[10:39] <dbenson> Hi all, why does removing update-manager also remove 700MB+ of system packages and how can I safely remove just update-manager and update-notifier?
[12:36] <veremitz> wow .. I would suspect that isn't a -studio specific question and you might get better/faster support from the normal ubuntu support channel?
[12:40] <studiobot> <rittmang> Hi, I recently upgraded my Ubuntu 18.10 (vanilla), hoping to get 19.04 vanilla, however, somehow, Ubuntu Studio based on Ubuntu 19.04 got installed, although I'm pretty sure I haven't messed around in the repository lists. Is there a specific reason for this behavior? Can I go back to vanilla?
[13:50] <westerwest> hey, my clean install of ubuntu studio fails to start jack, when I try it with qjackctl "cannot connect to the server"
[14:21] <Eickmeyer> westerwest: Why are you using qjackctl to start Jack? And what version?
[14:38] <westerwest> yes, probably the latest supplied? Ive just installed ubuntu studio
[14:40] <Eickmeyer> westerwest: That means nothing. 18.04 is still valid, as is 19.04. I need to know which one. Open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a" and that should tell you.
[14:41] <westerwest> oh, 19.04
[14:43] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-controls | westerwest: Use this to start Jack, it's much more user-friendly
[14:43] <ubottu> westerwest: Use this to start Jack, it's much more user-friendly: Ubuntu Studio Controls is the application through which audio is configured in Ubuntu Studio. It configures Jack, sets the CPU governor, and ensures the user has realtime audio permissions. For more info, see !jack and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls
[14:45] <westerwest> Eickmeyer: oh, I haven't noticed it can start jack, cool!
[14:46] <Eickmeyer> westerwest: It's in the release notes that it's the preferred method to start Jack.
[14:55] <westerwest> yeah but jack doesnt seem to be started tho
[14:56] <westerwest> I still cant start jack
[15:09] <westerwest> I will try backported version of ubuntustudio controlls
[15:48] <studiobot> <Eickmeyer> @rittmang [Hi, I recently upgraded my Ubuntu 18.10 (vanilla), hoping to get 19.04 vanilla, …], That's strange, and might mean you added Ubuntu Studio at some point via installing ubuntustudio-desktop, which isn't supported for those wishing to stay vanilla. The proper method is via ubuntustudio-installer to install the components, not t
[15:48] <studiobot> he entire desktop. Either way, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3" should get you back to the GDM boot manager, and clicking on the gear icon while signing-in will let you choose the desktop environment. Also, remember, Ubuntu Studio IS Ubuntu, so there's virtually no difference operationally.
[16:15] <studiobot> <rittmang> @Eickmeyer [That's strange, and might mean you added Ubuntu Studio at some point via install …], Yes, it just happened plus I got no info on any other forum, hence thought of putting it here. Thanks!
[17:30] <zurn> hi everyone, I'm having a hardware issue that only occurs with my Ubuntu Studio machine... when I playback from my IO device, some weird digital distortion pops up every minute or so... I'm really not sure if this is a question that is Ubuntu Studio related, but it doesn't happen when I use the device with other computers, so maybe someone on here
[17:30] <zurn> can at least point me in the right direction
[17:30] <zurn> Here's a sample of what it sounds like https://clyp.it/lenaagxi
[17:31] <zurn> Here's a detailed post I made on the Ubuntu forums... https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2424963
[17:32] <Eickmeyer> zurn: Ubuntu forums are depricated. Please use https://askubuntu.com
[17:32] <zurn> Eickmeyer, that's already very helpful information, thank you
[17:32] <Eickmeyer> Also, I don't have a clue as to what's going on. If OvenWerks is available, he might be able to walk you through it. But, I'm unavailable right now, sorry.
[17:33] <zurn> That's alright, I'm not going anywhere anytime soon, in the meantime I'll post the question on askubuntu
[20:04] <r3l04d3d> signal or privatewave
[20:45] <OvenWerks> zurn: I know very little about firewire devices/concerns. I do know that some people have had issues with the alsa FW drivers as opposed to the ffado drives.
[20:47] <OvenWerks> zurn: That does sound like two sampling frequencies mashing in and out. If using pulse maybe try turning the profile for any internal audio device to "Off" and see if that helps. If you are using 44k1 maybe try 48k or the reverse.
[20:49] <r3l04d3d> music is an art
[20:49] <r3l04d3d> I think I found out what all of to s is
[20:50] <r3l04d3d> the audio quality is degrading
[20:50] <r3l04d3d> it was built on my computer and became digital sound
[20:51] <r3l04d3d> then they stopped all analouge link
[20:51] <r3l04d3d> it went all digital
[20:51] <r3l04d3d> became out of sync
[22:21] <zurn> OvenWerks: I've tried the pulse suggestion you made, it hasn't made the sound in at least 10 minutes - this might do it! Is there any equivalent for that in JACK?
[22:37] <OvenWerks> zurn: if you use jack with the pulse->jack bridge, then the same fix will effect jack as well. If use ubuntustudio-controls to start jack, it will already fix pulse to work with jack.
[22:39] <OvenWerks> zurn: the problem is that pulse takes it's sync from the first alsa device it finds (normally the internal audio) and uses it for sync. The pulse -> jack bridge binds jack to pulse in a closer way than it should (because the bridge was never properly finished) and so removing phyical devices from pulse allows pulse to use jack for it's sync
[22:40] <OvenWerks> If pulse has two sources of sync they will clash even if they work at the same rate
[23:16] <zurn> OvenWerks That's incredible information... I've been trying to get to the bottom of this on my own for some time. Thanks again (you've helped me in the past w/other issues).