[00:45] <kinghat> ran boot repair and at the end it said: "Please do not forget to make your BIOS boot on sdb1/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi file!" i dont recall being able to do that in bios?
[00:47] <kinghat> i installed another os on a different disk on my system and it took over the grub menu. now when i install a new kernel on ubuntu it doesnt show up in the list so i ran the boot repair to see if it would "overtake" what the other os setup for grub.
[00:48] <kinghat> not sure what i need to do to flip it back over or show all of the kernels that this os has installed.
[00:48] <EriC^^> kinghat: it should work if you ran boot-repair
[00:49] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[00:49] <kinghat> after i restarted it just showed what it has always shown and none of the newer kernels i have installed.
[00:49] <EriC^^> oh
[00:49] <EriC^^> type 'sudo efibootmgr -v' and paste in a link
[00:50] <kinghat> i didnt remember what boot repair said in the first repair other than it was successful and to restart so i ran it again to get the message and it failed. also here is what grub customizer says: https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/3d412b484a75d60c/image.png
[00:51] <kinghat> EriC^^: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c65a9e95/
[00:52] <EriC^^> kinghat: aha
[00:52] <EriC^^> kinghat: and you're booted in ubuntu right now?
[00:52] <kinghat> ya
[00:53] <EriC^^> kinghat: type "sudo efibootmgr -o 0001,0007,0000,0003,0004,0008"
[00:55] <magic_ninja> how about those nvidia beta drivers with primus offloading :)
[00:55] <kinghat> EriC^^: then restart?
[00:55] <magic_ninja> *optimus sorry
[00:55] <EriC^^> kinghat: type "sudo ls -lR /boot/efi" and paste
[00:56] <kinghat> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2a5facd8/
[00:58] <EriC^^> kinghat: and "sudo cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg"
[00:58] <Bashing-om> magic_ninja: Have you tested: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-435.17-Linux-Driver ?
[00:58] <kinghat> EriC^^: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6a919544/
[01:00] <EriC^^> kinghat: sudo lsblk -f | awk '$4 == "/" {print $3}'
[01:00] <magic_ninja> Bashing-om, I left my ubunutu laptop at work today or I would. It just got released.
[01:01] <kinghat> EriC^^: didnt print anything
[01:01] <EriC^^> kinghat: try sudo lsblk -f
[01:01] <EriC^^> see if the mountpoint at "/" is 219dc9b4-8cb3-431c-9356-26969f209238
[01:01] <magic_ninja> looks like there is some config to be done as well http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/435.17/README/primerenderoffload.html
[01:02] <magic_ninja> And it also looks like x needs updated.
[01:02] <kinghat> EriC^^: nah its: dc554724-0076-4090-b073-2e72202e05b9
[01:02] <EriC^^> kinghat: oh, type "grub-install"
[01:02] <EriC^^> sorry sudo grub-install
[01:03] <kinghat> install finished no error reported
[01:03] <EriC^^> 'sudo update-grub'
[01:03] <kinghat> done
[01:04] <EriC^^> kinghat: sudo efibootmgr -v
[01:04] <kinghat> EriC^^: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/15d87d95/
[01:05] <EriC^^> kinghat: it looks like you're booted into "neon" right now not ubuntu?
[01:05] <kinghat> ya
[01:05] <EriC^^> wth dude?
[01:05] <EriC^^> xD
[01:06] <magic_ninja> In this case it didn't make a difference.
[01:07] <Bashing-om> magic_ninja: Yeah, but Nvidia provides the patched Xorg :)
[01:07] <EriC^^> kinghat: why'd you say you're booted into ubuntu earlier?
[01:09] <kinghat> EriC^^: oh i guess thought you meant whatever i was on atm. but i dont want the grub from the others just this one.
[01:09] <kinghat> its like when i installed the last os it took over the grub install.
[01:09] <EriC^^> kinghat: i meant whatever you were on, that's right
[01:10] <EriC^^> kinghat: are you booted into ubuntu right now or neon?
[01:10] <kinghat> no on neon.
[01:11] <EriC^^> ok
[01:11] <EriC^^> kinghat: type "sudo efibootmgr -o 0001,0000,0007,0003,0004,0008" again
[01:12] <EriC^^> kinghat: then "sudo blkid" and paste
[01:13] <kinghat> EriC^^: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d25f8cde/
[01:15] <EriC^^> kinghat: i dont see any ubuntu partitions there, odd, unless it's /dev/sda1
[01:15] <EriC^^> kinghat: try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'
[01:15] <EriC^^> and see what's inside "cat /mnt/etc/issue"
[01:16] <kinghat> not such file or directory
[01:16] <EriC^^> kinghat: i think you removed ubuntu while installing neon, cause both used the /dev/sdb1 efi partition
[01:16] <kinghat> no*
[01:16] <EriC^^> kinghat: type "sudo parted -ls"
[01:17] <EriC^^> how important was the ubuntu install to you? do you want it back or no?
[01:18] <kinghat> maybe it was the manjaro install? nah im just testing things out atm
[01:18] <kinghat> only neon is important has unsaved things atm
[01:18] <EriC^^> oh ok
[01:19] <EriC^^> i doubt it's still there, but what does parted -ls show?
[01:19] <kinghat> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/43c1ac81/
[01:21] <EriC^^> kinghat: looks pretty gone, all space is used up by neon filesystem
[01:21] <EriC^^> kinghat: what's inside "ls -l /mnt" seems some ext4 filesystem is there
[01:22] <kinghat> thats just my playground ssd nothing on it.
[01:23] <EriC^^> kinghat: ah alright
[01:25] <kinghat> if its gone how come it was showing up in the boot data?
[01:27] <EriC^^> kinghat: it's still in the efi partition (grub) and the uefi list in the motherboard
[01:27] <kinghat> oh i see
[01:32] <kinghat> wonder why adding kernels doesnt update grub
[01:47] <FaTaL_G> evening (EST here).... When I try to "ifup" my br0 (interfaces bridge), it says "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"  what file do I look at to try to figure out what file it means?
[01:48] <FaTaL_G> itall works... I jsut wnat to learn why it says that then tells me it fails to bring up the interface even though it clearly worked
[01:52] <wholesum> i'm inside a bionic container (host is debian 10), and lz4 is "bash: lz4: command not found"
[01:53] <wholesum> already did "apt-get install --reinstall liblz4-1"
[01:53] <wholesum> as it was installed
[01:54] <wholesum> which liblz4, which liblz4-1, which lz4, which unlz4: all empty
[01:56] <sarnold> wholesum: try liblz4-tool
[01:57] <wholesum> sarnold: liblz4-tool: command not found
[01:58] <sarnold> wholesum: apt install liblz4-tool  :D
[01:58] <wholesum> sarnold: but i could install it!
[01:58] <wholesum> :)
[01:58] <wholesum> thank you!
[02:08] <kinghat> EriC^^: should I just remove the Ubuntu entries from the efi partition and change the boot order?
[02:10] <kinghat> and doesn't the UEFI list in the mobo get it's info from the efi partition?
[02:26] <timplaz> why can't I change resolution in KDE?
[02:34] <sarnold> timplaz: can you change resolution using xrandr?
[03:02] <magic_ninja> Bashing-om, I didn't know that. I've stayed away from the installer for a while now.
[03:05] <Bashing-om> magic_ninja: That ^ for those willing to install/test the NVIDIA 435.17 driver.
[03:06] <Bashing-om> magic_ninja: Keep in mind our PPA people will do a much better job of testing - and will release in due time :P
[03:09] <kinghat> if i go to any other boot item other than manjaro i just get the grub> prompt. possible to wipe it all or add it back in or something?
[03:12] <magic_ninja> Bashing-om, I'll have to see about the PPA's. I'm perfectly comfortable with the installer, it is just easier to let the system handle it. I've been thinking about moving my desktop over, but honestly buster is really nice on here.
[03:13] <inv3nt0r> Evening folks!
[03:13] <inv3nt0r> Is there an easy way to migrate a persistent USB installation to a "real" disk?
[03:14] <inv3nt0r> Basically what I have on a 4GB USB stick I want to migrate to a 1TB SSD and carry on like nothing changed.
[03:14] <Bashing-om> magic_ninja: Drifting off topic now - to continue please join #ubuntu-discuss :)
[03:14] <magic_ninja> I'm not joining another channel, thank you though.
[03:24] <inv3nt0r> I believe I created the stick with unetbootin, and have spent a lot of time configuring the system. At this point, I really don't want to abandon it, but need more space.
[03:24] <Bashing-om> magic_ninja: I just looked .. and that new driver is in the PPA : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa for the forthcoming 19.10 release :)
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> inv3nt0r: dd clone the usb to your ssd
[03:25] <inv3nt0r> Is it just a matter of DD-ing the USB stick to the new disk, then reconfiguring grub?
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> inv3nt0r: did you change something on grub?
[03:26] <inv3nt0r> No, but I assume the bootloader points at the USB stick
[03:26] <inv3nt0r> By GUID or /sda? or whatever
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> inv3nt0r: you could check grub after clone sure
[03:27] <magic_ninja> That is awesome
[03:27] <magic_ninja> would 19.04 have that driver?
[03:28] <inv3nt0r> I guess there is no consequence to dd-ing the USB to the other disk. Regrettably I am booted from it now and will have to boot from yet another USB lol
[03:28] <magic_ninja> doesn't appear so
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> magic_ninja: driver choices are related to your cards chipset
[03:28] <Bashing-om> magic_ninja: Not yet :P
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> inv3nt0r: yeah, better not clone something live
[03:30] <magic_ninja> Well, gotta use my computer to install a pit pump tomorrow, then I have some alarming and pressure monitoring to set up on a glycol system, so no testing for a couple weeks.
[03:30] <inv3nt0r> lotuspsychje: The reason I am here is because I used the installer, it booted once to the new install, then, on reboot would only boot to the USB again. If it wasn't plugged in the new install didnt seem to exist.
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> inv3nt0r: if i was you, i would fresh install on the ssd, assuming thats gonna be your new system for a long time, tweak that fresh?
[03:32] <Bashing-om> inv3nt0r: If you check, bet that the grub install defaulted to sda - and the system saw the USB as device sda.
[03:34] <inv3nt0r> It likely did... I can fix that from my live USB though I would assume... BIOS (UEFI or whatever nowadays) is pointed at "SDB" and it seemed to fail, then fell back on the USB and booted fine
[03:34] <inv3nt0r> So can I somehow fix GRUB from the live usb to point at SDB? If so then giddy up. Just found it very odd that it worked once right after install
[03:35] <magic_ninja> Fun tip: remove your live USB before running update-grub
[03:35] <magic_ninja> inv3nt0r, you using uefi?
[03:35] <inv3nt0r> Like if GRUB worked once, why not the second time after successful boot?
[03:35] <Bashing-om> inv3nt0r: One can re-install grub to the hard drive. IF an UEFI install I have bo experince there :(
[03:35] <inv3nt0r> magic_ninja: I assume it us UEFI, the machine is about 3 years old
[03:36] <magic_ninja> depends on how the OS was installed. If UEFI or if Legacy
[03:36] <inv3nt0r> I will say almost 100% UEFI
[03:37] <magic_ninja> so you can put in the USB, then you can boot from your hard drive?
[03:37] <inv3nt0r> I built this box a few years ago to use as a hypervisor. A buddy of mine runs a primitive operating system under it that operates a vinyl cutter
[03:37] <magic_ninja> grub was just installed on the usb?
[03:39] <inv3nt0r> If the USB is in a plug, it boots. If not, no operating system found. However, after I ran the installer from the USB, it booted *without the USB* from SDB1. Fiddled around for 20 mins, recreated FSTAB, installed MDADM etc, then on reboot, wouldn't go from SDB
[03:39] <inv3nt0r> Now, if I boot with USB in, I can get back to square one.
[03:39] <inv3nt0r> And here we are.
[03:40] <magic_ninja> You fiddled with your fstab heh
[03:40] <inv3nt0r> I'm certain there is an operating system present on SDB.
[03:40] <magic_ninja> anyway, boot into the OS
[03:40] <magic_ninja> pastebin me sudo fdisk -l please
[03:40] <inv3nt0r> I fiddle with lots of things... man mount/etc.
[03:40] <inv3nt0r> kidding of course, not that there's anything wrong with that as per seinfeld.
[03:43] <magic_ninja> fiddling is fine, you just change it back if it does nothing or doesn't have the desired effect.
[03:44] <inv3nt0r> Yes of course. My config is simple really. Two disks in a mirrored MDADM array that I use to store VirtualBox disks in.
[03:45] <inv3nt0r> So I automount everything on boot, then run a script with a 30 second delay to launch VirtualBox with volumes contained within.
[03:45] <inv3nt0r> TeamViewer launches after a 2 minute delay automatically so I can admin the box remotely.
[03:45] <magic_ninja> so /dev/sda has your efi partition
[03:45] <magic_ninja> Is that a static disk?
[03:46] <inv3nt0r> Being an idiot, I assumed a 4GB USB stick was adequate for this purpose. Over time, log files, temp files etc seem to have filled it.
[03:47] <inv3nt0r> I don't know if sda contains the EFI partition
[03:47] <inv3nt0r> If that is system default then probably
[03:47] <inv3nt0r> If you can imagine, I'm not an idiot but I'm also not a trained professional. Dangerous.
[03:48] <magic_ninja> You have a raid setup and stuff, so idk. What disk has your main OS on it
[03:49] <inv3nt0r> I'm running from /dev/sdj
[03:49] <inv3nt0r> Which is a thumb drive. My plan was that we have an identical copy of it, so... if anything fails we just swap thumb drives
[03:50] <inv3nt0r> Basically re-image in as much time as it takes to shut down, swap, boot. About 5 mins.
[03:51] <magic_ninja> This has the info you need. https://emmanuel-galindo.github.io/en/2017/04/05/fixing-debian-boot-uefi-grub/
[03:51] <magic_ninja> You can skip right to this heading : Reinstall grub-efi
[03:52] <magic_ninja> Pull out that pesky USB drive before you do it or you will get errors
[03:53] <inv3nt0r> Thanks for the Coles Notes version. I do realize that I should always RTFM but it is nice when someone helps you cut to the crap.
[03:54] <inv3nt0r> So I'm good to pull even though operating from?
[03:55] <magic_ninja> Well, provided you remove that USB drive, you can't screw up your grub
[03:55] <inv3nt0r> Makes sense.
[03:55] <magic_ninja> So, I mean, you can always use the USB drive.
[03:56] <inv3nt0r> So it is running from ramdisk or something?
[03:56] <magic_ninja> Just don't go moving around cables yet. My mobo's firmware is bugged, so I have had to do that several times when moving drives.
[03:56] <magic_ninja> Lets clear this up. I am under the impression that you are booted into your primary OS on your main disk, it is just that grub is installed on your usb drive instead of your main hard drive.
[03:57] <inv3nt0r> No.
[03:57] <inv3nt0r> Let's start from the beginning.
[03:57] <inv3nt0r> This box boots from a USB thumb drive, which the OS sees as /dev/sdj
[03:58] <magic_ninja> Then follow that tutorial from the begging.
[03:58] <inv3nt0r> I've been running from it for years, but it seems to have filled up with whatever crap like cache / log files etc.
[03:58] <magic_ninja> so you don't have a main OS disk?
[03:59] <magic_ninja> Your / is on the usb drive?
[03:59] <inv3nt0r> I installed to /dev/sdb (as /dev/sdc has something on it that I'm unsure of). sdc and sdd are my RAID mirror from which I run my VirtualBox VM.
[03:59] <inv3nt0r> Yes. / is on sdj
[03:59] <inv3nt0r> The USB thumb drive.
[04:00] <magic_ninja> Oh, well then you didn't install to /dev/sdb
[04:00] <magic_ninja> you installed to /dev/sdj
[04:00] <inv3nt0r> I did install to /dev/sdb, just minutes ago.
[04:00] <inv3nt0r> *from* /dev/sdj
[04:00] <magic_ninja> oh, you copied it over?
[04:00] <inv3nt0r> I was attempting to get away from this thumb drive crap
[04:01] <magic_ninja> coulda had a new install done by now.
[04:01] <inv3nt0r> No, I used the Ubuntu installer
[04:01] <magic_ninja> okay.
[04:01] <inv3nt0r> Whatever it is called.
[04:01] <inv3nt0r> And.... it worked!
[04:01] <magic_ninja> so you have no clue where grub is installed..
[04:01] <inv3nt0r> Once. Then on reboot, GRUB effed up.
[04:01] <magic_ninja> Then follow that tutorial, chroot into your new install, reinstall grub
[04:01] <inv3nt0r> The installer offered the opportunity to put GRUB wherever. So, I chose SDB
[04:02] <magic_ninja> Do it from a live usb disk rather than your current usb disk
[04:02] <magic_ninja> OR, you can just reinstall and pay more attention this time.
[04:02] <inv3nt0r> I figured, put GRUB on the disk that I'm going to use as main disk.
[04:03] <inv3nt0r> So let's back up. If I put GRUB on sdb, made all of my partitions there (manually because that was the only way), set BIOS to boot from SDB, it worked once, why did it fail on reboot?
[04:03] <inv3nt0r> I swear I've experienced this before... like deja vu...
[04:04] <inv3nt0r> Everything's going great, installing software, looking great, reboot..... big fail...
[04:04] <magic_ninja> because you changed something when you were booted into the OS
[04:04] <magic_ninja> and didn't realize it.
[04:04] <inv3nt0r> I see.
[04:04] <magic_ninja> For instance, fiddling with fstab
[04:04] <magic_ninja> is just one possibility
[04:05] <inv3nt0r> Stands to reason :)
[04:05] <magic_ninja> So, you can either reinstall, or you can boot into a live disk and follow that tutorial
[04:05] <inv3nt0r> You've seen that pastebin...
[04:06] <inv3nt0r> Should GRUB be on SDA?
[04:06] <magic_ninja> yes
[04:06] <inv3nt0r> Even if / is on SDB ?
[04:06] <magic_ninja> yes it should be on sda
[04:06] <magic_ninja> yes
[04:06] <inv3nt0r> Can it be on SDB if I config BIOS different?
[04:06] <inv3nt0r> Or if I config GRUB different?
[04:07] <magic_ninja> nope
[04:07] <inv3nt0r> Or 3) If I create an EFI partition on SDB?
[04:07] <magic_ninja> yep
[04:07] <magic_ninja> 3
[04:07] <inv3nt0r> LOL OK well that seems like my magic_ninja_ticket_to_success!
[04:07] <magic_ninja> if you had just done an install, and not changed much, I would just reinstall
[04:08] <inv3nt0r> Makes sense. Doing now.
[04:08] <magic_ninja> let it wipe the disk and handle the partitioning for you.
[04:09] <magic_ninja> I'm not sure if it is *required*, but I do /efi /boot then a separate / and /home
[04:09] <inv3nt0r> mount: /dev/sda is already mounted or /mnt/sda busy
[04:09] <inv3nt0r> why would I see that when sda isn't mounted?
[04:10] <inv3nt0r> That was output from:      mount | grep sda
[04:11] <inv3nt0r> Sorry my mistake
[04:12] <inv3nt0r> Mount | grep sda returns null
[04:12] <inv3nt0r> LOL sorry I should have mounted sda1
[04:13] <inv3nt0r> I've lost it.
[04:14] <inv3nt0r> As it appears, there is a fully functional installation in sda2
[04:16] <jack> hi
[04:16] <inv3nt0r> So I believe that I have gotten to the bottom of things. The EFI partition on /dev/sda is booting from /dev/sdj
[04:18] <JFox762> hi
[04:21] <JFox762> hi
[04:22] <inv3nt0r> JFox762: Hey
[04:22] <inv3nt0r> JFox762: Do you happen to be from Canada?
[04:23] <JFox762> no
[04:23] <JFox762> why?
[04:23] <inv3nt0r> JFox762: OK way off, a strange coincidence then.
[04:34] <kinghat> can I use Ubuntu server install disk expert mode on an Ubuntu desktop install?
[04:47] <JFox762> is there such a thing as a gui Snap manager?
[04:50] <sarnold> I think there's a software store or snap store or similar application
[05:35] <Mirit> Howdy folks. I'm having some trouble dual-booting  Ubuntu and Windows 10 (With Win10 being the primary OS). I can't get the GRUB loader to show up when I boot the machine, it just loads straight into Windows. After researching a bit, I suspect it may be due to UEFI but I'm not 100% sure, and I can't seem to find a working solution. Could anyone hel
[05:35] <Mirit> p a gal out? :)
[05:36] <sarnold> Mirit: I think you need to restart windows -- shutting down windows these days just does a suspend or something similar
[05:36] <sarnold> Mirit: I think there's a way to disable "fast reboot" in windows, but don't know if that's via the bios interface or windows interface
[05:37] <Mirit> sarnold: I've tried rebooting a few times to no avail, but I'll take a peek into the fastboot and see if that solves it, thank you :)
[05:38] <sarnold> Mirit: oh :( dang
[05:42] <Mirit> No luck on the FastBoot front either... I did try this command to no avail as well: bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[05:43] <Mirit> To clarify, the command was accepted successfully but nothing has changed. It still boots straight into windows.
[05:43] <sarnold> Mirit: ugh :(
[05:44] <sarnold> lotuspsychje: any chance you're still around? this feels like something you're liable to have seen :) ^^
[05:44] <Mirit> The BIOS on this machine seems pretty archaic too... Not many options.
[05:59] <Mirit> Aha, I may have found a potential solution. I left Rufus at it's default settings, which was MBR for partition scheme. My disk is GPT though . Gonna rebuild the bootable stick and see if reinstalling it that way fixes it.
[06:01] <sarnold> Mirit: hmm, you may need to disable UEFI or Secure Boot or both in order to head down that path
[06:02] <sarnold> (my newish laptop wouldn't let me switch back to legacy booting until I disabled secure boot)
[06:02] <Mirit> Perhaps, we'll see I guess, haha.
[06:02] <sarnold> alright, cool, good luck :)
[06:02] <Mirit> Ah, can I post a link to an image here? It's of my RUFUS settings.
[06:02] <sarnold> Mirit: sure
[06:06] <Mirit> https://i.imgur.com/L0ZtvEc.png This is what I've got it at now. Before it was "MBR" and "BIOS or UEFI"
[06:09] <Bashing-om> Mirit: An observation " Format Options" I would suggest that as ext4 - Fat32 is a Windows file system.
[06:11] <Mirit> Bashing-om I don't have that as an option. I only get FAT, FAT32, or NTFS. I'm creating the ISO on a windows system though so that's likely why.
[06:11] <sarnold> heh I don't get windows.. which of those are active and which of those are disabled?
[06:13] <Mirit> Don't worry, I don't get Linux :P  The whole thing is locked down because it was installing in that screenshot.  Everything there is active.
[06:14] <sarnold> ahh okay
[06:14] <Bashing-om> Mirit: Yeah - right - making up a liveUSB - then yes Fat32 is correct.
[06:18] <Mirit> Erm, so I'm the top answer on this page for installing it properly https://askubuntu.com/questions/783654/how-to-dual-boot-windows-10-and-ubuntu-on-a-hp-pavilion-g6 and I got to the part of making partitions in gparted, but it won't allow me to select Logical, only Primary. What gives?
[06:21] <Mirit> I'm following* the top answer, rather.
[06:22] <EriC^^> Mirit: gpt
[06:23] <Mirit> Could you elaborate?
[06:24] <EriC^^> Mirit: you're trying to dual boot?
[06:24] <Mirit> Yep.
[06:25] <EriC^^> Mirit: sounds like windows is installed in uefi mode
[06:25] <Mirit> It is, it's Win10
[06:25] <EriC^^> you have to install ubuntu in uefi mode as well
[06:25] <Mirit> Yeah, I am. Check the uh, imgur link I sent a few messages ago.
[06:26] <EriC^^> ah great
[06:26] <Mirit> I accidentally had it set to MBR and BIOS or UEFI on my original attempt, but my disk is actually GPT, so I'm trying again with that.
[06:26] <Mirit> For some reason though, gparted is graying out the Logical option. I'm gonna see if it lets me do it through the install menu instead.
[06:27] <EriC^^> Mirit: alright, basically you have to shrink the windows install
[06:28] <EriC^^> Mirit: did you shrink windows in windows disk management
[06:28] <Mirit> I did yeah.
[06:28] <Mirit> In the stackexchange post I linked, I pretty much did the asker's steps verbatim, except that I used RUFUS instead of Pen Drive Linux.
[06:29] <EriC^^> Mirit: alright, just choose 'install alongside windows' in the installer and it should take car eof everything
[06:29] <Mirit> Ah okay. I'm assuming it'll make Root about 20GB, detect my RAM and set the swap to the appropriate amount, and use the rest for /home?
[06:31] <Mirit> Or will it just put everything in one partition? Seems it's putting it in one partition with the "Install alongside windows" option.
[06:31] <EriC^^> yeah that's right
[06:31] <EriC^^> swap is a swap file in ubuntu 18.04+
[06:32] <Mirit> Ahh okay. The last time I touched Linux was like.. 2012 when I tried Mint haha.
[06:33] <EriC^^> yeah some stuff changed a bit
[06:33] <Mirit> And at the time, I had absolutely no idea what I was doing. I still don't ^^;
[06:33] <EriC^^> :D
[06:49] <Mirit> Groan. Still no GRUB2. I still load directly into windows.
[06:49] <jakefb> Hi everyone, after upgrading to Ubuntu 18.04 I am having an issue with systemd-modules-load
[06:49] <jakefb> systemd-modules-load.service loaded failed failed    Load Kernel Modules
[06:50] <jakefb> Is anyone available to help?
[06:51] <sarnold> is there anything in dmesg? journalctl?
[06:52] <sarnold> what modules are in /etc/modules* files? do those modules still make sense on 18.04?
[07:06] <jakefb> sarnold: just saw your message
[07:06] <jakefb> I had a look in journalctl, I think this is the problem:
[07:06] <jakefb> Aug 08 23:38:03 soba.org.nz systemd-modules-load[1253]: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/4.14.135-rh164-20190731212002.xenU.x86_64/modules.dep.bin'
[07:06] <jakefb> Aug 08 23:38:04 soba.org.nz loadkeys[1254]: Loading /etc/console-setup/cached.kmap.gz
[07:06] <jakefb> Aug 08 23:38:04 soba.org.nz systemd-modules-load[1253]: Failed to lookup alias 'acpiphp': Function not implemented
[07:07] <jakefb> Couldn't write '1' to 'kernel/yama/ptrace_scope', ignoring: No such file or directory
[07:09] <sarnold> jakefb: are you running a VPS of some sort? that kiund of looks like a redhat kernel version string
[07:09] <jakefb> Yeah it's a VPS that I upgraded from 14.04 to 18.04
[07:10] <TJ-> jakefb: looks like the hypervisor is providing the kernel, not you
[07:10] <sarnold> jakefb: they may be selling you a container of some sort rather than a VM
[07:11] <sarnold> jakefb: this might be fine, if you know that's what you're buying
[07:11] <jakefb> oh okay
[07:11] <sarnold> but it would explain why you can't load kernel modules
[07:11] <TJ-> jakefb: if it's KVM based it can be done like that (the host provides the kernel and initrd) or KVM boots with your own bootloader and kernel
[07:12] <jakefb> what does the acpiphp error mean? Seems like a php issue?
[07:13] <TJ-> jakefb: ACPI PCI Hot Plug :)
[07:13] <sarnold>  * ACPI PCI Hot Plug Controller Driver
[07:13] <sarnold> aww
[07:13] <jakefb> Ah right I see
[07:13] <sarnold> man TJ-'s quick :)
[07:13] <TJ-> man tj - page not found :)
[07:14] <jakefb> so its probably safe to ignore these errors?
[07:14] <jakefb> Should I disable the systemd systemd-modules-load.service?
[07:15] <TJ-> jakefb: 'that depends' - on what you expect to do with it. It wouldn't give me confidence in the hoster if that is there standard deployment
[07:15] <TJ-> s/there/their/
[07:17] <jakefb> I'm trying to figure out which kernel modules it is trying to load
[07:17] <jakefb> Doesn't seem like there are any
[07:17] <jakefb> root@soba:/var/www/amember# lsmod
[07:17] <jakefb> libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:1657 kmod_module_new_from_loaded: could not open /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[07:17] <jakefb> Error: could not get list of modules: No such file or directory
[07:17] <TJ-> jakefb: that service will only load modules that are listed in /etc/modules I think, so 'd want to know why there are modules in that list if the kernel is outside the guest
[07:18] <jakefb> hmm not sure maybe it got added when Ubuntu was upgraded
[07:19] <TJ-> jakefb: I cannot imagine needing acpiphp on a hosted virtual machine
[07:20] <Kendos-Kenlen> Hello :) Is it possible to create an alias interface with systemd-networkd? I have a network interface named enp3s0 and I'd like an interface enp3s0:1 to affect another IP to id and run drkl on the same interface.
[07:20] <jakefb> yeah that is true like you said if it's for PCI ports
[07:20] <TJ-> Kendos-Kenlen: aliases are no longer used, that's a concept from ifupdown. Just add the IP address directly to the interface
[07:21] <Kendos-Kenlen> TJ- I did that but it seems that drkl is not able to detect it. It only lists me the docker interface and I cannot select enp3s0 for the server and client.
[07:22] <TJ-> Kendos-Kenlen: I'm not sure what drkl is
[07:22] <Kendos-Kenlen> drbl* sorry. it's a server to run stuff through PXE such as Clonezilla (if I understand well).
[07:23] <Kendos-Kenlen> I want to setup a dump system to avoid installing each of my machines manually and Clonezilla is the solution I found. Trying to set it up
[07:23] <Kendos-Kenlen> https://drbl.org
[07:25] <TJ-> Kendos-Kenlen: would adding an entirely new (virtual) ethernet interface be a solution?
[07:26] <Kendos-Kenlen> I think so yes. I guess that if I bridge this interface to my enp3s0, it should work.
[07:26] <TJ-> Kendos-Kenlen: I've not used drbl so not sure what/how it needs configuring
[07:27] <TJ-> Kendos-Kenlen: well no, because you cannot (well not a great idea) assign an IP address to a slave interface of a bridge, so you'd be in the same situation trying to attach server and client to the bridge. I'd expect you just need to ensure routing table is correct
[07:30] <Kendos-Kenlen> Okay, I understand. Seems a bit complicated but I'll try to do this. Thank you!
[07:30] <Kendos-Kenlen> And if you know any dump tool easier to use than drbl/clonezilla, I am in!
[07:31] <MrPlayfair> hi
[07:32] <MrPlayfair> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bQtYHFyTXn/ can't update OS, prob got viruses been so long
[07:32] <MrPlayfair> what should i do?
[07:32] <EoflaOE> Hello. Looking at .config folder in my home folder, I saw a folder called gtk-4.0. Is it a sign that GNOME 4 will be released? And how can I get a package that created this folder that has settings.ini inside?
[07:33] <EoflaOE> MrPlayFair: It's a certificate issue for your report that is hosted on opensuse.org. I don't think it's a virus.
[07:35] <Mirit> Seems like the issue with GRUB not showing up is related to HP hardlocking their system to not allow other OS's to boot alongside Windows. I tried using rEFInd to no avail. I'm gonna just make a system image of Windows, make a system recovery disk, and just overwrite windows entirely. I'm not using it on that machine anyway.
[07:39] <EoflaOE> MrPlayFair: You can either let them know that it's expired and should be renewed, or you can bypass the certificate check.
[07:39] <MrPlayfair> i'll send an email
[07:41] <EoflaOE> OK. In my opinion, bypassing certificate check is not good and may compromise your system, so better wait for them to renew.
[07:41] <MrPlayfair> it has been like 4 months
[07:42] <EoflaOE> Since it's expired? Or since they are told to renew?
[07:46] <gst568923> Hi guys, I would like to know what is the equivalent of software-properties-gtk in the command line to switch the graphics card drivers?
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: what are you trying to do these few days?
[07:48] <MrPlayfair> i told them to hurry up or i will pursue them
[07:48] <MrPlayfair> idk EoflaOE but like all my programs won't update because of this
[07:48] <MrPlayfair> even some new ones won't install
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> MrPlayfair: we actually dont really support external ppa's here
[07:49] <gst568923> lotuspsychje I have a nvidia graphics card I installed the proprietary driver nividia-driver-390 but (as a supporter of open source software) I would like to switch to the nouveau driver. However, before making the switch I need to extract the firmware blob for h264 video acceleration
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: extract the firmware blob? to fallback to nouveau just: sudo apt purge nvidia*
[07:52] <gst568923> lotuspsychje I installed ubuntu 19.04 from scratch and ubuntu installed both the nvidia-driver-390 package and the nouveau package. I would like to know if I click on nouveau with the software-properties-gtk program, the nvidia-driver-390 package is removed or only a driver switch is made
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: if you use software center GUI its a driver switch and can switch back if you want
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: if you use purge on nvidia versions, you uninstall them and have the choice to install the version you want from the repo (or ubuntu graphocs ppa)
[07:56] <gst568923> lotuspsychje so software-properties-gtk with  the nvidia-driver-390 driver is not removed, only switch?
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: yes, thats the tab additional drivers, you can switch between what shows in the list
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: is there a reason you want to use nouveau?
[07:59] <gst568923> lotuspsychje yes, I think that the success of a product (software / hardware) is done by users who use it, so if each of us used only free software, perhaps vendors will be convinced to release their open drivers, perhaps developing them with a platform like github / gitlab
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: what kind of card chipset do you have?
[08:01] <gst568923> lotuspsychje nvidia GF119 [geforce gt 705]
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: ok, good luck!
[08:03] <gst568923> lotuspsychje the equivalent on the terminal of the software-properties-gtk software switch driver which would it be?
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: to fallback to nouveau: sudo apt purge nvidia*
[08:04] <gst568923> lotuspsychje no the uninstall, the switch I mean
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: this is the proper solution to goto nouveau
[08:06] <gst568923> lotuspsychje yes, but before you told me that software-properties-gtk does the switch without removing ...
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: if you are on nouveau, and want the nvidia driver again, sudo apt install nvidia-driver-390
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: or, ubuntu-drivers autoinstall to install most reccomended nvidia version
[08:08] <gst568923> lotuspsychje I know this, I wanted to know how to make the switch without removing
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: i dont think there's a magic red button cli to switch between nouveau/nvidia
[08:10] <gst568923> lotuspsychje you said it yourself: `yes, thats the tab additional drivers, you can switch between what shows in the list`
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: GUI yes
[08:11] <gst568923> lotuspsychje but the gui will refer to commands on the terminal I suppose
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> unless theres a software-properties-gtk cli trick, but i dont know it
[08:12] <chull> I'm guessing my husband needs another repository. His hard drive died and this is the backup. I tried to get 'tracet' and got: Canon TS8120
[08:12] <chull> oops E: Unable to locate package tracert
[08:13] <gst568923> however, another problem I'm having with ubuntu 19.04 is that wpa-supplicant probably wasn't compiled with PMF (Protected Management Frame) support, leaving its users exposed to wifi client authentication attacks
[08:14] <gst568923> ... deauthentication...
[08:25] <PMunch> Hi I started an apt update on a server while I went to a meeting. When I got back it was asking me a question about /boot/grub/menu.lst but the SSH connection had timed out. Now I can't run apt upgrade because the lock is already taken. Is there a way to resume my previous upgrade?
[08:33] <CoolerZ> hello
[08:33] <CoolerZ> can i use this with hexchat on ubuntu 18.04? https://github.com/horst3180/Vertex-theme
[08:34] <CoolerZ> is gtk supported?
[08:36] <CoolerZ> hmm https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3AHorst3180&package=vertex-theme
[08:36] <CoolerZ> no ubuntu 18.04
[08:38] <gst568923> ?
[08:41] <PMunch> CoolerZ, you can just install in manually
[08:43] <pengulin> Hi guys. Can someone help me? I'm trying to start a second X server on Lubuntu 16.04 so I can switch between them with Ctrl+Alt+F7/F8. Everything I found so far is for older versions and doesn't work.
[08:58] <CoolerZ> PMunch, how
[08:58] <CoolerZ> ?
[08:59] <neure> hi
[09:00] <neure> is it possible to boot latest macbooks to ubuntu natively (not virtual machine)?
[09:01] <CoolerZ> well? PMunch it says ubuntu 16.04 on the manual installation page
[09:03] <PMunch> No it doesn't? https://github.com/horst3180/Vertex-theme#installation under the "Packages" section is a "Manual Installation" section
[09:04] <PMunch> Basically just download one of the releases from here: github.com/horst3180/Vertex-theme/releases
[09:05] <PMunch> Then run "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr" and "sudo make install" in a shell in that folder
[09:05] <CoolerZ> why? https://bpaste.net/raw/LQIL
[09:05] <CoolerZ> what do you mean "not going to be installed"
[09:05] <CoolerZ> does it expect me to type in the name of every dependency when I use apt-get install?
[09:06] <Cheez> you have conflicting requirements
[09:07] <Cheez> you might have to do a dist-upgrade first (but should probably understand what is conflicting with what first)
[09:08] <CoolerZ> Cheez, how so
[09:08] <CoolerZ> "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[09:08] <CoolerZ> I have "held"?
[09:08] <CoolerZ> I have installed?
[09:09] <Cheez> you have something installed that requires version x of a lib and are trying to install something that requires version y of a lib
[09:09] <Cheez> it can't install the new thing because version x is installed and so it cant upgrade to version y
[09:09] <CoolerZ> fine whatever
[09:09] <CoolerZ> just install vertex-theme
[09:11] <CoolerZ> Cheez, that error message doesn't metion any specific version
[09:11] <CoolerZ> It just says the package names
[09:11] <CoolerZ> the 2nd one even says >=1.9.91 so it should be easy to update
[09:11] <CoolerZ> upgrade
[09:22] <MrPlayfair> is lubuntu being discontinued?
[09:23] <gst568923> guys, when I disconnect usb device from ubuntu I right click on umount and than I open gnome-disk-utility to turn off the device. It would be useful to implement a shortcut `Unmount & turn off 'which dismounts the device and then turns it off
[09:24] <furycd001> HI Guys.. Wondering if someone could help me here. I'm using feh as my image viewer, but whenever I open an image the window doesn't resize to fit the image & I'm left with an ugly border / baclground either side of the image.
[09:24] <furycd001> Here's a screenshot of what I mean / see >> http://i.imgur.com/RFn9CUk.png <<
[09:24] <furycd001> When an image is open in feh I can right click on the image and select File then Resize Window, but I would like that to be done automatically every time I open an image.
[09:24] <furycd001> I have tried creating a theme file in /.config/feh/themes adding in >> feh --scale-down --borderless --auto-zoom << but nothing seemed to change. Could someone assist me please....
[09:33] <PMunch> furycd001, try to run "feh -Tfeh <some image>" in the terminal
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> MrPlayfair: no
[09:34] <miu5> hi, where can i find out what kernel ubuntu-16.04.4-server-amd64.iso ships with by default?
[09:35] <MrCrackPot> MrPlayfair, they just switched to Qt for the DM
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> miu5: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys know
[09:35] <furycd001> @PMunch just tried that and still got the same result....
[09:36] <furycd001> Had to right click on the image still to resize the window....
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> !bug | gst568923 wishlist
[09:37] <Tahapy> hi guys anyone suggest for live background in ubuntu ? My ubuntu is 18.04
[09:38] <MrCrackPot> miu5, i believe the default kernal was 4.4
[09:38] <PMunch> furycd001, strange works fine for me
[09:38] <PMunch> Or wait, what is the path you tried to add the theme in?
[09:38] <PMunch> Is in actually /.config/feh/themes or /home/<username>/.config/feh/themes
[09:39] <furycd001> This is a fresh install done yesterday. Worked fine in my previous 16.04.06 install. Strange....
[09:40] <furycd001> full path is >> /home/furycd001/.config/feh/themes <<
[09:42] <PMunch> Ah, just realized that this is probably because I use a tiling window manager
[09:43] <PMunch> So the window w/h probably behaves differently for me anyways
[09:43] <furycd001> Yea that could be why lol. I'm using xfce....
[09:44] <gst568923> lotuspsychje I have try `https://launchpad.net/projects?text=%22Espelli+volume%22&search=Find+a+Project` to find source code of the command `Espelli volume` in english `Eject volume` but is not found!
[09:46] <gst568923> lotuspsychje where is stored `Eject volume` and `Unmount` right click menu on xfce?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: if you have a question, please adress to the channel instead of highlighting me please
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: if volunteers know, they will answer you ok
[09:48] <gst568923> lotuspsychje ok but in this channel many users appear but few answer the questions (except you)
[09:48] <miu5> MrCrackPot, 4.4 is the exact kernel?
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> patience is golden gst568923
[09:49] <MrCrackPot> miu5 yep https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support
[09:52] <MrCrackPot> ah sorry i didnt see your .4 on the end miu5 its 4.13
[09:53] <MrCrackPot> sorry about that
[10:09] <SpeCon> hello. Since i connected my ubuntu laptop with hdmi to a tv i am not able to hear sound anymore WITHOUT the hdmi in youtube video's
[10:09] <SpeCon> testing the speakers in the control panel => sound ( left and right) works
[10:10] <EriC^^> SpeCon: try switching the input back to speakers
[10:10] <SpeCon> when i connected the HDMI to the tv i set output sound to TV screen
[10:10] <EriC^^> (click on speakers under output)
[10:10] <SpeCon> EriC^^, its already set to speakers
[10:10] <EriC^^> SpeCon: try messing with "pavucontrol"
[10:10] <SpeCon> i can hear sound here on HexChat without problems only youtube doesn't work
[10:11] <SpeCon> i think pavucontrol is not installed...
[10:11] <EriC^^> SpeCon: install it, the browser output should show up under playback
[10:11] <SpeCon> okay
[10:11] <SpeCon> its installing true terminal atm
[10:12] <MrCrackPot> gst568923, https://askubuntu.com/questions/961056/how-to-automatically-power-off-usb-devices-after-unmounting
[10:12] <SpeCon> EriC^^,  i'm now in pavucontrol
[10:13] <MrCrackPot> often times we wont answer if someone is seen as not googling first
[10:13] <SpeCon> i already googled it up before i came here
[10:14] <MrCrackPot> gst568923, if you would like answers faster better to google your problem try something first then post errors and what you have tried. we'd be more inclined to help otherwise we are spoon feeding and that doesnt help anyone
[10:14] <SpeCon> anyhow in pavucontrol i can see in the output internal sound digital stereo HDMI unplugged
[10:14] <SpeCon> i cannot set it to the speakers ;)
[10:15] <SpeCon> OLAAA
[10:15] <SpeCon> found it :)
[10:15] <MrCrackPot> SpeCon, my answer was directed to someone else hehe your ok hahaha
[10:15] <SpeCon> in configuration tab i switched off the internal sound to profile NONE
[10:15] <gst568923> MrCrackPot thanks :D  I have already search on google but perhaps I have entered a keyword wrong
[10:15] <SpeCon> anyhow thanks for the tip about pavucontrol
[10:16] <SpeCon> and actually i always google it up but i come here to ask for a second opinion. Because i'm not a real PRO in linux ;)
[10:16] <MrCrackPot> gst568923, my google was "power off a device after umount"
[10:16] <niid> has anyone tried installing gnome > 3.28 on ubuntu 18.04?
[10:17] <niid> is it possible?
[10:17] <gst568923> MrCrackPot double quotes help a lot!
[10:17] <MrCrackPot> to be honest this is a little off topic here but in general when googling your going to need to try at least 3 - 10 changes of the order of words etc
[10:22] <EriC^^> SpeCon: great, no problem
[10:26] <gst568923> MrCrackPot I have a doubt about the script: the first command is udisksctl unmount -b $1 and the second command is udisksctl power-off -b $1 but in this guide `https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/178638/eject-safely-remove-vs-umount` umount required sda1 poweroff sda device
[10:30] <MrCrackPot> gst568923, $1 would be the first arg supplied to the script sda and sda1 are the drive sda and partition sda1 these will change depending on your system for example if i were to close my hdd it would be unmount -b sdc1 and udisksctl power-off -b sdca
[10:30] <MrCrackPot> the script removes the 1 at the end or 2 or 3 etc etc etc
[10:31] <MrCrackPot> so you would unmount the drive number sd?? then power off the drive sd?
[10:31] <MrCrackPot> to find your device use lsblk
[10:31] <MrCrackPot> this is basic linux stuff
[10:32] <gst568923> I have try this command udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1 && udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sdb and works but I should fix the script for recognize sdb1 and sdb
[10:33] <gst568923> I can run  `udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb` ?
[10:42] <EriC^^> gst568923: i dont think so
[10:42] <EriC^^> you unmount a fs not a disk
[10:43] <EriC^^> gst568923: for a script you want to use uuid's instead of sda sdb etc
[10:45] <gst568923> EriC^^ wait let's start from the assumption that I have to create a menu entry for xfce, to take as a parameter the device to be passed to the script, I'm reading this guide .. https://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry -spec-latest.html
[10:46] <gst568923> `https://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html`
[10:48] <EriC^^> so the user is sure it's sdb not sda sdc etc?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:15] <niid> hi
[12:20] <pragmaticenigma> hello niid
[12:27] <MrCrackPot> gst568923, sorry i went to the gym you should create the script to accept an arguement as it may not always be sda1 or sda
[12:29] <MrCrackPot> and as eric mentioned your better off using uuid's but thats a little advanced for you. in the script you could have it print lsblk output to the terminal before it asks you for the fs to unmount and then the drive to power off
[12:29] <gst568923> MrCrackPot the script is to be fixed and should I create a xfce menu entry that appears when right click on usb devices
[12:35] <MrCrackPot> gst568923, thats up to you but with that im not sure exactly where you would need to edit. personally i create a bunch of scripts and but them in folder called sys-admin-scripts then i use sym links to place them in user bin so i can just use it in terminal
[12:36] <MrCrackPot> if your going to add it to the right click entry menu the script is going to need to be a little more advanced as in your going to need that right click entry to not only get the name of the fs but also the drive
[12:36] <MrCrackPot> and if that drive has many fs on it your going to want to unmount all fs before powering down
[12:37] <gst568923> MrCrackPot with
[12:37] <gst568923> MrCrackPot with an example code is comprehensive
[12:38] <TJ-> gst568923: are you trying to power down a block storage device?
[12:38] <gst568923> MrCrackPot another user tell me to use uuid otherwise of sdb sdb1 ...
[12:39] <MrCrackPot> yer he's right
[12:40] <gst568923> TJ- https://pastebin.com/uCXpkhM2
[12:41] <MrCrackPot> gst568923, that script is only good for terminal use
[12:41] <MrCrackPot> as i said if you want to add it to the right click menu it needs to be more comprehensive
[12:42] <MrCrackPot> you need to automatically find all fs attached to that drive unmount all fs then power off the drive
[12:43] <gst568923> I traditionally when I have to disconnect a usb device I click with the right button on the device mounted on the desktop and I click on the "unmount" item then I have to open gnome-disk-utility and turn off the device before physically detaching it. An automated procedure would be convenient for everyone ps: this is a lack of ubuntu
[12:43] <MrCrackPot> also that script needs to have some checks in it too. you need to check that the drive is unmounted and that there are no other fs attached to the drive
[12:44] <TJ-> gst568923: in the file-manager, bring up the context menu of the device (right-click on it) and choose "eject"
[12:44] <gst568923> MrCrackPot right
[12:44] <MrCrackPot> gst568923, not really as your assuming that the drive only has one fs. typically my drives have 3 to 4 fs attached
[12:44] <MrCrackPot> TJ that only unmounts the drive he wants to cut power to the drive also
[12:44] <TJ-> MrCrackPot: no, it ejects the device from the USB bus
[12:45] <TJ-> There are usually two options, "unmount" and "eject"
[12:45] <gst568923> TJ- "eject" unmount && poweroff the device?
[12:46] <MrCrackPot> no way sorry TJ. gst568923 hes right
[12:46] <MrCrackPot> i've never used gui to mount devises
[12:53] <gst568923> MrCrackPot "eject" menu entry also appears me, this command does it only serve to eject the cd / dvd and sd cards?
[12:53] <MrCrackPot> eject unmounts then powers off the device or ejects the cd. sd cards you have to pull out unless you have a fancy card reader that pushes them out
[12:54] <MrCrackPot> other than that and sd card is a usb stick or hdd really
[13:00] <gst568923> MrCrackPot I have a sdcard reader integrated in the desktop pc, and if I remember correctly when turning off an sdcard the gnome-disk-utility poweroff button does not work and I can only click on eject
[13:02] <gst568923> MrCrackPot Now, I have insereted a usb stick on pc and I cliccked on "eject" but in gnome-disk-utility the entry of usb stick remains ... :(
[13:03] <gst568923> MrCrackPot unmount but not poweroff
[13:07] <pragmaticenigma> gst568923: There is no need to "power down" a usb stick to remove it from the computer. I regularly use "unmount" and/or "eject" to remove my USB sticks from my machine and have never experienced any issues. You don't have to do that process in Windows, I don't know why you think it is necessary to do it in Linux/Ubuntu
[13:10] <gst568923> pragmaticenigma you're wrong on windows when you click "safe hardware removal" the LEDs on the flash drive turn off on linux no (if you don't do the poweroff). As you are telling me, probably nothing happens but I feel more secure when I click on poweroff especially if I have backup devices
[13:14] <pragmaticenigma> gst568923: The important thing is to flush any data that is in caches to disk. That is the purpose of both the Windows' "Safe Hardware Removal" and Linux "eject/unmount" commands. I have plenty of drives that leave their light on when I've unmount/ejected them. I have never lost data or corrupted a disk so long as I remember to always unmount. The extra steps you are taking, and the effort to design a tool to automate the process
[13:14] <pragmaticenigma> (specific to one device) is completely unnecessary, and probably why the volunteers here appear to have difficulty in understanding what it is you are trying to accomplish.
[13:18] <gst568923> pragmaticenigma then explain to me why the gnome-disk-utility developers have implemented the "poweroff" button.
[13:18] <pragmaticenigma> gst568923: eSata
[13:19] <gst568923> pragmaticenigma ok, but it also works on other usb devices (tested)
[13:20] <gst568923> hdd usb...
[13:23] <gst568923> pragmaticenigma however, I don't think it is expensive for ubuntu developers to add an optional "Unmount & poweroff" button
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> gst568923: because you're completely ignoring the fact that those developers have been at this for over 2 decades and probably have a lot more experience on the topic than you or I would
[13:24] <JimBuntu> gst568923, request a change or contribute the change in that case. This isn't the #ubuntu-discuss channel though. Probably lots of people happy to discuss over there.
[13:24] <pomeha> hello. What should I man to create systemd service?
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> pomeha: The internet, use a web search, look for a tutorial
[13:25] <tomreyn> systemd.service(5)
[13:25] <JimBuntu> pomeha, man systemd.service
[13:29] <gst568923> I think that users' suggestions (even if they are optional) should be heard by the ubuntu community
[13:29] <JimBuntu> gst568923, sure, but this isn't 'the community', this is the volunteer support channel. Otherwise, I 100% agree.
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> gst568923: And the proper place to do that is https://launchpad.net/ with instructions found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:31] <escanor> Hello everyone
[13:31] <tomreyn> hi there
[13:31] <escanor> I have install ubuntu 18.04 Lts on hp laptop
[13:32] <escanor> Its showing no wifi adapter found
[13:32] <gst568923> JimBuntu I have not installed ubuntu 19.04 since much, in the #ubuntu channel we can discuss know-how ....
[13:32] <gst568923> ?
[13:32] <pomeha> tomreyn: JimBuntu: thanks, that helped!
[13:32] <gst568923> escanor install last version 19.04
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> gst568923: this channel is for support, on the official Ubuntu flavors and software packages distributed through official Ubuntu and Canonical distribution networks.
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: please dont advice another ubuntu release for a wifi problem like that
[13:34] <tomreyn> escanor: please run and post:   lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:34] <tomreyn> escanor: this should output just one line, don'T post more than that, please
[13:34] <escanor> sure
[13:35] <gst568923> pragmaticenigma can I talk about wpa-supplicant (on xubuntu 19.04) that doesn't support PMF?
[13:35] <eraserpencil1> would someone help me figure out where in apt is my config wrong? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RzYPS5ZWJJ/
[13:37] <tomreyn> gst568923: the channel topic points to documentation on what's on- and offtopic for this channel. discussing what is on- and offtopic here is not a topic of this channel.
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil1: There is an issue with one of the PPAs you have installed. You will have to seek help from them as they're responsible for their own PPA maintenance
[13:39] <gst568923> tomreyn by "Official Ubuntu Support Channel" do you intend to assist with problems?
[13:39] <eraserpencil1> hmmm...i thought so, but i couldnt figure out which ppa
[13:40] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: apparently ouy had nvidia cuda packages placed at /var/cuda-repo-9-0-local - and you still have something in your apt sources point to "deb file:/var/cuda-repo-9-0-local/" ... now
[13:40] <escanor> tomreyn: I tried to run the command given by you
[13:41] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: those apt sources are configured in /etc/apt/soures.list*
[13:41] <escanor> it does not give any output
[13:41] <tomreyn> escanor: hmm, ok. does this system currently have internet access by other means?
[13:42] <escanor> yup tp link wireless adapter
[13:43] <gst568923> `NetworkManager[2484]: <error> [1565540331.2640] device (wlxe8de271e366c): Activation: (wifi) couldn't build wireless configuration: 802-11-wireless-security: Supplicant does not support PMF`
[13:43] <tomreyn> escanor: good. please have your system update information on PCI(e) and USB device IDs:  sudo update-pciids; sudo update-usbids
[13:43] <frib> I want to use bind9 for a local DNS server but resolv.conf is continually overwritten -- what is the best way to resolve this? (so far I have tried editing NetworkManager's config file and setting i+ on resolv.conf and neither has worked)
[13:44] <tomreyn> escanor: once this is done, please run:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lspci -knn;lsusb;)
[13:44] <gst568923> ps: my wifi card && my wifi modem-router support PMF
[13:44] <escanor> tomreyn: sure
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> gst568923: PMF is not widely supported as current implementations are buggy, which is why it isn't included or activated by default. The requirements for both the device and access point include having both having the needed cipher suite required for communication. If either does not, it will error out. The opensource community has a limited set of supported cipher suites, which is why it's not enabled by default. Aside from the
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> fact that has already been proven ineffective against MITM attacks.
[13:47] <tomreyn> escanor: the "lspci" command lists PCI(e) connected devices the linux kernel detected on your system, the "lsusb" device lists USB connected devices the linux kernel detected on your system. and nc termbin.com 9999 will make sure these lists are posted online at termbin.com, a so-called !pastebin
[13:47] <tomreyn> !pastebin | escanor
[13:47] <tomreyn> ^ thisis just FYI
[13:47] <escanor> i think i have port blocked by firewall
[13:48] <tomreyn> outbound TCP port 9999 is blocked, you mean?
[13:48] <gst568923> pragmaticenigma it seems strange to me what you are saying, because I tried to enable it on windwos and it works perfectly against a deauthentication attack while trying it on ubuntu the wifi clients connected to the AP are easily disconnected (for me this is a DoS attack)
[13:51] <escanor> tomreyn: hey i connected to different network and its working
[13:51] <escanor> https://termbin.com/l3le
[13:51] <escanor> Please have a look
[13:52] <tomreyn> escanor: what is "it" that is now working, the internal wifi adapter or posting the information i suggested you should post?
[13:53] <cmg0x1e> so... i've got a unkown program/pid forwarding a port, and I can't seem to kill it?
[13:53] <cmg0x1e> it shows up in netstat with no pid, it's state is LISTEN
[13:54] <escanor> tomreyn: This is the information you asked https://termbin.com/l3le
[13:54] <escanor> My problem is my internal wifi adapter is not working
[13:54] <escanor> Under settings i get wifi adapter not found
[13:57] <jeremy31> escanor:  is secure boot disabled?
[13:58] <escanor> yes
[13:58] <tomreyn> jeremy31: escanor lacks the b43 driver, i guess? or firmware? i can't tell which package is required.
[13:58] <jeremy31> Bcmwl is needed
[13:59] <tomreyn> there is broadcom-sta-dkms b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[13:59] <escanor> ok how can i install that
[13:59] <jeremy31> escanor:   sudo apt install broadcom-sta-dkms
[14:00] <tomreyn> broadcom-sta-dkms does not depend on firmware-b43-installer
[14:01] <tomreyn> (in terms of package dependencies)
[14:02] <escanor> tomreyn: Currently i am installing the package suggested by you :)
[14:02] <escanor> But i would also like to mention earlier i have followed the given link
[14:03] <escanor> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/08/no-wifi-adapter-found-hp-laptops-ubuntu-18-04/
[14:03] <jeremy31> tomreyn: that wifi uses wl and blacklists the kernel modules
[14:03] <tomreyn> escanor: hmm not sure which package and link you mean. i suggest you work with jeremy31, though, he's more into wifi than i am.
[14:04] <jeremy31> escanor:  that just covers realtek devices
[14:04] <escanor> you saw the link
[14:04] <jeremy31> escanor:  a few times
[14:05] <escanor> ok :)   What will i have to do after the package is installed ?
[14:05] <escanor> Currently its installing
[14:06] <tomreyn> please explain exactly what you are doing, "it", "this" and "the package" is not very useful, even if those were specified before.
[14:06] <tomreyn> (i.e. provide the very command you are running)
[14:06] <jeremy31> escanor: when it is finished, reboot
[14:06] <escanor> jeremy31: sure
[14:13] <escanor> tomreyn: thanks a lot
[14:13] <escanor> Please who was the other person helping need to thank him :)
[14:14] <escanor> I just got disconnected so lost the chat
[14:15] <OerHeks> escanor, have fun!
[14:15] <escanor> Guys exactly what was the issue
[14:16] <escanor> I downloaded a package and it started running
[14:17] <escanor> apt-get install broadcom-sta-dkms
[14:17] <escanor> Can you please explain how was this link with my issue
[14:17] <OerHeks> broadcom-sta-dkmsbuilds the driver against your current kernel, and the dkms part does that again agains any newer kernel you recieve
[14:18] <OerHeks> that is all
[14:19] <escanor> OerHeks: Very clear and straightforward thanks for the explanation
[14:19] <escanor> One last query i need to change my username
[14:20] <escanor> I changed it in settings in ui but the terminal still shows the old username
[14:21] <OerHeks> logout & login again, that would solve it in a new session
[14:23] <cmg0x1e> i've got two ports that are open, reverse forwarded, but they're dead, i've killed all the users, no luck... any ideas?
[14:24] <cmg0x1e> port 25510 & 25511, were reverse forwarded over ssh
[14:25] <tomreyn> escanor: jeremy was the other person. the reason you need to build the drivers for your kernel is that there are no fully free (as in libre) drivers for your internal broadcom wireless chipset.
[14:26] <tomreyn> i.e. buy different hardware next time if you have a choice.
[14:27] <escanor> tomreyn: what i downloaded was not for free
[14:27] <tomreyn> escanor: i do not understand what you are trying to say with this statement.
[14:28] <tomreyn> cmg0x1e: do you mean ssh -R ?
[14:28] <escanor> tomreyn: Sorry for that i understood what you said
[14:28] <tomreyn> :) great.
[14:28] <escanor> Some driver are not included in the kernel package so we have to build them separately
[14:28] <tomreyn> cmg0x1e: if so, are you certain that's what you need in your situation?
[14:29] <tomreyn> escanor: correct. some drivers cannot be included in the kernel because of proprietary licensing.
[14:30] <escanor> ok
[14:30] <tomreyn> drivers for other wireless devices are included in the kernel and those devices will then work out of the box
[14:30] <tomreyn> (those may still depend on proprietary firmwares)
[14:30] <escanor> thanks thanks for the clarity
[14:31] <bug_sniper> how do you put "cpulimit -l 25" into /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop so that firefox doesn't use all your cpu?
[14:31] <escanor> I have to rename my current username and i am following below link is it correct
[14:31] <escanor> https://askubuntu.com/questions/558669/renaming-user-name
[14:32] <bug_sniper> when I put it in front of firefox in the Exec lines, firefox appears in the top bar but doesn't finish loading
[14:36] <OerHeks> bug_sniper, something like this? exec=/bin/bash -c 'cpulimit -l 25; firefox %u'   >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/981263/adding-a-custom-quicklist-entry-to-a-desktop-file
[14:36] <escanor> thanks guys :)
[14:37] <tomreyn> escanor: this should work. however, you will not be able to log out of your user unless you create another user and login as this beforehand, or unless you bring the system into single user mode and login as root.
[14:37] <tomreyn> escanor: also instead of ctrl-alt-f1 you may need to press ctrl-alt-f3
[14:38] <escanor> thanks for the info
[14:40] <tomreyn> escanor: i suggest you create another temporary but administrative user first, and (logout from your standard user and) login as this temporary user (which you need to remove in the end, once you logged in ad your renamed standard user again). this should make it easier.
[14:42] <nikolam> I would like tho knjwo how to set up second Radeon graphics, I have just put in Radeon R8750 in (previously also installed Nvidia 9800GT)
[14:42] <nikolam> I can't see second graphics under monitors (I use Xfce)
[14:43] <bug_sniper> That worked. Not sure how but it did.
[14:43] <bug_sniper> thank you
[14:44] <OerHeks> bug_sniper, have fun
[14:47] <tomreyn> nikolam: you must be mixing things up there, radeon is an amd (previously ati) series
[14:48] <tomreyn> nikolam: actually not, sorry, i just read this wrong
[14:48] <nikolam> Nvidia 9800gt works like befora, but no image on DVi->VGA adapter on Radeon R7850
[14:49] <nikolam> tomreyn, I suppose 7850 is GCN1 and shoudl be supported with open drivers form AMD?
[14:49] <tomreyn> nikolam: what'S the output of   cat /proc/cmdline
[14:49] <nikolam> $ cat /proc/cmdline
[14:49] <nikolam> BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-5.0.0-25-generic root=UUID=694e1dc2-cb40-43c2-bebe-1c77630efbc9 ro rootflags=subvol=@ quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[14:50] <nikolam> it's 19.04
[14:50] <tomreyn> nikolam: for the nvidia card, do you use the proprietary "nvidia" driver or the open source "nouveau" one?
[14:50] <tomreyn> lspci -nn   should tell
[14:50] <tomreyn> lspci -knn   should tell
[14:51] <nikolam> tomreyn, proprietary nvidia, I installed it on 18.04 and after update to 18.10 and 19.04 is basically stayed the same binaries for Nvidia
[14:51] <tomreyn> nikolam: are you using the proprietary drivers as packaged in ubuntu, or did you download them from nvidia.com?
[14:52] <nikolam> https://pastebin.com/TGUknkjA
[14:53] <nikolam> tomreyn, I installed it form nvidia site.. but was in the time of 18.04 but yes, from nvidia site
[14:53] <OerHeks> #77  Kernel driver in use: radeon  #84 Kernel driver in use: nvidia ,, i guess the dvi > vga part is bugging
[14:55] <BluesKaj> website drivers will break your system since they aren't supported by kernel updates/upgrades
[14:55] <nikolam> ok, I have put in HDMI-> VGA adapter and I got vertical srtipes in color
[14:57] <tomreyn> nikolam: i think we only support the ubuntu packaged nvidia drivers here. DVI -> VGA adapters often create problems.
[14:58] <OerHeks> maybe that setup needs a bold boot? seen that before with laptops..
[14:58] <OerHeks> c/bold/cold
[14:58] <tomreyn> nikolam: also note that the nvidia driver may require user mode setting (UMS) while radeon and amdgpu drivers prefer (maybe require by now) kernel mode setting (KMS)
[14:58] <xtacie> Good morning everyone. Quick q.. reading the topic above leads me to wonder if "lubuntu" is an official flavor?
[14:59] <OerHeks> xtacie, yes, for decades
[14:59] <OerHeks> !flavors
[14:59] <nikolam> ok, I will see to then start ubuntu nvidia drivers
[14:59] <nikolam> Maybe it would be fat chance then to use both cards at the same time
[15:00] <nikolam> xubuntu here
[15:00] <xtacie> Ok, ty. a bit new to it and had an old netbook laying around so i figured id learn something new
[15:00] <nikolam> and will do one more reboot.
[15:00] <CAKE> help sudo apt install cowsayE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:00] <tomreyn> "reboot" is a warm boot
[15:00] <OerHeks> lubuntu is lightweight, but xubuntu or mate are pretty workable too
[15:01] <CAKE> I get this error too dang often
[15:01] <nikolam> xtacie, learn first if nbook is 32-bit of 64-bit cpu, since with 32-bit you will very soon be out of luck for support
[15:01] <OerHeks> CAKE, after boot, ubuntu checks for unattended updates
[15:01] <xtacie> its 64bit
[15:01] <nikolam> tomreyn, sure, will do cold reboot
[15:01] <OerHeks> it is annoying, but it should work in a few minutes
[15:02] <dreugeworst> Hi all, I have a machine with Ubuntu Server 18.04 installed, and am trying to replace systemd-resolved. I've installed resolvconf, network-manager and dnsmasq. It seems to delegate to dnsmasq just fine, and it seems in turn to call to resolvconf, but resolvconf doesn't work. systemd-resolved found the network dns server fine, but resolvconf only works if I add, say, 8.8.8.8 to resolv.conf.d/head. anyone know what might be up?
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> dreugeworst: Might be better to ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:03] <CAKE> How do I turn off this update thing OerHeks
[15:05] <OerHeks> update settings > 'download and install automatic' to 'display immediatly' // automatic check.. i would keep that
[15:06] <xtacie> Could anyone suggest a decent gui for iptables management and maybe realtime connections or log? Im using ufw+gufw now and was looking at firestarter.. ive been looking on google and havent found too much
[15:06] <tomreyn> !server | dreugeworst
[15:07] <CAKE> im in kubuntu OerHeks
[15:07] <CAKE> ##kubuntu is probably dead
[15:09] <tomreyn> CAKE: how would you know, you're not even in ##kubuntu
[15:09] <dreugeworst> pragmaticenigma, tomreyn: thanks, will check there
[15:09] <CAKE> I said probably
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> that and the channel is #kubuntu no ##kubuntu ... makes a big difference
[15:10] <CAKE> oh
[15:12] <OerHeks> sure kde gives update options too..
[15:18] <CAKE> jesus all they said was to google systemctl
[15:19] <CAKE> I thought linux was supposed to be good
[15:19] <CAKE> taking half an hour (and it still is not fixed) is not good
[15:20] <krintax56> Guys, I'm installing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on HP DL380 G6 using ethernet. During setup when I go to Network connections and configure to use DHCP it says timed out. Now I configured DHCP IPv4 to be manual but I can only "Continue without network". Help!
[15:24] <ioria> krintax56, or a bug or you need a router restart ....
[15:24] <krintax56> No, I have installed CentOS and have no issues.
[15:24] <krintax56> https://imgur.com/a/RoWKQdl
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> krintax56: Make sure the computer is actually connected via ethernet and that the connection is working?
[15:25] <xtacie> yeah and not in the ilo port lol
[15:25] <xtacie> ive done that one before
[15:25] <krintax56> Yes, is it connected, using the Ethernet 1 port.
[15:25] <krintax56> I installed CentOS and it was working, but now I can't install Ubuntu..
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> krintax56: Not familiar with that setup screen... what install image media are you using?
[15:25] <ioria> krintax56, is that the server edition ?
[15:25] <krintax56> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
[15:25] <krintax56> Serve
[15:25] <krintax56> Server
[15:26] <krintax56> ubuntu-18.04.3-live-server-amd64
[15:26] <pragmaticenigma> krintax56: You may receive better support from #ubuntu-server ... this channel is a little more focused on desktop
[15:26] <xtacie> did u happen to plug the cable in after you got into the setup screen or did you boot with it already connected
[15:27] <ioria> krintax56, did you set the 'search domain'  ?
[15:27] <krintax56> No, I did not setup the search domain.
[15:27] <ioria> krintax56, you can try the not-live version
[15:28] <krintax56> xtacie I haven't removed the cable
[15:28] <krintax56> I boot with already cibbected
[15:29] <laffer> hey
[15:29] <krintax56> Opps, was chatting in wrong chat support
[15:29] <leftyfb> krintax56: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.3/release/ubuntu-18.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[15:29] <xtacie> i would finish the install and then attempt to configure the int
[15:30] <xtacie> after install u could try sudo dhclient eht0  or whatever ur int is
[15:30] <krintax56> leftyfb downloading it, will try to install it.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !u | xtacie
[15:32] <laffer> I got in the main menu of ubuntu budgie 19.04 a duplicate entry of "Other", at the bottom, as seen here https://pasteboard.co/IsFHcd9.png . It doesn't appear in the menu editor to edit, nor in /usr/share/applications/[appname].desktop. I've tried budgie-panel --reset --replace & but it didn't work.
[15:34] <laffer> oh. it has a shortcut inside of it that I created but can't find it anywhere
[15:39] <ioria> laffer,   have you checked  ~/.local/share/applications   ?
[15:39] <nikolam> I have uninstalled nvidia driver (seems there were ubuntu-provided nvidia driver) and now I have image on both nvidia 9800GT and Radeon R7850 , both DVI->VGA.
[15:39] <nikolam> nvidia now uses nouveau
[15:40] <nikolam> will see to make Radeon main one and if it can work with nvidia driver on second, but I would like to test Radeon with some burning 3D test
[15:41] <nikolam> Also if I pull DVI->VGA adapter during the work, seems like X server is freezing (or driver, freezing)
[15:42] <laffer> ioria, found it. it was there.
[15:42] <laffer> ioria,  thanks
[15:42] <ioria> ok
[16:16] <nikolam> I made Radeon 7850 primary card by moving it to first PCI-E slot and setting it in display settings (Xfce) as primary. Nvidia 9800GT is now secondary but using nouveau driver
[16:17] <nikolam> I wonder will Nvidia work if I install proprietary driver coming from Ubuntu
[16:17] <nikolam> Also I would like to torture-test AMD 7850 graphics , any suggestion?
[16:18] <xtacie> google GPUTest
[16:20] <xtacie> or furmark
[16:23] <nikolam> isn't furmark MS windows-only?
[16:24] <nikolam> thanks for GPUTest, xtacie
[16:24] <xtacie> i  thought furmark had cross plat. version
[16:24] <xtacie> np
[16:29] <s3nd1v0g1us> how can i resolve this: sudo: unable to resolve host: Name or service not known
[16:29] <leftyfb> s3nd1v0g1us: looks like you don't have an entry for your machine's hostname in /etc/hosts
[16:30] <nikolam> I see now GPUTest have 'furmark' option inside of it
[16:31] <s3nd1v0g1us> which needs to be altered? 127.0.0.1 localhost to 127.0.0.1 hostname?
[16:33] <leftyfb> s3nd1v0g1us: hostname
[16:33] <s3nd1v0g1us> so change localhost to whatever my hostname is then?
[16:35] <s3nd1v0g1us> i wonder how hosts became hinky.
[16:35] <leftyfb> s3nd1v0g1us: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/6YC8qfWtXh/
[16:37] <s3nd1v0g1us> fixed it.
[16:38] <s3nd1v0g1us> localhost had to stay the same, but i altered the other entry for 127.0.0.1 and that resolved. thx
[16:38] <s3nd1v0g1us> god i love linux
[16:40] <n_v83r> right
[16:47] <RandomGuyOnIrc> I was thinking of installing fluxbox on my ubuntu mate 18.04 laptop.  If I decide I don't like it, do I just do an apt-get remove --purge fluxbox, then reboot?
[16:47] <RandomGuyOnIrc> or maybe /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[16:49] <OerHeks> maybe reinstall
[16:53] <RandomGuyOnIrc> I guess I could uninstall fluxbox, then restore default gnome: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/06/reset-gnome-desktop-ubuntu-18-04/
[16:53] <OerHeks> adding a desktop is no problem, removing one is interesting
[16:55] <n_v83r> agreed, maybe fire up a vm with fluxbox first to see if you like it.
[17:03] <seven-eleven> hi
[17:03] <seven-eleven> i see there is still python3.5/site-packages in /usr/local/lib
[17:03] <seven-eleven> can I just remove python3.5? because now i have python3.6
[17:07] <kxsl> what do i look for when ubuntu is stopping at emergency shell? nothing in the journal looks like a problem. ubuntu usb boots fine
[17:18] <n_v83r> @kxsl see if this article helps https://askubuntu.com/questions/685946/how-to-exit-emergency-mode-and-boot-to-default-mode
[17:25] <Sven_vB> can I launch a GUI program with a different keymap than my X session default?
[17:28] <pmart> are new package versions published on {codename}-updates repository going to be eventually in {codename} repository so they get covered by unattended-upgrades?
[17:29] <pmart> on debian this happens during point releases
[17:35] <Sven_vB> looks like people had my problem for years but Linux just can't do it. :(
[17:36] <OerHeks> Sven_vB, never heard of it either
[17:37] <Sven_vB> some suggest autokey could do it but it seems ubuntu doesn't have that.
[17:39] <kxsl> n_v83r, I'm checking again, but I think everything mounted
[17:53] <kxsl> n_v83r, everything present mounted
[18:02] <leonardus> when Software Updater says "Ubuntu Base", what is it actually updating?
[18:02] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, the keymap is interpreted before it's ever passed to the program. What you could try is launching a background X session with your alternative keymap, then passing it through to a window in your main X session.
[18:03] <n_v83r> kxsl: have you checked that the disk isnt corupted despite it mounting?
[18:05] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, thanks for the idea! how would I pass it through?
[18:06] <Sven_vB> also, might it be easier to hook the process (like with LD_PRELOAD) and modify what keystroke it receives?
[18:06] <OerHeks> leonardus, it gives the option what packages, no?
[18:07] <OerHeks> really a strange question, as softwarecenter spawns the list
[18:08] <kxsl> n_v83r, with fsck or smart, or something else?
[18:09] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, a couple of ways; ssh -Y localhost is weird but should work
[18:09] <lordcirth> There's probably a way to do it without ssh but I don't know one off the top of my head
[18:09] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, thanks!
[18:10] <lordcirth> Hmm, I'm actually not sure if your keymap will take effect if you x-forward the window
[18:10] <lordcirth> VNC to localhost should have it take effect, but might be slower?
[18:10] <Sven_vB> I'll probably just make a modified version of the target program for now, as I fear the RAM usage of an extra X and the startup delay when using SSH.
[18:13] <lordcirth> Yeah, it wouldn't be the fastest.
[18:17] <n_v83r> kxsl: ah! it's called boot repair. you can boot off your usb thumb drive and install it, here is a help file help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:18] <Habbie> Sven_vB, lordcirth, Xnest then?
[18:18] <lordcirth> Habbie, never heard of it - thanks!
[18:19] <Sven_vB> the package description says "Use of the Xephyr X server instead of Xnest is recommended."
[18:19] <Sven_vB> thanks for the hint though!
[18:21] <MoxygeRen> I have this recently installed ubuntu box
[18:22] <MoxygeRen> I was on a website for a few time... i let it for minutes and then when i came back this Website is marked as Potential Security Issue
[18:24] <MoxygeRen> It says that the encryption certificate of the website does not exist anymore
[18:24] <OerHeks> MoxygeRen, interesting, and how are we going to fix that website?
[18:24] <MoxygeRen> I gave up and used Firefox instead of chromium
[18:24] <MoxygeRen> I have just read that the problem may be the misconfigured date/time on this computer
[18:26] <MoxygeRen> I stayed late last night since the two OS's i have installed there had different TIME on them
[18:26] <OerHeks> windows 10 and ubuntu?\
[18:26] <Sven_vB> MoxygeRen, does the time on that computer work like we'd usually expect? or is the clock failing? or is it purposely customized?
[18:26] <MoxygeRen> It is purposely customized
[18:27] <OerHeks> i know of wondows 10 and ubuntu time issues https://www.howtogeek.com/323390/how-to-fix-windows-and-linux-showing-different-times-when-dual-booting/
[18:27] <MoxygeRen> yeah
[18:27] <Sven_vB> MoxygeRen, customized in what way? is it at a fixed offset to GMT?
[18:27] <MoxygeRen> i set ubuntu to UTC time
[18:27] <MoxygeRen> so my Windows System had the right time
[18:28] <Sven_vB> oh ok so it's regular time system just about time zones
[18:28] <MoxygeRen> yeah
[18:28] <Sven_vB> check the "hwclock" program to see what your hardware clock says.
[18:28] <MoxygeRen> i checked it last night
[18:29] <MoxygeRen> hardware clock is ok, so Windows be ok
[18:29] <MoxygeRen> Ubuntu is the only TimeZone Misconfigured
[18:29] <Sven_vB> so now you want to adjust the software clock in ubuntu?
[18:30] <Sven_vB> OerHeks' link should apply then.
[18:30] <MoxygeRen> i just wanted to go back to docs.djangoproject.com and go on with django install
[18:31] <MoxygeRen> after i entered here (freenode) Firefox told me the problem was the TimeZone setting
[18:31] <OerHeks> ...
[18:31] <Sven_vB> yeah they have a new SSL cert whose validity starts only today
[18:32] <OerHeks> windows is wrong, ubuntu is right, change windows time
[18:32] <Sven_vB> so you either need to wait a few hours for your Ubuntu clock to catch up, or sync the clock.
[18:32] <MoxygeRen> ha ha
[18:32] <MoxygeRen> yeah
[18:32] <MoxygeRen> i think i'll set ubuntu clock right just while i finish django settings
[18:33] <MoxygeRen> Thank you, guys! (and gals?)
[18:33] <MoxygeRen> cya later!
[18:33] <Sven_vB> cya!
[18:33] <Sven_vB> what's the easiest way to turn one of my screens into a big text input box with given font name/size/color, background color and initial text? I thought of using a minimal text editor, but the ones I know rely on a config file in $HOME so I'd have to make a temporary dir, put their config and launch them with custom $HOME. also I don't need most auxiliary text editor functionality like file open/save dialogs. however adjustable font
[18:33] <Sven_vB> size for the entire text would be nice. it's meant for quickly showing a name or phone number across the room.
[18:34] <Sven_vB> but also still be editable, else I'd use just xmessage
[18:35] <sarnold> heh, xmessage, in case you want that late 80s aesthetic :)
[18:36] <Sven_vB> gxmessage wastes too much pixels
[18:36] <Sven_vB> can I change xterm's font size with hotkeys maybe? then I'd just put an infinite readline loop in it
[18:37] <sarnold> xterm I think is control right click or similar to bring up a menu..
[18:37] <sarnold> urxvt you can do that with hotkeys
[18:37] <Sven_vB> thanks! I'll have a look.
[18:38] <Sven_vB> "No manual entry for urxvt" wat
[18:38] <kxsl> what's a good forum for getting help with ubuntu? askubuntu? ubuntu's forums or bugtracker
[18:38] <Sven_vB> oh, there's 3 different ones. I misread apt.
[18:38] <Sven_vB> kxsl, all of them.
[18:39] <Sven_vB> kxsl, the more audiences you get, the better your chance of a good reply.
[18:39] <sarnold> Sven_vB: here's a pal's ~/.Xdefaults that include urxvt settings for specific fonts as well as increasing and decreasing font size https://github.com/df7cb/dotfiles/blob/master/.Xdefaults#L51
[18:39] <Sven_vB> sarnold, thanks!
[18:41] <kmc> greetings
[18:41] <kmc> I'm trying to get HDMI audio output working
[18:41] <kmc> aplay -l shows all my devices, the sound control panel shows nothing, and pavucontrol shows only analog
[18:48] <kmc> does anyone know what's going on?
[18:49] <sarnold> not me :) one audio output and it Just Works..
[18:51] <JimBuntu> kmc, so in the Sound panel, in the Output tab, it's not listing anything?
[18:51] <kmc> correct
[18:52] <kmc> I don't understand why pulseaudio is installed by default, it seems to break things that worked fine in alsa, while providing no benefit to the average user
[18:52] <kmc> it showed nothing, then i ran pulseaudio -k, then it showed my analog devices (but not hdmi)
[18:52] <JimBuntu> kmc, sorry to say that I'm not sure why that would be happening or exactly how to fix it at the moment, someone should be along with a possible solution though.
[18:53] <JimBuntu> Does what you are connecting to via HDMI have speakers for sure?
[18:53] <kmc> now pulseaudio is not running and pulseaudio --start doesn't work
[18:53] <kmc> this is a completely fresh install except i did a rm -r .config/pulse as an earlier attempt to fix this
[18:54] <kmc> yes, audio works fine in windows
[19:00] <hsn> ubuntu is using debian mirrors for source code distribution?
[19:00] <sarnold> hsn: ubuntu's archive mirrors distribute source code too
[19:02] <sarnold> hsn: eg, the bash package sources are in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bash/ -- the .dsc files describes the .tar.xz for upstream releases, the debian.tar.xz files provide the debian/ directory etc
[19:04] <kmc> it also seems that pulse doesn't start by defaul
[19:04] <kmc> i have to run pavucontrol to get it
[19:06] <hsn> I see. How long they stay in the pool?
[19:07] <hsn> I am updating freebsd bzr package, so i will get 2.7.0+bzr6622.orig
[19:07] <sarnold> hsn: they stay in the main archive mirrors for several months after the end of support for a given release -- so eg the bash sources for 12.04 LTS are still there, but 13.10 is long out of support, so its packages have been moved to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[19:16] <hsn> Where can i find bzr_2.7.0+bzr6622-15.debian.tar.xz from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/2.7.0+bzr6622-15  ? its not in archive
[19:19] <Grefoley> Hi all, i currently have a question that i ask myself. I want to rebuid my dualboot laptop. By experience for you is it better to share the ssd between ubuntu and windows or just let unbuntu on the hdd will be enought to get good performance.
[19:20] <OerHeks> hsn, apt-get source  bzr_2.7.0+bzr6622-15 perhaps?
[19:21] <OerHeks> hsn it is available in Disco and next Eaon
[19:21] <Bashing-om> hsn: ^^ see too: https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/bzr .
[19:21] <nacc> OerHeks: bzr is in both, it's in universe
[19:21] <nacc> oh misread! sorry :(
[19:22] <kmc> I think I'll go back to Windows
[19:22] <kmc> seems like there was a short window of time where sound in linux worked out of the box, and then pulseaudio came on the scene and now it's usually broken again
[19:22] <OerHeks> Grefoley, ssd makes any OS faster in responce due to 0 sec seektime, you could put ubuntu on the ssd and your /home/ on the hdd
[19:22] <kmc> thanks anyway for trying to help
[19:22] <kmc> :)
[19:23] <hsn> I see this - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic/+source/bzr but its version -12 is not in pool. Its EOL?
[19:24] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/2.7.0+bzr6622-15
[19:24] <Grefoley> thank's  OerHeks , that was what i was thinking but i search some eperience return to encure this. But i seems right so here i go make this
[19:24] <OerHeks> published in disco and EAON
[19:24] <OerHeks> not bionic
[19:25] <hsn> eon and disco are unreleased versions?
[19:27] <leftyfb> hsn: from Ubuntu 18.04 run :apt-get source bzr
[19:27] <leftyfb> apt-get source bzr
[19:28] <hsn> that universe distribution has different mirrors? in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bzr/ is -10 latest, so where they are
[19:29] <leftyfb> hsn: it's not part of the universe repo, it's part of main
[19:30] <leftyfb> hsn: -15 is part of Ubuntu 19.04
[19:30] <hsn> 6622-15 is listed with compenent universe eoan,disco at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/2.7.0+bzr6622-15 My question is where they are uploaded to.
[19:31] <leftyfb> hsn: if you want that package (why?) install Ubuntu 19.04. Or run it in a container
[19:31] <hsn> I need that package because stock bzr 2.7.0 crashing.
[19:32] <leftyfb> hsn: maybe work on resolving that as opposed to installing an unsupported version of the package on your system?
[19:33] <hsn> no. I updated bzr-fastimport with debian patches and it started to work. Now i need to do the same for bzr.
[19:33] <leftyfb> hsn: ok, you are on your own now. We can only support applications installed from packages from the official repos, without patches
[19:35] <JimBuntu> hsn, ##linux perhaps.
[19:35] <OerHeks> upgrade to disco
[19:36] <leftyfb> or fix the actual problem
[19:36] <leftyfb> or at least troubleshoot it
[19:36] <hsn> problem is that we are not able to find released packages
[19:36] <leftyfb> hsn: -15 of bzr is from Ubuntu 19.04 like you've already been told. I told you above how you can download the source for it
[19:37] <OerHeks> leftyfb, correct, i find no bugreports crashing bazaar for 18.04 LTS
[19:37] <leftyfb> OerHeks: and since it's one of the most popular tools used by Canonical employees, I can guarantee you it's not a problem with the stock package
[19:37] <hsn> bzr 2.7.0 stock is from 2016 or something
[19:38] <hsn> ubuntu 18.04 does not have  stock bzr, it has patched bzr.
[19:39] <OerHeks> ehm patched bzr sounds oke, like in debian
[19:39] <leftyfb> hsn: good luck
[19:39] <hsn> there are 2 series of patches - one batch comes with debian -15 addon and second is already included in patched orig archive.
[19:41] <seven-eleven> how do i fix this dependency hell? http://dpaste.com/148HC2J
[19:41] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: which version of ubuntu?
[19:42] <seven-eleven> leftyfb, 18.04
[19:42] <seven-eleven> leftyfb, strangely npm seems to be already installed, maybe i installed it a different way :S
[19:42] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: please pastebin the output of :   apt-cache policy npm ; apt-cache policy qi
[19:42] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: qi is not a package available from the official repos
[19:43] <seven-eleven> leftyfb, qi is an alias for `apt install`
[19:43] <seven-eleven> leftyfb, http://dpaste.com/0XWN1P3
[19:44] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: apt-cache policy node-abbrev
[19:44] <seven-eleven> http://dpaste.com/3516E7B
[19:45] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: something doesn't add up
[19:45] <seven-eleven> leftyfb, i dont remember how i installed npm
[19:46] <seven-eleven> but it is installed to /usr/bin/npm
[19:46] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: it's not install from packages
[19:46] <seven-eleven> yes
[19:46] <hsn> can you run apt-get source  bzr and tell me URL?
[19:46] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: remove npm using whatever method you used to install it
[19:47] <seven-eleven> leftyfb, i worry i installed via `curl -L https://www.npmjs.com/install.sh | sh`
[19:47] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: follow the documentation to remove that
[19:47] <seven-eleven> ok
[19:49] <seven-eleven> leftyfb, no i remember why I did that, because ubuntus npm is version 3.X and I wanted a newer npm version
[19:49] <seven-eleven> now*
[19:49] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: sorry, that method of installing the package is unsupported here.
[19:50] <seven-eleven> i think it's also dangerous
[19:50] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: is there a reason you need a newer version?
[19:50] <seven-eleven> piping some install script to sh
[19:50] <seven-eleven> leftyfb, i dont remember, worst case something doesnt work hmm
[19:51] <seven-eleven> i think an old version of npm doesnt matter, but it comes bundled with node.js and the node.js version matters
[19:51] <leftyfb> hsn: I just temporarily added the disco repo to my sources.list and downloaded the source for the exact version you're looking for. Good luck
[19:51] <OerHeks> hsn, the packages are on that url..
[19:53] <OerHeks> but make sure you cleaned your system of the old bzr, and issues
[19:54] <hsn> I found them by manually parsing Sources.xz
[19:55] <hsn> Point it, guys, universe has different pool from main.
[19:55] <OerHeks> just read: `pull-lp-source` may be a better alternative to `apt-get source` since it's not dependent on apt configuration
[19:55] <nacc> hsn: who are you talking to? yes, bzr is in universe only in newer releases (19.04 and on)
[19:56] <nacc> hsn: but instlling a version from another release on 18.04 is not supported; and if you are intent (and know how) to build from source already, you probably dont' need help here :)
[19:56] <OerHeks> but we should not encourage versions swapping
[19:56] <leftyfb> I mistakenly suggested bzr was in main and not universe. I was wrong
[19:56] <hsn> In old ubuntu, bzr was in main, now moved to universe.-> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bzr/ here we go
[19:58] <mb711d> join #openstack-qa
[19:59] <OerHeks> no.
[20:00] <mb711d> Sorry. That was sent by mistake. Apologies
[20:01] <OerHeks> np mb711d :-D
[20:07] <hsn> OerHeks: dont worry, i do not do version swapping. I do not have ubuntu.
[20:26] <shadoxx> buffer jan
[20:42] <TheMister> Quick question: I've got a VM with multiple interfaces, all using DHCP. I would like to continue using DHCP, but I would like the system to assign the default route to a particular interface. For example I have eth0, eth1, and eth2. I'd like the default route to go through eth1.
[20:45] <tomreyn> you nicely discussed a situation, but have not yet asked the question you announced. also discuss anything you already tried, and how it did not seem to work out (and how you could tell).
[20:45] <sarnold> hehe
[20:46] <TheMister> How do I assign the default route to the gateway retrieved from DHCP for a particular interface?
[20:47] <TheMister> I have tried looking through the options in the man pages for interfaces, but they typically discuss assigning a static ip and a gateway, but I wish to retain DHCP
[20:48] <TheMister> It did not seem to work out because ip route still lists a different interface as the default route, but this is expected as I didn't touch anything in the /etc/network/interfaces file yet
[20:49] <OerHeks> for 18.04, you would use netplan
[20:49] <OerHeks> !netplan
[20:49] <tomreyn> however https://askubuntu.com/questions/1042582/how-to-set-default-route-with-netplan-ubuntu-18-04-server-2-nic
[20:50] <TheMister> Thank you, I will look at the netplan document
[20:51] <tomreyn> https://netplan.io/examples#connecting-multiple-interfaces-with-dhcp
[20:51] <TheMister> I've been only using /etc/network/interfaces as, up until now, it's been working as I had hoped, but I think it's just pure luck as the default gateway has been getting assigned to the numerically lowest ens device
[20:52] <TheMister> The machine had ens192, ens224, and 256
[20:52] <TheMister> but the latest addition is ens161 and that one got the default route
[20:52] <OerHeks> oh, and eth1 eth2 is the old interface naming, get used to the new stuff
[20:53] <TheMister> but this is quite speculative and just my guess as to why
[20:53] <TheMister> :)
[20:56] <akem__> Hey, i have some strange errors when i'm inserting an microSD card there (that's just after removing/reinstering it): https://pastebin.com/7ytn1cGx
[20:58] <akem__> It looks like a bug with the kernel or some memory issue :/ any idea?
[21:01] <OerHeks> akem__, so what filesystem is on it?
[21:01] <OerHeks> run a filesck
[21:03] <akemlenovo> OerHeks, It's fat32 32GB card.
[21:03] <akemlenovo> a Kingston one.
[21:05] <akem__> OerHeks, I put the card in a win7 machine which worked, then back to the linux machine, it works now - i didn't check the filesystem or whatever.
[21:06] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting#dosfstools_-_FAT12.2C_FAT16_and_FAT32_.28vfat.29_filesystem
[21:06] <OerHeks> likely corrupt filestystem/ dirty unmount
[21:07] <OerHeks> that it can be seen on win7 is good, but does not say it is oke
[21:08] <akem__> OerHeks, Ok, but that dmesg errors are weird, i thought it was a more serious issue at first.
[21:08] <akem__> Thanks OerHeks.
[21:09] <OerHeks> have fun!
[22:07] <AlexQ> Hello. Is there any software available on Ubuntu that I could run on my Ubuntu VPS so that I could access a HTTP server running on my personal laptop that has no external IP address? Some kind of a double-sided-reverse-proxy solution?
[22:09] <sarnold> AlexQ: you could setup openvpn or similar tools to connect your laptop to the vps.. and then run a squid or haproxy or varnish on that
[22:10] <sarnold> AlexQ: iirc cloudflare has turned the wireguard vpn tool into a product doing this kind of thing.. so definitely what you want to do can be done :) I'm just not sure that naything exists ready to do that out of the box
[22:10] <bprompt> AlexQ:    am I wrong or you can simply type -> http://localhost  <--- on any browser to access your webserver content?
[22:12] <sarnold> AlexQ: actually, now that I think about it, maybe an ssh port forwarding is an easier first try. look at that.
[22:21] <TJ-> AlexQ: " socat TCP4-LISTEN:1080 TCP4:localhost:www"  then make your remote client connect to your PC's IP address on port 1080
[22:22] <TJ-> AlexQ: through a VPN of course :)
[22:59] <AlexQ> Thanks guys. I have SSH access to the VPS obviously; is it necessary to set up a VPN to the VPS, or maybe SSH fort forwarding would suffice for the reverse proxy on the VPN to be able to connect to the HTTP server on my machine?
[23:00] <AlexQ> SSH port-forwarding*
[23:53] <silesm> join #ubuntu-irc
[23:53] <silesm> oops ._.
[23:54] <silesm> not really my wheelhouse anyway
[23:55] <silesm> i have a question about the linux-aws kernels, specifically i am trying to get V4L2 to work for v4l2loopback. the kernels do not appear to be compiled with support for videodev. looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-aws/+bug/1836706, it seems like the linux-modules-extra-aws package should (?) maybe add some of the relevant modules, i.e.
[23:55] <silesm> videodev
[23:56] <silesm> i'm wondering what my options are: as is, I could use the generic kernels, except that I'm unable to get them to boot on metal instances in AWS
[23:57] <sarnold> silesm: hmm, what would you do with those modules? is there actually a display available somewhere>
[23:58] <silesm> we're using them for some automated testing
[23:58] <silesm> i'm not actually clear on the details of what they're used for, but i could find out more
[23:58] <silesm> we're using v4l2loopback and snd-aloop to expose to docker to create fake devices essentially
[23:59] <silesm> but as for the tests (which run in docker), i'm not sure what precisely they do
[23:59] <OerHeks> but it was fixed in linux-aws (4.4.0-1090.101) xenial; ?
[23:59] <silesm> i'm trying to set up infrastructure such that we can run KVM in AWS, which means metal instances, and ideally also expose these loopback devices