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lubuntuwhat is this?10:44
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lalitmeeHey guys, is binfmt_misc enabled by default in Lubuntu 18.04?10:58
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Guest52149y is everybody agents lubuntu?16:54
YADWHello! I'm trying to install Lubuntu 16.04 LTS on a very old machine (18.04+ results in a kernel panic).17:40
YADW I've succesfully installed the same version on several machines of seemingly the same lot, but this one in particular will show up a busybox shell whenever I try to run the installer or boot in the live OS.17:40
YADWAlso, the keyboard gets disconnected so I can't even use the shell.17:41
lubot<HMollerCl> YADW 16.04 reaced EOL and is no loner maintaimned. We can help you with the kernel panic in 18.04.18:05
YADWlubot according to https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle 16.04 shouldn't reach EOL before 2021, and according to https://today-date.com/ we currently are around 2019. I could ask Wolfram Alpha, but I think 2019 is a smaller number than 2021.18:12
YADWRough estimate, might need to check.18:13
lubot<aptghetto> The packages of Lubuntu are in universe, which is maintained by the community, not by Canonical. And Lubuntu supports LTS versions for 3 years.18:15
lubot<aptghetto> The 5 years are only for packages in the main repo.18:16
YADWBugger, I had already opened Wolfram Alpha. Now I'll need to close the tab.18:18
lubot<N0um3n0> @YADW [<YADW> lubot according to https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle 16.04 shouldn't …], https://lubuntu.me/xenial-released/18:53
vijuHello, lubuntu desktop doesn't fill the entire screen. It leaves some 2 inches of left screen. However the taskbar is fills the entire bottom space as usual.21:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> which version?21:19
vijuThis is how it looks https://i.postimg.cc/bN9CHnGj/Selection-003.png21:26
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> woah! wierd.21:27
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl: @kc2bez @HMollerCl @aptghetto any of you seeing this? ^^21:28
vijuSolved that. Thanks anyway21:34
wxlviju: first, i'll tell you what i tell everyone: don't bother with 18.04/lxde. come 2021, you'll be on lxqt anyways, so you might as well switch to lxqt now.21:34
wxlamong other reasons: if this is a bug in lxde, good luck seeing it get fixed. the upstream developers are not doing anything and haven't in a long time.21:35
vijuIs lxqt another desktop?21:36
wxlit's what lubuntu has been using since 18.1021:36
wxlbasically lxde developers left and created lxqt21:36
wxlit's built off a different toolkit, but is the same basic experience21:36
wxl..............except that it's constantly getting developed and improved21:36
vijuI am on 18.0421:36
wxlthat's what i'm saying: i'd advise against 18.04.21:37
vijuI upgrade every two years when new LTS version's launched21:37
wxlthe 18.04 -> 20.04 upgrade in lubuntu will not be supported. no lxde -> lxqt upgrade is.21:37
wxlthat said, like i said, now's a good time to jump onto the lxqt train.21:38
wxlregardless, i have never seen an issue like you're showing. does it persist across reboots?21:40
wxlwhat about all the different virtual desktops?21:42
wxlcan you DND things into that blank area?21:42
wxlwhat if you change the wallpaper?21:42
vijuI reinstalled and it fixed itself21:42
vijuEarlier the buttons were missing too. Don't know why21:43
vijumax/min/close21:43
wxlthis is a fresh install?21:44
vijuJust lubuntu, not the OS21:45
wxlhuh?21:45
wxlyou installed the metapackage?21:46
vijuI am not sure if I answered correctly. I meant I removed lubuntu and then reinstalled using sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop21:46
wxlwhat did you start with?21:48
vijuI am not sure what you mean by that.21:51
wxlwhat did you install to begin with?21:51
vijulubuntu desktop21:52
wxlin ubuntu? using the mini.iso? what?21:52
wxla standard lubuntu install?21:52
vijuubuntu first then I added different desktops - xfce/kubuntu/mate etc.21:53
wxlah yeah well that can be all sorts of messy21:53
vijukde used to freeze/crash I haven't completely removed because I am using certain other packages21:54
wxlwhat that sounds like to me is a lot of variables21:54
wxlwhich explains to me why i don't see this problem with lubuntu itself21:54
vijuThings would have been different if I had installed lubuntu, instead of going ubuntu first?21:55
wxlsure21:56
wxlyou'll have some residual ubuntu garbage21:56
wxljust as you would with xubuntu/kubuntu/mate/etc.21:56
vijuI am guessing lxqt is built with qt framework instead of gnome21:57
wxlqt instead of gtk2, yes21:58
vijuThanks, cheers22:01
p0wderi followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack to upgrade to hwe kernel, and everything is working fine23:24
p0wderbut now apt is giving me updates for both kernels. 4.15.* and 5.* (HWE)23:24
p0wderany ideas how i can stop getting the updates for the non hwe kernels?23:25
p0wderhere is a screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/152kkMv_ca3u4BHoaMZSzT1oAjMr6mEe1/view23:29
krytarikp0wder: Just remove the variants that aren't from the HWE - these are metapackages, and later on you might want to remove the remaining actual non-HWE kernel packages too.23:34
p0wderis there like a proper way to remove them with apt or should i just do sudo rm ?23:36
p0wderi didnt run the upgrade yet23:36
krytarikOh, based on the screenshot I assumed you know how to use APT already - that'd be "sudo apt purge <package> ..."23:38
p0wderok cool. thx!23:41

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