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[10:44] <lubuntu> what is this?
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[10:45] <Guest69234> what is this
[10:58] <lalitmee> Hey guys, is binfmt_misc enabled by default in Lubuntu 18.04?
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[16:54] <Guest52149> y is everybody agents lubuntu?
[17:40] <YADW> Hello! I'm trying to install Lubuntu 16.04 LTS on a very old machine (18.04+ results in a kernel panic).
[17:40] <YADW>  I've succesfully installed the same version on several machines of seemingly the same lot, but this one in particular will show up a busybox shell whenever I try to run the installer or boot in the live OS.
[17:41] <YADW> Also, the keyboard gets disconnected so I can't even use the shell.
[18:05] <lubot> <HMollerCl> YADW 16.04 reaced EOL and is no loner maintaimned. We can help you with the kernel panic in 18.04.
[18:12] <YADW> lubot according to https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle 16.04 shouldn't reach EOL before 2021, and according to https://today-date.com/ we currently are around 2019. I could ask Wolfram Alpha, but I think 2019 is a smaller number than 2021.
[18:13] <YADW> Rough estimate, might need to check.
[18:15] <lubot> <aptghetto> The packages of Lubuntu are in universe, which is maintained by the community, not by Canonical. And Lubuntu supports LTS versions for 3 years.
[18:16] <lubot> <aptghetto> The 5 years are only for packages in the main repo.
[18:18] <YADW> Bugger, I had already opened Wolfram Alpha. Now I'll need to close the tab.
[18:53] <lubot> <N0um3n0> @YADW [<YADW> lubot according to https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle 16.04 shouldn't …], https://lubuntu.me/xenial-released/
[21:19] <viju> Hello, lubuntu desktop doesn't fill the entire screen. It leaves some 2 inches of left screen. However the taskbar is fills the entire bottom space as usual.
[21:19] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> which version?
[21:26] <viju> This is how it looks https://i.postimg.cc/bN9CHnGj/Selection-003.png
[21:27] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> woah! wierd.
[21:28] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl: @kc2bez @HMollerCl @aptghetto any of you seeing this? ^^
[21:34] <viju> Solved that. Thanks anyway
[21:34] <wxl> viju: first, i'll tell you what i tell everyone: don't bother with 18.04/lxde. come 2021, you'll be on lxqt anyways, so you might as well switch to lxqt now.
[21:35] <wxl> among other reasons: if this is a bug in lxde, good luck seeing it get fixed. the upstream developers are not doing anything and haven't in a long time.
[21:36] <viju> Is lxqt another desktop?
[21:36] <wxl> it's what lubuntu has been using since 18.10
[21:36] <wxl> basically lxde developers left and created lxqt
[21:36] <wxl> it's built off a different toolkit, but is the same basic experience
[21:36] <wxl> ..............except that it's constantly getting developed and improved
[21:36] <viju> I am on 18.04
[21:37] <wxl> that's what i'm saying: i'd advise against 18.04.
[21:37] <viju> I upgrade every two years when new LTS version's launched
[21:37] <wxl> the 18.04 -> 20.04 upgrade in lubuntu will not be supported. no lxde -> lxqt upgrade is.
[21:38] <wxl> that said, like i said, now's a good time to jump onto the lxqt train.
[21:40] <wxl> regardless, i have never seen an issue like you're showing. does it persist across reboots?
[21:42] <wxl> what about all the different virtual desktops?
[21:42] <wxl> can you DND things into that blank area?
[21:42] <wxl> what if you change the wallpaper?
[21:42] <viju> I reinstalled and it fixed itself
[21:43] <viju> Earlier the buttons were missing too. Don't know why
[21:43] <viju> max/min/close
[21:44] <wxl> this is a fresh install?
[21:45] <viju> Just lubuntu, not the OS
[21:45] <wxl> huh?
[21:46] <wxl> you installed the metapackage?
[21:46] <viju> I am not sure if I answered correctly. I meant I removed lubuntu and then reinstalled using sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[21:48] <wxl> what did you start with?
[21:51] <viju> I am not sure what you mean by that.
[21:51] <wxl> what did you install to begin with?
[21:52] <viju> lubuntu desktop
[21:52] <wxl> in ubuntu? using the mini.iso? what?
[21:52] <wxl> a standard lubuntu install?
[21:53] <viju> ubuntu first then I added different desktops - xfce/kubuntu/mate etc.
[21:53] <wxl> ah yeah well that can be all sorts of messy
[21:54] <viju> kde used to freeze/crash I haven't completely removed because I am using certain other packages
[21:54] <wxl> what that sounds like to me is a lot of variables
[21:54] <wxl> which explains to me why i don't see this problem with lubuntu itself
[21:55] <viju> Things would have been different if I had installed lubuntu, instead of going ubuntu first?
[21:56] <wxl> sure
[21:56] <wxl> you'll have some residual ubuntu garbage
[21:56] <wxl> just as you would with xubuntu/kubuntu/mate/etc.
[21:57] <viju> I am guessing lxqt is built with qt framework instead of gnome
[21:58] <wxl> qt instead of gtk2, yes
[22:01] <viju> Thanks, cheers
[23:24] <p0wder> i followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack to upgrade to hwe kernel, and everything is working fine
[23:24] <p0wder> but now apt is giving me updates for both kernels. 4.15.* and 5.* (HWE)
[23:25] <p0wder> any ideas how i can stop getting the updates for the non hwe kernels?
[23:29] <p0wder> here is a screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/152kkMv_ca3u4BHoaMZSzT1oAjMr6mEe1/view
[23:34] <krytarik> p0wder: Just remove the variants that aren't from the HWE - these are metapackages, and later on you might want to remove the remaining actual non-HWE kernel packages too.
[23:36] <p0wder> is there like a proper way to remove them with apt or should i just do sudo rm ?
[23:36] <p0wder> i didnt run the upgrade yet
[23:38] <krytarik> Oh, based on the screenshot I assumed you know how to use APT already - that'd be "sudo apt purge <package> ..."
[23:41] <p0wder> ok cool. thx!