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juliank#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:03
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Aug 15 15:03:02 2019 UTC.  The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:03
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juliank#topic Lightning rounds15:03
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juliankecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)15:03
juliankbdmurray tdaitx vorlon mwhudson doko infinity xnox sil2100 juliank rbalint waveform cyphermox15:03
bdmurrayfinished conversion of daisy to python-cassandra (not retracer code though)15:04
bdmurraysubmitted MP and RT regarding updating daisy in production (x2)15:04
bdmurraydiscovered that daisy wasn't really updated in production / got it done again15:04
bdmurrayresearch into daisy w/ python-cassandra causing OOM kills15:04
bdmurrayreverted daisy to previous version without python-cassandra15:04
bdmurrayresolved issue with Error Tracker daily user count cronjob15:04
bdmurrayreview of u-r-u MP regarding calculating snap size requirements15:04
bdmurrayfixed a Traceback when writing to CouldNotBucket in cassandra15:04
bdmurraytriage of ubuntu-bug failing LP: #181461115:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1814611 in apport (Ubuntu Eoan) "turning off "Send error reports to Canonical" prevents using ubuntu-bug" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181461115:04
bdmurrayreview of MP regarding sru-report re: block-proposed tag15:04
bdmurraysomething of a short week as I was out yesterday15:04
bdmurray✔ done15:04
bdmurrayno tdaitx15:05
bdmurrayvorlon: ?15:05
vorlonoh noes15:05
vorlonok15:05
vorlon * discussions around secureboot on ARM for a customer15:05
vorlon * proposed-migration15:06
vorlon  * includes kicking off the mysql8 transition and trying to address long-stuck packages15:06
vorlon * reviewing an ubuntu-image request from sil210015:06
vorlon* NEW reviews in SRU15:06
vorlon(done)15:06
dokono mwhudson ...15:07
doko* back from vacations15:07
doko* catch up with things15:07
doko(done)15:07
juliankNo infinity15:07
juliankxnox:15:07
xnox* uc20:15:08
xnox  consoleconf & core20 now works15:08
xnox* s390x stuff:15:08
xnox  bug #183701615:08
ubottubug 1837016 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[19.10 FEAT] Enhanced CPU-MF hardware counters - libpfm part" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183701615:08
xnox  bug #183653215:08
ubottubug 1836532 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[19.10 FEAT] Upgrade libdfp 1.0.14" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183653215:08
xnox  bug #183912315:08
ubottubug 1839123 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[19.10 FEAT] gzip compression improvements addl. patch required" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183912315:08
xnox  bug #183504815:08
ubottubug 1835048 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[19.10 FEAT] openCryptoki ica token: add SHA*-RSA_PKCS_PSS mechanisms" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183504815:08
xnox* atlas progressing on z14 optimizied builds15:08
xnoxdone15:08
xnoxnext15:08
julianksil2100 is out15:09
juliankIt's my turn15:09
juliank.. some weird clicking later ..15:09
juliank * uploaded gpgme1.0 to bionic to fix FTBFS there (LP: #1813581)15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1813581 in gpgme1.0 (Ubuntu Bionic) "gpgme1.0 ftbfs in 18.04 LTS" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181358115:09
juliank * otherwise, it's been kind of an *apt* week.15:09
juliank * released apt 1.8.3, (fake-ish)-synced to disco, 1.8.3~deb10u1 for Debian stable (LP: #1838771 amongst others)15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1838771 in apt (Ubuntu Disco) "http:Fix Host header in proxied https connections" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183877115:09
juliank * fixed a segmentation fault introduced in apt 1.9.2 (https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/merge_requests/73, LP: #1839714)15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1839714 in apt (Ubuntu) "Segmentation fault when running apt update using libapt-pkg5.90_1.9.2" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183971415:09
juliank * wondering why dpkg SRU was released on disco and xenial but not bionic (that's not a sane order ;))15:09
juliank * learned more about AppStream and what the needs are on a package management daemon side15:09
juliank * started preparing to run black on python-apt code15:09
juliankalso as a special announcement: APT PATTERNS (for packages) ARE HERE! (https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/merge_requests/74)15:09
juliank * Purge config files: apt purge ?config-files15:09
juliank * Remove autoremovable packages: apt remove ?garbage15:09
juliank * Install packages with weird queries: apt install ?or(?name(^apt$),?and(?true,?false))15:09
juliank * Show all upgradable packages: apt-cache show ?upgradable15:09
juliank * Caveats: It's not working for search and inside preferences files so far15:09
juliank * https://people.debian.org/~jak/apt-search-terms.html contains more info (but is badly rendered; it's apt-patterns(5) manpage).15:10
juliank * Patterns for versions coming at a later point, but trying to get them in before feature freeze15:10
juliank * Will be writing a blog post about that stuff, it's super exciting.15:10
juliank(done)15:10
juliankrbalint:15:10
rbalint* tried to migrate a 243-rc1 then got it dropped from eoan-proposed and rebuilt rev deps that needed that15:10
rbalint* now preparing 241 for eoan and continuing fixing up 243 for eoan+115:10
rbalint* partner work15:10
rbalint(done)15:10
waveform* Pi 4 boot:15:10
waveform* Got u-boot working reliably across pi versions but only with conditional sections (separate u-boot for 2, 3, and 4); still no fb or kbd for u-boot on pi4 though (lacking drivers)15:10
waveform* Tidying up mkknlimg usage by pi for bug #1805668 (appears mkknlimg is no longer required; have removed it apparently successfully from the experimental u-boot package)15:10
waveform* Got a kernel working with both pi3 and pi4 \o/ (still stripping out irrelevant patches)15:10
waveform* Kernel appears fully functional on the 3, but not fully on 4 (ethernet and framebuffer working, but neither USB2 nor USB3 - lacking some config)15:10
ubottubug 1805668 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "Building armhf and arm64 Raspberry Pi 3 images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180566815:10
waveform* With a bit more work should be possible to have a single classic distribution that works on all (supported) pi platforms15:10
waveform* Upgrade path for older versions is under consideration15:10
waveform(done)15:10
cyphermoxI was out Friday, Monday and Tuesday.15:10
cyphermoxvisited wineries, looked at Legos and stuff15:11
cyphermoxpreparing netplan release15:11
cyphermox(done)15:11
juliankI guess no questions on status?15:12
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs (eoan)15:12
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juliank#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:12
bdmurraybug 184012215:13
ubottubug 1840122 in linux (Ubuntu) "System fails to reboot from live session or ubiquity-dm - squashfs_read_data failed to read block" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184012215:13
xnoxbdmurray:  so, we had those squashfs error on subiquity iso during disco release.15:15
xnoxbdmurray:  the "fails to reboot" i wonder if it's again "waiting for someone to press enter"15:15
vorlonfinalrd?15:15
xnoxbecause the squashfs_read_data hides the messages.15:16
vorlonare we doing finalrd yet?15:16
xnoxhmmmm15:16
xnoxi remember writting a finalrd hook, but i can't remember if i shipped it or not15:17
vorlonI'm sure you didn't15:17
vorlonsomething something late in cycle15:17
vorlonso do we want to commit to this?15:18
xnoxapw:  remember squashfs errors during disco sprint on subiquity image? now happening on regular desktop image too as reproduced by jibel......15:21
xnoxapw:  did we ever look into squashfs, as in are we building them wrong? is media bad? or kernel too strict?15:21
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs (bionic)15:21
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juliank#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:21
apwxnox, i remember vaguly, do we have an example of a thing which is bad ?15:22
vorlon[ACTION] xnox and apw to get to the bottom of LP: #1840122 and report back15:23
meetingologyACTION: xnox and apw to get to the bottom of LP: #1840122 and report back15:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1840122 in linux (Ubuntu) "System fails to reboot from live session or ubiquity-dm - squashfs_read_data failed to read block" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184012215:23
* apw fades into the backgroun15:23
gaughend15:24
apw*a spooky voice says* "its there bug faded out"15:26
juliankthat's what I said!15:26
vorlonthe only bug there is a 'low' systemd bug that appears to be in someone else's hands, not for us15:29
vorlonmove on?15:29
juliankok!15:29
juliank?15:29
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/183770015:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1837700 in OEM Priority Project "Dell system takes a long time to connect network with external dock" [Critical,In progress]15:30
xnoxNeed fix landing in bionic before 31st of August.15:30
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xnoxddstreet:  can we chat about systemd SRU bugs? they don't quite make sense to me, and I'm not sure if things were tested on non-dell systems, and like upgrades from xenial with ifupdown.15:34
xnoxjuliank:  NEXT15:34
juliank#topic Team proposed-migration report15:34
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juliank#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:34
cyphermoxI'm already looking at pyyaml (since last week)15:35
rbalintprometheus-blackbox-exporter can't be installed and to fix it it needs breaking a build cycle15:35
rbalinti'm already on it15:35
ddstreetxnox sure anytime15:35
juliankcyphermox: hang on, I have a card for that15:36
cyphermoxjuliank: ok, well it's /mostly/ rerunning the tests with the right trigers15:36
rbalintcan i just badtest prometheus-blackbox-exporter for a little to migrate debconf?15:37
gaughenare we talking btrfs?15:38
vorlonbtrfs-progs: xnox has already got an mp to curtin for this15:38
vorlonso that's in progress15:38
gaughencool15:38
juliankwhat's broken there? it says candidate15:38
seb128vorlon, xnox, apw, commenting a bit later, but that reboot issue is what is making daily ISO testing fail in UTAH and daily-proposed desktop not moving to current (so would be nice to get to the bottom of it)15:38
gaughenthen the debconf one15:38
vorlonrbalint: if prometheus-blackbox-exporter can't be installed, is that an autopkgtest failure that we should ignore?15:38
gaughenrbalint has debconf15:38
xnoxseb128:  ah, interesting! thanks.15:38
vorlonprometheus-blackbox-exporter badtest added15:40
vorlongolang-defaults, I've previously flagged to mwhudson's attention15:40
gaughenvorlon, I'll put on his plate15:40
vorlonjuliank: you know to look in update_output.txt for things that are lingering in 'candidate'?15:40
juliankvorlon: no15:40
vorlonjuliank: 'candidate' only means that this package meets all the policies (built, tests) for it to be considered for migration.  It can still block, if migrating it would make other packages uninstallable15:41
vorlonand that information is in update_output.txt15:41
juliankskipped: btrfs-progs (9, 33, 80)15:42
juliank    got: 41+0: a-16:a-7:a-7:i-5:p-3:s-315:42
juliank    * amd64: curtin, subiquity, subiquity-tools15:42
juliankthat's super readable15:42
vorlon;)15:42
juliankCan't we have britney output that to the html15:42
vorlonno15:42
vorlonit's a completely second pass15:42
juliankugh15:42
julianknot a good ux :D15:42
vorlonnope15:42
vorlonbut it's what exists today15:42
cyphermoxI had started discussing that with upstream15:43
cyphermox(ie. outputting some json or whatnot that could then be used)15:43
vorlonalso that file is basically log output of a process that may run multiple times15:43
cyphermoxyeah :/15:43
juliankanyway...15:43
cyphermoxand outputting it is performance-sensitive15:43
vorlonanyway, something better would be nice, but is non-trivial :)15:43
vorlonyes15:43
julianklet's continue with libvpx?15:44
vorlonlibvpx is a library transition; seb128 was looking at it the other day15:44
cyphermoxI kinda half know what I'm getting into there, but I'm volunteering to help seb128 with it if necessary15:44
seb128I didn't get far and I'm off tomorrow so if someone wants to look as well please do15:44
vorlonffmpeg had a failing autopkgtest on armhf; xpra fails on ppc64el; and it's entangled with mysql via mythtv (which might be transiently removable)15:44
cyphermoxwe can still move it forward a bit15:45
seb128ffmpeg got updated to a new version at the same time as the libvpx update, we would try the previous version on armhf to see if that one works15:45
gaughenthanks cyphermox15:46
seb128I wanted to do that today but didn't get to it15:46
juliankpython-tz caused pandas to regress15:46
vorlonjuliank: python2-only regression?15:47
vorlondo we resolve that by dropping python2 from pandas? :)15:47
juliankunittests            FAIL non-zero exit status 13715:47
juliankunittests3           PASS15:47
juliankI mean looks like it15:47
vorlonthere are a few revdeps that would need unwinding, but it's tractable and probably a better use of time than fixing the python2-specific ppc64el pandas test failure15:48
juliank../../../usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pandas/tests/series/test_analytics.py::TestSeriesAnalytics::test_isin Killed15:49
xnoxhttp://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/p/pandas/eoan/amd64 -> triggered by pytest => fails in both py2 and py315:49
xnoxbecause of newer pytest15:49
xnoxhttps://pandas-docs.github.io/pandas-docs-travis/whatsnew/v0.25.0.html15:50
vorlona volunteer to drop python2 support for pandas and its revdeps?15:51
gaughendo it vorlon15:51
vorlonok15:51
vorlonI'll take it15:51
gaughenaptdaemon15:53
juliankSo15:53
juliankthis was passing once15:53
juliankit normally does not15:53
juliankthere is some weird hang on arm64 most of the time15:53
vorlononce upon a time once, or exactly once once?15:53
vorlonso it's flaky and we should badtest it?15:53
juliankand it's only regressing now because it suddenly passed15:54
juliankyeah15:54
rbalintjuliank, i'm adding a badtest15:54
xnoxhttp://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/m/mysql-connector-c++ good url15:55
rbalinthints for today https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/britney/autopkgtest-eoan-hints/+merge/37135615:57
julianklet's skip the rest of the list, it's getting long16:01
juliank#topic Chair selection for next meeting16:01
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cyphermoxI volunteer16:01
juliankacknowledged!16:01
juliank#topic AOB16:01
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juliankany other business?16:02
vorlonrbalint: merged; were you going to add mysql-connector-c++ hints also?16:02
rbalintvorlon, i pushed that as well a few secs ago :-)16:03
vorlonok16:03
rbalinti'm rebasing16:03
rbalinta sec16:03
vorlonrbalint: you forgot the word 'force-badtest' at the start of that hint ;)16:03
rbalintahh16:04
vorlonjuliank: no other business16:04
juliank#endmeeting16:04
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Aug 15 16:04:17 2019 UTC.16:04
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-08-15-15.03.moin.txt16:04
vorlonthanks, all!16:04
rbalintvorlon, fixed the hint, thanks!16:05
vorlonand re-merged16:07
vorlonxnox: ^^ see? that easy16:07

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