba share which is on a ubuntu server?
[14:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, you're aware you can't mount LVM on boot directly, without an initramfs?
[14:07] <TJ-> _UsUrPeR_: you've got too many "partitions" in that description :)
[14:08] <_UsUrPeR_> one moment.
[14:08] <_UsUrPeR_> where do we paste here?
[14:08] <TJ-> _UsUrPeR_: it normally goes disk > partition > PV > VG > LV
[14:08] <Eduard_Munteanu> /topic
[14:08] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, got it, thx
[14:09] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, could you take a look at this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/k93Jmt6G4r/
[14:09] <_UsUrPeR_> err someone - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/k93Jmt6G4r/
[14:10] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, it's definitely not a boot drive
[14:10] <_UsUrPeR_> it's a repo for camera footage
[14:10] <gst568923> TJ- I installed on "/ dev / sda2" because the ubuntu installer said "select the device to install the boot loader" and for what I know, in an UEFI system the boot loaders reside in an EFI partition
[14:11] <tomreyn> gst568923: ok. is there an unsolved issue other than the one which has been reported in 2014, still?
[14:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, um, why is camera_repo GPT? Do you want partitions inside LVM inside partitions?
[14:11] <gst568923> tomreyn What do you mean?
[14:12] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu,  there was an issue with going above 2TB which it seemed was resolved by GPT
[14:12] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, not sure if that was correct or not
[14:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, you don't want/need to partition LVs, you just create more LVs
[14:13] <tomreyn> gst568923: i mean: do you still have a question about this?
[14:13] <TJ-> gst568923: grub-install only wants the whole device name, not a partition. In UEFI mode it then looks for the EFI-SP and ensures it is mounted at /boot/efi/
[14:13] <Eduard_Munteanu> LVs are the equivalent of partitions.
[14:13] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, okay, did not realize that.
[14:13] <TJ-> gst568923: same as in BIOS mode with grub-pc, grub-install when seeing a GPT disk label then looks for a BIOS Boot partition GUID to put its core image into
[14:14] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, I guess I should probably remove the files off the data I moved over to it, but I need help mounting the ext4 partition in there. What am I missing?
[14:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> The only exception would be when provisioning space for VMs, then you could give them LVs to use as whole disks.
[14:14] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, oh, this is in vmware.
[14:15] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, didn't realize that was importent to mention >_>
[14:15] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, the VM is running on esxi 6.7
[14:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, you can use loopback to get at the partitions, it might be a bit slower though.
[14:16] <gst568923> TJ- I understand, but so what should I do in my case? the system seems to start quietly in dual boot
[14:16] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, speed's not an issue. I just need to recover the files. How do I do that?
[14:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, losetup -P -f /dev/camera_repo/camera_repo
[14:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, then you should get multiple /dev/loop0p* or something like that for each partition inside.
[14:19] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, there's only one partition, showing /dev/loop0p1
[14:19] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, you should do  modprobe loop max_part=10    before that
[14:19] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ok.
[14:19] <gst568923> TJ- I had a doubt: if the grub-install requires only "/ dev / sda" as a parameter, why did the ubuntu installer show me the list of all partitions (including the efi) to install the boot loader?
[14:19] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, now you can mount that
[14:20] <_UsUrPeR_> ayyyyyy
[14:20] <TJ-> gst568923: I would expect the installer would default to the raw device /dev/sdX but it provides options for unusual scenarios
[14:20] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, that worked. Thanks a million. Next question: what's the best way to provision this LVM for >2TB?
[14:22] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, err <2TB partiton
[14:22] <gst568923> TJ- however it is confusing. now in my case what should I do?
[14:23] <TJ-> gst568923: in almost every case the installer should be pointed to the whole disk device, not a partition
[14:24] <TJ-> gst568923: so if you've told it to do "grub-install /dev/sda2" I would assume it'd refuse since grub-install would know that was incorrect
[14:25] <gst568923> TJ- In the path "/boot/efi/EFI/" I have three folder "BOOT" "Microsoft" "ubuntu"
[14:25] <TJ-> gst568923: right, that's the EFI System Partition (EFI-SP) mounted there
[14:27] <TJ-> gst568923: it may be the installer corrected the device it was aimed at... I don't use the installer although I know most of its source-code so it is possible it detects and fixes that as a user error rather than failing mysteriously
[14:27] <gst568923> TJ- in the folder BOOT there is: BOOTX64.EFI fbx64.efi mmx64.efi
[14:28] <TJ-> gst568923: that's the removable media path (used for devices that are hot-plugged into a UEFI system) for when there is no PC UEFI menu entry stored in NVRAM - as there obviously cannot be for optical media and USB boot devices
[14:28] <brutser> when i try to cryptsetup my drive when installing ubuntu (from shell), i get : WARNING: Locking directory /run/cryptsetup is missing! < is this a critical problem for the encryption?
[14:28] <gst568923> TJ- in the ubuntu folder there is: BOOTX64.CSV grub.cfg grubx64.efi mmx64.efi shimx64.efi
[14:28] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, to clarify, I was having an issue provisioning this LVM for <2TB. GPT seemed to solve this, but it wouldn't mount after a reboot
[14:29] <TJ-> brutser: are you working manually in a chroot there?
[14:30] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, err actually, different question: why didn't this GPT partition mount and become available to utilize after it worked the first time around.
[14:30] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, is there some fstab entry I neglected?
[14:30] <brutser> TJ-: i interrupt the installation process (alt+f1) and go to shell, there i install what's needed for cryptsetup and continue, but i get that warning ^
[14:30] <gst568923> TJ- can I feel comfortable? I would like to check the logs in / var / log / installer ...
[14:30] <ioria> brutser, run ' sudo blkid  '(maybe you have same UUIDs )
[14:30] <TJ-> gst568923: that looks correct. The point of /EFI/BOOT/BOOT${architecture}.EFI is the PC firmware has that path hard-coded and can therefore boot from a device that has no entry in the PC's internal boot menu
[14:31] <TJ-> brutser: It sounds like you're not correctly setting things up, have you read my crypto-installer guide for FDE on the Wiki?
[14:31] <brutser> ioria: just checked, but no
[14:31] <ioria> ok
[14:32] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, and again, thank you for your time and effort in helping me out. It's greatly appreciated.
[14:32] <brutser> TJ-: i searched a little, maybe i came across it <
[14:33] <TJ-> brutser: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[14:33] <TJ-> gst568923: you can check the UEFI has an entry in its internal boot menu with "efibootmgr -v"
[14:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> No problem.
[14:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, if you give the LV to a VM, it will use it like a regular disk.
[14:36] <gst568923> TJ- in the `efibootmgr -v` I have two entries of ubuntu, first referred of \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi and the second \EFI\Ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[14:37] <brutser> TJ-: tbh, i am trying to implement a fde with debian, with the help of your guide and others, i do an expert installation in debian and then install all possible packages for the shell, then i just exit to the shell and the cryptsetup is giving that warning
[14:37] <brutser> is /run/cryptsetup needed for the encryption to work, or can i continue WITH this warning in place?
[14:37] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, :V okay, wait. You're saying that I can add this as a drive file in vmware? I had never considered that as an option.
[14:37] <TJ-> _UsUrPeR_: it may help to realise that whether it is a whole disk, a partition, an encrypted volume, or an LV, these are all *block devices* and you can put whatever you want inside them, including other block devices ad-infinitum
[14:38] <_UsUrPeR_> TJ-, indeed, that does help. Thanks.
[14:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, yeah, that will probably work. Some open source virtualization software also does that.
[14:39] <TJ-> _UsUrPeR_: in other words /dev/sda > /dev/sda2 > LUKS /dev/mapper/crypto (PV) > LV (myLV) are all jsut block-devices
[14:39] <brutser> TJ-: if i do a cryptsetup for the 2nd time, it works < maybe it needs to create hook or something
[14:39] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, shut my mouth. I'll check it out after i transfer files off the LVM/GPT/ext4 mess I made :)
[14:40] <TJ-> _UsUrPeR_: PV is a 'tag' (metadata) on some block device put doesn't create a block-device itself, a PV is made part of a VG (Volume Group) which again isn't a block device itself, but any LV (Logical Volumes) are block devices
[14:40] <TJ-> s/put doesn't/but doesn't/
[14:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> _UsUrPeR_, unless you have certain performance requirements, it might be more convenient to simply use a file for the virtual disk.
[14:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> (and unless you're running on btrfs in the host, which requires disabling CoW on that file for good performance)
[14:43] <gst568923> TJ- this is `cat syslog | grep "grub-installer"`: https://pastebin.com/zMy5aGxK
[14:45] <_UsUrPeR_> Eduard_Munteanu, naw, this is just a jbod collection of failing hard drives I am using to store surveillence video on
[14:47] <fleabeard> hello, is there an extension for chromium that will allow me to install gnome extensions? Trying to install dash to dock extension but the website says it can't detect my gnome install.
[14:48] <TJ-> gst568923: it 'feels' wrong but it looks like grub-install *thinks* it was successful. Without testing that in a virtual machine I can't be sure though. As I said, check what was added to the system boot menu with "efibootmgr -v"
[14:48] <gst568923> tomreyn as for yesterday's speech: if you can start "try ubuntu" and connect to a wifi usb adapter and then start the installer, I can confirm that it worked
[14:49] <ioria> fleabeard, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gnome-shell-integration/gphhapmejobijbbhgpjhcjognlahblep
[14:49] <gst568923> TJ- I told you, two ubuntu entries were added
[14:50] <TJ-> gst568923: I must have missed that... can you pastebin the output? (I'm multi-tasking here!)
[14:51] <fleabeard> thanks ioria!
[14:54] <amosbird> Hello, any pulseaudio users?
[14:54] <amosbird> so how does this fail to set the default sink?  set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo
[14:54] <amosbird> all streams are using index 0 sink while alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo is of index 1
[14:56] <fleabeard> I just added a ntfs drive to my fstab, is there a command to pick it up? Like mount -a or something to have it automatically update the fstab entry?
[14:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> fleabeard, mount -a  will mount it unless it's marked as noauto
[14:57] <fleabeard> oh I guess it is mount -a lol
[14:58] <fleabeard> that was a complete guess by me!
[14:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or you can just mount /mnt/mountpoint
[14:58] <fleabeard> thanks Eduard_Munteanu
[15:01] <gst568923> TJ- have you checked the pastebin link?
[15:02] <TJ-> gst568923: I haven't seen one (for the 'efibootmgr -v' )
[15:12] <gst568923> TJ- I send you on DM
[15:13] <TJ-> gst568923: oh... my client is set to block those, I only use public channels
[15:15] <kyle__> Has anyone actually had success using the in-repo binary nvidia drivers on 18.04?
[15:16] <gst568923> TJ- there is two entry: Boot0002 ubuntu* -> \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi Boot0004 ubuntu -> \EFI\Ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[15:17] <OerHeks> kyle__, sure, but there are many nvidia cards, what is your issue?
[15:17] <kyle__> OerHeks: When I install the binary drivers out of the tree, X uses a simple framebuffer driver.  Not nouveau and not the nvidia one.
[15:18] <TJ-> gst568923: right, but I was interested to see the device entries, I already know what the paths are. the device entries will indicate if grub-install self-corrected the /dev/sda2
[15:18] <kyle__> ubuntu-drivers devices shows two versions of the binary drivers it thinks are compatable, and from what I know of the card, they should be
[15:19] <ioria> kyle__, lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com
[15:19] <TJ-> kyle__: you can double-check that by comparing the PCI vendor:device ID with the modalias defined in the control file of the packages for those 2 versions
[15:20] <kyle__> You can netcat to termbin.com?
[15:20] <ioria> sure
[15:20] <gst568923> TJ- these are the string relative a ubuntu: https://pastebin.com/fwA0DuCD
[15:20] <kyle__> Damn that's cool
[15:20] <TJ-> kyle__: see e.g. "apt-cache show nvidia-driver-415 | grep Modaliases | less "
[15:20] <ioria> kyle__, lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:21] <ioria> sorry
[15:21] <kyle__> Any particular port on there?
[15:21] <kyle__> Ahhh :) there we go
[15:21] <TJ-> gst568923: those look correct, the "(2,$UUID)" is the partition number and UUID. What is strange is having 2 identical names so it'd be impossible to tell them apart
[15:22] <TJ-> kyle__: another 'trick' to show just PCI VGA device class: " lspci -nn -d ::0300 "
[15:23] <gst568923> TJ- in fact when I start the pc, in the grub only a  ONE ubuntu entry appears, I think it automatically selects the boot loader if I have enabled the secure boot ...
[15:25] <Aavar> How come samba mounting via Nautilus is much slower than if I mount via terminal? If i play a video direcly from nautilus it skips and stops, but if I mount via the terminal first it works great...
[15:26] <kyle__> Sorry, I guess I don't know how to read the lspci output to match up with the modaliases from the driver
[15:26] <ioria> kyle__, paste the url
[15:26] <kyle__> https://termbin.com/7cw0
[15:27] <ioria> kyle__, nothing in use ...
[15:27] <gst568923> TJ- what do you think about it?
[15:28] <ioria> kyle__,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:29] <kyle__> https://termbin.com/sdx4
[15:29] <TJ-> gst568923: that may be correct since Secure Boot mode should use the shimx64.efi *but* also it may jsut be that entry (0002) is set as the default
[15:29] <kyle__> Does it need the nvidiafb module loaded for any of this to work?  Or any specific grub settings?
[15:30] <gst568923> TJ- BootCurrent: 0002
[15:30] <TJ-> kyle__: this command is a way to grab just the Vendor:Device ID for a VGA class device:  " lspci -nn -d ::0300 | sed 's,.*\[\(.*\)\].*,\1,' "
[15:30] <ioria> kyle__,   cat /proc/cmdline  (you can paste here)
[15:30] <TJ-> gst568923: right, what about BootOrder though, does it start with 0002 ?
[15:31] <kyle__> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.0.0-23-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[15:31] <ioria> kyle__,   lsmod | grep nvidia
[15:31] <kyle__> First thing I checked, it's not there.
[15:32] <gst568923> TJ- BootOrder: 0002,0003,0004,0001,0000   (0003 is windows 10 004 ubuntu ...)
[15:32] <TJ-> kyle__: "journalctl -b -p warning"
[15:32] <kyle__> nvidiafb is blacklisted (by default?) in modprobe.d/fb-blacklist for some reason
[15:32] <TJ-> gst568923: OK, so firmware will always start 0002 by default
[15:32] <ioria> kyle__,   maybe update the initramfs ....
[15:33] <TJ-> gst568923: so if you interupt the firmware and use its manual boot menu I'd guess you'll see two "ubuntu" names and not know which is which, aside from hoping the first is 0002 and the second is 0004 :)
[15:33] <kyle__> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6N9Kgyw4Db/
[15:33] <kyle__> Hummm
[15:34] <kyle__> ioria: I've done that as well.
[15:34] <kyle__> I'm goign to try without the nvidiafb blacklisted.  Although I don't know why that would be an issue or required?
[15:34] <kyle__> Unless it's not just a simple framebuffer
[15:34] <ioria> kyle__,  i think the point is that nvidia it's not loade
[15:34] <ioria> *loaded
[15:35] <TJ-> kyle__: you've got a different problem, so we need to see the kernel's log, show us "pastebinit <( journalctl -k )"
[15:35] <gst568923> TJ- what do you mean with "manual boot menu"? I start the PC and UEFI firmware load the grub with only ONE entry of ubuntu showed
[15:35] <ioria> kyle__,   after that  paste   cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:36] <TJ-> gst568923: there's a "hotkey" you can press at power-on that shows the firmware's manual boot menu where you can select which entry to start. Often that is F10 or F11, but is usually shown on the power-on screen
[15:37] <kyle__> There's no nvidia graphics drivers.conf?
[15:37] <kyle__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CvvGhQJZ7n/
[15:37] <kyle__> Curious and curiousr.
[15:37] <kyle__> BRB
[15:38] <gst568923> TJ- yes I understand what you mean, in my case it seems to me that it is F12. So how many items should appear with the manual boot menu?
[15:40] <TJ-> gst568923: well in theory one for each entry that efibootmgr shows plus entries for each removable media device (DVD, USB, etc.) - if you have Legacy/CSM/BIOS support enabled you may see 2 entries for each device, one for UEFI boot mode and another for CSM/BIOS boot mode
[15:41] <gst568923> TJ- I mean: should two ubuntu entries appear as shown in efibootmgr?
[15:43] <kreyren> What version of nvidia-driver is available atm?
[15:43] <TJ-> gst568923: I would expect so but who knows? there's nothing in the UEFI specification about the boot menu
[15:44] <OerHeks> kreyren, for Blackop?
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: that depends on your chipset
[15:44] <OerHeks> he knows he is running an ancient x1300
[15:44] <kreyren> OerHeks, nope i just joined if it's about different user
[15:45] <kreyren> lotuspsychje, assuming system that supports nvidia-driver-430 ?
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: ubuntu suggests a reccomended driver for the specific chipset normally: ubuntu-drivers list
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: its up to the user, to choose wich one to install
[15:46] <gst568923> TJ- to control it I have to restart the PC, however in the next IRC session I'll let you know
[15:46] <kreyren> so i can use nvidia-driver-430 on demand?
[15:46] <OerHeks> still a debian issue, does not know ubuntu-driver list :-D
[15:47] <ovalseven8> Does somebody know why the last line does not work in apache? https://dpaste.de/wJ0O/raw
[15:48] <ovalseven8> Want redirect "https://domain.tld/thread-(digits).html" to "https://domain.tld/index.php?thread/(digits)"
[15:48] <gst568923> TJ- thanks anyway for the support, I was a debian user but I switched to ubuntu because in IRC sessions at least we can talk while on debian they all seemed irritated: D
[15:51] <TJ-> gst568923: hehehe you should see us steam behind-the-scenes sometimes
[15:53] <gst568923> TJ- I would like to ask you one last thing, do you know something about PMF (protected management frame) with network manager?
[15:54] <kyle__> OK.  My attempts so far have been to manually run, "apt-get install nvidia-driver-430", and when that didn't work, puring, then running.
[15:54] <kyle__> "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[15:54] <kyle__> With update-initramfs -kall -u and a reboot between each of course
[15:54] <kyle__> Is there some step missing I need ot run to generate that modprobe file?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: whats your chipset please?
[15:55] <TJ-> gst568923: only in terms of the source-code, I've not used that functionality.  https://github.com/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/acb70d84f9cc58cb09e02d68d01660f6d5087b34
[15:56] <kyle__> https://termbin.com/hf5n
[15:56] <coventry> I'm running virtualbox in fullscreen mode on ubuntu, and the host panel bar across the top of the screen often persists, obscuring the view of the guest display. Is there any way to disable display of the top panel, ideally only while in a fullscreen virtualbox window? Example: https://imgur.com/a/OzXxMdf I want to get rid of the gray bar at the top, which contains the date on the right hand side.
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: i think 430 is a bit high for your card, what other drivers does: ubuntu-drivers list show?
[15:57] <kyle__> coventry: IIRC there is if you launch the display for that VM from the command line, but not launched from the GUI.  This was > 5 years ago though, so it might have changed
[15:57] <kyle__> lotuspsychje: nvidia-driver-390
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: try to switch to 390 and reboot please
[15:58] <kyle__> Which I attempted to switch to after the first failure, using the software-update gui
[15:58] <coventry> Thanks, kyle__. Do you recall any details of how to invoke it from the CL to achieve that?
[15:58] <kyle__> (which was the only way I knew of to poke at it)
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: try it from terminal, you might see releavnt errors
[15:58] <kyle__> coventry: It was burried in VBoxCLI --help somewhere
[15:58] <coventry> Thanks
[15:59] <gst568923> TJ- I have followed this guide to check if my wifi adapter support PMF https://fedoramagazine.org/troubleshoot-pmf-f28/ and effectively there is the entries: * CMAC (00-0f-ac:6) * CMAC-256 (00-0f-ac:13) * GMAC-128 (00-0f-ac:11) * GMAC-256 (00-0f-ac:12)
[15:59] <gst568923> TJ- but Network Manager not enable it (ps: my modem-router support PMF)
[16:01] <kyle__> it removed the old driver, I see no errors or warnings in the dkms modules or the update-initramfs stages.  rebooting
[16:04] <kyle__> Same situation
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: what was your original issue please?
[16:06] <kyle__> The binary nvidia drivers won't load
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: is your system up to date?
[16:07] <kyle__> Honestly it looks like it's not including the nvidia module somehow.
[16:07] <kyle__> Yes.
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: ok, could you pastebin your dmesg plz?
[16:08] <kyle__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QtNwcFzzsb/
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: do you single boot ubuntu or dualboot with another Os?
[16:09] <kyle__> Single boot
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> allright
[16:09] <ioria> kyle__, why don't you start over... purge all nvidia drivers and see if at least nouveau  get loaded
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> good idea^
[16:11] <kyle__> nouveau mostly worked, but I can flip back if it will make it easier to move forard
[16:11] <kyle__> forward
[16:12] <ioria> kyle__,  nouveau was ok ?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: sudo apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau as ioria reccomends
[16:12] <kyle__> It doesn't support all the stuff for tensorflow, and it won't wake up one of my monitors, so i wanted to flip to the official driver
[16:12] <TJ-> kyle__: and others, note in the kernel log "Aug 11 10:35:35 leela kernel: nvidiafb 0000:01:00.0: BAR 3: can't reserve [mem 0xf0000000-0xf1ffffff 64bit pref] "
[16:13] <kyle__> What is the kernel module name for the proprietary driver?"
[16:13] <TJ-> followd by "kernel: nvidiafb: cannot request PCI regions"
[16:13] <kyle__> I see this when I look for things named nvidia
[16:13] <kyle__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dxV56mSGbn/
[16:13] <kyle__> TJ-: I unblacklisted the nvidiafb driver, thinking maybe it would help.  but purging now.
[16:14] <TJ-> kyle__: earlier there is "kernel: pci 0000:01:00.0: BAR 3: assigned to efifb"
[16:14] <TJ-> kyle__: right, not having nvidiafb will help but the problem appears to be that the nvidia driver doesn't attempt to load (we'd expect to see some NVRM: messages even if it tries and fails)
[16:15] <TJ-> kyle__: when you think its ready to test, first do "dkms status" and ensure the nvidia kernel wedge is installed for the kernel version you'll be booting
[16:15] <ioria> kyle__,  would be useful having the nvidia-driver-XX install output
[16:18] <kyle__> Should I rebooted into the nouevau first?
[16:19] <kyle__> Or not neccesary
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> kyle__: reboots are reccomended after driver switching
[16:21] <tomreyn> also     grep -F 'ACPI BIOS Error (bug)'    your dmesg
[16:21] <ioria> kyle__,  you're not using wayland , right ?
[16:29] <kyle__> ioria: right, not wayland
[16:30] <kyle__> That took a few minutes, as nouevou decided it didn't have any dispaly modes over 640x480, and I had to remmeber how to convince xrandr >_<
[16:31] <ioria> kyle__,  but nouveau has  loaded ? and do you still have a xorg.conf somewhere ?
[16:32] <kyle__> I'll look for the xorg.  In the meantime, here's the output of the nvidia driver install http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SW4BJWXRrH/
[16:33] <kyle__> dkms-status say: root@leela:~# dkms status
[16:33] <kyle__> nvidia, 390.116: added
[16:33] <ioria> kernel headers for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[16:33] <ioria> better, Module build for kernel 5.0.0-23-generic was skipped
[16:35] <kyle__> Well hell...
[16:35] <ioria> kyle__,  you miss something (about your kernel chain)
[16:35] <kyle__> I honestly though A) I had them, and B) it would have errored out if it tried to build and I didn't.
[16:36] <ioria> kyle__,  dpkg -l | grep 5.0.0-23
[16:36] <kyle__> Yeah, I just installed them, and it triggered the dkms build
[16:36] <kyle__> And dkms status now says: nvidia, 390.116, 5.0.0-23-generic, x86_64: installed
[16:36]  * kyle__ sighs
[16:36] <kyle__> I really should have caught that earlier.
[16:36] <kyle__> :) Thank you so much for your help all
[16:36] <ioria> kyle__, your kernel is in a bad shape :þ
[16:37] <nicomachus> 390? that's a bit old.
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: not for his card
[16:37] <nicomachus> ohhh.
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: 430 would be a bit overkill
[16:38] <ioria> brb
[16:40] <kyle__> ioria: Nah, its' not in bad shape, i just had to use a newer than stock kernel for this box when I got it, because it's a ryzen, and with the stock kernel it didn't consistently display on boot
[16:40] <kyle__> So I couldn't interact with it to unlock the disks
[16:44] <TJ-> kyle__: glad you finally figured it out :)
[16:59] <MikeRL> Ugh. I'm having an issue doing rsync to do a backup to an external HD. I typed in "sudo rsync -r -a /bin "/media/mike/Linux Backup/bin/"" and all I got was a broken symlink.
[16:59] <MikeRL> Any ideas? I use rsync every few months so my brain isn't working so well, sadly.
[16:59] <MikeRL> I read up the man page, too.
[17:31] <rapidwave> What is the best gaming API that is cross-platform, but also low lurning curve?
[17:37] <OerHeks> low lurning curve, interesting..
[17:40] <XeryaX> alrighty... ive got a unique one....
[17:40] <XeryaX> when i am copying files from one machine. (using rsync) they start out really effing slow (per file) like 88k/sec  -- then 10s later, i get full wire speed 176MBytes (not bits) / sec I cant seem to find the IO issue... ive tried from multiple disks, so it isnt the drives, ive tried USB, ive tried direct attached, etc.... somewhere in the system is
[17:40] <XeryaX> causing this (ubuntu 18.04)
[17:42] <TJ-> XeryaX: sounds like the initial file transfer is being done in parallel with the checksumming, have you enabled verbose output from rsync?
[17:49] <XeryaX> yeah, seems like it slows at "calling match_sums" on each file... doing some googling
[18:31] <kjd> good day all
[18:32] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:36] <cbthree>  has anyone here running Ubuntu 19.04 and owns a Samsung Chromebook 3 managed to get its internal microphone working?
[18:53] <cbthree> no one?
[18:56] <tomreyn> you may have better chances getting support if you dont just address the potentially tiny subset of people here who have both this very computer model and this very issue.
[18:56] <kismet1234> cbthree, is there logs
[18:57] <kismet1234> tail syslog
[18:59] <cbthree> nothing in the logs
[19:03] <ioria> cbthree, i don't know that device, but there is a magic tool (hdajackretask - in alsa-tools-gui) that was useful to me in the past: you check  Show unconnected pins ans set the mic as Int mic or similar
[19:13] <kismet1234> cbthree, suppose it needs an ubuntu proprietary driver or so ?
[19:14] <AHemlocksLie> I'm running 18.04 LTS Ubuntu Budgie, and I'm having an issue with severely restricted desktop resolution, 1280x800 down from 3440x1440. When I rebooted to Windows, it couldn't actually bring up the display once I got to the login screen, but that was fixed by changing DisplayPort ports on the GPU. I suspect hardware issue with my AMD RX 580, but not sure how to diagnose. What should I look at to investigate the problem?
[19:18] <tomreyn> AHemlocksLie: journalctl -b
[19:19] <tomreyn> make sure you configure windows to shut dwn cleanly and fully . by default it will not, which can cause such issues.
[19:21] <kinghat> does chrome still need a startup flag for dark ui or is there a system flag now?
[19:21] <tomreyn> AHemlocksLie: https://superuser.com/questions/1152001/shutdown-windows-10-truly-for-a-dual-booting-system
[19:22] <tomreyn> !info chrome
[19:23] <TJ-> !info chrome-browser
[19:23] <TJ-> where'd it go?!
[19:23] <deadrom> hi
[19:24] <TJ-> !info chromium-browser
[19:24] <tomreyn> it was never there. just chromium
[19:24] <TJ-> hehehe I got there eventually
[19:24] <AHemlocksLie> tomreyn, the issue began in Linux. I tried to launch a game, but it kept crashing, I figured two weeks of uptime was enough, so I updated and rebooted, but it hasn't been right since.
[19:24] <AHemlocksLie> But I will look into that just in case.
[19:24] <deadrom> when resuming from STR the laptop's docking station does not wake the displays fast enough. ubuntu starts and falls back to one screen (I have 2). Any idea how to prevent his?
[19:24] <deadrom> *this even
[19:25] <AHemlocksLie> journalctl -B doesn't *seem* to be showing anything particularly alarming... Header issue google reports as pretty normal...
[19:25] <tomreyn> AHemlocksLie: lower case B
[19:26] <tomreyn> feel free to share it: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:26] <AHemlocksLie> er, yeah, that's what I used, sorry
[19:26] <AHemlocksLie> "PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key" looks like it might be an issue...
[19:28] <AHemlocksLie> https://termbin.com/q3bs is what I've got
[19:30] <tomreyn> that's probably secure boot related, unrelated to this issue.
[19:31] <AHemlocksLie> And I don't think I even have secure boot enabled, though I could be wrong
[19:32] <jeremy31> AHemlocksLie: check in terminal>  mokutil --sb-state
[19:33] <All9s> Hello everyone!
[19:33] <tuxi> hi is there any good compiler for a beginner available in ubuntu?
[19:34] <AHemlocksLie> SecureBoot disabled, Platform is in Setup Mode... Setup Mode doesn't sound like the best
[19:34] <All9s> How would I automate the bare metal installations of 20 machines?
[19:35] <OerHeks> landscape, puppet, chef, many options
[19:35] <kinghat> ya i was talking flags for the ui that are not startup flags, chromium.
[19:35] <OerHeks> !landscape
[19:36] <AHemlocksLie> Ah, no, just sounds like SecureBoot is pretty thoroughly blanked... Hm... lsmod shows amdgpu loaded, so that's getting in the system okay...
[19:41] <AHemlocksLie> "kernel: [1331706.380276] gldriverquery[9974]: segfault at f0 ip 00000000f55d5440 sp 00000000ffebc450 error 4 in amdgpu_dri.so[f4510000+2c46000]" in /var/log/kern.log, now this looks relevant
[19:41] <jeremy31> AHemlocksLie: Setup modes means that there are no factory  secure boot keys found
[19:48] <tomreyn> AHemlocksLie: when was kern.log last written to, though?
[19:49] <AHemlocksLie> tomreyn, today around the time of my most recent boot
[19:50] <tomreyn> oh ok
[19:50] <tomreyn> your system did report a budgie crash to daisy.ubuntu.com (resulting in data stored at errors.ubuntu.com)
[19:51] <AHemlocksLie> Oh, but it looks like that specific segfault I mentioned is from about 5 hours ago. Would have been while my system was still up originally, before I had the game problems and after the last time I'd played successfully
[19:52] <tomreyn> x-www-browser https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)
[19:52] <tomreyn> this lets you view what was recorded
[19:54] <AHemlocksLie> Looks like I've been having budgie-core crashes for a while
[19:55] <AHemlocksLie> 10 most recent span back to early March, so if that's it, this card has been on a slow burn for a while. Seems a little unlikely. Anything else of note is at least a month old
[19:56] <evaluate> Hello.
[19:56] <AHemlocksLie> I can't seem to find any real indication that there's currently an issue with the system, but 1280x800 is definitely not normal
[19:57] <evaluate> For the netboot image, the kernel and initrd are available online as well (e.g. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/). Are these also available for the live-server image?
[19:58] <tomreyn> AHemlocksLie: does "xrandr" list the higher resolutions as available, and can you use it to switch to these?
[19:58] <tomreyn> (note this may crash budgie again, so save your work first)
[19:59] <AHemlocksLie> tomreyn, nope, it doesn't list anything about 1280x800
[19:59] <AHemlocksLie> *anything above.
[20:00] <AHemlocksLie> Lists about 10 resolutions total, some with an assortment of what I assume are refresh rates
[20:03] <tomreyn> AHemlocksLie: i'm not sure how to debug this. what you could try is to run the default ubuntu 18.04.3 from a live usb and see whether you can get the proper resolution there.
[20:03] <tomreyn> you can also try the !hwe kernel and X on your current system
[20:03] <tomreyn> !HWE
[20:04] <tomreyn> AHemlocksLie: finally, what might help is the amdgpu.dc=0 !kernelparm
[20:04] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | AHemlocksLie
[20:08] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: tomreyn  did you notice "Aug 11 14:06:14 mikey-MS-7693 kernel: amdgpu 0000:01:00.0: Invalid PCI ROM header signature: expecting 0xaa55, got 0xffff"
[20:09] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, googling suggests that's fairly common and not problematic
[20:09] <tomreyn> TJ-: a, no, missed this one
[20:10] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: I tend to agree with you but wanted to be sure you'd considered it
[20:11] <omega_doom> hello everyone!
[20:11] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: a VGA BIOS option ROM doesn't really count on EFI systems anyhow
[20:11] <tomreyn> so there's https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98798 about this
[20:12] <omega_doom> How can i disable/remove audio devices that not used anymore?
[20:12] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: Can I suggest to reboot into the GRUB shell (tap Esc repeatedly to get the GRUB menu then press 'c' to get the command shell) then use the command "videoinfo" in GRUB to see what  UEFI tells GRUB about available modes
[20:13] <omega_doom> I have multiple audio devices and looks my ubuntu hangs when i play music.
[20:13] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, okay, I'll do that and depending on output, trying tomreyn 's idea for the kernel option
[20:14] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: the important part from Linux side is what the monitor reports in the EDID, which should be reported in the Xorg.log
[20:15] <omega_doom> I have found info that pulse can't handle multiple audi devices.
[20:15] <AHemlocksLie> Okay. I'll be back in a few minutes
[20:15] <AHemlocksLie> Eh, I'll check that first
[20:16] <TJ-> omega_doom: well that sounds like bad advice - if something 'hangs' there's a bug at kernel level I'd expect
[20:16] <AHemlocksLie> "[  2278.799] (EE) AMDGPU(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter
[20:16] <AHemlocksLie> " maybe something...
[20:17] <TJ-> omega_doom: I have a Digital Audio Workstation with lots of audio devices
[20:17] <AHemlocksLie> Only EE entry in Xorg.log
[20:17] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: yes indeed, lets see the entire log in a pastebin please
[20:19] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YXcNPt6tgs/
[20:20] <AHemlocksLie> Definitely seeing references to resolutions up to my max 3440x1440
[20:21] <tomreyn> AHemlocksLie: maybe you could uninstall the software which provides amdkcl.ko and see whether this makes the higher resoultions work again?
[20:21] <AHemlocksLie> And looks like EDID stuff, so if I understand correctly, that suggests Linux is, in fact, receiving the proper max resolution, but the GPU/its driver won't offer resolutions that high
[20:22] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: is the monitor a G-Story 35" 120Hz 1440p Curved UWQHD Monitor
[20:22] <tomreyn> (i suspect this is amdgpu-pro?)
[20:22] <AHemlocksLie> That's pretty close. I don't think it's G-Story, and I wanna says it's 100Hz, not 120, but the rest is about right, yeah
[20:22] <AHemlocksLie> And yeah, I'm using amdgpu-pro
[20:22] <omega_doom> I will tru to update ubuntu.
[20:23] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: I was going by "GS35UCR"
[20:23] <tomreyn> try with just amdgpu then
[20:24] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, that sounds like a pretty reasonable model number, though I don't recall off the top of my head. And the stats are pretty accurate for the most part
[20:25] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: silly question but have you recently changed the displayPort cable?
[20:26] <omega_doom> The problem is i have audio devices in the sound property thah no longer active.
[20:27] <omega_doom> usb audio devices that i don't have anymore.
[20:28] <omega_doom> I think pulse is confused by those not valid devices.
[20:28] <omega_doom> And i don't know how to remove them.
[20:29] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, no, it's the same one. In the initial diagnosis, I swapped ports, and that didn't help in Linux. It did seem to help with Windows, though.
[20:29] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: woah! "Using hsync ranges from config file" ... can you show us "pastebinit <( find /etc/X11 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ -ls )"
[20:30] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: if there's some config limiting h/vsync frequencies it would cause this
[20:31] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: oh, add this path too: "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[20:31] <tomreyn> omega_doom: see if you have any of the listes listed unter SYNOPSIS on the pulse-client.conf(5) !an page
[20:31] <tomreyn> *!man page
[20:31] <tomreyn> !man | omega_doom
[20:32] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, didn't find /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, but seemed to get the rest. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X7cFt8Nq2p/
[20:32] <gst568923> Hi guys, I have installed ubuntu 19.04 with network manager 1.16.0-0ubuntu2 and I would like enable PMF for my connection. I have run: `nmcli connection modify <MY-SSID> 802-11-wireless-security.pmf required` but journald return me "Activation: (wifi) couldn't build wireless configuration: 802-11-wireless-security: Supplicant does not support PMF"
[20:32] <gst568923>  ps:(My Modem-Router support PMF, I tested it!)
[20:33] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: and now "pastebinit <( grep -r  . /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ )"
[20:33] <omega_doom> @ubottu What?
[20:34] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j3S8BXnN5N/
[20:34] <TJ-> gst568923: "supplicant" means wpa_supplicant, OR the kernel driver for the device
[20:35] <All9s> I think I want an Ubuntu tattoo.
[20:36] <gst568923> TJ- "state change: config -> failed (reason 'supplicant-config-failed', sys-iface-state: 'managed')"
[20:36] <OerHeks> All9s, yes? https://lamiradadelreplicante.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Ubuntu-tattoo-624x416.jpg
[20:37] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: nothing there I was expecting (a "Section Monitor") but the "Using hsync ranges from config file" means something - we need to find out what/where this "config file" is
[20:37] <All9s> These are stickers, OerHeks
[20:37] <OerHeks> * ask your parents first
[20:38] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: Try " grep -rn 'Section "Monitor"' /etc/X11 /opt/amdgpu* "
[20:39] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, nothing
[20:40] <omega_doom> tomreyn: i don't see files that mentioned in the pulse-client.conf.
[20:41] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: and we're not sure how accurate that message is - does it mean a real file in the file-system or is it referring to the EDID from the monitor
[20:42] <omega_doom> I tomreyn: I see different files in the ~./config/pulse/ - tdb, sink, source, cookie.
[20:43] <gst568923> my wifi adapter support cipher for PMF as described on https://fedoramagazine.org/troubleshoot-pmf-f28/
[20:44] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: I wonder if Xorg allows per-user config files
[20:44] <omega_doom> I found similar simptoms in the internet. At first ubuntu freezes several times and finally freezes completely.
[20:46] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, I... am not sure. I didn't have to really do any config for my setup other than driver installation and stuff like that
[20:46] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: the only one I can 'find' is $HOME/.local/share/xorg/
[20:46] <AHemlocksLie> I've got an Xorg.0.log there, but that's it
[20:47] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: my gut feeling is the EDID reported modelines are being pruned by some over-ride that claims lower h/vsync frequencies
[20:47] <omega_doom> The explanation is that pulse peridically probes all devices and freezes if there are dead ones.
[20:47] <AHemlocksLie> ...And that log is from early May. So it's not relevant.
[20:48] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, maybe, but seems odd that that would happen somehow. Unless a new package triggered it somehow, but why on earth would a package want to do that by default?
[20:48] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: is it possible you've got both amdgpu and amdgpu-pro installed and they're mixed up? I say that based on the files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and the Files modules paths of /opt/amdgpu{,-pro}/
[20:49] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: try to find out what those directories belong to (package). As in "dpkg -S /opt/amdgpu-pro/" and "dpkg -S /opt/amdgpu/"
[20:49] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: if they're from Debian packages that'll report which packages
[20:50] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, I don't think so. I have installed both, but I had some issues with the newest driver when I installed it like a month ago or so, and I ripped EVERY driver package out and reinstalled the older one
[20:50] <AHemlocksLie> But it's not impossible I missed something. I'll look at that.
[20:51] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: well, those paths were listed in files from /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[20:52] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-amdgpu.conf:Section "Files"  lists both those paths
[20:52] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, they do seem to report different packages, typically all -pro's from amdgpu-pro/ and regulars for amdgpu/. Not sure if they're dependencies, though. The driver package installs a slew of prerequisites.
[20:52] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: I don't know if that is meant as in the amdgpu-pro is a superset of amdgpu and therefore it just adds its extras in the amdgpu-pro path
[20:53] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, I suspect that's what it is, -pro as a superset with added functionality
[20:53] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: if they're Debian package you can check with "apt-cache show amdgpu-pro" and look at the "Depends:" list
[20:53] <TJ-> (Assuming "amdgpu-pro" is the package name of course
[20:54] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, first dependency is amdgpu, so looks like it
[20:55] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: Totally different tack. Hardware: I presume the GPU is a discrete PCIe adapter ... I've seen strange issues like this when the adapter isn't fully home in the motherboard slot. Right now I'd pull the GPU and reseat it and ensure it isn't slightly 'up' at one end of the slot, and that the card can't be levered by the cable connections
[20:56] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: and triple-check the cable connector is fully home in the socket on the GPU back-plane
[20:56] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, This has some entries I found interesting https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y9nxkQcjgX/
[20:57] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, specifically the parts about "Not giving standard mode: <various higher resolutions though not quite max>"
[20:57] <AHemlocksLie> They also look like comments, though, so not sure what that's about
[20:57] <gst568923> nothing?
[20:57] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: hmmm, interesting... now where'd I put your Xorg.log!?
[20:58] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YXcNPt6tgs/
[20:58] <omega_doom> Is it safe to delete files in the ~.config/pulse?
[20:59] <jeremy31> omega_doom: just rename that folder to be safe as it should be re created when pulseaudio is started
[21:02] <omega_doom> jeremy31: I did it and it's ok but i still see dead devices in the sound setings.
[21:03] <jeremy31> omega_doom: you have to reboot or restart pulseaudio
[21:03] <omega_doom> I have two devices that have same "Analog Stereo Output"
[21:03] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: the getedid reports a single hsync "Horizsync 160-160"
[21:05] <omega_doom> One is usb audio that i no longer use and second is headphones that i use.
[21:08] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, hmmmm looking into it, I can't find anything from within the last 5 years discussing horizsync values. Everything references packages that seem to have been dropped
[21:11] <AHemlocksLie> I'm gonna reboot and check out things in GRUB and maybe try that kernel param someone suggested
[21:11] <AHemlocksLie> Be back in a few minutes
[21:12] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: before you go...!
[21:12] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, oo just in time
[21:12] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: I'm using a modeline calc to check the EDID
[21:12] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: at http://www.epanorama.net/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html  and entered the details for the first 3440x1440 mode getedid reported
[21:13] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: if correct, that calculator says: "Horizontal sync frequency is 148.1 kHz.  --- if the monitor is only offering 160-160kHz we might have found an explanation
[21:13] <omega_doom> I rebooted but still see not used devices in the sound setings.
[21:15] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: the values I've entered to get a matching modeline are: pixel clock: 524.26 Horiz: 1440 48 32  20 polarity 1, Vert: 1440 3  13 21 polarity 0  which gives Modeline "3440x1440"   524.26   3440 3488 3520 3540   1440 1443 1456 1477  +hsync -vsync
[21:16] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: that matches the getedid "Mode 0" 524.26 3440 3488 3520 3540 1440 1443 1453 1481 +hsync -vsync
[21:16] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: well almost!
[21:17] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, it seems really odd that I would suddenly struggle to match the rates my monitor offers after so long...
[21:17] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: correction for Vert: 1440 3 10 28 polarity 0
[21:19] <OerHeks> omega_doom, pacmd unload-module module-udev-detect && pacmd load-module module-udev-detect  >>> https://superuser.com/questions/845645/pulseaudio-how-to-rescan-audio-devices
[21:19] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: Are you aware that EDID is stored in an EEPROM and can be re-programmed. There was a time when it was relatively common for EDID to actually get corrupted and could be reprogrammed over the link. The checksum here matches so that is unlikely but I feel that 160-160kHz is a big clue... does the monitor have multiple DP inputs and if so maybe they report different EDIDs
[21:20] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, No, just one DP port. 3 HDMIs, not sure if I have one that'll support the resolution and refresh rate
[21:20] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, I want to say I specifically got a DP cable because of that
[21:21] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: looking at the Xorg.log pastebin, line 377 lists some weird resolutions not including the 3440x1440 but later (presumably after you unplug/plug the monitor) at line 620 we see the expected modes reported
[21:24] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, since this lacks timestamps, I assume the entire log is from one boot, in which case the cable was never tampered with.
[21:25] <omega_doom> OerHeks: this is odd. Now all devices have been duplicated.
[21:25] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: interesting, so every few seconds the monitor is re-appearing and the GPU is querying the EDID then?
[21:25] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, I ran into the issue in Linux, booted to Windows to see if it had issues, too, to test the hardware, and it DID have trouble presenting ANY screen at all, just toggling the monitor in and out of power saving with a "no display" message or something like that. When I swapped ports on the GPU, I got the Windows login in a seemingly appropriate resolution, so I rebooted to Linux, where it hasn't been touched since
[21:26] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: 2271, 2274, 2278, 2286 (timestamp seconds since kernel started )
[21:26] <OerHeks> just delete the ~/.config/pulse directory, it will be recreated
[21:27] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: that's revealing since we know the Xorg log reports no DPMS (Display Power Management System)
[21:27] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, and 3188. And now I'm rechecking it and finding new entries at 7293 and 7554
[21:28] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: "[    47.760] (II) AMDGPU(0): DPMS capabilities: Off" but getedid reports "Option "DPMS" "true""
[21:28] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, and recalling get-edid | parse-edid doesn't seem to be causing a new entry, suggesting it's something else
[21:28] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: I'm beginning to suspect the monitor is the problem
[21:29] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, oh really? So you think I should boot over to Windows and see for sure if it's working properly there, then?
[21:30] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, and if getedid reports it as true, wouldn't that suggest the monitor is properly reporting, but the driver isn't properly handling it for whatever reason?
[21:30] <omega_doom> OerHeks: I tried to delete it but it doesn't help. Now i see three device instances in the sound settings.
[21:33] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: I've just found a review on Amazon for the G-Story and it mentions "Small con: Only hdmi 3 does full 4K 60hz"
[21:34] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: and goes on "I ended up buying a switch so that I could plug my PS4 Pro and Xbox One X into that port"
[21:34] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: see https://www.amazon.com/G-STORY-3440X1440P-Eye-Care-FreeSync-Certificated/product-reviews/B078LWVWX3
[21:34] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=31005 this is my monitor
[21:35] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: looks identical inc. the stand
[21:35] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, could be the same manufacturer for different brands, but the logo in the bottom middle is different at least
[21:41] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: logos are easy to change ... however, I'm reading the manual for your model, and I wonder about the "Set 2" > "Free Sync" option that affects the DP (page 14)
[21:44] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, settings haven't been touched in months, but I'll see what it's set to
[21:45] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, yeah, Free Sync is still enabled
[21:45] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: they're the same monitor, compare the full/detailed specs on your seller's web-page to this one https://drop.com/buy/g-story-35-120hz-1440p-curved-uwqhd-monitor/details#details
[21:46] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: you'll see the info is identical including formatting of text - always a massive clue that they come from the same ODM
[21:46] <omega_doom> my ubunti freezed again. Only hardware reboot helped. Help!
[21:47] <AHemlocksLie> I've had 3440x1440 with 100Hz on this DisplayPort since I got it a year ago
[21:47] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, so I don't think the port is an issue. This is a very abrupt change from what was perfectly functional
[21:49] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: OK but something has changed. I'm trying to locate reports of the same monitor where we can compare EDID/Xorg with yours, hence its helpful to know the monitor is sold under different labels
[21:54] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, unless you want me to check something first, I'm gonna try a couple things that need a reboot. Would be back in ~5 minutes
[21:55] <FaTaL_Gg> I'm looking for a little help getting my broadcom adapter to work on 18.04 as an AP. It worked fine on 16.04.
[21:55] <omega_doom> i don't understanf why i see those usb audio devices.
[21:55] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: go ahead :)
[21:56] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, okay, cool, be back soon
[21:59] <omega_doom> I also disable other AudioIPCServers. I hope it will help.
[22:06] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, so I'm over in Windows, and it had the same issue again with not being able to get a screen up until I unplugged it and plugged it back in, but this time I used the same port. That seemed to make the difference
[22:07] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, however, upon logging into Windows, which is further than I went last time, I got an error for AMDRSServ.exe, which obviously isn't for Linux, but does suggest AMD related issues still
[22:07] <omega_doom> this is starnge again. There were 3 AudioIPCServers but now there are only 2.
[22:07] <AHemlocksLie> I'm gonna try to launch a resource intensive game and see what that does, might take a minute to get it loaded up
[22:08] <AHemlocksLie> I am getting the full 3440x1440, though
[22:09] <AHemlocksLie> And 100 Hz
[22:15] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: check the Windows Event Log(s) for clues about that error and maybe others
[22:16] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: Have you changed any settings in the PC's firmware, especially around power management?
[22:19] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, I had not touched anything of the sort. And performance seems just fine under Windows once I got past the initial issue. Next time I boot over to Linux, I'm gonna try that there and see if it helps
[22:22] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: it certainly seems like a hardware issue of some sort
[22:22] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, yeah, I can't decide if I think you're right about the monitor or not. It seems pretty reasonable. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare to test with. And I don't seem to be getting any driver errors or anything on Linux
[22:23] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, but I don't normally get that AMD error, though I can't tell what it's for exactly, so it might not be very significant
[22:23] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: have you tried reseating the GPU adapter yet?
[22:23] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, I have not. I was curious how performance would be under Windows.
[22:25] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: the other thing you might consider is the power adapter for the monitor. There are so many variables in situations like this. Do you have any other PCs you could connect and boot with a LiveISO simply to see what EDID is initially returned (since the Xorg.log didn't report the 3440x1440 modeline initially but did later but would only choose 1280x720 )
[22:26] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, only one error logged in Event Viewer in the last hour... Flagged as an application error, though, from WMI, not sure what that is. Doesn't seem to suggest anything related... "Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003.
[22:26] <AHemlocksLie> Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected." If that means anything to you.
[22:26] <AHemlocksLie> I assume it's ignorable, though
[22:26] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: the PC/GPU doesn't need to drive the monitor at that resolution, but checking the returned EDID would be useful
[22:27] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, might be able to hook up to my laptop. I'll try that in a sec. Gonna boot back to Linux and see if the reconnect helps.
[22:27] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: Event doesn't look related, seems like an SQL query of the Windows Management Instrumention database
[22:34] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, so I ran videoinfo from GRUB, and it only gave four resolutions, the largest being 1280x1024, which is slightly larger than the old 1280x800
[22:35] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, And replugging didn't matter, reran the command after replugging to the same results. But now I'm up to normal resolution in Linux.
[22:35] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: that would likely be a standard VESA mode
[22:36] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: "normal resolution" being ?
[22:36] <AHemlocksLie> 3440x1440
[22:37] <AHemlocksLie> Technically had to manually put it back once I logged in, but the login screen was standard resolution again, so I think that was just "memory" of the last used setting
[22:37] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: oh, so its working to the preferred mode now
[22:38] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, yeah, but seems to only do that if I un/replug it like I had to do under Windows. So something's still screwy, but I can at least force normality
[22:39] <AHemlocksLie> Really wish I could figure out what's causing the problem... If it's hardware, it's been about a year since I got it, so warranty may be ending really soon
[22:40] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: I wonder if you could trigger that from software? When it's on a lower resolution do something like "xrandr --output DP-0 --off && xrandr --output DP-0 --auto" (I can't recall now what the actually output name should be so correct that!)
[22:41] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, maybe, but I hate to hack in something like that if I don't really, really have to
[22:41] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: it's as a test to see if you can replicate the unplug/replug just in software
[22:41] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: if you can that suggests the problem isn't hardware
[22:44] <AHemlocksLie> TJ-, the fact that this problem sprang up on both OSs simultaneously with an identical fix suggests it's not software, I would think
[22:44] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: right but xrandr might be poking the GPU in the correct way, if it is a GPU issue
[22:45] <TJ-> AHemlocksLie: the only way you're going to pinpoint the cause is by a process of elimination, through tests.... or some extreme good luck!