=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
[04:59] <flocculant> albinard: that bug is reported often - I stopped bothering about 5 years ago, check launchpad for recent ones - I thought guiverc was seeing it
[04:59] <flocculant> Unit193: imagine that ;)
[05:01]  * guiverc is lost re: bug/topic, but if I can help let me know..
[05:02] <flocculant> guiverc: seem to remember you talking about the no prompt to remove media a short while back
[05:04] <guiverc> okay... saw it too on 18.04.3 testing (though it had different message; it was restart your system as I recall)...   the issue wasn't unique to xubuntu though
[05:07]  * Unit193 never has any idea what's going on.
[05:11] <flocculant> Unit193 is in the best place 
[05:11] <flocculant> I'm there too 
[05:12] <Unit193> I don't think I'd wish for anyone to be where I'm at.
[09:30] <bluesabre> Unit193: I think that'd be cool, if you'd be up to it. I can bet plenty of folks would be happy with an xfce 4.14 option for bionic
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[20:12] <k3dar7> hi, have please anyone working Xubuntu18.04-64bit+PPA-Staging with Intel GPU? for me stop working some week ago (while pre2?), and i think problem is with Intel GPU/Drv incompabilites... after login segfault xfwm4 and/or xfce4-session and/or xfce4-panel and keep only desktop with icon, without panel and without window manager, is possible run terminal from right-click-desktop-menu byt cursor is not active...
[20:12] <k3dar7> tested with Thinkpad T420(i7-2640M)/X220(i5-2520M) (Intel Only GPU), STX-Desktop with i3-7100T (Intel Only GPU) all is same, only working is (32bit version here) on Thinkpad T60p (CD T2500) with AMD FireGL and with desktop AMD 1950X + NvidiaGeforce
[20:13] <k3dar7> + work fine in virtual (64bit, QEMU/KVM/Virt-Manager/Spice)
[21:07] <brainwash> k3dar7: mesa bug I think
[21:07] <brainwash> or packing related
[21:08] <brainwash> found it
[21:08] <brainwash> bug 1835622
[21:08] <ubottu> bug 1835622 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Cannot start desktop session with compositor enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835622
[21:53] <k3dar7> brainwash: thx! i think this is exact bug/problem as i have, i'm going try in bug sugested ubuntu-x-swat ppa :)
[23:02] <k3dar7> brainwash: mesa from ubuntu-xswat ppa not help., but disabling compositing yes, anyway is strange that now work in xfwm4.xml change use_compositing from true to false, bud must ppa-purge xubuntu-dev/staging, disable compositing in settings, add back ppa+upgrade... is other place where Xfce save compositing settings? i try backup and show diff for whole .config + .local with and without compositing (switched via desktop/settings) a
[23:02] <k3dar7> nd not show any different only in xfwm4.xml
[23:03] <brainwash> k3dar7: changes to the xml files usually have no effect while Xfce is running
[23:04] <Unit193> k3dar7: With regards to that, can't you just downgrade xfwm4?
[23:20] <k3dar7> brainwash: after change xml ofcourse i restart lightdm (not system restart), with ppa-purge/change_in_gui/add_ppa cycle i too not restart system, only lightdm and Xfce start fine (without compositing), now tested on another (Lenovo Yoga Y300) and same, for compositing off i must repeat same purge..add cycle :) if i in Xfce 4.14 without compositing enable compositing in GUI, then xfwm4/panel crash and disable via xml/lightdm_restar
[23:20] <k3dar7> t not work and again must whole strange cycle for disabling :-D
[23:21] <k3dar7> Unit193: hi, not try yed downgrade only xfwm4, i try after some test
[23:28] <k3dar7> Unit193: you right, with downgrade xfwm4 only is possible with PPA enabled/Xfce4.14_installed success login and enable/disable Compositing via GUI settings :)
[23:34] <k3dar7> brainwash: Unit193: i find problem with disabling via xml, with lightdm restart or stop/start, is still previous xfconfd running, if i stop lightdm, kill xfconfg and start lightdm then is possible with Xfce4.14(without downgrade xfwm4) disable compositing, this is better for debuging :)
[23:37] <k3dar7> Unit193: btw (you know, longtime question:) what about xfce4-panel and xfce4-terminal in ppa for 18.04? for terminal is only need include ubuntu_vte_no_regex.patch present in stock 18.04 xfce4-terminal source :-)