[00:00] <tsimonq2> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=eoan&arch=ppc64el&package=packer&trigger=packer/1.3.4%2Bdfsg-4 is an example, full docs can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure#Test_request_format
[00:01] <tsimonq2> Er, those docs are missing a parameter. :/
[00:01] <tsimonq2> Sec, I'm going to document that real quick.
 *blames Simon*
[00:03] <tsimonq2> So, there's a way you can submit an autopkgtest as a sponsor for someone else.
[00:03] <tsimonq2> I know that parameter exists.
[00:03] <tsimonq2> I'm going to try to find it from when I was doing it.
 when you find that share please :P
[00:05] <tsimonq2> requester
[00:05] <tsimonq2> That's the key
[00:05] <tsimonq2> And then the value is a Launchpad ID.
[00:05] <tsimonq2> Putting in the docs...
[00:05] <tsimonq2> Well, first let me verify it works with kc2bez 
 you could try and queue the nginx autopkgtest with me as your requester 😜
 if you really need a test.
[00:06] <tsimonq2> No, the person shouldn't have upload access to the package at hand.
 though i know it'll pass, 'cause i just uploaded a security fixes nginx to Eoan earlier xD
[00:06] <tsimonq2> I'm reading the code for this and I'm unsure if that will stop it.
 well let me know :)
[00:07] <tsimonq2> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi/?release=eoan&arch=ppc64el&package=packer&trigger=packer%2F1.3.4%2Bdfsg-4&requester=kc2bez
[00:07] <tsimonq2> I did that.
 Hello
[00:07] <tsimonq2> Let's see if it'll do the thing.
[00:07] <tsimonq2> Okay, so the request submitted.
[00:07] <tsimonq2> Let's see if it shows up in the results.
 I installed Lubuntu 18.04lts, how can I help them with future releases?
 @apollonys [I installed Lubuntu 18.04lts, how can I help them with future releases?], What would you like to help with? :)
 Send analytics data or something non programming
[00:13] <tsimonq2> packer is no longer showing up in http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running - it'll take a min for it to show up on http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/p/packer/eoan/ppc64el
 @apollonys [Send analytics data or something non programming], Do you want to actively be involved in the project?
 Doesnt matter, I just wanna help people who are developing Lubuntu thats on my laptop 😄
[00:24] <tsimonq2> hmmmmmmmmm
[00:24] <tsimonq2> Why didn't this test result show up yet...
 @apollonys [Doesnt matter, I just wanna help people who are developing Lubuntu thats on my l …], Stick around and there will be plenty of ways to help :)
[00:29] <wxl> @apollnys support, bug triage, and testing are three great ways to get started
[00:31] <kc2bez> @apollonys I can think of another way too:  Proofread the manual at https://manual.lubuntu.me/ If you notice any issues let us know. The reading can help with all the things wxl ^ mentioned too.
 Sure thing, I will
[00:35] <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 looks like you broke it :P
 but @apollonys has 18.04, the manula is for 18.10 onward or not?
[00:53] <kc2bez> Indeed it is but that is what we are currently developing.
 I know, but maybe we can help bug trianging 18.04
 or start moving to 19.04....
 @apollonys have you tried 19.04?
[00:55] <kc2bez> That is true, all good things. @HMollerCl
 @HMollerCl [@apollonys have you tried 19.04?], Not yet, its not lts.
 the thing is that we made a huge change, 18.04 is the last with lxde desktop environment, now we have lxqt-
 and lxqt is better supported now, even if it's not lxqt
 the only problem with >18.04 is that it's only for 64bit.
 (oversimplified explanation)
 so, there are things to do in 18.04, like bug triaging, and support. But the most is happening in 19.04.
 Or 19.10 which will be released in october
 wxl: fixed D30 changelog
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 @HMollerCl when is 19 version with lts is coming??
 there is no 19.x version of LTS
[01:32] <kc2bez> @apollonys LTS releases happen every 2 years
 not for Lubuntu, not for Ubuntu
 @apollonys the next LTS will be 20.04 I believe
 Alright
[01:44] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: Okay, so a retry did fail.
[01:44] <tsimonq2> Trying again with the one in release.
[01:45] <kc2bez> tsimonq2: I see it in running.
[01:49] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[01:51] <kc2bez> Looks like it finished up.
[01:51] <tsimonq2> Right, it'll just take a few for results to publish.
[01:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd4702bb7b045: Add package needed to build a pdf file] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd4702bb7b045
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[02:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Fix DND with MTP devices] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1999
[03:04] <wxl> @apollonys we're going to be dropping lxde like a bad habit as soon as we can. the upstream developers have long stalled on making changes. lxqt development is feverish. sometimes we report bugs upstream and immediately have a fix. that said, you *WILL* have a better experience and better support with 19.04 than 18.04.
 @wxl [<wxl> @apollonys we're going to be dropping lxde like a bad habit as soon as we …], Alright.👍
[04:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T56: Transfer testcases to the actual testcase branch] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T56#2000
[06:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T56: Transfer testcases to the actual testcase branch] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T56#2001
[14:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T4: Make it lighter] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4#2002
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/TNiU6TE.jpg
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<reply to image>], @HMollerCl
 Don't worry about ut
 We don't do Travis stuff
 that link was in the readme of rART
 Let's delete it then :)
 I wcould do that. I am adding grub theme to it.
 Will edit the readme also
 I added the grub theme to `/src/usr/share/grub/themes/lubuntu-grub-theme` where do I make changes so that while installing, it gets copied from there to where it's required?
 I guess the following line: … `usr/share/grub/themes/lubuntu-default-theme /boot/grub/themes/` should be added to `/debian/lubuntu-artwork.install` ? That's what I did while creating the debian package for the theme.
 @tsimonq2 wxl: @aptghetto ?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [I guess the following line: … usr/share/grub/themes/lubuntu-default-theme /boot/gr …], The leading slash on the second entry (space separated) shouldn't be there
 you mean `themes` instead of `themes/` ?
 ohh yes you are right
 `usr/share/grub/themes/lubuntu-default-theme boot/grub/themes/`
 `lubuntu-grub-theme /boot/grub/themes` This is what I did in debian packaging.
 @tsimonq2 [usr/share/grub/themes/lubuntu-default-theme boot/grub/themes/], Any reason as to why like this?
 Also, apart from that change, A line needs to be added to `/etc/default/grub` Where should that go?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Any reason as to why like this?], It's installed to the package, not to the system in which it is being compiled
 yeah. understood. So if that slash is there, the theme will get installed to live system.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, apart from that change, A line needs to be added to /etc/default/grub Wher …], This one goes to prerm, and postinst files I guess?
 simillar to debian packaging?
 But I was wondering that if there should be separate lubuntu-grub-theme.postinst, .prerm and .install files like that of artwork?
 I think there should be. what say?
 Side query, When I created the debian package, I got the debian/ folder in my local repo. Should I push it to git?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Side query, When I created the debian package, I got the debian/ folder in my lo …], @tsimonq2 @HMollerCl @kc2bez wxl: Anyone?
 which package?
 also, re: adding lubunut-grub-theme.  … In the postinst file, I append a line to /etc/default/grub  … How do I know that by the time the theme is installed, that grub file is created? It is mostly created at the end of the installation na?
 @HMollerCl [which package?], lubuntu-grub-theme
 giving that this exists: grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate/eoan 0.3.7 all … grub2-themes-ubuntustudio/eoan 0.2 all
 I would assume that it is a .deb package and you need to push it
 Yup! it is a deb package and already in a ppa: … https://launchpad.net/~theloudspeaker/+archive/ubuntu/lubuntu-grub-theme-devel
 @The_LoudSpeaker [also, re: adding lubunut-grub-theme.  … In the postinst file, I append a line to / …], about this what do you say?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [also, re: adding lubunut-grub-theme.  … In the postinst file, I append a line to / …], @HMollerCl
 or @kc2bez or @tsimonq2 or wxl; or anyone else?
 yes, if it is a .deb it needs to has a debian folder
 @HMollerCl [yes, if it is a .deb it needs to has a debian folder], okay. I will push it. But I am more concerened about rART. scroll up.
 travis??
 not travis.
 @HMollerCl [travis??], gilir set that up before most of the current contributors came here
 @The_LoudSpeaker [not travis.], what is your concern about rart then?
 for installing the grub theme, After coping the required files, I need to append a line to /etc/default/grub to set it up completely. I could add that to .postinst file. but the question is, how do I know that when the .postinst file is run, the /etc/default/grub file already exists? Ususally it is created at the end of instal
 everything in rART gets installed before grub is installed right?
 tl.dr: which file in what repo should I ammend so that while creating /etc/default/grub, a line is ammended to it?
[20:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, wxl: any update on new release of lxqt-globalkeys? https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/issues/130 
 @The_LoudSpeaker [tl.dr: which file in what repo should I ammend so that while creating /etc/defau …], I would create the /etc/default/grub file in https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/
 but, better ask wxl or @tsimonq2
[20:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Fix DND with MTP devices] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#2003
 wxl is away atm I guess. And @tsimonq2 any thots?
[21:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Cleanup for lubuntu-update-notifier prior to uploading] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2004
[21:28] <TJ-> The_Loudspeaker you don't touch /etc/default/grub, you drop the fragment in a file on its own in /etc/default/grub.d/<yourname>.cfg 
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[23:00] <wxl> sorry ya'll. hard drive and/or cpu/motherboard pooped out on me at work yesterday, so that was kind of a bust. and now i'm sick.
[23:01] <kc2bez> Sorry to hear that wxl I hope you feel better soon. 
[23:03] <kc2bez> I hope your computer feels better too :D
[23:03] <wxl> yeah well i got a new one, so it's all good
[23:05] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i thoguht there was a discussion on T30 about not changing the file due to the fact that it's not under out control
[23:06] <wxl> but you might want to go check with MATE and Studio and see what they do since they seem to have their own GRUB theme
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[23:08] <lynorian> feel better soon wxl
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