[13:31] where can I see logs for CI runs for MPs to launchpad itself? [13:35] http://lpbuildbot.canonical.com/ [13:35] ah, thank you! [13:41] and thanks to Wikipedia for helping me learn to pronounce sluagh [13:46] oh hey it looks like modern buildbot has dropped the "slave" terminology, yay [13:48] yeah, that was underway a few years back when I was working with buildbot [13:48] * tomwardill still really likes buildbot [13:59] I confess I thought buildbot was no longer maintained, and was pleasantly surprised [13:59] I gather there was talk of possibly moving to Jenkins - I'm guessing that was to leverage existing infra rather than any dissatisfaction with buildbot? [14:00] I'd assume so, but I don't know for sure [14:02] So I can totally get why, but I'm still mildly entertained by the existence of https://github.com/buildbot/buildbot/blob/master/.circleci/config.yml [14:03] hah [14:05] Hm, as far as I can tell, lpbb doesn't build MPs against LP - I'm guessing partly due to config and/or security model [14:05] speaking beyond what I know for sure, but probably mostly due to legacy [14:06] that and the test suite is > 4 hours [14:06] ah [14:08] so it's a combo of assess-by-eye, trust author to run tests themselves, handle issues retroactively, I guess [14:10] it runs the tests during landing, and will reject the merge [14:10] via the pqm bot [14:12] ahh sorry right, because it's not an actual "merge", it's lp-land? [14:13] * SpecialK|Canon was just reminded of https://dev.launchpad.net/LandingChanges [15:52] tomwardill: do you run tests locally, use https://dev.launchpad.net/EC2Test, or something else altogether? [15:52] SpecialK|Canon: I run them locally via `bin/test -vvct ` [15:52] I don't think EC2Test is a thing anymore [15:53] I've never run the full suite [15:53] tomwardill: bin/test not testr...? (cf. https://dev.launchpad.net/Testing) [15:54] never used testr [15:54] ah [15:54] ok, thanks! [15:54] oh hey, TIL LP_PERSISTENT_TEST_SERVICES [15:54] I wondered if something like that might exist