 @dohbee [?], ohw nothing just showing how a 'long' message is rendered on the otherside :p
 @TartanSpartan's message was a single word too long xD
[03:34] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> How can I use hifi in MEIZU pro 5
 no need to keep posting the same question, if someone knows the answer or understands your question they will respond
 @Cheen Sun [How can I use hifi in MEIZU pro 5], I am able to play 24bit 96kHz FLAC files via  the core Music app on my Meizu Pro 5.  I am not sure if that answers your question though.
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 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0v3YgKJU.webp
 @Tygerpro [<reply to media>], Hey!
[09:30] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> @TotalSonic [I am able to play 24bit 96kHz FLAC files via  the core Music app on my Meizu Pro …], I mean if I installed Ubuntu Touch on my pro 5, how can I use hi-fi? Is it opened default?
[10:44] <ubptgbot> * absdroid
 What is hi-fi?
[11:12] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @malditobastardo [What is hi-fi?], The term hi-fi means High Fidelity. It was coined early in the period of improving audio quality for home stereo systems. Today primarily audiophiles are interested in such high end equipment. As suggested by Steven, FLAC (lossless) audio files are desired rather than common formats such as mp3.
[11:12] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> The return to vinyl LPs is also part of this.
 Yeah I know what is
 But I don't get his questions
[11:13] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Maybe he mispoke and wanted wifi.
 Yes. Most likely
 But who knows!!
[11:18] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> An eternal mystery!
 we could maybe make a pulse setting that tweaks the profile to play higher rate,
[15:16] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> No no no
[15:16] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> Hi-fi
 @Cheen Sun [Hi-fi], What is hi-fi
[15:17] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> Another audio channel
 How do you use it?
[15:18] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> Independent chips
[15:19] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> In Android I can choose which audio-card I want
[15:21] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> https://www.meizu.com/en/products/pro5/hifi.html
[15:21] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> I can't explain by my bad English
 Sounds like that's just the audio output
 And audio output works on Ubuntu Touch
 But at the same time, since you haven't had an answer from anyone else I suppose it's a "Maybe"
 I guess as long as hi-fi audio formats are playing in UT then that's good
 not sure if the DAC matters though...they say HTC 10 has a good one
[15:23] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> I think there is two audio-card in phone
 @Cheen Sun [I think there is two audio-card in phone], I don't think there is - just a single DAC capable of outputting up to 24bit 192kHz
[15:31] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> In Android I feel better than Ubuntu
[15:32] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> Maybe it's just a illusion
 Hi-resolution files can be played with the  core Music app with no problem.  The real question is whether the drivers and/or  Pulse audio is sending out at full resolution or if it is being downsampled first.  That I haven't tested.
[15:35] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> Are any Chinese there😂
[15:37] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @UniversalSuperBox [Sounds like that's just the audio output], I agree. It looks like they just enhanced the standard audio output.
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I had an Asus Zenpad that had DTS audio. Nice, but just outputting to the headphone jack as normal.
[15:43] <ubptgbot> <Cheen Sun> Thanks
[15:57] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> You're welcome!
 @TotalSonic [Hi-resolution files can be played with the  core Music app with no problem.  The …], i believe pulse does something to it
 @TotalSonic [Hi-resolution files can be played with the  core Music app with no problem.  The …], We should test this
 ill research, maybe be as easy as changing the pulse profile file
 as a side note the eq plugin is installed, we could get a equlizer if someone knows how to edit the file, or perhaps making some profiles
 Any chance to implement an UI ?
 What bothers me more is the volume setting specially when plug in headphones etc. Its always so loud that kills my ears
 The loudness message doesn't help with it
 you can change what level that alerts you at
 i might be able to add that to uvolman
 That would be great
 :)
 was trying to add balance, but is a lot harder than i thought
 @Cheen Sun [Are any Chinese there😂], https://t.me/UBports_Chinese
 oh you're already in there i guess
 @UniversalSuperBox [Sounds like that's just the audio output], it's alternate settings for audio output i guess. and we don't have UI to configure that properly in UT yet
 oh, that page shows a 5 pin headset, wonder if that works...
 @mateosalta [oh, that page shows a 5 pin headset, wonder if that works...], i presume it works if you have one, as that's probably handled in driver/firmware. but we are lacking some things in UT to be able to output correct signals from pulseaudio perhaps
 we also don't have working playback controls on headsets, i think
[16:28] <ubptgbot> aurnytoraink was added by: aurnytoraink
 yeah, volume might work
 Hey guys, I want to serouisly discuss about something important. Do you consider the nexus 7 more as a phone or a tablet ? For my case more like a phone. So this why I prefer to use it in portrait mode. But the problem is that the UBports team considers her as a tablet because we can not make call with it. But in every day use, more
[16:33] <ubptgbot> people like it in portrait than landscape. … So I'm getting very frustrating when I boot up my nexus, and been forced to turn it because the lock screen is in landscape only and  doesn't allow rotation.
 That a stupid thing for me that the lock screen can NOT be rotated with a tablet.
 I mean, I can understand for a phone because 100% people uses it in portrait mode
 But on a tablet it depends.
 Also, considering I have an iPad which I can unlock him in all rotation, I don't see why I'm forced to change the position, and then change again
 Also, when booted up, the nexus 7 goes landscape mode, then after unlocked her, goes portrait
 All this rotation give me a headache 😂
 Yes and me
 [Edit] Yes me to
 To me the bigger problem with my Nexus 7 2013 LTE (deb) is that bluetooth and camera both do not work.  I don't know whether those are problems with the wifi version (flo) though.
 [Edit] Hey guys, I want to serouisly discuss about something important. Do you consider the nexus 7 more as a phone or a tablet ? For my case more like a phone. So this why I prefer to use it in portrait mode. But the problem is that the UBports team considers her as a tablet because we can not make call with it and so consider her i
[16:39] <ubptgbot> n landscape mode. But in every day use, more people like it in portrait than landscape. … So I'm getting very frustrating when I boot up my nexus, and been forced to turn it because the lock screen is in landscape only and  doesn't allow rotation.
 I use my Nexus 7 in both portrait and landscape though
 I have a flo and deb, and yes camera + bluetooth big problem
 @TotalSonic [To me the bigger problem with my Nexus 7 2013 LTE (deb) is that bluetooth and ca …], I have a flo version, and the bluetooth is working (with a keyboard) but camera sucks really
 @fredldotme [Ubuntu is different from Android in that its UI provides a feature called Conver …], Tell me more about that convergence
 @fredldotme [What you refer to as Ubuntu OS is Ubuntu Touch, Ubuntu the Desktop OS is made by …], What you called Linux is in fact gnu Linux
 @fredldotme [What you refer to as Ubuntu OS is Ubuntu Touch, Ubuntu the Desktop OS is made by …], What you refer to Linux is in fact gnu Linux
 @TotalSonic Sconio For the camera, I already opened an issue on github but never solved … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1174
 @aurnytoraink [I have a flo version, and the bluetooth is working (with a keyboard) but camera …], yeah - bluetooth is a way bigger priority to me than the camera.
 @aurnytoraink [@TotalSonic Sconio For the camera, I already opened an issue on github but never …], there's an open issue about lock screen rotation too. perhaps you want to investigate and work on making a pull request.
 @marissaChan [Tell me more about that convergence], What would you like to know about it?
 What is it and how does it work and how can i use it?
 @marissaChan [What is it and how does it work and how can i use it?], https://ubports.com/devices/nexus5-convergence
 @marissaChan [What is it and how does it work and how can i use it?], convergence is having the same experience and apps across a wide range of devices, and being able to use devices in different modes when they can support it
[17:06] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @mateosalta [oh, that page shows a 5 pin headset, wonder if that works...], That's for balanced audio - Left x 2, Right x 2, plus Ground. That phone supports balanced and unbalanced audio, so the circuitry has to recognize the type of headphone plug inserted and change the signal pin assignments accordingly.
[17:17] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @mateosalta [oh, that page shows a 5 pin headset, wonder if that works...], [Edit] That's for balanced audio - Left x 2, Right x 2, plus Ground. That phone supports balanced and unbalanced audio, so the circuitry has to recognize the type of headphone plug inserted and change the signal pin assignments accordingly. (4 pin = Left, Ri
[17:17] <ubptgbot> ght, Ground, and Mic)
 @aurnytoraink [All this rotation give me a headache 😂], me too, there is a open bug for it
 but since the lockscreen depends on a flag for which orentation, you can only have it one way or another
 @aurnytoraink [All this rotation give me a headache 😂], if you want all the time portrait you can change, let me find where that is
 what happend with this? https://twitter.com/Mariogrip/status/987788101387997185
[18:08] <ubptgbot> ErBiffi was added by: ErBiffi
[18:11] <ubptgbot> NoNonMettoUnUsername was added by: NoNonMettoUnUsername
 @HenryOne [what happend with this? https://twitter.com/Mariogrip/status/987788101387997185], Ubuntu Touch went to a 16.04 Xenial base last year (up from the previous now unsupported 15.04).  Current plans are for UT to stay on Xenial for the time being (it is getting upstream support until 2021) and then likely  it will jump to a 20.04
[18:32] <ubptgbot>  LTS base.  The big chore in this is changing from upstart to systemd.
 @TotalSonic [Ubuntu Touch went to a 16.04 Xenial base last year (up from the previous now uns …], that was a teaser about OnePlus 6 port. nothing to do with which ubuntu version it's on :P
 @dohbee [that was a teaser about OnePlus 6 port. nothing to do with which ubuntu version …], oh - whoops.
 but, it's in roughly the same spot as all the other advanced halium ports; a bit stuck at the moment
 @dohbee [that was a teaser about OnePlus 6 port. nothing to do with which ubuntu version …], I guess it hit the barrier that all the Halium ports hit in the past year - audio, calling, camera, sensors.  Seems some of the audio compatibility problems might have been solved recently though.  The progress that the Sony Xperia X port is ma
[18:35] <ubptgbot> king is heartening to see for one.
 @TotalSonic [I guess it hit the barrier that all the Halium ports hit in the past year - audi …], well i think the main barrier has been "more important things"
 (both personally and with UT)
 @dohbee [well i think the main barrier has been "more important things"], but given that every UT Halium port project for the past year + has hit similar barriers is telling that there needed to be some fixes for primary issues made before real progress can be made.  I was reading in a blog somewhere recently that there had been a brea
[18:39] <ubptgbot> kthrough made recently with getting audio support in Halium going - can't remember what precisely it was.
 @TotalSonic [but given that every UT Halium port project for the past year + has hit similar …], i don't think audio in halium itself is really an issue (since well, halium is only the android parts, packaged up in a container thing, to make it usable by multilpe "distros").
 there were some issues with hardware access from UT, as we were previously stuck on an older libhybris, but that's been upgraded now
 @dohbee [there were some issues with hardware access from UT, as we were previously stuck …], that might have been what I was reading on - but I believe the barrier in support was fixed via some pulseaudio upgrades
 there are also some issues still with UT rootfs on halium afaik
 again - I am just recalling from foggy memory
 New TELEports release out!
 @imraniqbal [https://ubports.com/devices/nexus5-convergence], does that also work with the 1+1?
 @marissaChan [does that also work with the 1+1?], I believe it does, if you have one running UT you can always try it
 @marissaChan [does that also work with the 1+1?], OP1 does not have wired video output. only Miracast, and the performance is not good for interactive use, really
 I stand corrected
 @Flohack [New TELEports release out!], Thanks a lot !
 @marissaChan [does that also work with the 1+1?], You can send the OnePlus One to an external display wirelessly via "Miracast" - you will need a Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter connected to the display you wish to send to.  Then in System Settings go to "Brightness & Display", check "External display" on and then choose the MS Disp
[20:36] <ubptgbot> lay adapter from the list that will come up under "Wireless display"
 @marissaChan [does that also work with the 1+1?], also you will need to connect to a Bluetooth keyboard.  You can use the phone itself as a track pad once it is connected to an external display - but this tends to be clumsy - so it also good to connect a Bluetooth mouse, or keyboard with built in trackpad, as well.
 @Flohack [New TELEports release out!], thank you!  Great to see the development on this really picking up some pace.
 It does, but main reason was until now that I was on parental leave with some time left hehe
 So I hope we can keep the pace but it might get a bit slower again
 Did a great job so far!
 @TotalSonic [also you will need to connect to a Bluetooth keyboard.  You can use the phone it …], usb keyboard/mouse will work better when using miracast
 @dohbee [usb keyboard/mouse will work better when using miracast], is that an available option for OnePlus One, Meizu Pro 5 or Fairphone 2?
 @mateosalta [yeah, volume might work], confirmed
 @TotalSonic [is that an available option for OnePlus One, Meizu Pro 5 or Fairphone 2?], it's an option on any device which supports USB OTG, which afaik, all of those do
 how long should flashing recovery and boot images take? 🤔
 @dohbee [it's an option on any device which supports USB OTG, which afaik, all of those d …], huh - will have to try that out
[21:21] <ubptgbot> <Azniel Basri> https://youtu.be/jFAPWTAjoQA
 @Azniel Basri [https://youtu.be/jFAPWTAjoQA], OFF topic
 @Azniel Basri [https://youtu.be/jFAPWTAjoQA], please delete this off topic post. thanks. posting random links with no context, and off topic content, is not appreciated, and can be viewed as spamming
 We un po' di gnocca qua?
 @NoNonMettoUnUsername [We un po' di gnocca qua?], please do not forward non-english private messages from other people to here.
 well or private messages at all, really
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