[01:04] <k3dar7> Unit193: thx! for xfce4-panel 4.14 to 18.04 ;-)
[01:04] <Unit193> Sure, let me know if there's anything that becomes uninstallable.
[01:07] <k3dar7> updating xfce4-panel remove xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-notes-plugin as both packages is from bionic/universe repo and depends on xfce4-panel <4.13
[01:08] <k3dar7> can you please add this packags to ppa if is actual source compatible with 4.14?
[01:09] <k3dar7> at least notes plugin :-)
[01:09] <Unit193> You use both?
[01:09] <Unit193> Ah.
[01:09] <k3dar7> i use only notes :-)
[01:11] <k3dar7> btw: i have installed xfce4-goodies and all others depends plugins keep installed, only this two (and ofcourse metapackage xfce4-goodies) is uninstalled
[01:13] <Unit193> k3dar7: Uploaded, wait for it to build then you'll be good to go.
[01:19] <k3dar7> thanx :) but is strange without xfce4-notes-plugin is notes still on panel i try reboot for sure
[01:20] <Unit193> There's nothing that stops functioning, it's just a conflict.
[01:24] <k3dar7> i have enabled Notes in xfce4-session-settings/Autostart, then i think not need plugin, in packages xfce4-notes i see png's in /usr/share/xfce4-notes-plugin (not .so) then main binary work also as "self plugin"?
[01:25] <Unit193> You can now update.
[01:33] <k3dar7> xfce4-notes and xfce4-notes-plugin succesfully installed and with disabled notes in autorun and readded plugin on panel work fine :-) thans :)
[01:37] <k3dar7> Unit193: although i not use mailwatch plugin, can you please try add to ppa too? because now as removed xfce4-goodies is all on it depens keeped packages set as auto installed and not necessary and "apt autoremove" want remove it and if user want keep it then must set all this packages as manual installed... 
[01:40] <k3dar7> Unit193: ah, you already add also mailwatch with notes before, thx :-))
[01:42] <k3dar7> now xfce4-goodies can be installed and all is ok :)
[01:43] <k3dar7> Unit193: then last packages not for 18.04 is i think only xfce4-terminal, is really problematic add vte patch to ppa build if is  regular/official ubuntu patch for xfce4-terminal stock package?
[01:51] <k3dar7> Unit193: i now check all in staging package and compare version for 18.04 and 19.04 and all is same, but i see xfwm4 is in 4.13 version? for both 18.04 and 19.04. is only missed or problem with compile in ppa??
[03:12] <Unit193> Pardon..?
[03:19] <k3dar7> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
[03:19] <k3dar7> xfwm4	4.13.4-0ubuntu1~19.04	Unit 193 (2019-07-30) 
[03:19] <k3dar7> xfwm4	4.13.4-0ubuntu1~18.04	Unit 193 (2019-07-30)
[03:21] <Unit193> Ah, so you want xfwm4.  OK.
[03:21] <Unit193> Yeah that was missed because I have to exclude it from #elsewhere.
[03:23] <k3dar7> :-)
[03:24] <k3dar7> and sorry i repeat, but xfce4-terminal 4.14 for 18.04? :-)
[03:34] <Unit193> Not as of now, nope.
[03:35] <Unit193> I'm not too interested in patching that all up again. :P
[04:15] <k3dar7> is not posible only add existing patch file to package build?
[04:18] <k3dar7> thx for xfwm4 in ppa :-) i try in 30m and report
[06:15] <k3dar7> Unit193: xfwm4 4.14 on 18.04 work (without Compositor)
[07:22] <k3dar7> brainwash: finaly "solved" 1835622, updating Mesa from Padoka Unstable PPA: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1835622/comments/9
[08:58] <brainwash> k3dar7: nice
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