[13:31] <SpecialK|Canon> where can I see logs for CI runs for MPs to launchpad itself?
[13:35] <tomwardill> http://lpbuildbot.canonical.com/
[13:35] <SpecialK|Canon> ah, thank you!
[13:41] <SpecialK|Canon> and thanks to Wikipedia for helping me learn to pronounce sluagh
[13:46] <SpecialK|Canon> oh hey it looks like modern buildbot has dropped the "slave" terminology, yay
[13:48] <tomwardill> yeah, that was underway a few years back when I was working with buildbot
[13:48]  * tomwardill still really likes buildbot
[13:59] <SpecialK|Canon> I confess I thought buildbot was no longer maintained, and was pleasantly surprised
[13:59] <SpecialK|Canon> I gather there was talk of possibly moving to Jenkins - I'm guessing that was to leverage existing infra rather than any dissatisfaction with buildbot?
[14:00] <tomwardill> I'd assume so, but I don't know for sure
[14:02] <SpecialK|Canon> So I can totally get why, but I'm still mildly entertained by the existence of https://github.com/buildbot/buildbot/blob/master/.circleci/config.yml
[14:03] <tomwardill> hah
[14:05] <SpecialK|Canon> Hm, as far as I can tell, lpbb doesn't build MPs against LP - I'm guessing partly due to config and/or security model
[14:05] <tomwardill> speaking beyond what I know for sure, but probably mostly due to legacy
[14:06] <tomwardill> that and the test suite is > 4 hours
[14:06] <SpecialK|Canon> ah
[14:08] <SpecialK|Canon> so it's a combo of assess-by-eye, trust author to run tests themselves, handle issues retroactively, I guess
[14:10] <tomwardill> it runs the tests during landing, and will reject the merge
[14:10] <tomwardill> via the pqm bot
[14:12] <SpecialK|Canon> ahh sorry right, because it's not an actual "merge", it's lp-land?
[14:13]  * SpecialK|Canon was just reminded of https://dev.launchpad.net/LandingChanges
[15:52] <SpecialK|Canon> tomwardill: do you run tests locally, use https://dev.launchpad.net/EC2Test, or something else altogether?
[15:52] <tomwardill> SpecialK|Canon: I run them locally via `bin/test -vvct <test file>`
[15:52] <tomwardill> I don't think EC2Test is a thing anymore
[15:53] <tomwardill> I've never run the full suite
[15:53] <SpecialK|Canon> tomwardill: bin/test not testr...? (cf. https://dev.launchpad.net/Testing)
[15:54] <tomwardill> never used testr
[15:54] <SpecialK|Canon> ah
[15:54] <SpecialK|Canon> ok, thanks!
[15:54] <tomwardill> oh hey, TIL LP_PERSISTENT_TEST_SERVICES
[15:54] <tomwardill> I wondered if something like that might exist