 yep just tried it out
 you only need the esc key most of the rest of the commands are on the osk already
 [Edit] you only need the esc key most of the commands are on the osk already
 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mir-1-4-0-release/12198
 oh boi
 @Fuseteam [oh boi], Boi🐮
 moo
 [Edit] sometimes i miss my discord emoji
 i assume content hub copies of files are stored in .cache?
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 To all the newcomers, welcome! Please take a look to https://ubports.com/meet-the-community to get you up to speed. … There are language focus groups available too 👌
 @popescu_sorin [https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mir-1-4-0-release/12198], does the mirclient API removal and the transition to Wayland in Mir 1.4 represent a potential stumbling point in UT development?  My presumption is that we will be stuck on Mir 1.3 or lower for a while - is there any downsides to this?
 well in my understanding, it's not removed yet, just not enabled/available by default but obviously something has to be done in the near future
 @Javacookies [well in my understanding, it's not removed yet, just not enabled/available by de …], Correct. Unity8 and unity-system-compositor already pass configure to Mir, this is just one more option. … But the clock is ticking.
 Btw, does anybody's Bluetooth behave wonky while in call?
 @Fuseteam [you only need the esc key most of the commands are on the osk already], I've got a nice, custom Vim keyboard layout that means everything you need is available in onr place.
 @Fuseteam [you only need the esc key most of the commands are on the osk already], [Edit] I've got a nice, custom Vim keyboard layout that means everything you need is available in one place.
 @tylnesh [Btw, does anybody's Bluetooth behave wonky while in call?], Like dropping the connection when the phone riings, not being able to  speak through the bluetooth headset's mic, etc? It used to work fine on my MX4, but doesn't in OnePlus One. Is it a widespread issue, or is my headset just wonky?
 BT is still a PIA it depends on a lot of variants
 So it could be the headset or who knows
 Try with another model
[07:53] <ubptgbot> <M V> I've the same problemwith bluetooth on Aquaris E5 Ubuntu edition.
 bluetooth stopped worked half a year ago on my phone:  … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/994
 [Edit] bluetooth stopped working half a year ago on my phone:  … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/994
 @tylnesh [Like dropping the connection when the phone riings, not being able to  speak thr …], same for Pro 5. Never worked even on Canonical image. One of the nastiest bugs, I believe. Hope there can be a fix one day ;-) cos it's rather limiting and would be helpful while driving.
 I'll try with my car radio.. But as I'm driving a lot lately, it's pretty much a deal breaker in terms of daily driver
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 @imraniqbal [I've got a nice, custom Vim keyboard layout that means everything you need is av …], oooh i gotta figure out how to make those
 @malditobastardo [BT is still a PIA it depends on a lot of variants], don't you mean PITA?
 Hi, been afk for the past couple of days and I've just updated to the latest RC but no radical change, is OTA10 still on hold? Thanks.
 @Fuseteam [don't you mean PITA?], Yeah haga
 @Fuseteam [don't you mean PITA?], [Edit] Yeah haha
 @UniversalSuperBox [No, there will be a re-release. So it'll be next RC. Or however many it takes to …], Just seen this. I'll be patient.
 @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [Hi, been afk for the past couple of days and I've just updated to the latest RC …], If you're on `rc`, you've got (the current) OTA-10; it will be receiving another fix soon.
 @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [Hi, been afk for the past couple of days and I've just updated to the latest RC …], What were the radical changes you were expecting?
 @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [Hi, been afk for the past couple of days and I've just updated to the latest RC …], https://github.com/orgs/ubports/projects/11#column-5166215 -- that gives a summary of what's been included in OTA-10.
 @imraniqbal [What were the radical changes you were expecting?], I thought there was something big in term of the draw vs scopes, perhaps I've misunderstood
 @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [I thought there was something big in term of the draw vs scopes, perhaps I've mi …], That's in the pipeline but it hadn't even reached `devel` yet. You'd have to go `edge` to experience that at the current time.
 (`edge` isn't recommended for daily driver use).
 actually that should reach devel soon if it hasn't already
 @Fuseteam [actually that should reach devel soon if it hasn't already], Not yet, I'm on latest `devel`.
 hmm then did i read wrong in the qa group?
 @Fuseteam [hmm then did i read wrong in the qa group?], Have you got a link to the post?
 Fwd from malditobastardo: Yes! Awesome. I been in devel since may as my daily driver
 around there :p
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 @Fuseteam [hmm then did i read wrong in the qa group?], yes
 grr forwards not linking to original
 @Fuseteam [hmm then did i read wrong in the qa group?], it will, soon after OTA-10 is released
 ota-11, coming in 8 months
 you think that's how long it will take for the new Unity8 and mir become stable and usuable?
 it's fairly stable and "usable" now, but it's still got a lot of missing things, and odd bugs (like the libertine thing for example)
 @Javacookies [you think that's how long it will take for the new Unity8 and mir become stable …], Maybe we need an OTA-10.5 for your lovely OSK advanced text functions!
 our process does't work terribly great for such "hotfix" scenarios
 Never mind, it's available via. the `ubports-qa` command, right?
 I think it's close to a releasable state, just a few important bug fixes and it's good to go....I'm being selfish but libertine is a low priority thing 😅
 @imraniqbal [Maybe we need an OTA-10.5 for your lovely OSK advanced text functions!], yeah maybe if it really takes a lot of time to release OTA 11 but I guess once edge is merged to devel then we'll have no choice to wait for it, there's no turning back? 😁
 @Javacookies [I think it's close to a releasable state, just a few important bug fixes and it' …], regressions are regressions though
 @Javacookies How about getting more testing for it in the QA group?
 would be nice to add a framework bump and get qtcharts in the image though
 @dohbee [regressions are regressions though], we had the same when we transitioned to xenial, we had to do it or we won't move but to be fair, I won't mind if it'll take long. We should be very careful with these big changes 😄
 @Javacookies [we had the same when we transitioned to xenial, we had to do it or we won't move …], that's a bit different
 @dohbee [would be nice to add a framework bump and get qtcharts in the image though], I'm with this!
 @dohbee [yes], hmm i see
 and actually libertine works on more devices now than it did in 15.04
 @imraniqbal [@Javacookies How about getting more testing for it in the QA group?], yeah sure! so that we can squash bugs and perhaps improve it more
 @Javacookies [yeah sure! so that we can squash bugs and perhaps improve it more], I reckon it's in a decent state now.  Where I used to find inconsistencies previously, it's far more polished now.  I've not stumbled across any bugs in it for a long while.
 i'm starting to see cursor mover mode as a 'interaction mode :3
 This is much more than a "cursor mover" — that's already available, anyway.
 what's the command to install it again?
 I'm not sure, I've built it manually.  @Javacookies will probably know.
 i so need to learn to build it :3
 [Edit] i so need to learn to manually build it :3
 @Fuseteam [i so need to learn to manually build it :3], Nah, I'm sure it's available via. `ubports-qa install ...`.
 yup that one ^
 i know just that i have a few keyboard ideas as kugi knows lol
 @Javacookies [yup that one ^], What's the branch?  `xenial_-_textfunctions`?
 not sure how jenkins builds work though....I tried the multi-monitor PRs but some of them says that there no builds...I was excited 😁
 @Javacookies [yup that one ^], fill in the ellipsis xD
 I think I have — the branch name above.
 @imraniqbal [What's the branch?  xenial_-_textfunctions?], can't exactly remember 😂
 boo '3'
 @Fuseteam [fill in the ellipsis xD], I think you `ubports-qa install REPONAME PR#`
 @Fuseteam [fill in the ellipsis xD], [Edit] I think you can do `ubports-qa install REPONAME PR#`
 @Fuseteam [i know just that i have a few keyboard ideas as kugi knows lol], what, adding a compose key? :P
 that's one part yep xD
 composekey+flick is OP xD
 @Fuseteam [fill in the ellipsis xD], Try this at your end: `sudo ubports-qa install xenial_-_textfunctions`
 I didn't even know about it before and I don't really use it so I might not be the right person to implement it 😁
 what compose key or flick?
 compose key on the phone doesn't make sense
 @imraniqbal [Try this at your end: sudo ubports-qa install xenial_-_textfunctions], I know that works but does it know which repo that branch is?
 @Fuseteam [what compose key or flick?], compose key but maybe applies to flick too 😁
 @dohbee [compose key on the phone doesn't make sense], we'll see :3
 @Javacookies [compose key but maybe applies to flick too 😁], lol
 layer shifting makes more sense, as you're going to have to do that anyway to get parts of the composition sequence
 or, better autocomplete suggestions and multi-language keyboard support
 depends really if i get flick working the way i imagine one layer can input about 60 characters
 and that's with 12 keys
 but that's all theory atm I first need to learn to build and modify
 @imraniqbal [Try this at your end: sudo ubports-qa install xenial_-_textfunctions], ppa not found
 @Javacookies [not sure how jenkins builds work though....I tried the multi-monitor PRs but som …], ha! jenkins build not found xD
 yeah not sure how to instruct jenkins to build....I really badly want to try the multi-monitor 😂
 😂😂
 i just want time to build the system i want
 @Fuseteam [ppa not found], How about this: … ```sudo ubports-qa install PR-78```
 Guys. I tried to use my phone as router through usb and I wrote (as su) 'tethering enable' but I got the error 'rdnsi not enabled'. Shall I do any additional configuration in either my laptop or phone?
 @Marcos [Guys. I tried to use my phone as router through usb and I wrote (as su) 'tetheri …], You can enable/disable this mode using the UT Tweak Tool.
 you need to use `android-gadget-service rndis enable` iirc
 Ooooh! I was not aware of Tweak tool functionality!
 set up and working!!
 thanks!
 You're welcome.
 and to you too Rodney!
 [Edit] Ubuntu Touch OTA-10 is currently delayed due to "Broken online accounts fail silently" (https://https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1195). You can continue helping us test by following https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/call-for-testing-ubuntu-touch-ota-10-238.
[14:56] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> my oneplus screen is not turning on
[14:56] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> the green light on top keeps blinking
[14:56] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> any idea how can i get it working
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> ok  i was trying to restart with power and volume up
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> did power plus volume down
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> and restarted the phone
 @Nithin Padavu [and restarted the phone], Did it work?
[15:58] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I'm trying to setup RSS, but I just noticed that I can't copy and paste my URLs from my note in Nextcloud to the RSS list. Only Select All works. The blue text selector isn't working if I try to move it to select text.
 Hello everyone. Anyone working for Samsung S7?
[16:01] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Jalvathi [Hello everyone. Anyone working for Samsung S7?], Listing of ports in progress is here: … https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues
 Thanks John
[16:04] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Jalvathi [Thanks John], I found S7 here: … https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/48
[16:05] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @John (Marlin) [I'm trying to setup RSS, but I just noticed that I can't copy and paste my URLs …], Is this a known bug on Nexus 5?
 @John (Marlin) [Is this a known bug on Nexus 5?], Sometimes that issue is related to an app
 So it may have something to do with the nextcloud app or with the rss app you are using
 Anyway. Selecting is not working well for now. It's a workaround that we have since we moved to Xenial and morph. I think it's related to the newer version of Qt
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[16:22] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @malditobastardo [Anyway. Selecting is not working well for now. It's a workaround that we have si …], Okay. Thanks. I'm typing the URLs instead.
 @John (Marlin) [Okay. Thanks. I'm typing the URLs instead.], Which app are you trying to copy the URLs from?
 @John (Marlin) [Okay. Thanks. I'm typing the URLs instead.], What I don't understand is for example. With the Notes app you have the old good behavior
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/IkDv1vbB.png
[16:35] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @malditobastardo [What I don't understand is for example. With the Notes app you have the old good …], Yes. I'm confused though. I thought Nextcloud was syncing into the Notes app, but I looked, and there's no Notes app in Scopes! But you are right. Text selection is working in the browser URL bar and the RSS text input bar.
[16:35] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Not working in the Nextcloud app.
[16:35] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> [Edit] Not working in the Nextcloud app in the Notes section.
 it is not working in html input fields inside browser though, right?
 @dohbee [it is not working in html input fields inside browser though, right?], That's why I like @Javacookies advanced text functions work — you can use it to select text within HTML fields as well.
 @John (Marlin) [I found S7 here: … https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/48], Thanks again :)
[16:43] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [it is not working in html input fields inside browser though, right?], It did work for me to paste into the omni box at duckduckgo.com.
[16:43] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Jalvathi [Thanks again :)], Hope it works out for you.
[16:45] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @John (Marlin) [It did work for me to paste into the omni box at duckduckgo.com.], But it did not let me adjust the selection in the omnibox to copy it back out again.
 @imraniqbal [That's why I like @Javacookies advanced text functions work — you can use it to …], now, now, you're promoting it too much 😂
 but yeah, it's a big help copying and pasting stuffs across apps....
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 @Javacookies [now, now, you're promoting it too much 😂], Are you kidding me?  I've been using it since last November...
 @Javacookies [now, now, you're promoting it too much 😂], I've used it more than you have!
 @imraniqbal [I've used it more than you have!], that's actually true although I got it installed (with other stuffs as well) on my edge on Nexus 5 for the past months
 That's why I'm best positioned to advocate it.  It's an excellent improvement that really deserves more testing.
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> @imraniqbal [Did it work?], Yes
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @imraniqbal [That's why I like @Javacookies advanced text functions work — you can use it to …], What app is that?
 @John (Marlin) [What app is that?], not an app. changes to the OSK
[16:52] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Oh. Okay!
 @John (Marlin) [What app is that?], It's a proposed improvement to the OSK that gives you "advanced text functions" such as select mode and cut/copy/paste.  It's slated to arrive in OTA-11 but that appears to be (at least) a few months away.
[16:52] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Meanwhile I'm dying because I've tried 3 RSS readers in the Open Store, and all of them are crashing.
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @imraniqbal [It's a proposed improvement to the OSK that gives you "advanced text functions" …], Ah! Very good!
 @John (Marlin) [Meanwhile I'm dying because I've tried 3 RSS readers in the Open Store, and all …], I was having plenty of "fun" with the RSS readers as well.  The best I've found are `RSS Reader` (which can't open the links, though) and `SimplestRSS` integrated into the `Launcher Modular` (which is nice but has a few glitches).
[16:56] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @imraniqbal [I was having plenty of "fun" with the RSS readers as well.  The best I've found …], Thanks. Simplest isn't working for me out of the box. I'm not experienced with Launcher Modular. I think I'm going to give in and use the Feedly web app.
 @John (Marlin) [Thanks. Simplest isn't working for me out of the box. I'm not experienced with L …], What issue do you have with Simplest?
[16:57] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> It's crashing and won't accept an RSS URL.
[16:57] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Feedly just locked up too :(
 @John (Marlin) [It's crashing and won't accept an RSS URL.], Strange, I'm on a N5 `devel` and it's working pretty well.
[16:58] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I was on N5 devel but went back to rc to help with the QA.
 They aren't very different right now
 Is it crashing on all RSS URLs?
[16:58] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Okay
[16:59] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> It's not crashing often, but more common is saying there's no feed at the indicated URL
 @John (Marlin) [It's not crashing often, but more common is saying there's no feed at the indica …], Do these work on the `RSS Reader` app?
[17:00] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I have 7 URLs in Feedly, and I'm starting with https://www.unixmen.com/feed/
[17:01] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @imraniqbal [Do these work on the RSS Reader app?], RSS Reader didn't work. I'd put in the URL, and then it would act like it added it, but didn't, so the feed told me I have no URLs and to add one.
 I've also tried a few RS reader apps in the store nad SimpleRSS is the one that worked although it needs improvments 😄
 Let me try that at my end.
[17:06] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Feedly Web thinks my password is wrong. I'm logged in on the PC, but on the phone it doesn't like the password!
 Yep, can't get that URL accepted in either app.
[17:07] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Okay. If I visit it in Morph, it gives the RSS key.
 @John (Marlin) [Okay. If I visit it in Morph, it gives the RSS key.], Not sure if you're in the App Dev group but I've just asked the author of SimplestRSS about that URL.
[17:20] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Oh, yes. I see your post. Thanks. I also reinstalled both SimplestRSS and RSS Reader to try more URLs.
[17:22] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Okay. RSS Reader accepted LinuxBabe.
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[17:29] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> SimplestRSS is okay with LinuxBabe too.
 @John (Marlin) [SimplestRSS is okay with LinuxBabe too.], Hmm, possibly approaching the issue in the same way.
[17:30] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Entering UnixMen into SimplestRSS crashes the app.
 @Javacookies [now, now, you're promoting it too much 😂], When do you think it will be ready??
 @John (Marlin) [Entering UnixMen into SimplestRSS crashes the app.], OK, it didn't crash the app at my side — just says that it doesn't find a feed at the URL.
[17:31] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I got that quite a few times too.
[17:31] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> But the app has been crashing sometimes too.
 @malditobastardo [When do you think it will be ready??], it'll probably land after OTA-10
[17:34] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Now RSS Reader has given me an error message for the first time on entering UnixMen: "The specified location seems not a valid RSS feed."
[17:34] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> So at least now both apps are confirmed working when a good URL is supplied.
 @John (Marlin) [Now RSS Reader has given me an error message for the first time on entering Unix …], Have you tried the `Shorter` app?  It doesn't work well with SuruDark so I haven't explored it yet.
[17:41] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't notice it since it didn't say RSS in the title. I think I'm okay with the 3 apps I have installed now. Feedly Web does give me UnixMen in the feed though.
[17:42] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Might be because it's a web app though.
[17:43] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0s0yCgoB.png
[17:44] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Oh. Teleports won't post as image!
 @John (Marlin) [Oh. Teleports won't post as image!], It does usually.  Good to know you've found a solution.
[17:46] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @imraniqbal [It does usually.  Good to know you've found a solution.], Thanks so much for all your help in figuring this out!
 You're welcome, you did it yourself, really!
[17:47] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Yeah, but you pointed me in the right direction. Also I didn't know which readers were recommended, or if they worked, so I appreciate the suggested apps.
 @John (Marlin) [Yeah, but you pointed me in the right direction. Also I didn't know which reader …], No problem.  And now I know that the Feedly webapp can handle the other RSS links.
[17:53] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @imraniqbal [No problem.  And now I know that the Feedly webapp can handle the other RSS link …], It's really coincidental that of the 6 feeds I follow, the first one I tried had a bad URL.
 @John (Marlin) [It's really coincidental that of the 6 feeds I follow, the first one I tried had …], The rest of them work?
[17:54] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I only put in LinuxBabe for now. I'll get the others later.
[17:55] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I'm already set up in Feedly, so it was just a matter of installing and logging in. I do like the image previews in RSS Reader.
[17:55] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> [Edit] I was already set up in Feedly, so it was just a matter of installing and logging in. I do like the image previews in RSS Reader.
[17:56] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> And preferred not to use a web service to aggregate my feeds.
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[19:40] <ubptgbot> <fred francois> Hello can I install Ubuntu touch on OnePlus 3
[19:45] <hallyn> what is the right place to look for the long term plans?  i.e. after 16.04 goes eol;  maintaining unity;  etc ?   is there a plan document, or launchpad blueprints, etc?
 @hallyn [what is the right place to look for the long term plans?  i.e. after 16.04 goes …], the "plan" is to move to a newer LTS by the time 16.04 is EOL (so we still have almost 2 years), and we are maintaining unity8. but there's literally only a handful of us doing it in spare time for the core system components, so it's not exactly a
[19:47] <ubptgbot> speedy thing
 and extensive documenting of plans is not sensible with such a sitaution, really
[19:51] <hallyn> well i mainly meant i didn't want to waste ppls time repeating basic info if it's well known and documented :)  thanks.
[19:51] <hallyn> howre you feeling about unity8 maintenance?  are there a lot of pieces it depends on that also are abandoned?
 there are. it's a very large stack made up of hundreds of components
[19:52] <hallyn> (ordered a new/used phone so i should be able to test finally next week, and maybe start helping out)
[19:52] <hallyn> not hundreds of abandoned ones i hope
 mostly, yep. most of the stuff was written specifically for the unity8/phone stack
[19:56] <hallyn> :(
[19:56] <hallyn> thanks for the info.
[19:57] <hallyn> I suppose this uses something more like snap than ubuntu packaging?
 it's not too bad though, really. most of it is reasonably stable and doesen't take too much work. there just are some annoying sticking parts sometimes
 @hallyn [I suppose this uses something more like snap than ubuntu packaging?], no, the rootfs is built from debian packages of core system components. apps are (generally) packaged in clicks
[19:58] <hallyn> awesome!
 but on phones, rootfs is readonly, and limited in size, so we don't support installing updates/apps with apt. updates come via system-image
[19:58] <hallyn> right
 that's what libertine is for (chroot container for running legacy apps)
 @dohbee [the "plan" is to move to a newer LTS by the time 16.04 is EOL (so we still have …], `EOL` or `End of Standard Support`?  If it's the former, then there's much longer (April 2024): … https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases.
 @imraniqbal [EOL or End of Standard Support?  If it's the former, then there's much longer (A …], extended support is irrelevant, unless you plan to buy that support from canonical for all our users
 @dohbee [extended support is irrelevant, unless you plan to buy that support from canonic …], Therefore, EOL = April 2024.
 no
 extended support = april 2024
 Look at the link I sent you.
 The last column is `End of Life`.
 @imraniqbal [Look at the link I sent you.], don't be pedantic. you know what we were talking about
 We only have standard stupport
[20:09] <Fuseteam> EOL stands for End of Life....
 @dohbee [don't be pedantic. you know what we were talking about], I really don't — you said EOL, so I was asking not telling.  Anyway, standard support is what I was expecting.
 @imraniqbal [I really don't — you said EOL, so I was asking not telling.  Anyway, standard su …], it's not my fault canonical decided to change the meaning on the wiki recently
 So we have until April 2021, basically. Either way.
 Right, so just seeking clarity.  I got caught out by this elsewhere while having a discussion about 14.04.
 @imraniqbal [Right, so just seeking clarity.  I got caught out by this elsewhere while having …], EOL for poor people
 @dohbee [EOL for poor people], Yes, time-poor people!
[20:45] <hallyn> egads, i'm sorry i brought conflict into the channel!
 @hallyn [egads, i'm sorry i brought conflict into the channel!], blame mark
 @hallyn [egads, i'm sorry i brought conflict into the channel!], Don't worry about it, it's just harmless banter.
 The chat with yourself was hacked on top of the usual private chats. Its really just like a clipboard, and do not expect that everything works in it ^^
 Were all one big dysfunctional family lol
 @fred francois [Hello can I install Ubuntu touch on OnePlus 3], https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 @Javacookies [but yeah, it's a big help copying and pasting stuffs across apps....], count me as another person that can't wait for your OSK ebhancements are in a future OTA
 @TotalSonic [count me as another person that can't wait for your OSK ebhancements are in a fu …], It's available for testing now if you're not on `edge`.
 @imraniqbal [It's available for testing now if you're not on edge.], cool - is there a link for this? Is there a click for this or do I need to install via some other method?
 it's a deb
 @TotalSonic [cool - is there a link for this? Is there a click for this or do I need to insta …], Maybe best to discuss in the QA group.
 @imraniqbal [It's available for testing now if you're not on edge.], OSK is not changed on edge afaik, so why wouldn't it work?
 @imraniqbal [Maybe best to discuss in the QA group.], cool
 @dohbee [OSK is not changed on edge afaik, so why wouldn't it work?], Someone tried it and it didn't work. Dalton knows the details.
 @dohbee [OSK is not changed on edge afaik, so why wouldn't it work?], It is.
 @TotalSonic [cool], Are you already in that group?
 @UniversalSuperBox [It is.], oh,, hmm
 @imraniqbal [Are you already in that group?], yup
[23:23] <ubptgbot> AIIoT C was added by: AIIoT C
[23:26] <ubptgbot> <AIIoT C> Ubuntu touch is developed for phones with 64-bit processors
 the meizu pro 5 is 64-bit
 currently the userspace is 32-bit though
 64-bit rootfs is not yet stable
 it's also problematic as all the compiled apps in the store are built for 32-bit only
 (for armhf that is)
 I tried the edge rootfs on my note 4 this morning, it lacks the CAF libraries, not sure if thats known or not