[01:44]  * tomreyn admires TJ-'s patience
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:20] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> !info kismet bionic
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:21] <marcoagpinto> Heya!!!! A cola demon!
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> WARNING! WARNING! This a cola free zone!!!
[14:27] <OerHeks> systemctrl status colad.service
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:40] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[14:41] <marcoagpinto> BluesKaj!!!! Hello!!!!
[14:41] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hi marcoagpinto
[14:43] <hggdh> morning folks
[14:43] <BluesKaj> 'Morning hggdh
[14:43] <marcoagpinto> hey hggdh
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> hey hggdh
[15:07] <marcoagpinto> "of Fire and Light"
[15:07] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:07] <marcoagpinto> good metal
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> https://fedorapeople.org/~jwrdegoede/flickerfree-videos/workstation-bgrt-logo.webm
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> flickerfree on 19.10 to come
[16:30] <OerHeks> fedora ... you?
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> no, its linked from omgubuntu
[16:31] <lotuspsychje>  News from omgubuntu: Ubuntu 19.10 Will Offer a Flicker Free Boot (For Some Users, Anyway) <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/n3hdU9dFcuQ/ubuntu-flicker-free-boot>
[16:36] <lordcirth> While that's cool, it's way down my priority list...
[17:03] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaaaa... I need to reboot... my PhD software fragmented all the RAM :(
[17:05] <lordcirth> fragmented your RAM?
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> pacman did it
[17:14] <daftykins> o0
[17:24] <marcoagpinto> back!
[17:24] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[17:25] <marcoagpinto> the tool is so heavy on system resources :(((((
[17:25] <marcoagpinto> 4 GB is too little for it
[18:42] <tomreyn> it must have been a boot sector virus!
[18:42] <tomreyn> on drive a:
[18:52] <marcoagpinto> tomreyn: ????
[18:56] <tomreyn> i'm joking about old computer issues.
[18:57] <marcoagpinto> ahhhh
[18:57] <marcoagpinto> because A: and B: are floppy drives
[18:57] <marcoagpinto> :)
[18:57] <tomreyn> yes, and for the most part, boot sector viruses, are a thing of the past, too.
[18:57] <marcoagpinto> yes
[18:57] <tomreyn> at least currently.
[19:02] <tomreyn> https://serverfault.com/questions/133305/linux-memory-fragmentation
[19:02] <tomreyn> you're probably not using huge pages with 4 GB of total physical memory
[19:10] <marcoagpinto> tomreyn: It is Windows 10 not Ubuntu
[19:10] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:11] <marcoagpinto> and I store most of the data in multidimensional arrays that eat all RAM
[19:11] <marcoagpinto> the software no longer works in 32-bit, but only in 64
[19:12] <marcoagpinto> although I have removed a field from some of the arrays
[19:12] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:12] <marcoagpinto> but they are still huge
[19:12] <marcoagpinto> then, they are also structured, for example:
[19:13] <marcoagpinto> field(1,5000,5000)\time
[19:13] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:14] <marcoagpinto> anyway, I found a way of reducing RAM usage by removing a background image and replace it with a smaller picture, but the design guy made the GUI for free, so I can't ask much from him
[19:14] <marcoagpinto> it is my PhD afterall
[20:18] <JimBuntu> marcoagpinto, reduce your screen resolution and reduce RAM use even more :-)
[20:27] <marcoagpinto> JimBuntu: What?! The software was suppose to use at least 1080p
[20:27] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:27] <marcoagpinto> but I only have 1366x768
[20:27] <marcoagpinto> so, part of the options are semi-cut in the window
[21:55] <tomreyn> hehe, TJ- is dealing with the same level of expertise in #ubuntu as i have been for the past 3 hours in #kubuntu
[21:55]  * tomreyn ran out of patience again
[21:55] <sarnold> tomreyn: heh, you're both machines :)
[21:56] <tomreyn> machines would just do it, i want to shout right now
[21:57] <sarnold> hm, maybe the computers scream back at us, but at 2ghz rather than 2khz where we could hear it..
[21:58] <tomreyn> they just randomly draw more power to pay it back to us
[21:59] <sarnold> hehe
[21:59] <tomreyn> and transfer out unique ad id and browser fingerprint over 2khz to our android phones, right
[22:00] <sarnold> oh is *that* how that works..
[22:00] <jeremy31> It all goes along with the implant in your brain
[22:01] <TJ-> Have you noticed you can make 'smart' phones sulk if you cut off their network facilities, and refuse to allow 'fine' GPS service?
[22:01] <jeremy31> TJ-: figure out the grub issue from earlier today?
[22:02] <TJ-> jeremy31: remind me which one! :D
[22:02] <TJ-> oh... yeah... sheesh, so many things being juggled I'd entirely forgotten about that, seems like months ago
[22:02] <jeremy31> TJ-: I think is was USB and trying to use Legacy and EFI boot
[22:03] <tomreyn> there was someone claiming it was this way sounds transferred to android) on some security mailing list some 2 or so years ago. maybe this was around the badbios revelations, i don't rmemeber.
[22:03] <tomreyn> sarnold: ^
[22:03] <TJ-> jeremy31: grub-efi-amd64 Conflict/Replaces grub-pc but grub-efi-amd64-signed ... doesn't
[22:03] <sarnold> I've heard about some ultrasonic advertising identifiers before..
[22:03] <tomreyn> yes thats what i read, too
[22:04] <TJ-> When your dogs start insisting on buying tat from Amazon you know there's ultrasonic ads!
[22:04] <tomreyn> but there didn't seem to be any hard evidence then
[22:04] <jeremy31> TJ-: Not sure what grub efi I have installed but the drive still works in Legacy and EFI mode
[22:04] <tomreyn> hehe tj
[22:05] <TJ-> jeremy31: it works, but it annoyed me the -signed (which does the same thing as the unsigned) gets to co-install with grub-pc but unsigned doesn't
[22:05] <TJ-> jeremy31: oh! you've made me realise I forgot something vital! I didn't check grubx64.efi was copied to the removable media boot path - doh!
[22:06] <jeremy31> TJ-: did a dpkg -l | grep grub  and I see no sign of grub efi
[22:06] <TJ-> jeremy31: grub-efi-amd64{,-signed} are the 2 required for UEFI boot
[22:07] <jeremy31> TJ-: It was installed first(grub-efi-amd64) and I added the bios_grub partition later
[22:09] <TJ-> the installer only uses grub-efi-amd64 which is useless for 18.04 FDE (won't work) so I needed to replace the boot-loader with the locally built one, but that requires using "grub-install --no-uefi-secure-boot ..."
[22:10] <TJ-> oops, s/only uses grub-efi-amd64-signed/
[22:12] <jeremy31> I didn't try with FDE, I just was trying to get a SSD with a Linux install to work with an older laptop
[22:16] <TJ-> interesting, booting the same installed USB device in a VM, it is blazing fast as an IDE disk but quite slothful as a virtio disk
[22:16] <TJ-> also IDE is UEFI boot, VirtIO is BIOS but that shouldn't make a difference