[02:07] <ubptgbot> Dimas was added by: Dimas
[02:43] <ubptgbot> zerojuan was added by: zerojuan
[04:47] <Fuseteam> android 8.1 is not compatible with halium atm
[04:48] <Fuseteam> feel free to ask in #halium
 hmmm i don't see those messages on this side
 I do
[10:44] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I thought i would try and join the conversation with the bluetooth thing. I fall at all hurdles.
[10:45] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> How do i click on a link in telegram on my phone?
[10:45] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> Also, how do i untick all?
 Which Telegram app are you using? It sounds like it's the old app. TELEports is the development focus now.
 both
 @j2g2rp [both], Sorry, that was supposed to be directed at Graham.
 lol 😆
 @Graham Clark [How do i click on a link in telegram on my phone?], ^.
 @j2g2rp [both], Out of interested, so do I. But recently I've found that I'm hardly ever opening the old one. What features do you still use it for?
 @j2g2rp [both], [Edit] Out of interest, so do I. But recently I've found that I'm hardly ever opening the old one. What features do you still use it for?
 contacts, sharing  and untill last week voice messages 😂
 (incoming voice messages)
 @j2g2rp [contacts, sharing  and untill last week voice messages 😂], Not long now... but that sharing is definitely a useful one, though.
 @j2g2rp [(incoming voice messages)], Working now on teleports b
 @UniversalSuperBox [No problem. Do you have a supported device, one from https://devices.ubuntu-touc …], No, I have with Android OS Huawei Honor 10
 @UniversalSuperBox [(That's also an Express.js site, if you like Express)], Yeap, it's cool
 @webMonkeyfromUA [No, I have with Android OS Huawei Honor 10], Huawei = bad
[12:22] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> Dont know, it just says telegram. I only started on it a few weeks ago as a link from here when i was putting UT on the phone. Cant work out how to reply eitger.
[12:23] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> Sorry if that's a repeat. Last one stayed black
 @Graham Clark [Dont know, it just says telegram. I only started on it a few weeks ago as a link …], Use TELEports
 @Graham Clark [Dont know, it just says telegram. I only started on it a few weeks ago as a link …], To reply just swipe from right to left.
 It's standard gesture for UT Used for everything
[12:51] <ubptgbot> Batuhan Coşkun was added by: Batuhan Coşkun
[13:22] <ubptgbot> Ghanou Hidoud was added by: Ghanou Hidoud
 https://www.immowelt.de/expose/2pg9r43
[13:38] <ubptgbot> <Jason Ohlrogge> (Photo, 595x842) https://irc.ubports.com/AAjjulE0.png
 spam spam spam egg sausage and spam
 https://www.silicon.fr/5g-bt-ubuntu-openstack-258943.html/amp
 spam?
 the last message?
[15:01] <Fuseteam> irc side its still visible :p
 I removed the spam on TG
 Fuseteam, you can't delete messages on IRC
 @UniversalSuperBox [Fuseteam, you can't delete messages on IRC], There are reasons for not to like IRC  nowadays ^^
 Question: if I wanted to bring inside my app the information of which UT global theme (e.g. SuruDark) is the current one, how am I supposed to do it? Via DBus? If so, is there an example of how to do that? Thanks
[15:34] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> @malditobastardo [To reply just swipe from right to left.], Doh, i only found the delete side. Thanks.
 @mattbel10 Try this:
 Fwd from dohbee: `Theme.name` from importing `Ubuntu.Components` will give you what theme is used by uitk
 @imraniqbal [Theme.name from importing Ubuntu.Components will give you what theme is used by …], really? that simple? I just try and revert :)
 @mattbel10 [really? that simple? I just try and revert :)], I haven't tried it myself so let us know how it works out for you.
 @imraniqbal [I haven't tried it myself so let us know how it works out for you.], it works like a charm! Thank you :)
 @mattbel10 [it works like a charm! Thank you :)], I was just the messenger (as you can see from the forwarded message).
 Good to know, by the way.
 @imraniqbal [I was just the messenger (as you can see from the forwarded message).], oooh aahhahhah Rodney as usual, thanks to him also (you did a good messenger job BTW 😝)
 You're welcome.
 @fredldotme [I removed the spam on TG], the silicon dot fr link? i still see it. not sure if it's spam or just posting in the wrong place since it's a) off topic and b) in french
 @dohbee [the silicon dot fr link? i still see it. not sure if it's spam or just posting i …], Oh that one. I believe it's just in the wrong group, not necessarily spam.
 @labibme [https://www.silicon.fr/5g-bt-ubuntu-openstack-258943.html/amp], please keep to on topic (ubports and ubuntu touch) posts in here, and keep them in english. random links with no context is not helpful. thanks. :)
 @TartanSpartan [Seperately from my above questions (please do answer them, they pertain to a muc …], I'm still hoping for some advice on this issue.
[16:44] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> So is teleports just a newer version of telegram?
 @Graham Clark [So is teleports just a newer version of telegram?], TELEports is the latest UT native Telegram client coded using Telegram's recently updated API - and features much faster loading and smoother scrolling than the old Telegram app.  It also allows editing which the old app couldn't do.
 @Graham Clark [So is teleports just a newer version of telegram?], TELEports is still missing some features but these are being worked on now.
 @TartanSpartan [I'm still hoping for some advice on this issue.], where are you running the installation from?
 the error is plainly printed in the log, btw
 Libertine.
 [Edit] Libertine, via terminal.
 The error is plainly printed yes but that doesn't lead to a solution in this case despite diligent research.
 @TartanSpartan [The error is plainly printed yes but that doesn't lead to a solution in this cas …], the problem is likely that `/run/user/32011/confined/com.ubuntu.terminal/` is not bind mounted inside the proot in this case, and so you get the error from `mktemp`
 Ah, hmmm. I disregarded that, I thought it was of no consequence from previous experience installing packages.
[17:03] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @UniversalSuperBox [Could be the rare thing where wireless communications lock the device. Try reboo …], Things aren't working any better today. WiFi connectivity is barely there. Morph browser will show the progress bar for just a second showing it's trying to load a page, but it immediately brings up the Network Error page, "It ap
[17:03] <ubptgbot> pears you are having trouble viewing [web page attempted]. Error: net=ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED. WiFI settings show Connected. Teleports connects well enough to refresh the chat most recent message preview, but locks up and won't let me select a chat. Scopes scrolling is jerky, so we are at the same status I posted yesterday concerning this last rc updat
[17:03] <ubptgbot> e - poor connectivity and serious lag. Is there a fix I can try, or should I change channel to revert to an earlier UT version?
[17:03] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> (Nexus 5)
[17:04] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @UniversalSuperBox [Could be the rare thing where wireless communications lock the device. Try reboo …], [Edit] Things aren't working any better today. WiFi connectivity is barely there. Morph browser will show the progress bar for just a second showing it's trying to load a page, but it immediately brings up the Network Error page,
[17:04] <ubptgbot>  "It appears you are having trouble viewing [web page attempted]. Error: net=ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED. WiFI settings show Connected. Teleports connects well enough to refresh the chat most recent message previews but locks up and won't let me select a chat. Scopes scrolling is jerky, so we are at the same status I posted yesterday concerning this last r
[17:04] <ubptgbot> c update - poor connectivity and serious lag. Is there a fix I can try, or should I change channel to revert to an earlier UT version?
 What is using all the CPU and causing it to disconnect and reconnect quickly? (network changed)
 @John (Marlin) [Things aren't working any better today. WiFi connectivity is barely there. Morph …], adb/ssh in and check `top` to see if something is using all CPU? if apps scope scrolling is jerky, and you're getting network changed errors, it sounds like maybe something is gone whacky with networkmanager
 Why is it that most packages seem to install fine without that bind mount, and yet Libre Office refused on the upgrade to 6.2?
 Different packaging
 OIC.
 So, the command to make the bind should be `libertine-container-manager configure -i CONTAINER-IDENTIFIER -b add -p /run/user/32011/confined/com.ubuntu.terminal/`, am I right?
 @TartanSpartan [So, the command to make the bind should be libertine-container-manager configure …], i think it won't work because it's not in the phablet home
 Hmmm.
[17:13] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [adb/ssh in and check top to see if something is using all CPU? if apps scope scr …], Thanks. Here's the output of _top_ … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/n6cwCqK6ZD/
 @John (Marlin) [Thanks. Here's the output of _top_ … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/n6cwCqK6ZD/], did you reflash the anbox kernel after upgrading?
[17:14] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Yes
 not sure what `03mmsproxy` is, but it seems to be your problem
[17:14] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Or maybe no. Maybe I did it after changing to rc channel, but not after yesterday's update.
[17:15] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Let me refresh it now.
 @dohbee [i think it won't work because it's not in the phablet home], You're right:
 `ERROR: configure():  Cannot mount /run/user/32011/confined/com.ubuntu/terminal, mount path must be in /home/phablet or /media/phablet.`
 @UniversalSuperBox [Fuseteam, you can't delete messages on IRC], makes sense :3
 So what's the next step?
 @TartanSpartan [So what's the next step?], tried adb/ssh to run `libertine-container-manager` with?
 I'm doing that just now in fact. ADB. But that's when the error arose.
 are you running `apt-get` in a root shell inside the container, or are you running `libertine-container-manager install-package` in the host?
 The latter.
[17:30] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [did you reflash the anbox kernel after upgrading?], Okay! That did the trick! At idle most CPU processes are under 2%. I saw nearly 6% once. Browser is working, lag is gone. Embarrassing how stupid mistakes can cause such a panic. It ate 2/3 of my battery in an hour too. I was afraid my battery went bad!
 so anbox was eating the cpu......
 Should i do a root shell, instead?
 probably as apt requires root
[17:32] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [so anbox was eating the cpu......], Seems like. The rc update this time was only about 100mb, so I'm not sure what it replaced and what it did to the old anbox install.
 @TartanSpartan [I'm doing that just now in fact. ADB. But that's when the error arose.], the same error happened from adb? the terminal app dir in the error makes no sense then
 @Fuseteam [probably as apt requires root], it's already running as "root" in this case
 ah hmm
 @dohbee [the same error happened from adb? the terminal app dir in the error makes no sen …], In truth, I haven't tried the installation from ADB yet. I've only tried the bind mount so far. But I'll run the installation now.
 right the bind mount limitation is in libertine, not where you're running it from
 Quite, I just thought I'd test your thought that it wouldn't work because it has to be `media` or `home`.
 @Fuseteam [so anbox was eating the cpu......], Anbox is a battery eater
 and now i know why 😋 cpu yumyum
[18:26] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @malditobastardo [Anbox is a battery eater], I don't know what it didn't like. Before the new rc update I got 34 hours up time on one charge, though only a few hours sot.
 did the anbox apps work?
 as ota updates does break anbox currently
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <T F> Did Ubuntu touch support the thx hd2 at one point?
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <T F> *htc hd2
 not afaik
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <T F> Ok thx
 you can check halium if its a pip?
[19:14] <ubptgbot> <T F> Do u know where
[19:14] <ubptgbot> <T F> All I see is current supported devices
 @Fuseteam [you can check halium if its a pip?], No one knows what pip means. :P
 true xD
 @T F [Do u know where], https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement
 pip is port in progress btw
[19:20] <ubptgbot> <T F> Oh thanks
[19:22] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [did the anbox apps work?], I think so, but I just did a quick check. Settings for sure because I wanted to see if the battery stats would tell me anything about my battery drain. So many apps don't work in Anbox anyway.
[19:23] <Fuseteam> hmm i see
 @UniversalSuperBox [No one knows what pip means. :P], i was wondering what python had to do with it
 @TartanSpartan [In truth, I haven't tried the installation from ADB yet. I've only tried the bin …], That worked! But Libertine still shows some weird behaviour whereby if you don't close certain flavours of Libre Office programs (Calc, Draw etc) just right, it seemingly won't open again apart from via the terminal. Anyone know of a
[19:24] <ubptgbot>  fix?
 @dohbee [i was wondering what python had to do with it], 😂😂😂
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/1Xa794z0.png
 ?
[21:11] <ubptgbot> mlaarebi was added by: mlaarebi
 Hi … Can you please, add support for the old phones ditched by the big companies like Samsung. … A lot of users may be ready to move to ubuntu touch after their phones stopped receiving security updates. … And can you please add support for infinix phones too!? 😁😁 I have one that i really want to try ubuntu touch on it.
 providing support for new devices (or old ones) is hard and requires a lot of effort. most people porting Ubuntu Touch to smartphones do so voluntarily in their spare time.
 @fredldotme [providing support for new devices (or old ones) is hard and requires a lot of ef …], Thank you 😔😔
 @mlaarebi [Hi … Can you please, add support for the old phones ditched by the big companies …], you can help make this happen quicker by doing any of the steps described in these docs:  start here - http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html … and http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 and unfortunately a lot of manufacturers don't release their kernel/vendor trees, and don't allow unlocking bootloaders, so supporting every device is not possible
[21:29] <ubptgbot> <Batuhan Coşkun> www.pardus.org.tr
 @Batuhan Coşkun [www.pardus.org.tr], @fredldotme @UniversalSuperBox @advocatux @mariogrip @wayneoutthere spam?
 @Batuhan Coşkun [www.pardus.org.tr], please do not paste off topic or random links in here. thanks
[21:36] <ubptgbot> <Batuhan Coşkun> Can you tell me about Ubuntu OS? … Do you have Google Play Store support?
 Ubuntu is different from Android in that its UI provides a feature called convergence, which allows your device to turn into a full-blown desktop with typical windows. Ubuntu Touch does not have the Google Play Store though.
 [Edit] Ubuntu is different from Android in that its UI provides a feature called Convergence, which allows your device to turn into a full-blown desktop with typical windows. Ubuntu Touch does not have the Google Play Store though.
 @Batuhan Coşkun [Can you tell me about Ubuntu OS? … Do you have Google Play Store support?], UT is the OS to use if you want to a mobile system that gives you functionality while also being able to stop using Google services completely.
[21:49] <ubptgbot> <Batuhan Coşkun> Can I see the app store owned by Ubuntu?
[21:50] <ubptgbot> <Batuhan Coşkun> [Edit] Can I see the app store owned by Ubuntu OS?
 @Batuhan Coşkun [Can I see the app store owned by Ubuntu OS?], What you refer to as Ubuntu OS is Ubuntu Touch, Ubuntu the Desktop OS is made by Canonical. But you can access the phone and tablet stores here: https://open-store.io
 if you are attached to specific apps then UT will disappoint you - but if you are open to alternatives that can do the same functions then UT can provide a good open source privacy honoring option
 [Edit] if you are attached to specific apps then UT will disappoint you - but if you are open to using alternatives that can do the same functions then UT can provide a good open source privacy honoring option