[00:00] aha [00:49] On Ubuntu 19.04, how can I get my RX 5700 to fully work? I tried upgrading to the 5.3 kernel + using oibaf's PPA, but my 2nd monitor is completely black and I think I'm using software rendering [01:10] how I can find from what package is coming libQtMultimedia.so.4? [01:11] apt-file search is a great tool for that === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:50] Hi guys, what would be the easiest way to map a three finger up gesture to show all windows like when you click on "activities" in gnome? [02:07] what/where is pointing an app to load a lib from /usr/local/UbuntuLib ? I can't see nothing related in ld.so.conf.d [02:10] Betal: what causes you to ask this question? [02:12] because I just place some .so inside there and the suposed app works [02:12] I just found this folder doing a distro upgrade [02:12] looks a "i cant update this, lets keep somewhere" folder [02:14] Betal: if you don't know why that directory is on your system, it sounds very much like malware to me [02:14] sarnold: i don't think [02:14] sarnold: just did a Ubuntu 12 to 14, and it have this folder with old libs [02:16] Betal: neither of those LTS releases are supported anymore. Also, "12" and "14" aren't versions of Ubuntu [02:16] erm, 12.04.5 to 14.04 so [02:17] Betal: I strongly doubt any legitimate tooling from debian or ubuntu would use /usr/local/ in this fashion; the stow package is the *only* package I've ever heard of that does anything in /usr/local, and I doubt it would use "UbuntuLib" [02:17] Betal: there's *seven* hits on google for "UbuntuLib" [02:18] none of them are remotely useful :) [02:18] there's no results for "UbuntuLib" with apt-file on 14.04 [02:18] I just did a test, I know this will no be "ubuntu support related" because "old ubuntu" and cross distro test [02:18] hiding malware in a bunch of libraries in /usr/local/UbuntuLib/ seems the most likely cause of this to me === jje_ is now known as jje [02:19] but I installed my app on the Ubuntu 12.04.5, updated everything, upgrade to 14, copy pasted from ubuntu 14 to mint 18 in the same place, and the app that was missing the libQtMultimedia.so.4 start working [02:20] and thanks about the apt-file, was great to find packages with it [02:35] how do I list all Machine Owner Keys? [02:35] and remove redundant ones [02:35] remove old keys [02:38] Anyone know how to activate input echo on a telnet session? I can't see what I'm typing when logged in. [02:39] beatleboy07: stty echo [02:40] sarnold: where would I do that? [02:40] beatleboy07: at a shell prompt [02:40] I'm using xfce4-terminal. [02:42] can someone tell me which machine owner keys you should have by default on a ubuntu 18.04 installation? [02:42] Once I'm in the shell prompt, I don't have echo. [02:42] And stty echo is an unknown command. [02:42] I have 3, one from canonical, 2 from something else [02:42] beatleboy07: ugh :( no stty? hmmm [02:43] When I'm on Windoze and I go in through PuTTY, I have echo. [02:43] beatleboy07: how about reset? [02:43] anyone on ubuntu 18.04 ? can you run mokutil -l and tell me how many show up? [02:43] I guess that could be a setting within PuTTY? But now on my home system, I don't. [02:43] The device I'm in with telnet is very limited. [02:44] beatleboy07: ahhhh.. try ^E -- the telnet manpage says that changes a local echo mode [02:45] So the echo is dependent on the device I'm connected to? [02:45] echo is usually handled by the terminal driver of whatever system you're logged in to [02:45] but if it doesn't have the interfaces I expect to use to configure those, maybe local echo in telnet can do? [02:46] And so I'm not confused, ^E is Ctrl+E? [02:46] Or do you mean type in '^E'? [02:46] I tried both and it didn't work. [02:46] anyone on ubuntu 18.04 ? can you run mokutil -l and tell me how many show up? [02:47] beatleboy07: control+e yeah.. [02:47] Looks like I might be hosed. Strange though that I get Echo with PuTTY. [02:47] Cooler: sorry mate, both my 18.04 lts machines are legacy boots.. [02:48] beatleboy07: yeah, that kind of confuses me too. I might suspect the terminal that's sent by the connecting client to influence what happens, but if the device is as simple as I think it is, that feels pretty unlikely.. [02:48] It's a very simple device. [02:49] I can't say much about it because of NDA. [02:49] It seems silly, but maybe I need to install PuTTY for Ubuntu. [02:56] beatleboy07: hmm.. try this: socat STDIO,echo=1 TCP:whatever:23 [02:57] Haven't used socat before. Installing now. So try that command in order to connect to the device? [02:57] yeah [02:58] Okay, cool. That seems to work. [02:58] It's a little weird. [02:58] socat's a crazy impressive tool.. i don't have easy access to exactly what you've got but changing the 1 to a 0 on port 22 worked :D [02:58] err, rather, echo=0 with port 22 doesn't do local echo, echo=1 with port 22 does do local echo [02:58] I type the command, hit enter, it first shows the command I'm about to send and then I have to hit enter again. [02:59] *really*?? [02:59] Yeah. [02:59] that is weird [02:59] heh [02:59] But it's definitely better than not knowing if I made a typo until I've sent the command. [02:59] (my 'hello' gets sent to sshd immediately, which reports "protocol mismatch" and kills the thing [03:00] oh I wonder if that's because you're actually doing TELNET, but by hand. I know there's a handful of extra control messages that socat is probably not going to handle correctly [03:01] Yeah. That could be. I'll look into this, but it looks like perhaps this is just opening a TCP socket. [03:01] yeah [03:01] it's a lot like nc [03:01] It looks similar to netcat. [03:01] but has an option for local echo :D [03:01] Haha. [03:01] Okay. [03:01] (in addition to a billion other toggles) [03:02] Well, awesome. New tool. Thanks! [03:02] you're welcome :) I'm glad something worked out [03:02] even if it is a bit weird.. [03:03] Oh it's a big relief. This is a device that is sending and receiving tons of network packets, so I can never quite tell where I'm typing and what I've typed. [03:06] Hey, how would I get Ubuntu 19.04 to actually use my RX 5700 instead of software-rendering everything? [03:09] alentoghostflame: which PPA are you using for Mesa? [03:10] Oibaf's [03:11] That does seem like it should work [03:11] Im also running the 5.3-rc3 kernel, could that be the issue? [03:12] Most of the benchmarks I've seen were running 5.3 [03:12] I think that's the only kernel supporting Navi [03:12] You have LLVM 9, right? [03:13] how would I check? [03:13] nvm, glxinfo says i have 9.0 [03:14] which ppa has xfce4.14? [04:05] so 19.04 is not LTS? [04:05] donofrio, no. 16. 04 is, 18.04, 20.04 etc [04:06] every 2 years there is a lts version. [04:42] Why hibernation slow in linux ? [05:18] anyone here on ubuntu 18.04 and have secure boot on? [05:19] please run mokutil -l and tell me how many keys you find there [05:34] ffs [05:34] can someone just do one thing please? [05:34] no swearing here plz Cooler [06:05] Hi. I finally took the plunge and reinstalled ubuntu. Now I am missing settings from "mouse & trackpad". I only have primary button and doubleckick speed. Missing settings for scroll and tap to click. I think I am missing a package? [06:05] is it safe for me to copy paste .ko files into /lib/modules/5.0.0-25-generic ? [06:05] because modprobe looks in that folder for modules to load [06:05] $ sudo modprobe vboxdrv [06:05] modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found in directory /lib/modules/5.0.0-25-generic === aavar is now known as aavar__ [06:16] Hey all [06:16] rsyslogd: action 'action 4' resumed (module 'builtin:omfile') [v8.32.0 try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2359 ] [06:16] Is full of syslog [06:16] Is it possible to fix that on 18.04? [06:17] Linux HOST 4.15.0-55-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 2 18:22:20 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [06:34] I am having touble installing teamviewer11 on my system. It depends on packages not available. How can I fix this? I had it working before, but now I cant remember how. [06:41] have you by chance upgraded from one ubuntu release to another recently? [06:50] Aavar: be careful with teamviewer, there were some recent security flaws with it, maybe check for more safer ways to remote? ssh perhaps? [06:56] lotuspsychje, I know... but I "have to" use it for work. I guess I'll have to remember to dissable when not in use. [06:56] geirha, was that for me? I just reinstalled ubuntu [07:24] Anyone :) [07:25] is this a good place to ask basic linux questions? I'm trying to make an ubuntu bootable USB using puppy linux and each method I try fails. Been at it for a day. Is there a linux community that can help? [07:26] LinuxNoob911: #linux [07:26] ##linux * [07:26] Also here's a channel for that too [07:26] 'cause you're using ubuntu [07:27] LinuxNoob911: Have you tried dd? [07:27] Yep tried dd, ddrescue, unetbootin, and etcher. All failed [07:28] For example, first format device entirely, "sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/disk bs=512 oflag=sync status=progress" [07:28] Please, define "failed" [07:31] Sure. Etcher produced a "something went wrong..." error. UnetBootin created the usb drive successfully, but upon boot, the usb drive could not boot. Same for dd. I know this is not a bios issue because I am using a puppylinux which boots from usb. [07:31] Do not use UnetBottin. It's deprecatedthough [07:32] ddrescue I entered ddrescue ~spot/Downloads/ubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso /dev/sdd1, this produced the error: ddrescue: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 [07:32] Where you've downloaded ISO? [07:32] What's the USB/ [07:32] Have you tried another pen drive? [07:34] Only have two pen drives at the moment. I would install puppy on my hard drive to free up the verified bootable usb, but puppy install produces an error saying no support fr eufi devices [07:34] usb is a lexmark cruzer 8gb. [07:59] fr uefi? [07:59] for*? [09:40] I am trying to get XScreensaver to run, but each time I start the machine I am informed that the daemon is not running. HOw can I get it to run each time I start. I know it needs to probably go into a file preceded with a . but I don;t know which one. [09:43] Ascavasaion: Each DE has options in settings/power management to enable/disable Screensaver [10:30] tarzeau: thanks for telling where *.desktop files are. [10:30] welcome, find or locate would have also told you, or dpkg -L yourpkg [11:17] Hy guys, my intel wifi card not have ciphers for PMF feature (Protected Management Frame). This is a problem of iwlwifi driver or a intel-firmware implementations? [11:21] Hello? [11:21] !rootirc | ir0ng0d [11:21] ir0ng0d: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. [11:27] Hello? [11:28] Is kali based on ubuntu? [11:28] !kali | ir0ng0d [11:28] ir0ng0d: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [11:40] hello, I have a question; I have the LVM physical volume which is of 500 Gig size and one logical volume that is 4 Gig ... what is the easiest way to use the entire disk with that volume? thanks [11:41] hay: see lvresize - the -l options might do what you want [11:41] s/options/option/ [11:43] ayekat, thanks [11:45] ayekat, it works, thanks again :) [11:45] hay: you're welcome ^^ [11:53] Raman Sarda: [11:53] A friend of mine has a problem with almost all ubuntu versions. Live usb works fine. Installation also completes successfully and then after rebooting, when he enters password at the log in screen. His screen goes blank. Nothing works. Not even ctrl-alt-F1/F2. [11:53] He's downloading lubuntu rn. But anyone has any ideas as to why same problem occurs in Ubuntu, kubuntu, manjaro kde, kde neon and elementary OS? [11:53] Works fine with Pop OS. But he's looking for something other than gnome. [11:54] The_LoudSpeaker: is this a clevo/system76 machine with intel UHD graphics? [11:54] No. [11:55] The_LoudSpeaker: on wich kernel versions is this happening? [11:57] His system is a dell inspiron 7576. The issue appears to be on lts versions of the systems. [11:58] The_LoudSpeaker: what kind of graphics card in this system please? [12:00] lotuspsychje: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti [12:00] The_LoudSpeaker: for the GTX versions we reccomend latest drivers from the ubuntu graphics ppa, first you need to enter system with !nomodeset, then add the ppa and install the latest driver [12:01] !nomodeset | The_LoudSpeaker [12:01] The_LoudSpeaker: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [12:01] !nvidia | The_LoudSpeaker [12:01] The_LoudSpeaker: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [12:01] Thanks! I wil tell him. And let you know if it works. [12:13] Howdy folks [12:18] Hi. I just bought a Lenovo laptop. Installed Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS on it successfully. But the Wifi won't work. It says "Turn Wifi on" but when I do that nothing happens. I checked the Wifi on the Windows installation that came with the laptop and that works OK. [12:19] e|f: whats the chipset of your wifi card please [12:19] how do I find that out. Would you give me the terminal command please [12:20] e|f: sudo lshw -C network [12:20] ok [12:20] "Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165 Plus Bluetooth" [12:21] e|f: intel? [12:21] yep [12:21] Bluetooth itself seems to work ok, to add to that [12:21] e|f: weird, those are mostly working out of the box, are you dualbooting uefi mode? [12:21] yeah [12:22] i even tried reinstalling ubuntu from my burned DVD iso and made sure the wifi part of installation went ok [12:22] e|f, can you paste dmesg | grep iwl ? [12:22] e|f: try fastboot & secureboot OFF and compare please, uefi settings can influence hardware [12:24] ioria: loaded firmware version... detected Intel... base HW address.. Selected rate control algorithm... renamed from wlan0 [12:24] i can't paste as it's another machine and it's not connected to the internet [12:25] also all i use here is Wifi... no ethernet... so i can't just check for software updates etc... otherwise I would've [12:25] e|f, lsmod | grep ideapad [12:27] ideapad_patop 36864 0; sparse_keymap 16384 1 ideapad_laptop; wmi 28672 1 ideapad_laptop; video 49153 2 ideapad_laptop, i915 [12:27] e|f, rfkill list all [12:29] 0: ideapad_wlan: Wireless Lan soft blocked: no hard blocked: yes; 1: ideapad_bluetooth Bluetooth soft blocked: yes hardblocked: yes; 2: hci0: Bluetooth soft blocked: yes hard blocked: no; 3: phy0: Wireless Lan soft blocked: no hard blocked: no; [12:30] (hope i typed that out ok) [12:30] e|f, echo "blacklist ideapad-laptop" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ideapad-blacklist.conf and reboot === WinterNight1 is now known as WinterNight [12:31] e|f, if it does not work, just remove that file (/etc/modprobe.d/ideapad-blacklist.conf) [12:32] ok... i ran those commands and rebooting now [12:32] thanks so much for the help, btw [12:32] it's ok [12:33] wow... progress... now i see a list of availables === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB [12:35] e|f, you probably need to set ssid and passphrase in network-manager [12:36] i tested it - opened up a firefox and went to google.com [12:36] works [12:36] ok [12:36] k now quick give me your home address so i can post you a crate of beer [12:37] haha [12:37] hehehe no problem [12:38] yeah cool... apt, software updates, browser ... all works [12:38] thank you so much :) bye ~~~ [12:38] bye [12:42] whenever i logged into ubuntu server 18.04.3, the prompt report "8 packages can be upated; 8 updates are security updates", what are those? as I have cron to apt-update daily and it came out clean after manually checking, so nothing to update, but when I login it always reported something to be updated, I checked sources.list (used the default) and for sure security line is there too [12:43] spent 30 minutes to check aroud crontab etc, come out clean, but confused by this "misleading" info? [12:44] ausjke, sudo apt list --upgradeable [12:46] ioria: it showed up some security update at a different kernel revision [12:46] ausjke, can you paste it ? [12:46] linux-generic/bionic-updates,bionic-security 4.15.0.58.60 amd64 [upgradable from: 4.15.0.55.57] [12:46] uname -a [12:47] 4.15.0-55-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 2 18:22:20 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [12:48] ausjke, you need to run apt full-upgrade if you want the new version [12:48] ithink you want [12:48] i kind of see the problem [12:48] cronjob will apt-update once, then wait for a day [12:49] however this one apt-update packages first without upgrading the kernel, a following up crontab will do that, so, for cases like this I need two apt-update in a row? [12:49] just run the cron commands again and it fixes it [12:50] don't know what apt full-upgrade, isnt it the default? why do I want a partial upgrade ever [12:51] a while ago i had issues with apt in crontab and was suggested for scripting i should always use apt-get instead, apt is designed for interactive usage really, [12:51] but apt-get does not have full-upgrade...i guess i will just run it twice in cron each time then [12:52] i do apt-get autoclean etc of course [12:52] ausjke, doesn't apt-get dist-upgrade do the job? [12:53] Habbie: that's very intrusive, i dont want to dist-upgrade blindly [12:53] ausjke, they're the same thing [12:53] Habbie: then i shall do neither in cron :) [12:54] i haven't read everything, is there a reason you're not using unattended-upgrades? [12:54] anyway the right way to upgrade for me: run it twice, check if a reboot is needed, if so reboot, and run cron @reboot too, to make sure an always updated server [12:55] ausjke: running apt update twice does nothing. The difference is running apt update vs apt full-upgrade (dist-upgrade) [12:55] sorry, update/upgrade [13:10] what is the equivalent apt-get command to search (into description and name) for example "nvidia" in synaptic? [13:10] gst568923, apt-cache search [13:11] gst568923: apt-cache show nvidia [13:11] (if you want more details) [13:14] Habbie I have try dpkg-query -l | grep "nvidia" but not all relevant packages are shown [13:14] gst568923, that just shows what you have installed [13:14] Habbie your command return me `N: Impossibile selezionare le versioni dal pacchetto "nvidia" poiché è virtuale, N: Nessun pacchetto trovato" [13:15] gst568923, that's the error from 'apt-cache show', i said 'apt-cache search' [13:16] Habbie sorry I refer to EriC^ [13:17] Habbie apt-cache search nvidia return me also the package not installed, I have need only installed [13:20] gst568923, add --installed [13:22] hi! [13:22] I'm having trouble making a bridge working with kvm. If I use a network like 192.168.5.0/24 it works like a charm, but when I try to use my physical network 192.168.0.0/24, to make my VMs reachable from the network it always says "Network is already in use by interface X". If I ifdown interface X and retry, it shows the same message, related to another device. Any idea on how to solve it? Thanks! [13:22] Habbie `apt-cache --installed search nvidia` where I wrong? [13:22] I'm running ubuntu 18.04 and configuring the bridge using netplan (which seems to be doing it right...) [13:23] gst568923, oh, indeed, that does not work [13:24] Habbie not works, but in the `man apt-cache` there is the installed option [13:29] Habbie, if you're looking for searching installed packages: apt list --installed will list all installed packages, apt list --installed package_name will look for that one :) [13:30] luixal, gst568923 is asking :) [13:30] ups, miss-follow the conversation, sorry [13:33] luixal I have try `apt list --installed | grep "nvidia" > packages` this command show me 23 packages but when I search with synaptic (description and name) the word "nvidia" show me 30 packages [13:54] gst568923: better to use the search pattern with apt command itself, as in "apt list --installed 'nvidia*' [13:56] TJ- works but results are less [13:57] what's the recommended way to install virtualenv for python3. "sudo apt-get install virtualenv" or "pip3 install virtualenv"? [13:59] gst568923: those are the *installed* packages, drop the "--installed" if you want to list *all* packages that start with "nvidia" [14:01] TJ- xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, vdpauinfo... not have a nvidia word but have nvidia word in the description and than appears on synaptic results [14:02] gst568923: ahhh, in which case "apt-cache search nvidia" [14:02] TJ- I try it but it's not complete [14:02] gst568923: what are you trying to do? [14:06] TJ- I'll explain, I open the synaptic program and search for the word "nvidia" by setting "Description and name" as a search. Now I wanted to know what is the equivalent of this procedure on the terminal, in order to print the list of packages (the same as those shown by synaptic) === jelly-home is now known as jelly [14:15] Can your EFI partition be on a Logical Volume? [14:17] Nevermind I don't think it's supposed to be [14:18] seanrdev, no, EFI only understands vfat, no fancy bits [14:29] hi why WUBI installer is no longer used any more? [14:29] Guest33553, well, it was always kind of hacky and dependent on Windows to not break it [14:30] lordcirth: does WUBI installer use some kind of loop device? [14:32] Guest33553, it made a file on the Windows NTFS partition, which it mounted as a loop device, yeah. IIRC. [14:35] yeah it seemed problematic if it running as a standalone windows application. [14:36] It's not a Windows application exactly; it boots from it's own bootloader entry, it just loads the file as it's root device. [14:36] In the description of nouveau-firmware package "This package is temporary; the nouveau drivers will soon be able togenerate this data on the fly." means that MmioTrace command is optional to extract the firmware? [14:40] gst568923: that takes a bit of work! but this should do it: awk 'BEGIN{IGNORECASE=1} {D=0} /^Package:/ {P=$2} /^Description/ || /^ / {D=1} ( $0 ~ /nvidia/ && D==1) || P ~ /nvidia/ {print P} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/*{Packages,Translation*} | sort | uniq [14:41] <[itchyjunk]> Hi, i've disabled all the "auto update" type option i can find on my firefox. Studies, autoupdated etc etc. How can I stop it from doing this ? https://imgur.com/a/Rlxex5S [14:41] oh it not running while windows is running ? I had a wrong impression? [14:43] Guest33553, no, it's not a virtual machine. The file is just embedded in the existing partition, so you don't need to repartition. [14:43] Guest33553, if you want a VM, you can use Virtualbox. [14:44] [itchyjunk]: Firefox will not auto-update itself in Ubuntu, if it's installed through the Ubuntu package management [14:44] <[itchyjunk]> leftyfb, it came when i installed ubuntu 18.04. I didn't manually install firefox. [14:45] [itchyjunk]: then there's no need to "disable" anything [14:45] <[itchyjunk]> leftyfb, as you can see, i get that "updated in the background" message once in a while. [14:45] lordcirth: i'd use WSL rather than VM [14:45] [itchyjunk]: probably from Ubuntu package updates [14:45] Guest33553, if WSL is enough for your use case, sure. [14:45] <[itchyjunk]> leftyfb, i have set those to manual and haven't update then in at least 2 weeks. [14:45] <[itchyjunk]> Why would firefox say it updated in the background and crash now? [14:46] lordcirth: what is the principle behind WSL? curious.. [14:46] [itchyjunk]: why are you insistent on preventing any sort of updates? [14:47] Guest33553, Win10's kernel has the basic syscalls needed to run Linux processes in a separate namespace. Kinda like LXC? I'm not familiar with it, though. [14:47] <[itchyjunk]> leftyfb, so that's the answer to how do i stop firefox from silently updating in the background? [14:47] lordcirth: the new WSL uses a proper linux kernel [14:47] oh, interesting [14:47] TJ- no, the command list also the package not installed [14:48] lordcirth: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/05/ubuntu-support-windows-subsystem-linux-2 [14:48] [itchyjunk], most likely you made a mistake disabling automatic updates. That being said, you should be doing updates. [14:48] <[itchyjunk]> lordcirth, what type of mistake? So i can correct it and make sure firefox isn't doing any background updates. [14:48] gst568923: it is meant to , it searches all the package lists that Apt has fetched [14:50] [itchyjunk]: it's not firefox updating itself, but Ubuntu updating it. you can check the logs at /var/log/apt/history.log to confirm [14:50] TJ- I only need those installed that contain nvidia in the description [14:50] [itchyjunk]: care to inform us why you want to disable updates? That's typically a bad idea. [14:50] <[itchyjunk]> thsnr, is there a way for me to tell ubuntu not update firefox? [14:51] gst568923: the shell gives you the power to filter the list in any way you like as you can see from what I've done with 'awk'. You could compare that list with installed packages and just print the matches [14:51] <[itchyjunk]> leftyfb, i don't want things updating itself without me telling it to. [14:52] [itchyjunk]: FF about:config app.update.auto [14:54] as mentioned, not updating your software is a bad idea (for over 2 weeks). not updating your browser is an especially bad idea [14:55] how do i tell what drive is connected on ata20.00? kernel is giving errors about it, but they're too obtuse i can't tell what hardware is causing them [14:57] <[itchyjunk]> thsnr, i don't mind updating as soon as the update comes out. as long as i get a pop up message or something. firefox just crashes tabs and asks to be restarted and doesn't recover all tabs which has caused issues [15:01] [itchyjunk]: put all the changes you made to FF back. None of those affect the application getting updated. Ubuntu packages won't get automatically updated either unless you have unattended updates enabled === SuperL4g is now known as SuperLag [15:05] kxsl: this may help: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/*ata* " [15:14] TJ-, that doesn't work. i need to find what's connected to ata20.00 [15:14] kxsl, dmesg | grep ata20 [15:15] kxsl: if there's no symlink there mentioning the device the kernel couldn't get that far, because udev creates a link there once the device is added. You'd expect e.g. "/dev/disk/by-path/pci-0000:00:1f.2-ata-1 -> ../../sda" [15:16] kxsl: otherwise do as ioria suggests, you'd expect something like "ata1.00: ATA-9: SanDisk SSD i110 128GB, i221000, max UDMA/133" [15:18] that helped a little thanks. it says its atapi: marvell virtuall [15:19] kxsl: another possibility is "ls -l /sys/class/scsi_generic/" => " sg0 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/scsi_generic/sg0" [15:19] kxsl: but this all assumes the block device was able to be created (sda == sg0 ) [15:20] i don't know. computer keeps going to emergency mode and this is the closest thing to an error i can find [15:22] kxsl, have you run a fs check on it ? [15:22] yes [15:22] and ? [15:22] all clean [15:22] kxsl, then check your fstab [15:23] ive already commented out all the drives i dont absolutely need to boot [15:23] kxsl: did "journalctl -xb -p warning" not help? [15:24] ...maybe you shouldn't comment out the / mount in the fstab [15:24] all i did before this started was install updates and remove a failed drive. no idea what i would look for in fstab since i haven't touched it in months [15:25] this time i booted. i changed a setting in the mobo firmware to check and update marvell rom [15:27] kxsl: did you remove the wrong drive? :) [15:27] kxsl: how many drives, what config? RAID ? [15:29] hello? [15:29] im new here [15:29] just wondering, how do i turn off screen reader? [15:29] no, i removed the right drive for sure. 1 ssd boot drive (REQUIRED), multiple other drives, one is /home, the other are just data drives, but there is a RAID in there [15:30] i cant shut the damn thing up lol [15:30] kxsl: it seems strange you get an ATA error after performing a hardware change... If you're sure you replaced the failed device with a good one I'd bet you've not correctly reconnected the data link or power to it [15:31] dmp2006: how did you enable it in the first place? which screen-reader are you using? [15:31] dmp2006: usually those options are in Settings > Accessibility [15:31] what's that ? orca ? [15:32] idk [15:32] i was using a bluetooth speaker and then it started [15:32] i think its orca [15:32] dmp2006, ps -a | grep orca [15:32] dmp2006, ps -A | grep orca [15:32] do i put that into terminal? [15:33] yup [15:33] k, one sec [15:33] do i put the output here? [15:33] so, it's running ? [15:33] !paste | dmp2006 if it's more than a few lines: [15:33] dmp2006 if it's more than a few lines:: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [15:34] all i got is ( 7012 ? 00:01:22 orca ) [15:34] dmp2006, killall orca [15:34] k, one sec [15:34] omg it worked! [15:34] thanks!! [15:34] ok [15:35] i had it on for 3 days and it was driving me insane [15:35] lol [15:35] thanks for the help! [15:35] no prob [15:35] i might save that command as well [15:35] just in case [15:36] still, thanks for the help, i got to install some stuff, bye! [15:36] bye [15:37] it looks like there's a job trying to run for one of the non-critical drives preventing the booting, but why? [15:42] kxsl, if there's a drive listed in fstab, without noauto or x-systemd.automount, then boot will wait for it [15:44] why is that a problem just now? [15:48] noauto sounds like it wont be mounted at all, which NOT what I want. [15:58] kxsl: noauto means that the device, if present, will not be automatically mounted. It then means the fstab entry is used to define other options such that the user can easily mount the device later with the missing parameters, such as credentials, but the mount point and other options can be saved [16:00] that's absolutely a no go then. these drives have been in the system for YEARS. they have the right mount options [16:02] problem may lvm. the raid is present, but the vgs and lvs don't appear [16:53] kxsl, perhaps I misunderstood your previous messages. I thought you meant that you had removed a drive. === BurekzFinezt is now known as Burek === neanderslob is now known as samChanneleyes [18:07] hi, any idea why adjusting brightness via my laptop keyboard lags for 1 second after the key stroke === bernhard_ is now known as enoq [18:14] enoq: Please refrain from changing your name right after you ask a question. As for your question, depending on your computer, if the "soft keys" are not routed through the bios, then it may take a moment or two for Ubuntu to execute an application that triggers the change. [18:16] pragmaticenigma: yeah, my irc client is buggy [18:16] (polari) [18:16] not even sure if I'm authed [18:17] Hi, is there any way to change screen brightness without X? Currently running tmux in tty and still struggling to change the brightness [18:18] lamurian_: If you have an Intel based graphics chipset, this may work for you: https://askubuntu.com/a/149265 [18:18] enoq, you are authed - otherwise you could not have joined #ubuntu [18:19] ok, weird because I can't join #archlinux it seems [18:19] lamurian_: echo $VAL > /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness where $VAL is between 0 and /sys/class/backlight/*/max_brightness [18:20] Habbie, enoq: #ubuntu does not regularly require registration to join. When spammers become an issue, the moderators will temporarily activate the registration flag on the channel. But it only lasts for 24 hours [18:21] lamurian_: e.g. to push it to max, with an intel backlight controller: " echo $(cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness ) > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness " [18:21] pragmaticenigma, ah! then i must have picked this up during such an event [18:24] thanks for the suggestion pragmaticenigma, unfortunately it doesn't work since I'm not connected to X. Using xbacklight gave me error -1 [18:25] TJ-'s answer works like a charm though! [18:25] But I'll need to run it as root everytime. Still, it works so I'm happy haha. Thanks guys [18:25] lamurian_: That was further down on the page that I linked to ;-) glad it worked [18:26] lamurian_: You could create an alias or bash script to store the commands in, such that you could trigger it and then be prompted for your root password... you could also setup sudo to not require a password for that particular command [18:27] whoops didn't read it thru the end :p I guess it's all there and laziness just hit me hard [18:27] I agree, I think configuring sudo not to prompt password to this particular command makes more sense [18:28] lamurian_: if 'root' bothers you add a udev rule to set a different group as owner, and the modes to g+rw, and ensure your user is in that group. Or just use " echo val | sudo dd of=/sys/class/backlight/.../brightness " and add an entry into /etc/sudoers.d/yourrule that allows your user to run "dd of=/sys/class/backlight" woth NOPASSWD [18:29] lamurian_: there may also be a dbus method you can use which wouldn't require privileges [18:35] Cool! So let me summarize the solution: with X -> use xbacklight or xrandr; otherwise -> directly change the value within /sys/class/../brightness. Command can be written as an alias in .bashrc or as a script. Workaround for su privilege: use NOPASSWD in sudoer file or set dbus. [18:35] Really appreaciate your help TJ- and pragmaticenigma :) [18:37] lamurian_: if you're in a tty but there is an Xserver running (on display 0) you can also do "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr ..." or any other X program that needs to know which DISPLAY to configure [18:38] lamurian_: most X/GUI applications will take a --display/-display/-d option directly too; check the relevant program's --help/-h [18:38] pragmaticenigma: thanks for the hint, had to reconnect with polari [18:40] I see.. so I assume X instance is somehow(?) connected with currently running tty, even if it's on a different login session [18:40] That makes me wonder with what I may did wrong with my script though [18:41] So I wrote a script to notify me regarding my battery status. The idea is to send notification if the battery reaching certain threshold, with different threshold condition according to the bat status (charging / discharging) [18:42] And the script should be able to recognize whether or not I'm using X [18:42] It runs just fine when I execute it directly from shell (both in tty and in X session) [18:43]