[01:02] <craigbass76> Is there an 18.04? I see 16.04 and 19.04 on the download page, but not 18.
[01:05] <wxl> wrong site
[01:05] <wxl> you're on lubuntu.net right?
[01:07] <Mead> 18.04 might be under the LTS label
[01:10] <craigbass76> Ahhh
[01:11] <craigbass76> I'm on a wicked old Compaq, and I'm donating it to a non-profit motorcycle education. Even XFCE is going to be a bit heavy I think.
[01:11] <wxl> but lubuntu.net is still the wrong site
[01:11] <craigbass76> Had a newer Acer, but when i tried to boot, I didn't even get to where I could see the BIOS.
[01:12] <craigbass76> wxl, What is the .net site?
[01:12] <wxl> not the lubuntu website
[01:12] <wxl> they often have incorrect and misleading information there
[01:13] <craigbass76> Someone that just snagged it before official folks could? That kind of blows...
[01:13] <wxl> it's a long sad story
[01:14] <craigbass76> Are you officially involved?
[01:14] <wxl> yep
[01:14]  * lynorian is too
[01:15] <craigbass76> That's a loaded question... I'm a tech writer at Linux Academy. I was thinking of helping out with docs somewhere. XFCE, LXDE, something. I've been a Linux freeloader since Fedora Core 1...
[01:15] <lynorian> craigbass76: I write most docs for lxqt if you want to see they are at our site here https://manual.lubuntu.me/
[01:15] <craigbass76> Feeling like I should have been giving back for a long time, but just getting round to it.
[01:16] <craigbass76> lynorian, You ever need a hand?
[01:17] <wxl> we could always use help with support, bug triage, and testing, too
[01:17] <lynorian> sometimes but I am prety busy  there are probably lots of things I have done wrong since hard to find own errors
[01:17] <wxl> ^ tl;dr proofreading is nice
[01:17] <craigbass76> I see stuff I wrote a few months back and go "What?"
[01:18] <wxl> btw the development channel is #lubuntu-devel
[01:19] <craigbass76> I'll jot your name down and come back after I've got a couple projects off my plate (this laptop, for instance)
[01:19] <Mead> craigbass76:  you can find some kind of newsgroup/email/message board chain post about the subject of the website, there is/was ALOT of drama at one point,
[01:20] <wxl> tsimonq2 and kc2bez are good people to chat with too
[01:21] <kc2bez> Feel free to reach out anytime craigbass76
[01:29] <craigbass76> Ok, I'm out for now folks -- copied this part of the chat to a text file for later. Toodles
[01:29] <wxl> be well
[01:49] <tsimonq2> wxl, kc2bez: (Made a connection via some folks I know at Linux Academy)
[01:50] <kc2bez> :)
[03:37] <craigbass76> Hey! I made it! Wrote Lubuntu over a siduction install.
[03:38] <craigbass76> How do I stop (windows called it grouping windows I think) two LibreOffice windows just having one button on the "taskbar" in LXDE?
[03:45] <wxl> right click and change the properties
[03:45] <wxl> (of the taskbar)
[03:47] <craigbass76> Panel settings?
[03:48] <craigbass76> I've never seen this by default, except on windows 7 and newer... Looking for "ungroup" or some such, and I'm not seeing it.
[03:50] <craigbass76> Aha! Found it.
[14:17] <yennvier> hola
 @yennvier [<yennvier> hola], Hi, this Channel is in english, you have a spanish Channel in #lubuntu-es
 Fwd from heogj: there is this problem in latest lubuntu version … i cant change default brightness.. i mean when i set brightness to a particular level it changes to the default one if i perform a reboot or boot it up when its power off
 Fwd from heogj: everytime i start/boot lubuntu.. first i have to search for brightness in start/app menu and then change it.. there is no widget in panel/toolbar associated with controlling brightness.. last time when i use linux mint, it had brightness slider with that battery menu widget
 Fwd from heogj: any solution?
 @heogj [there is this problem in latest lubuntu version … i cant change default brightnes …], @teward001 do u have any idea about this?
 as i am coming from linux mint Xfce 19.2.. lubuntu is much snappier in general tasks such as opening file manager etc.. but in some cases linux mint is faster for e.g. in it boots a little faster than lubuntu
 @heogj [@teward001 do u have any idea about this?], sorry, I don't, or I'd have answered earlier.
 i dont understand why no linux OS show the loading sign with the mouse pointer like windows OS when some app is being opened in the background? this feature is must for beginners like me
 @teward001 [sorry, I don't, or I'd have answered earlier.], ok np
 @heogj [i dont understand why no linux OS show the loading sign with the mouse pointer l …], sometimes linux mint shows that loading sign but lubuntu doesnt. ever. can this be fixed? @teward001
[19:47] <Thedarkb-X40> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "artful" 17.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz (600MHz) • Memory: Physical: 1.2 GiB Total (740.4 MiB Free) Swap: 945.3 MiB Total (695.3 MiB Free) • Storage: 25.9 GB / 31.8 GB (5.9 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device @ Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Contr
[19:47] <Thedarkb-X40> oller • Uptime: 5d 20h 54m 8s
[19:47] <Thedarkb-X40> Is 17.10 deprecated?
[19:48] <wxl> long time ago
[19:48] <Thedarkb-X40> I can't use apt anymore so I assume so.
[19:48] <Thedarkb-X40> Ah.
[19:48] <Thedarkb-X40> Yeah, I'll update it.
[19:48] <Thedarkb-X40> This is a seldom used machine because it's older than sin.
[19:48] <wxl> i'd suggest 19.04, personally
[19:48] <wxl> different paradigm (lxqt instead of lxde) but lxde will be dropped once 18.04 dies in 2021
[19:51] <Thedarkb-X40> I've tried lxqt on this machine and have come to the conclusion that it's a bloated insult to LXDE's legacy.
[19:51] <Thedarkb-X40> So I'm going for 18.04.
[19:52] <Thedarkb-X40> It left me with 4k of RAM free.
[19:52] <Thedarkb-X40> 4k
[19:52] <Thedarkb-X40> That's a joke.
[19:53] <wxl> i think you were doing it wrong
[19:53] <Thedarkb-X40> Well.
[19:53] <Thedarkb-X40> At the time it only had 256mb
[19:56] <Thedarkb-X40> I've upped it since with a stick I ripped from a dead Dell.
[19:58] <Thedarkb-X40> If LXDE is going to be deprecated, I'll just use Openbox.
[19:58] <wxl> the other thing to consider is that with gtk4 on the horizon, using gtk2 software isn't a great idea
[19:58] <wxl> lxde developers have done next to nothing for a long, long time
[19:58] <Thedarkb-X40> Does it have any security issues?
[19:58] <wxl> who knows
[19:59] <Thedarkb-X40> I just built a gtk2 application.
[19:59] <lynorian> a new one?
[22:53] <Thedarkb-X40> lynorian, Yeah, a new one.