[00:47] <guiverc> just noted (forum question), https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.1/3.1.9/sddm_configuration.html?highlight=sddm refers to /etc/sddm.conf, but my 19.10 box has /etc/init/sddm.conf ?? lynorian 
[00:48] <lynorian> I don't know about 19.10 as currently for 19.04 so might need to get added to phab
[00:51] <guiverc> ack.
[01:41] <wxl> guiverc: lynorian: i see both actually
[01:41] <wxl> i've never heard the init one referenced, though
[01:41] <lynorian> which takes precedence?
[01:42] <wxl> curiously the manpage doesn't even mention init
[01:42] <lynorian> I think that is what I used
[01:43] <wxl> sddm installs it
 `apt-file show sddm | grep "sddm.conf`
 Or packages.ubuntu.com
 CLI <3
[01:44] <wxl> strangely it doesn't provide /etc/sddm.conf
[01:44] <guiverc> :)  thanks folks
 https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=sddm.conf&mode=exactfilename&suite=disco&arch=any
[01:44] <wxl> and apt-file doesn't know where it comes from
[01:44] <wxl> wth
 https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=sddm.conf&mode=exactfilename&suite=bionic&arch=any
 Okay wsr.
 *wat
[01:45] <wxl> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/disco/en/man1/sddm.1.html#files
 Check the XDG properties of the sddm code for recent changes
 1. Find where the code is that reads the config file.
 2. History of that file, git blame
 You can do this all via GitHub
 Or CLI <3
 I say XDG as the "Kleenex" of config files because it usually points me in the right direction
 Obviously season to taste
[01:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2109
[01:47] <wxl> https://github.com/sddm/sddm/blob/cf4c3caf058ea81d0e61c2087493623faac56a3f/src/common/ConfigReader.cpp#L144
[01:47] <wxl> nope, no init
 Next step, Debian packaging
 https://tracker.debian.org/sddm
 Top left corner, option to browse Git repo in a browser
[01:50] <wxl> i see they removed /etc/sddm.conf so that one could use /usr/share/doc/sddm/sddm.conf and build from there
[01:50] <wxl> i.e. it ships with default upstream settings
[01:50] <wxl> so that explains why /etc/sddm.conf doesn't come from anywhere
[01:50] <wxl> strange that it's there.... but whatever
[01:51] <wxl> .install doesn't show init https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/3rdparty/sddm/blob/master/debian/sddm.install
[01:52] <wxl> @RikMills: you know why sddm is installing /etc/init/sddm.conf?
[01:53] <wxl> one thing i should say is that based on the code it should be ignored
 Oh nice, full upstart compatibility
 Well, what I can say is, I do think defaults are loaded into /etc/sddm.conf and SDDM just reads from that
 Otherwise Cala autologin wouldn't work
[01:54] <wxl> still, how it gets there is unknown XD
 Agreed
 Next, as a spot check, it wouldn't hurt to check the Ubuntu delta
 Just In Case.
[01:55] <wxl> there's nothing obvious
 That's just what I personally do, it's optional :P
[01:55] <wxl> oh
[01:55] <wxl> hey
[01:55] <wxl> init IS just an upstart script
[01:55] <wxl> so yeah, we can just ignore that
[01:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2110
[01:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2111
[02:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2112
[02:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2113
 this override is driving me crazy, I have one for autotest which works ok, but the one for desktop-command-not-in-package does not.
[02:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2114
 @HMollerCl [this override is driving me crazy, I have one for autotest which works ok, but t …], Warning vs info?
 I forget if that's a part of it
 info: … I: lubuntu-update-notifier source: unused-override desktop-command-not-in-package
 warning: … W: lubuntu-update-notifier: desktop-command-not-in-package usr/share/applications/upg-apply.desktop lxqt-sudo
 What does the Lintian override say specifically?
 lubuntu-update-notifier source: desktop-command-not-in-package
 that's the line
 1. Source vs binary package override
 the whole file: … # lxqt-sudo is used to run lubuntu-upgrader with admin privileges … # while lxqt-sudo isn't provided in this package we declare a dependency on it. … lubuntu-update-notifier source: desktop-command-not-in-package … # Whishlist … lubuntu-update-notifier source: testsuite-autopkgtest-missing
 2. lxqt-sudo at the end?
 3. s/whishlist/wishlist/ ;)
[02:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2115
 lubuntu-update-notifier source: desktop-command-not-in-package /usr/share/applications/lupg-apply.desktop lxqt-sudo
 I tried that befiore, will try w/o the .desktop
 @HMollerCl [I tried that befiore, will try w/o the .desktop], No, without the "source" :)
 tried that to.
 Hmmm
 And with binary instead of source.
 This is a fun one
 maybe there is a bug
 Try committing your Lintian overrides file and I'll run it by some peers of mine
 here's a question
 what's the *Exact* lintian error output
 @teward001 [here's a question], no
 *shot*
 shush simon
 *shoots Simon with a taser several hundred times*
 @tsimonq2 [Try committing your Lintian overrides file and I'll run it by some peers of mine], Thanks, I will tell you when ready, I used this to be more general, but it does not work https://sources.debian.org/src/bleachbit/2.2-3/debian/lintian-overrides/
 where's the lubuntu-update-notifier packaging again?
 @HMollerCl @tsimonq2
 in a ppa from myself
 no i mean the source code
 i.e. VCS
 generally not your specific overrides file
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-update-notifier/repository/master/
 ^ please commit it, even if it's a WIP
 because depending on the format of the package you MIGHT need a binary.lintian-overrides file in debian/(
 that?
 for the binary name
 yep
 @HMollerCl try this...
 make a file named lubuntu-update-notifier.lintian-overrides
 put `lubuntu-update-notifier binary: desktop-command-not-in-package` in the overrides file
 rerun lintian
 see if that works
 (that's the binary-specific override I"ve seen)
 ASSUMING that the lintian trigger is on the binary not the source
 thanks, will try. Sounds plausible
 but again, I'd need to see the exact lintian run you're working with
 N: Processing binary package lubuntu-update-notifier (version 0.1, arch all) ... … W: lubuntu-update-notifier: desktop-command-not-in-package usr/share/applications/upg-apply.desktop lxqt-sudo
 that's why I think can be binary
 OK so you need the binary level trigger *on* the binary package itself, hence the lubuntu-update-notifier.lintian-overrides attempt
 if *that* fixes it your problem is solved
 i have several such overrides in some packages I have
 for built binaries even though they're `arch: all`
 I put it in debian or in debian/source ?
 (in my own repos)
 in debian/ directly
 same place you would put the postinst, etc. scripts for the binary specifically
 note i'm pulling this approach from several exemplars I pulled of this explicitly being overridden
 from Debain's list 😐
 @teward001 [from Debain's list 😐], What's a Debain
 :P
 shush
[02:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2116
 @teward001
 did it work?
 yesss
 you're welcome.
 but, it isn't documented...
 at least not here https://lintian.debian.org/manual/section-2.4.html
 yeah, lintian overrides aren't nicely documented
 it's crap I learned from #debian-devel
 back when I lurked there
 @teward001 [yeah, lintian overrides aren't nicely documented], Time to document them, chop chop
[02:37] <wxl> speaking of which
 @tsimonq2 it needs to be written at the Debian level
 *dumps a gallon of coffee on teward*
 GO GO GO GO GO
 THAT"S YOUR JOB NOOB
[02:38] <wxl> how does one best deal with script-with-language-extension?
 *shoves @tsimonq2 off the cliff into the Debian sea*
 @wxl [<wxl> how does one best deal with script-with-language-extension?], Remove the extension and add a shebang
[02:38] <wxl> you're saying patch it
 Where are you seeing this?
[02:39] <wxl> that compton fork
 The answer I gave was generic, would help to get the exact Lintian output
[02:39] <wxl> W: compton: script-with-language-extension usr/bin/compton-convgen.py  
 Heh, yeah, my advice still applies
[02:41] <wxl> but you do mean patching, right?
 Yeah
 quilt add the new file name and the existing file name, mv old new, quilt refresh
[02:41] <wxl> and stuff like binary-without-manpage and desktop-entry-lacks-keywords-entry might be things to leave alone and not override so we don't forget to fix them right?
 Right
 Those are things to tell upstream to look at
[02:42] <wxl> right right
 Or we ship ourselves
[02:42] <wxl> testsuite-autopkgtest-missing too i'm sure
 Yeah
[02:42] <wxl> did you see what i said earlier about copyright?
 testsuite-autopkgtest-missing also isn't a critical error i think, it's somewhat hand-waveable to some extent.
 @wxl [<wxl> did you see what i said earlier about copyright?], Unless the file is very very substantially rewritten, keep the old notice there
 And thus the new license
 You can say something like "modifications licensed under X by Foo Bar"
[02:43] <wxl> well a general goal of the project is to refactor everything
 Season to taste
[02:43] <wxl> the project = the new fork
[02:43] <wxl> so chances are we're seeing some big rewrites
 Right, so determine whether most of the file is rewritten. Just because it's their goal doesn't mean they can automatically assume full copyright, unless they do in fact rewrite it
[02:44] <wxl> WHOA
[02:44] <wxl> example: src/compton.c 6727 sloc (old) v 1993 sloc (new)
 Ultimately it's a judgment call. Worst case scenario, it wouldn't hurt to check with someone on the AA team
 AmericanAirlines?
 Archive Administrators :)
 Archive Admins are the people with the ultimate responsibility of accepting new packages into the archive, verifying copyright, and making sure the archive stays relatively sane
[02:47] <wxl> there's a contributors list, so i guess i need to mess with that
 Release Team is similar although they don't process NEW queues and their focus is towards the release
 and AA tries to help newish sponsors catch mistakes they make in reviews ;)
[02:47] <wxl> oh jeeeez it seems that the preferred license for new files is mpl, too
[02:47] <wxl> omg this is a freaking mess
 I'll openly say that I think copyright in packaging is the single worst thing you have to do, hands down
 Even AAs hate it 😆
[02:48] <wxl> HAH
[02:48] <wxl> Compton is distributed under MIT license, as far as I (richardgv) know. See LICENSE for more info.
[02:48] <wxl> that's from the "original" compton
 Heh
[02:49] <wxl> cuz it's a fork of xcompmgr.dana
[02:49] <wxl> itself a fork of xcompmgr
 Good luck wxl :P
[02:49] <wxl> omg kill me freaking now
 Most time I've spent on copyright for a package is probably... 6 or 7 hours?
[02:50] <wxl> hmmmmm it does use spdx
[02:51] <wxl> so should i make myself the maintainer?
 Oh and don't forget to make sure each license is DFSG compatible
 Nope, Lubuntu Developers <lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
 Unless of course you think this should go into Debian
 In which case, yes
[02:52] <wxl> oh right well i guess that's what i meant.. should we change it
[02:52] <wxl> i think it should go into debian
[02:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIER5b9bdef0b1f2: lxqt-sudo lintian override] Hans P Möller <hmoller@uc.cl> committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIER5b9bdef0b1f2
[02:52] <wxl> compton proper is deeeeeeeeeeeeeead
 Okay, so set yourself as the maintainer and set me as an "Uploader"
 Please use my Debian address though
[02:53] <wxl> that's a valid control key?
[02:54] <wxl> vim's not highlighting it right
 Er, Uploaders
[02:54] <wxl> thx
 *salts @tsimonq2*
[02:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Cleanup for lubuntu-update-notifier prior to uploading] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2118
 wxl: Please file an ITS bug for compton: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch05.en.html#ps-guidelines
 I can help if needed
[02:57] <wxl> kk
 Obviously we can upload this to Ubuntu first if we want this in before Feature Freeze, and then do a no-change sync before the release
[02:57] <wxl> i need ppl testing first tho!
 True
 Up to you if you want this in for 19.10
[02:58] <wxl> if worse comes to worst i'm gonna just push it i think
 Otherwise we can totally get this done completely in Debian and spend more time testing
 If you can successfully do this ITS, sort through existing compton bugs in Debian, and give me something sponsorable with no major issues, I'll advocate for you becoming a Debian Maintainer no questions asked
[03:00] <wxl> huh
 Debian Maintainer is basically PPU but for Debian :P
 And DDs get to grant access
[03:01] <wxl> i'm surprised it's that easy
 We've already keysigned
 Debian Maintainer is a lot more handwavey than Debian Developer, believe me
 I trust your packaging ability enough to be able to trust you with an advocation if you can nail these Debian processes
[03:02] <wxl> cool
[03:03] <wxl> aw hell
[03:03] <wxl> renaming the file makes the build fail
 Let me guess, dh_missing/dh_install?
[03:03] <wxl> i'll also mention this dude is all about the fancy. they're using meson to build
 Oooo
[03:04] <wxl> i was *SHOCKED* dh didn't blow up about it
 So what's the build error? XD
[03:04] <wxl> meson.build:69:0: ERROR: File bin/compton-convgen.py does not exist.
[03:05] <wxl> i guess i can patch the build file, too
[03:06] <wxl> yay that was easy
[03:07] <wxl> @tsimonq2: any luck with any of these? https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReviewTools
[03:08] <wxl> i'm not sure wh the manpages don't build
 They're good if the licenses are standard
 Of course, you have to check that out
[03:09] <wxl> both the fork and regular old compton use asciidoc
 The license?
[03:09] <wxl> hm?
 How is asciidoc relevant?
[03:10] <wxl> oh i'm sorry i changed subjects on you
[03:10] <wxl> manpages aren't building
 First instinct is to add an override in debian/rules
 Check out the debhelper scripts
 It's just a makefile after all
[03:12] <wxl> hm i don't think they're actually building
 What is being built by default, and is there an additional build flag you can add?
[03:13] <wxl> it's just using `dh $@` ultimately
[03:14] <wxl> OH
[03:14] <wxl> meson.build sets it to false by efault
[03:16] <wxl> (meson_options.txt i mean but i'm talking to myself)
 Don't stop talking to yourself, you're obviously onto something here :)
 @kc2bez go ahead and merge/upload/tag
[03:31] <wxl> there's an echo in here
 Oh?
[03:32] <wxl> i said that in there :)
 ? 😂
 I will get it tomorrow if that is ok?
 Sounds good
[03:33] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D33#729
[03:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Clean up Calamares settings.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D33#729
 Before Thursday though please ;)
 Yes absolutely!
 Cool cool
 Nice work!
 Thanks. It seemed to spiderweb :)
[04:19] <wxl> @tsimonq2: regarding https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30 will doing the `update` take care of importing what's in the archive or how does that work?
[04:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Revision] added screengrab: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30
[04:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfa1adac2a421: Replace comma with ;] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfa1adac2a421
[04:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf2992151d593: Reword to make command line main version as the GUI way not installed anymore] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf2992151d593
[04:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2119
[05:33] <guiverc> 19.10 daily has textual add wireless connection again?  is/was this expected?
[07:07] <wxl> @tsimonq2: cuz if you mean manually forcing an update on lubuntu-meta it was last updated an hour ago and it seems to be set to update every ~5h.
[07:07] <wxl> @tsimonq2: and if you don't mean that but you mean running ./update i'm also baffled because i ran it before i did my last commit.
[07:09] <wxl> @tsimonq2: the only difference that exists is a slight difference in the target distribution (it's not UNRELEASED), which i remember.. that's likely my bad. hans' diff fixes that, actually.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: the only difference that exists is a slight difference in the t …], Bingo. Don't do that. XD
[13:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T113: figure out fcitx language support] Noumeno (Roberto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T113#2121
 wxl: I didn't understand your comment on D17
 Should I create a new diff?
 I have a copy of the .xml file.
 Also, ack on testing the lxqt-globalkeys from ppa. Tonight.
[15:02] <wxl[m]> @The_LoudSpeaker that should work. New repo, copy xml over, dch
 wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D34
[19:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Edited shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D34
 wxl: when will be screengrab in the iso? We will need to change the sortcut for it.
[19:49] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: eoan, not UNRELEASED
 oops!
 1 min.
[19:50] <wxl> @HMollerCl: i'll make sure it's in tomorrow's
 And version
[19:51] <wxl> oh yeah
[19:51] <wxl> that too
[19:52] <wxl> should be 19.10.4
 D34 you are talking about?
[19:52] <wxl> yep
 done.
[19:54] <wxl> you mispelled shortcuts :)
[19:54] <wxl> and your email is wrong
 *facepalms*
[19:55] <wxl> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand i did like your explanation of the shortcut changes
 is there sarcasm hidden here?
[19:57] <wxl> no
 Actually just checked, A star for window tilling is missing
 how do I change that?
[19:59] <wxl> all i see is "Modified shortsuts."
 dch changes only debian changelog. I want to change the summary of D34.
[20:00] <wxl> you can edit that in the interface
[20:00] <wxl> or `arc` has some way to do that
 @wxl [<wxl> all i see is "Modified shortsuts."], "verbose is good. unnecessary is not." - wxl. Circa, 2019
 @wxl [<wxl> you can edit that in the interface], ack.
[20:01] <wxl> right, though you could say something like:
[20:02] <wxl>  * Modified shortcuts to not use Super key so as not to conflict with Lubuntu's use of it in lxqt-globalkeys.
[20:02] <wxl>  * Removed shortcuts that could be handled by lxqt-globalkeys.
 @The_LoudSpeaker ["verbose is good. unnecessary is not." - wxl. Circa, 2019], tsimonq2 -vvvvvvvvvv &
 I wrote simillar thing in D18. Both are connected so I thought only one was enough?
[20:02] <wxl>  * Removed non-functional shortcuts that were commented out.
 @tsimonq2 [tsimonq2 -vvvvvvvvvv &], `strace $(pidof tsimonq2)`  :P
[20:04] <wxl> is D18 lubuntu-default-settings?
 @teward001 [sudo strace -p $(pidof tsimonq2)  :P], Are you the guy that sudo failures go to? :P
[20:04] <wxl> oh and one more bullet point:
[20:04] <wxl>  * Removed shortcuts not relevant to LXQt releases.
 oops!
 just sent it in.
 want me do it again?
[20:05] <wxl> you can update it
[20:05] <wxl> so four bullet points, basically.
 shit email id again wronmg
 @wxl [<wxl> so four bullet points, basically.], haa. doing again.
[20:06] <wxl> probably because you didn't follow the packaging requirements
 @wxl [<wxl> probably because you didn't follow the packaging requirements], I did.
 will do again.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [shit email id again wronmg], !language
 XD
 @tsimonq2 [Are you the guy that sudo failures go to? :P], sometimes.
 other times they go to "That Guy Down Below in Hell"
 ;)
 and other times to Santa 😜
 is the other screenshot tool making it in?
 @wxl [<wxl> is D18 lubuntu-default-settings?], D18 is lxqt-globalkeys
 Because I will need to rewrite screenshot and stuff
 also lubuntu-default settings might need a new keybind for new screenshot tool for printscreen to work with that
[20:08] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker and that's why whatever you put there doesn't count for lubuntu-default-settings
[20:09] <wxl> re: email
 @wxl [<wxl> re: email], Haa this time I double checked. email is correct.
[20:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL754c466d33e9: Add enjoy new upgrade to last sentence] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL754c466d33e9
[20:10] <wxl> For Debian tools:
[20:10] <wxl>     Add the following to $HOME/.bashrc:
[20:10] <wxl>         export DEBFULLNAME="your full name"
[20:10] <wxl>         export DEBMAIL="your email address"
[20:10] <wxl>         export EMAIL="your email address"
 ack.
 @lynorian [is the other screenshot tool making it in?], That's what wxl is compromising for tomorrow
 @lynorian [also lubuntu-default settings might need a new keybind for new screenshot tool f …], Yes
[20:16] <wxl> or rather lxqt-globalkeys
 @wxl [<wxl> or rather lxqt-globalkeys], +1
[20:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL194d8395ee1e: Add which tab to change to update] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL194d8395ee1e
 @lynorian [is the other screenshot tool making it in?], Which task?
[21:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL598a70d904fa: Reword close bullet] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL598a70d904fa
[21:04] <kc2bez> wxl: @tsimonq2 what are your thoughts on the lintian issues in D33 ?
[21:08] <wxl> kc2bez: def. need a python3 depend
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Which task?], this task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T84
[21:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Change default screenshot utility to screengrab from lximage-qt.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T84
 and this diff https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30
[21:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Revision] added screengrab: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30
[21:09] <kc2bez> Right, but what about the other items?
 which items?
[21:09] <wxl> not-binnmuable-all-depends-any isn't in documented tags????
 @HMollerCl [and this diff https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30], Thanks! Subscribing now.
[21:10] <kc2bez> Sorry Hans that was for wxl
[21:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- Error: D30], is an invalid task reference.
 @kc2bez jaja, ok
 oops! I am already subscribed.
[21:11] <wxl> closest i can find is https://lintian.debian.org/tags/maybe-not-arch-all-binnmuable.html
[21:11] <wxl> but that's experimental/pedantic, not an error
[21:11] <wxl> ignore testsuite-autopkgtest-missing
[21:11] <wxl> like just leave it
[21:12] <wxl> same with binary-without-manpage
 wxl https://lintian.debian.org/tags/not-binnmuable-all-depends-any.html @kc2bez
[21:13] <wxl> oh i was looking at emitted tags bag
[21:13] <wxl> s/bag/bah/
 @kc2bez @teward001 gave me the power to for binary override
[21:16] <wxl> looks like any and all are right there
[21:17] <wxl> looks like >= is what you need instead of =
[21:18] <wxl> Depends: calamares-settings-ubuntu-common (>= ${binary:Version}),
[21:18] <wxl> that
[21:18] <kc2bez> Ah, gotcha. 
 Whoops.
[21:18] <wxl> if only our resident debian developer had done the work on that, they would have caught the problem
[21:19] <wxl> also why does our desktop entry have a shebang? that seems weird
[21:19] <kc2bez> I can pull a page out of @teward001 's book and blame  @tsimonq2 ;)
 XD
[21:19] <kc2bez> XD
[21:20] <wxl> you can override desktop-command-not-in-package
[21:21] <kc2bez> Well, our desktop entry is kind of weird. 
 Hacky, yes
[21:21] <kc2bez> Effective though
[21:23] <wxl> uses-dpkg-database-directly: ask the author of calamares-logs-helper whose documentation is most certainly lacking..
[21:23] <wxl> extended-description-is-probably-too-short
[21:23] <wxl> you can figure that out
[21:24] <wxl> executable-not-elf-or-script: tsimonq2 probably chmod +x'd
[21:27] <wxl> and that covers everything
[21:27] <wxl> any questions?
[21:29] <kc2bez> Probably but that will do for now. 
[21:33] <wxl> whren you figure out that weird script, you can write a manpage for it if you're really cool XD
[21:33] <wxl> i about pulled my hair out last night trying to get asciidoc to behave
 @wxl [<wxl> you can override desktop-command-not-in-package], @kc2bez that need @teward001 trick:  In /debian create a file called <package>.linitian-overrides
 look at https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-update-notifier/browse/master/debian/lubuntu-update-notifier.lintian-overrides
 Thanks @HMollerCl I will work on it in a bit.
 @HMollerCl Have you looked into whether we already have a GUI to do update notifications for release upgrades or if we can integrate that into your new GUI, if necessary?
 I just want to make it look smooth
 @tsimonq2 [@HMollerCl Have you looked into whether we already have a GUI to do update notif …], I have heard there is one, but haven't tried
 Release-upgrader-qt apparently is his name
 ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt iirc?
 It's really really genetic
 *generic
 It just shows a monospace font copy of the release notes that are on the Ubuntu wiki
 I definitely think we can improve this experience
 Is this something you could look into before 20.04?
 It would run the same do-release-upgrade etc. scripts in the background as the normal one does, because there are special hooks and flags they stuff in there to make upgrades smooth and we can't discard those, but at least try to style it and make it our release notes etc.
 Mmm, I'm not sure
 At least this year I don't have time for it. Not sure if the first 3 months of the next one I will
 That's okay