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guivercjust noted (forum question), https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.1/3.1.9/sddm_configuration.html?highlight=sddm refers to /etc/sddm.conf, but my 19.10 box has /etc/init/sddm.conf ?? lynorian 00:47
lynorianI don't know about 19.10 as currently for 19.04 so might need to get added to phab00:48
guivercack.00:51
wxlguiverc: lynorian: i see both actually01:41
wxli've never heard the init one referenced, though01:41
lynorianwhich takes precedence?01:41
wxlcuriously the manpage doesn't even mention init01:42
lynorianI think that is what I used01:42
wxlsddm installs it01:43
lubot<tsimonq2> `apt-file show sddm | grep "sddm.conf`01:43
lubot<tsimonq2> Or packages.ubuntu.com01:43
lubot<tsimonq2> CLI <301:43
wxlstrangely it doesn't provide /etc/sddm.conf01:44
guiverc:)  thanks folks01:44
lubot<tsimonq2> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=sddm.conf&mode=exactfilename&suite=disco&arch=any01:44
wxland apt-file doesn't know where it comes from01:44
wxlwth01:44
lubot<tsimonq2> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=sddm.conf&mode=exactfilename&suite=bionic&arch=any01:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Okay wsr.01:44
lubot<tsimonq2> *wat01:45
wxlhttps://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/disco/en/man1/sddm.1.html#files01:45
lubot<tsimonq2> Check the XDG properties of the sddm code for recent changes01:45
lubot<tsimonq2> 1. Find where the code is that reads the config file.01:45
lubot<tsimonq2> 2. History of that file, git blame01:45
lubot<tsimonq2> You can do this all via GitHub01:45
lubot<tsimonq2> Or CLI <301:46
lubot<tsimonq2> I say XDG as the "Kleenex" of config files because it usually points me in the right direction01:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Obviously season to taste01:47
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#210901:47
wxlhttps://github.com/sddm/sddm/blob/cf4c3caf058ea81d0e61c2087493623faac56a3f/src/common/ConfigReader.cpp#L14401:47
wxlnope, no init01:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Next step, Debian packaging01:48
lubot<tsimonq2> https://tracker.debian.org/sddm01:48
lubot<tsimonq2> Top left corner, option to browse Git repo in a browser01:48
wxli see they removed /etc/sddm.conf so that one could use /usr/share/doc/sddm/sddm.conf and build from there01:50
wxli.e. it ships with default upstream settings01:50
wxlso that explains why /etc/sddm.conf doesn't come from anywhere01:50
wxlstrange that it's there.... but whatever01:50
wxl.install doesn't show init https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/3rdparty/sddm/blob/master/debian/sddm.install01:51
wxl@RikMills: you know why sddm is installing /etc/init/sddm.conf?01:52
wxlone thing i should say is that based on the code it should be ignored01:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh nice, full upstart compatibility01:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Well, what I can say is, I do think defaults are loaded into /etc/sddm.conf and SDDM just reads from that01:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Otherwise Cala autologin wouldn't work01:54
wxlstill, how it gets there is unknown XD01:54
lubot<tsimonq2> Agreed01:54
lubot<tsimonq2> Next, as a spot check, it wouldn't hurt to check the Ubuntu delta01:54
lubot<tsimonq2> Just In Case.01:54
wxlthere's nothing obvious01:55
lubot<tsimonq2> That's just what I personally do, it's optional :P01:55
wxloh01:55
wxlhey01:55
wxlinit IS just an upstart script01:55
wxlso yeah, we can just ignore that01:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#211001:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#211101:58
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#211202:00
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#211302:01
lubot<HMollerCl> this override is driving me crazy, I have one for autotest which works ok, but the one for desktop-command-not-in-package does not.02:02
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#211402:05
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [this override is driving me crazy, I have one for autotest which works ok, but t …], Warning vs info?02:05
lubot<tsimonq2> I forget if that's a part of it02:06
lubot<HMollerCl> info: … I: lubuntu-update-notifier source: unused-override desktop-command-not-in-package02:06
lubot<HMollerCl> warning: … W: lubuntu-update-notifier: desktop-command-not-in-package usr/share/applications/upg-apply.desktop lxqt-sudo02:06
lubot<tsimonq2> What does the Lintian override say specifically?02:06
lubot<HMollerCl> lubuntu-update-notifier source: desktop-command-not-in-package02:07
lubot<HMollerCl> that's the line02:07
lubot<tsimonq2> 1. Source vs binary package override02:07
lubot<HMollerCl> the whole file: … # lxqt-sudo is used to run lubuntu-upgrader with admin privileges … # while lxqt-sudo isn't provided in this package we declare a dependency on it. … lubuntu-update-notifier source: desktop-command-not-in-package … # Whishlist … lubuntu-update-notifier source: testsuite-autopkgtest-missing02:07
lubot<tsimonq2> 2. lxqt-sudo at the end?02:07
lubot<tsimonq2> 3. s/whishlist/wishlist/ ;)02:08
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#211502:10
lubot<HMollerCl> lubuntu-update-notifier source: desktop-command-not-in-package /usr/share/applications/lupg-apply.desktop lxqt-sudo02:10
lubot<HMollerCl> I tried that befiore, will try w/o the .desktop02:11
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [I tried that befiore, will try w/o the .desktop], No, without the "source" :)02:13
lubot<HMollerCl> tried that to.02:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Hmmm02:14
lubot<HMollerCl> And with binary instead of source.02:14
lubot<tsimonq2> This is a fun one02:14
lubot<HMollerCl> maybe there is a bug02:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Try committing your Lintian overrides file and I'll run it by some peers of mine02:15
lubot<teward001> here's a question02:17
lubot<teward001> what's the *Exact* lintian error output02:17
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [here's a question], no02:17
lubot<tsimonq2> *shot*02:17
lubot<teward001> shush simon02:17
lubot<teward001> *shoots Simon with a taser several hundred times*02:17
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [Try committing your Lintian overrides file and I'll run it by some peers of mine], Thanks, I will tell you when ready, I used this to be more general, but it does not work https://sources.debian.org/src/bleachbit/2.2-3/debian/lintian-overrides/02:17
lubot<teward001> where's the lubuntu-update-notifier packaging again?02:18
lubot<teward001> @HMollerCl @tsimonq202:18
lubot<HMollerCl> in a ppa from myself02:18
lubot<teward001> no i mean the source code02:18
lubot<teward001> i.e. VCS02:18
lubot<teward001> generally not your specific overrides file02:18
lubot<HMollerCl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-update-notifier/repository/master/02:19
lubot<tsimonq2> ^ please commit it, even if it's a WIP02:19
lubot<teward001> because depending on the format of the package you MIGHT need a binary.lintian-overrides file in debian/(02:19
lubot<HMollerCl> that?02:19
lubot<teward001> for the binary name02:19
lubot<teward001> yep02:19
lubot<teward001> @HMollerCl try this...02:19
lubot<teward001> make a file named lubuntu-update-notifier.lintian-overrides02:19
lubot<teward001> put `lubuntu-update-notifier binary: desktop-command-not-in-package` in the overrides file02:19
lubot<teward001> rerun lintian02:20
lubot<teward001> see if that works02:20
lubot<teward001> (that's the binary-specific override I"ve seen)02:20
lubot<teward001> ASSUMING that the lintian trigger is on the binary not the source02:20
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks, will try. Sounds plausible02:20
lubot<teward001> but again, I'd need to see the exact lintian run you're working with02:20
lubot<HMollerCl> N: Processing binary package lubuntu-update-notifier (version 0.1, arch all) ... … W: lubuntu-update-notifier: desktop-command-not-in-package usr/share/applications/upg-apply.desktop lxqt-sudo02:20
lubot<HMollerCl> that's why I think can be binary02:21
lubot<teward001> OK so you need the binary level trigger *on* the binary package itself, hence the lubuntu-update-notifier.lintian-overrides attempt02:21
lubot<teward001> if *that* fixes it your problem is solved02:21
lubot<teward001> i have several such overrides in some packages I have02:21
lubot<teward001> for built binaries even though they're `arch: all`02:21
lubot<HMollerCl> I put it in debian or in debian/source ?02:21
lubot<teward001> (in my own repos)02:21
lubot<teward001> in debian/ directly02:21
lubot<teward001> same place you would put the postinst, etc. scripts for the binary specifically02:22
lubot<teward001> note i'm pulling this approach from several exemplars I pulled of this explicitly being overridden02:22
lubot<teward001> from Debain's list 😐02:22
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [from Debain's list 😐], What's a Debain02:23
lubot<tsimonq2> :P02:23
lubot<teward001> shush02:23
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#211602:33
lubot<HMollerCl> @teward00102:36
lubot<teward001> did it work?02:36
lubot<HMollerCl> yesss02:36
lubot<teward001> you're welcome.02:37
lubot<HMollerCl> but, it isn't documented...02:37
lubot<HMollerCl> at least not here https://lintian.debian.org/manual/section-2.4.html02:37
lubot<teward001> yeah, lintian overrides aren't nicely documented02:37
lubot<teward001> it's crap I learned from #debian-devel02:37
lubot<teward001> back when I lurked there02:37
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [yeah, lintian overrides aren't nicely documented], Time to document them, chop chop02:37
wxlspeaking of which02:37
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 it needs to be written at the Debian level02:37
lubot<tsimonq2> *dumps a gallon of coffee on teward*02:37
lubot<teward001> GO GO GO GO GO02:37
lubot<teward001> THAT"S YOUR JOB NOOB02:38
wxlhow does one best deal with script-with-language-extension?02:38
lubot<teward001> *shoves @tsimonq2 off the cliff into the Debian sea*02:38
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> how does one best deal with script-with-language-extension?], Remove the extension and add a shebang02:38
wxlyou're saying patch it02:38
lubot<tsimonq2> Where are you seeing this?02:39
wxlthat compton fork02:39
lubot<tsimonq2> The answer I gave was generic, would help to get the exact Lintian output02:39
wxlW: compton: script-with-language-extension usr/bin/compton-convgen.py  02:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Heh, yeah, my advice still applies02:40
wxlbut you do mean patching, right?02:41
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah02:41
lubot<tsimonq2> quilt add the new file name and the existing file name, mv old new, quilt refresh02:41
wxland stuff like binary-without-manpage and desktop-entry-lacks-keywords-entry might be things to leave alone and not override so we don't forget to fix them right?02:41
lubot<tsimonq2> Right02:41
lubot<tsimonq2> Those are things to tell upstream to look at02:42
wxlright right02:42
lubot<tsimonq2> Or we ship ourselves02:42
wxltestsuite-autopkgtest-missing too i'm sure02:42
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah02:42
wxldid you see what i said earlier about copyright?02:42
lubot<teward001> testsuite-autopkgtest-missing also isn't a critical error i think, it's somewhat hand-waveable to some extent.02:42
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> did you see what i said earlier about copyright?], Unless the file is very very substantially rewritten, keep the old notice there02:43
lubot<tsimonq2> And thus the new license02:43
lubot<tsimonq2> You can say something like "modifications licensed under X by Foo Bar"02:43
wxlwell a general goal of the project is to refactor everything02:43
lubot<tsimonq2> Season to taste02:43
wxlthe project = the new fork02:43
wxlso chances are we're seeing some big rewrites02:43
lubot<tsimonq2> Right, so determine whether most of the file is rewritten. Just because it's their goal doesn't mean they can automatically assume full copyright, unless they do in fact rewrite it02:44
wxlWHOA02:44
wxlexample: src/compton.c 6727 sloc (old) v 1993 sloc (new)02:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Ultimately it's a judgment call. Worst case scenario, it wouldn't hurt to check with someone on the AA team02:45
lubot<HMollerCl> AmericanAirlines?02:46
lubot<tsimonq2> Archive Administrators :)02:46
lubot<tsimonq2> Archive Admins are the people with the ultimate responsibility of accepting new packages into the archive, verifying copyright, and making sure the archive stays relatively sane02:47
wxlthere's a contributors list, so i guess i need to mess with that02:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Release Team is similar although they don't process NEW queues and their focus is towards the release02:47
lubot<teward001> and AA tries to help newish sponsors catch mistakes they make in reviews ;)02:47
wxloh jeeeez it seems that the preferred license for new files is mpl, too02:47
wxlomg this is a freaking mess02:47
lubot<tsimonq2> I'll openly say that I think copyright in packaging is the single worst thing you have to do, hands down02:48
lubot<tsimonq2> Even AAs hate it 😆02:48
wxlHAH02:48
wxlCompton is distributed under MIT license, as far as I (richardgv) know. See LICENSE for more info.02:48
wxlthat's from the "original" compton02:48
lubot<tsimonq2> Heh02:49
wxlcuz it's a fork of xcompmgr.dana02:49
wxlitself a fork of xcompmgr02:49
lubot<tsimonq2> Good luck wxl :P02:49
wxlomg kill me freaking now02:49
lubot<tsimonq2> Most time I've spent on copyright for a package is probably... 6 or 7 hours?02:50
wxlhmmmmm it does use spdx02:50
wxlso should i make myself the maintainer?02:51
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh and don't forget to make sure each license is DFSG compatible02:51
lubot<tsimonq2> Nope, Lubuntu Developers <lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>02:52
lubot<tsimonq2> Unless of course you think this should go into Debian02:52
lubot<tsimonq2> In which case, yes02:52
wxloh right well i guess that's what i meant.. should we change it02:52
wxli think it should go into debian02:52
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIER5b9bdef0b1f2: lxqt-sudo lintian override] Hans P Möller <hmoller@uc.cl> committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIER5b9bdef0b1f202:52
wxlcompton proper is deeeeeeeeeeeeeead02:52
lubot<tsimonq2> Okay, so set yourself as the maintainer and set me as an "Uploader"02:52
lubot<tsimonq2> Please use my Debian address though02:53
wxlthat's a valid control key?02:53
wxlvim's not highlighting it right02:54
lubot<tsimonq2> Er, Uploaders02:54
wxlthx02:54
lubot<teward001> *salts @tsimonq2*02:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Cleanup for lubuntu-update-notifier prior to uploading] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#211802:54
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: Please file an ITS bug for compton: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch05.en.html#ps-guidelines02:57
lubot<tsimonq2> I can help if needed02:57
wxlkk02:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Obviously we can upload this to Ubuntu first if we want this in before Feature Freeze, and then do a no-change sync before the release02:57
wxli need ppl testing first tho!02:57
lubot<tsimonq2> True02:58
lubot<tsimonq2> Up to you if you want this in for 19.1002:58
wxlif worse comes to worst i'm gonna just push it i think02:58
lubot<tsimonq2> Otherwise we can totally get this done completely in Debian and spend more time testing02:58
lubot<tsimonq2> If you can successfully do this ITS, sort through existing compton bugs in Debian, and give me something sponsorable with no major issues, I'll advocate for you becoming a Debian Maintainer no questions asked03:00
wxlhuh03:00
lubot<tsimonq2> Debian Maintainer is basically PPU but for Debian :P03:00
lubot<tsimonq2> And DDs get to grant access03:01
wxli'm surprised it's that easy03:01
lubot<tsimonq2> We've already keysigned03:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Debian Maintainer is a lot more handwavey than Debian Developer, believe me03:01
lubot<tsimonq2> I trust your packaging ability enough to be able to trust you with an advocation if you can nail these Debian processes03:02
wxlcool03:02
wxlaw hell03:03
wxlrenaming the file makes the build fail03:03
lubot<tsimonq2> Let me guess, dh_missing/dh_install?03:03
wxli'll also mention this dude is all about the fancy. they're using meson to build03:03
lubot<tsimonq2> Oooo03:03
wxli was *SHOCKED* dh didn't blow up about it03:04
lubot<tsimonq2> So what's the build error? XD03:04
wxlmeson.build:69:0: ERROR: File bin/compton-convgen.py does not exist.03:04
wxli guess i can patch the build file, too03:05
wxlyay that was easy03:06
wxl@tsimonq2: any luck with any of these? https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReviewTools03:07
wxli'm not sure wh the manpages don't build03:08
lubot<tsimonq2> They're good if the licenses are standard03:08
lubot<tsimonq2> Of course, you have to check that out03:08
wxlboth the fork and regular old compton use asciidoc03:09
lubot<tsimonq2> The license?03:09
wxlhm?03:09
lubot<tsimonq2> How is asciidoc relevant?03:09
wxloh i'm sorry i changed subjects on you03:10
wxlmanpages aren't building03:10
lubot<tsimonq2> First instinct is to add an override in debian/rules03:10
lubot<tsimonq2> Check out the debhelper scripts03:10
lubot<tsimonq2> It's just a makefile after all03:11
wxlhm i don't think they're actually building03:12
lubot<tsimonq2> What is being built by default, and is there an additional build flag you can add?03:13
wxlit's just using `dh $@` ultimately03:13
wxlOH03:14
wxlmeson.build sets it to false by efault03:14
wxl(meson_options.txt i mean but i'm talking to myself)03:16
lubot<tsimonq2> Don't stop talking to yourself, you're obviously onto something here :)03:20
lubot<tsimonq2> @kc2bez go ahead and merge/upload/tag03:31
wxlthere's an echo in here03:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh?03:31
wxli said that in there :)03:32
lubot<tsimonq2> ? 😂03:32
lubot<kc2bez> I will get it tomorrow if that is ok?03:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Sounds good03:33
wxlhttps://phab.lubuntu.me/D33#72903:33
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Clean up Calamares settings.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D33#72903:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Before Thursday though please ;)03:33
lubot<kc2bez> Yes absolutely!03:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Cool cool03:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Nice work!03:33
lubot<kc2bez> Thanks. It seemed to spiderweb :)03:34
wxl@tsimonq2: regarding https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30 will doing the `update` take care of importing what's in the archive or how does that work?04:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Revision] added screengrab: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D3004:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfa1adac2a421: Replace comma with ;] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfa1adac2a42104:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf2992151d593: Reword to make command line main version as the GUI way not installed anymore] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf2992151d59304:29
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#211904:58
guiverc19.10 daily has textual add wireless connection again?  is/was this expected?05:33
wxl@tsimonq2: cuz if you mean manually forcing an update on lubuntu-meta it was last updated an hour ago and it seems to be set to update every ~5h.07:07
wxl@tsimonq2: and if you don't mean that but you mean running ./update i'm also baffled because i ran it before i did my last commit.07:07
wxl@tsimonq2: the only difference that exists is a slight difference in the target distribution (it's not UNRELEASED), which i remember.. that's likely my bad. hans' diff fixes that, actually.07:09
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: the only difference that exists is a slight difference in the t …], Bingo. Don't do that. XD10:26
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T113: figure out fcitx language support] Noumeno (Roberto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T113#212113:46
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: I didn't understand your comment on D1714:47
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Should I create a new diff?14:47
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I have a copy of the .xml file.14:47
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, ack on testing the lxqt-globalkeys from ppa. Tonight.14:48
wxl[m]@The_LoudSpeaker that should work. New repo, copy xml over, dch15:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D3419:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Edited shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D3419:35
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: when will be screengrab in the iso? We will need to change the sortcut for it.19:39
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker: eoan, not UNRELEASED19:49
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> oops!19:49
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 1 min.19:49
wxl@HMollerCl: i'll make sure it's in tomorrow's19:50
lubot<aptghetto> And version19:51
wxloh yeah19:51
wxlthat too19:51
wxlshould be 19.10.419:52
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> D34 you are talking about?19:52
wxlyep19:52
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> done.19:53
wxlyou mispelled shortcuts :)19:54
wxland your email is wrong19:54
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> *facepalms*19:55
wxlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand i did like your explanation of the shortcut changes19:55
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> is there sarcasm hidden here?19:56
wxlno19:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Actually just checked, A star for window tilling is missing19:58
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> how do I change that?19:59
wxlall i see is "Modified shortsuts."19:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> dch changes only debian changelog. I want to change the summary of D34.19:59
wxlyou can edit that in the interface20:00
wxlor `arc` has some way to do that20:00
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> all i see is "Modified shortsuts."], "verbose is good. unnecessary is not." - wxl. Circa, 201920:00
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> you can edit that in the interface], ack.20:01
wxlright, though you could say something like:20:01
wxl * Modified shortcuts to not use Super key so as not to conflict with Lubuntu's use of it in lxqt-globalkeys.20:02
wxl * Removed shortcuts that could be handled by lxqt-globalkeys.20:02
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker ["verbose is good. unnecessary is not." - wxl. Circa, 2019], tsimonq2 -vvvvvvvvvv &20:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I wrote simillar thing in D18. Both are connected so I thought only one was enough?20:02
wxl * Removed non-functional shortcuts that were commented out.20:02
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 [tsimonq2 -vvvvvvvvvv &], `strace $(pidof tsimonq2)`  :P20:03
wxlis D18 lubuntu-default-settings?20:04
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [sudo strace -p $(pidof tsimonq2)  :P], Are you the guy that sudo failures go to? :P20:04
wxloh and one more bullet point:20:04
wxl * Removed shortcuts not relevant to LXQt releases.20:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> oops!20:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> just sent it in.20:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> want me do it again?20:05
wxlyou can update it20:05
wxlso four bullet points, basically.20:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> shit email id again wronmg20:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> so four bullet points, basically.], haa. doing again.20:05
wxlprobably because you didn't follow the packaging requirements20:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> probably because you didn't follow the packaging requirements], I did.20:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> will do again.20:06
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [shit email id again wronmg], !language20:06
lubot<tsimonq2> XD20:06
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 [Are you the guy that sudo failures go to? :P], sometimes.20:06
lubot<teward001> other times they go to "That Guy Down Below in Hell"20:07
lubot<teward001> ;)20:07
lubot<teward001> and other times to Santa 😜20:07
lubot<lynorian> is the other screenshot tool making it in?20:07
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> is D18 lubuntu-default-settings?], D18 is lxqt-globalkeys20:07
lubot<lynorian> Because I will need to rewrite screenshot and stuff20:07
lubot<lynorian> also lubuntu-default settings might need a new keybind for new screenshot tool for printscreen to work with that20:08
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker and that's why whatever you put there doesn't count for lubuntu-default-settings20:08
wxlre: email20:09
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> re: email], Haa this time I double checked. email is correct.20:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL754c466d33e9: Add enjoy new upgrade to last sentence] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL754c466d33e920:10
wxlFor Debian tools:20:10
wxl    Add the following to $HOME/.bashrc:20:10
wxl        export DEBFULLNAME="your full name"20:10
wxl        export DEBMAIL="your email address"20:10
wxl        export EMAIL="your email address"20:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> ack.20:11
lubot<HMollerCl> @lynorian [is the other screenshot tool making it in?], That's what wxl is compromising for tomorrow20:15
lubot<HMollerCl> @lynorian [also lubuntu-default settings might need a new keybind for new screenshot tool f …], Yes20:15
wxlor rather lxqt-globalkeys20:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> or rather lxqt-globalkeys], +120:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL194d8395ee1e: Add which tab to change to update] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL194d8395ee1e20:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian [is the other screenshot tool making it in?], Which task?20:38
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL598a70d904fa: Reword close bullet] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL598a70d904fa21:03
kc2bezwxl: @tsimonq2 what are your thoughts on the lintian issues in D33 ?21:04
wxlkc2bez: def. need a python3 depend21:08
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Which task?], this task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T8421:08
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Change default screenshot utility to screengrab from lximage-qt.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T8421:08
lubot<HMollerCl> and this diff https://phab.lubuntu.me/D3021:08
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Revision] added screengrab: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D3021:08
kc2bezRight, but what about the other items?21:09
lubot<HMollerCl> which items?21:09
wxlnot-binnmuable-all-depends-any isn't in documented tags????21:09
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [and this diff https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30], Thanks! Subscribing now.21:10
kc2bezSorry Hans that was for wxl21:10
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- Error: D30], is an invalid task reference.21:10
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez jaja, ok21:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> oops! I am already subscribed.21:11
wxlclosest i can find is https://lintian.debian.org/tags/maybe-not-arch-all-binnmuable.html21:11
wxlbut that's experimental/pedantic, not an error21:11
wxlignore testsuite-autopkgtest-missing21:11
wxllike just leave it21:11
wxlsame with binary-without-manpage21:12
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl https://lintian.debian.org/tags/not-binnmuable-all-depends-any.html @kc2bez21:12
wxloh i was looking at emitted tags bag21:13
wxls/bag/bah/21:13
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez @teward001 gave me the power to for binary override21:13
wxllooks like any and all are right there21:16
wxllooks like >= is what you need instead of =21:17
wxlDepends: calamares-settings-ubuntu-common (>= ${binary:Version}),21:18
wxlthat21:18
kc2bezAh, gotcha. 21:18
lubot<tsimonq2> Whoops.21:18
wxlif only our resident debian developer had done the work on that, they would have caught the problem21:18
wxlalso why does our desktop entry have a shebang? that seems weird21:19
kc2bezI can pull a page out of @teward001 's book and blame  @tsimonq2 ;)21:19
lubot<tsimonq2> XD21:19
kc2bezXD21:19
wxlyou can override desktop-command-not-in-package21:20
kc2bezWell, our desktop entry is kind of weird. 21:21
lubot<tsimonq2> Hacky, yes21:21
kc2bezEffective though21:21
wxluses-dpkg-database-directly: ask the author of calamares-logs-helper whose documentation is most certainly lacking..21:23
wxlextended-description-is-probably-too-short21:23
wxlyou can figure that out21:23
wxlexecutable-not-elf-or-script: tsimonq2 probably chmod +x'd21:24
wxland that covers everything21:27
wxlany questions?21:27
kc2bezProbably but that will do for now. 21:29
wxlwhren you figure out that weird script, you can write a manpage for it if you're really cool XD21:33
wxli about pulled my hair out last night trying to get asciidoc to behave21:33
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> you can override desktop-command-not-in-package], @kc2bez that need @teward001 trick:  In /debian create a file called <package>.linitian-overrides21:36
lubot<HMollerCl> look at https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-update-notifier/browse/master/debian/lubuntu-update-notifier.lintian-overrides21:37
lubot<kc2bez> Thanks @HMollerCl I will work on it in a bit.21:37
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl Have you looked into whether we already have a GUI to do update notifications for release upgrades or if we can integrate that into your new GUI, if necessary?23:27
lubot<tsimonq2> I just want to make it look smooth23:27
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [@HMollerCl Have you looked into whether we already have a GUI to do update notif …], I have heard there is one, but haven't tried23:33
lubot<HMollerCl> Release-upgrader-qt apparently is his name23:33
lubot<tsimonq2> ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt iirc?23:34
lubot<tsimonq2> It's really really genetic23:34
lubot<tsimonq2> *generic23:34
lubot<tsimonq2> It just shows a monospace font copy of the release notes that are on the Ubuntu wiki23:34
lubot<tsimonq2> I definitely think we can improve this experience23:34
lubot<tsimonq2> Is this something you could look into before 20.04?23:35
lubot<tsimonq2> It would run the same do-release-upgrade etc. scripts in the background as the normal one does, because there are special hooks and flags they stuff in there to make upgrades smooth and we can't discard those, but at least try to style it and make it our release notes etc.23:37
lubot<HMollerCl> Mmm, I'm not sure23:41
lubot<HMollerCl> At least this year I don't have time for it. Not sure if the first 3 months of the next one I will23:41
lubot<tsimonq2> That's okay23:42

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