[03:56] <ubptgbot> KevDoy was added by: KevDoy
 Ujicoba Ubuntu di hp samsung … https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/08/linux-on-dex-samsung-galaxy-s10-video
 (Video, 30s) https://irc.ubports.com/3XrSpGWa.mp4 TELEports has serious problems
 @aurnytoraink [<reply to media>], Thats expected 😆
 Idk why this happens, but its the video player component
 Its not our code, but we need to take a look. feel free to post an issue
 That's probably a bug in the QtMultimedia GStreamer pipeline. I'm not sure if a forced rerender of the video frames would result in the artifacts at the end to stop. but the code is atrocious.
 it's all within a 7000-8000 line patch file.
 lol
 owo i installed ub touch on my 1+1
 @marissaChan [What you refer to Linux is in fact gnu Linux], timeless classic
 @marissaChan [owo i installed ub touch on my 1+1], have you enjoyed the experience?
 wasnt able to use the installer. with my pc at home it got stuck on the flashing recovery. and on my laptop it didnt detect my device. … so i had to do the manual method (and i also wasnt able to manually reboot into the recovery, but `fastboot boot recovery.img` worked). … just in case you want some feedback about the installer and f
[08:16] <ubptgbot> or the tutorial on the manual method 🤔
 @marissaChan [wasnt able to use the installer. with my pc at home it got stuck on the flashing …], (btw my pc and laptop both were able to communicate with the device just fine through adb)
 @fredldotme [have you enjoyed the experience?], well. i kind of see why its not more popular 👀 i also wasnt able to connect to eduroam so far but ill look into that a bit more later ig
 @marissaChan [wasnt able to use the installer. with my pc at home it got stuck on the flashing …], in case you can replicate the issues feel free to file a bug report over at: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/issues
 yeah ill prob do that later. i saw that other people also had problems with it
 maybe your issue is already reported, you'll have to see for yourself
 @aurnytoraink [<reply to media>], Everything is WIP and as Flo said. Please post an issue in the tracker. This is a collaborative effort
 @malditobastardo [Everything is WIP and as Flo said. Please post an issue in the tracker. This is …], Ok I will
 haha wait till some sends a gif of a smiling guy
[10:21] <ubptgbot> vietbun was added by: vietbun
 Sendthe latest operating system of Ubuntu for my PC 64bit please
 @dwayne [Sendthe latest operating system of Ubuntu for my PC 64bit please], Wrong group
 @Flohack [Wrong group], Why
 @dwayne [Why], Because the latest Ubuntu for pc 64bit, isn't Ubuntu touch.
 It is
 This group is not about the "official" Ubuntu distributions, but for Ubuntu Touch for mobile devices only.
 So we do not have any latest Ubuntu for PC
 @Flohack [So we do not have any latest Ubuntu for PC], Thank you
 @marissaChan [owo i installed ub touch on my 1+1], Congratulations
 Is there a way to force-override device support for Anbox when installing it using `anbox-tool install`? I'd like to test Anbox on the Xperia X, kernel-side modifications are in place.
 @fredldotme [Is there a way to force-override device support for Anbox when installing it usi …], I have the same on note 4, let me know if you find out, cause the sprint note 4 has anbox kernel stuff
 welp, is whatsapp is on to us again or are messages unreadable on whatsapp web
 @Tygerpro [I have the same on note 4, let me know if you find out, cause the sprint note 4 …], seems device support needs to be added server-side: http://cdimage.ubports.com/anbox-images/devices.json
 Hmm ... how does one go about that then?
 ask @mariogrip maybe?
 we could for now change the url in the `anbox-tool` script to point to a different location with our device codenames whitelisted
 Hmm, maybe a test server?
 Feel free to use mine as a temp solution to see if it will work in theory
 yeah sure
 thanks
 No problem, Im still trying to figure out why my verizon port is only giving me telnet access, although I havent had a chance to look into it
 the answer should be in the diagnostics.log, right?
 Only with hybris-boot, halium-boot isnt as easy (unless they changed somethig)
 MATRAND Colchón de látex - Firmeza media, blanco - IKEA … https://www.ikea.com/es/es/p/matrand-colchon-latex-firmeza-media-blanco-10272175/
[14:48] <ubptgbot> cibersheep was added by: cibersheep
 Hello. I was dead and I've being clone but I have all my memories... except my chats
 zombiesheep?
 dolly
 @cibersheep [Hello. I was dead and I've being clone but I have all my memories... except my c …], You are alive! My machine told me you are a deleted account!
 @dohbee [zombiesheep?], Clonesheep
 @Danfro [You are alive! My machine told me you are a deleted account!], Aha...
[17:11] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> So I built an app with WebApp Creator, but it didn't behave as expected, so I uninstalled it. Now I'd like to reinstall it and try it again, but when I tap on the click file, nothing happens. How to install it?
 @John (Marlin) [So I built an app with WebApp Creator, but it didn't behave as expected, so I un …], Make sure to clean out your `.local/`, `.config/`, and `.share/` folders of the previously custom made and installed WebApp that was created with WebApp Creator and then give it another try. … You can do this via SSH or locally on
[17:14] <ubptgbot> your phone using the Terminal app.
[17:26] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @davidsrodriguez [Make sure to clean out your .local/, .config/, and .share/ folders of the previo …], So I've cleared the phone of the traces of the first installation. Selecting the click file to try to reinstall only brings up the usual file manager options like cut, copy, delete, and view properties. Should I be using a terminal
[17:26] <ubptgbot>  command to install the file?
 @John (Marlin) [So I've cleared the phone of the traces of the first installation. Selecting the …], you should be able to open it from file manager and choose open store to install it with; if that isn't work for some reason, you can run `pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted <click>` in a terminal to install it
[17:29] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [you should be able to open it from file manager and choose open store to install …], Thanks. That's what I was thinking too, but the choose an app to open option isn't showing up. I'll try the terminal.
[17:35] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [you should be able to open it from file manager and choose open store to install …], I have an error. Was I supposed to substitute the name of the click file for <click>? … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted <click> … bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
 yes, the path to the file
[17:36] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Thanks
[17:43] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [yes, the path to the file], So that did the job and the app has been reinstalled. The reason I wanted to check it again is because the WebApp Creator app let's you provide one master URL and 3 sub-URLs, but when I launch the app, it really just looks like a Morph session, and I don't see anyplace to access the sub-URLs prov
[17:43] <ubptgbot> ided to the WebApp Creator. Am I missing something, or was this app just created incorrectly by the creator?
 @John (Marlin) [So that did the job and the app has been reinstalled. The reason I wanted to che …], the "sub urls" you mention are additional URLs that should stay in the webapp. since i don't know what you did specifically i don't know why it looks like a morph browser session, nor do i know what you're expecting from the sub urls listin
[17:45] <ubptgbot> g
[17:53] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [the "sub urls" you mention are additional URLs that should stay in the webapp. s …], Right. I'm expecting the webapp to provide some kind of menu or buttons to select the sub-urls. In comparison, I also installed the FOSSBYTES webapp from Open Store. When it launches, all you see is the FOSSBYTES page with no visible Morph
[17:53] <ubptgbot> browser controls. But in the webapp I made, I provided the main url and 3 sub-urls. Launching this app actually shows the Morph splash screen and the page looks like a Morph screen with system notification shade icons visible, url bar, bookmark star, and Morph settins 3-dot menu. There is no sign of the 3 sub-urls I provided.
 @John (Marlin) [Right. I'm expecting the webapp to provide some kind of menu or buttons to selec …], no, that's not how that works. it sounds like maybe you have ended up having the browser open a link your webapp doesn't handle though
 there is no concept of a menu that you select URLs from
 Except maybe the history screen of a web browser?
[17:55] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Why does WebApp Creator allow giving sub-urls if they are not accessible in the webapp?
 @Tygerpro [Except maybe the history screen of a web browser?], well, not really a menu. that's a list, just like bookmarks
 @John (Marlin) [Why does WebApp Creator allow giving sub-urls if they are not accessible in the …], they are domains/URLs which are to be opened internally in the webapp, rather than sent off to a regular browser (or other app)
 But thats just a matter of changing the list type at that point iirc
 it sounds like you are just confusing yourself by misunderstanding the UI and what the meaning of the text is
 @Tygerpro [But thats just a matter of changing the list type at that point iirc], you are only adding to the confusion :)
[17:57] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Here's the screenshots of the FOSSBYTES webapp and the webapp I made:
 Ok, Ill go back to lurking, sorry
 you cannot provide a list of URLs to webapp container for which it will create a menu of
[17:57] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/05rruggY.png
[17:57] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/5AZ049O4.png
 yes, i have several webapps in the store myself
[17:58] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> So why does mine just launch Morph?
 i don't have the .desktop file so i don't know. you are welcome to pastebin it. and might be better to move the discussion to https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN
[17:59] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Okay. I was worried it didn't belong there because it's not real app development.
 there are people who have a Synology NAS? and who are interested in a FileStation application?
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [there are people who have a Synology NAS? and who are interested in a FileStatio …], Haven't personally used a Synology NAS before, but what protocol is this FileStation stuff based on?
 @fredldotme [Haven't personally used a Synology NAS before, but what protocol is this FileSta …], JSON
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/E9YR0oHZ.png I started to create the application
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/LBNmUjma.png
 I personally use WebDAV off my NAS
 sftp
 There are tons of their proprietary things for applications, but WebDAV works fine.
 I particularly like Moments, but at the end of the day it's just sorting my photos for me.
 but what's with the "random image as background of apps" trend
 InstantPho isn't different in that regard :D
 that's only because i haven't got around to changing it. it was that way when i took it over
 It's even weirder on iOS where apps have videos instead of images in the background
 Thank you for your answers.
 @UniversalSuperBox [I particularly like Moments, but at the end of the day it's just sorting my phot …], I am unfortunately not found an api for "Moments"
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [I am unfortunately not found an api for "Moments"], Yeah, that's why I'd create a WebDAV / generic file sync app if I had the time
 file sync with WebDAV proves to be a headache, as it's lacking additonal file properties for telling the global uniqueness of a file
 hmm, we really need to reconcile our ofono differences with upstream
 and not add more differences
 glares at marius
 we have additional plugins for MTK in ofono, which probably is incompatible with the current upstream API
 yeah, it will take a lot of work, but we should work on getting that fixed up and submitted upstream
 but it's not just that
 we have an insane amount of changes compared to upstream
 ``` 230 files changed, 44495 insertions(+), 489 deletions(-)``` … versus upstream 1.17 :(
 that's mostly canonical stuff
 I wonder how hard it would be to make the additional code run on a current upstream base
 @fredldotme [that's mostly canonical stuff], doesn't matter who did it initially. all that matters is we're stuck with it now, and this is what we ship.
 but that is going to take a lot of work to fix up
 if we want to switch to a newer ofono we might have to do so now, new Halium ports might profit from that, but we would lose support for our current MTK devices.
 but I believe we have bigger fish to fry first
 @fredldotme [if we want to switch to a newer ofono we might have to do so now, new Halium por …], no, we need to keep the mtk support obviously. halium ports with mtk would also suffer
 we can't just dump all the changes and drop in plain upstream ofono. that is obvious
 that's what I'm saying
 sigh https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9PCnRqxKGh/
 Im actually brainstorming an experimental rootfs based on bionic, Im mostly interested in adding support for hardware thats not currently supported or working such as a wacom tablet, or a iR blaster
 a rootfs change to bionic won't get you that
 custom kernel + not-UT rootfs might
 No, but it will allow me to experiment with packages that might get me that, I already have the custom kernel as my note 4 port, and a custom UT rootfs might be sufficient
 no i mean you need to change the kernel config from what the android kernel build has, to enable extra modules or such
 Well I can already see the wacom stuff in dmesg, so I figure Im at least halfway there
 and then somehow get those modules onto the system in a path where they can be loaded, but not part of the tiny images that would then be too large to flash
 well wacom is just a USB (or Bluetooth) HID i think. so the wacom mouse thing should at least work
 I also think if I do it right it could make switching to a new LTS much easier in the future
 but for more advanced stuff you'll need a proper config UI and such
 Well when i touch the stylus to a icon on the screen, nothing happens in the GUI
 welp, backporting pulseaudio is an even bigger pain than i thought
 @Tygerpro [Well when i touch the stylus to a icon on the screen, nothing happens in the GUI], you are physically tapping the screen with a stylus?
 I find alot of things with UT are harder than originally thought
 do you mean the note4 stylus, or you mean an actual wacom tablet?
 @dohbee [you are physically tapping the screen with a stylus?], Yes, the note 4 has a stylus, the touchscreen works fine but not the stylus
 The note 4 has a wacom digitizer built in
 hmmm
 @Tygerpro [I find alot of things with UT are harder than originally thought], well this is more just differences between 19.10 and 16.04 at this point
 and new dependencies in pulseaudio
 Well Im thinking if I make my own rootfs I can screw it up or make it however I want, I know if I move from unity8 then its no longer UT but I gotta start somewhere I guess, unless you know which xenial program works with wacom tablets
 well, have you considered the possibility that the drivers are meant for android/surfaceflinger, and might just be problematic under anything else?
 i mean, you can try plasma mobile or something too
 also would check one of the event monitoring tools
 I tried plasma, just bootloops, halium reference works fine, and UT boots fine with no changes outside of rootfs, granted UT just kinda crashes after 30 seconds of showing the spinner, but still
 unity8 keeps crashing over and over?
 Well with dmesg everytime i tap the screen with the stylus it shows a wacom event, then spams a bunch of stuff, and yeah, but thats if i dont change the kernel according to the ubports guide and leave it as configured according to the halium guide
 I was surprised it even made it to the spinner with hybris-boot, but i digress
 well you shouldn't need to disable the stylus support for UT
 have you posted the parts of the log with the events anywhere?
[19:54] <ubptgbot> gwado was added by: gwado
 Not yet, I just noticed I was getting the events a day or two ago
 I feel inshould mention its only with my sprint port, the verizon port is just booting to telnet, havent had a chance to login to it since I got home to find out why
 i don't think it matters. we need sensible artistic tablet config stuff anyway (for the convergence! you know, for kids.)
 Lol, well when I have some time to sit down and do it, I will, trying to get stuff done cause I leave for work again in less than 48 hours
 @John (Marlin) [So that did the job and the app has been reinstalled. The reason I wanted to che …], the sub url functionality seems to be broken on WebApp Creator currently.  It is certainly in need of some bug fixes and feature enhancements at this point for it to be as valuable as it could be - and it would be nice if its architectu
[20:21] <ubptgbot> re was updated fully to 16.04 -  hopefully some developers can be convinced to make an update to it
 @dohbee [i don't think it matters. we need sensible artistic tablet config stuff anyway ( …], Xournal works well in Libertine.  MyPaint installs in Libertine and almost works, but tends to be laggy and crashes, and parts of its gui are non-responsive.  the UT native Pluma and Fingerpainting apps definitely could use some improvement to
[20:24] <ubptgbot>  be really useful for stylus input.
 man, pulseaudio is confusing. last release was ~1 year ago, but there seems to be a lot of people committing to it
 @TotalSonic [Xournal works well in Libertine.  MyPaint installs in Libertine and almost works …], does pro 5 have a stylus or something? i don't think it's a wacom thing though. the issue that Tygerpro is talking about isn't really about the apps level
 @dohbee [does pro 5 have a stylus or something? i don't think it's a wacom thing though. …], There is no stylus on Pro 5 - I have just used finger input on those apps on UT - but have used them with stylus on standard desktop Ubuntu with various x86 tablets.   I was just mentioning those apps as ones that would potentially be compatibl
[20:28] <ubptgbot> e with stylus input.  Xournal is particularly useful as it allows for annotating pdf (useful for signing e-documents)
 well, tapping on letters on the keyboard or icons in the app drawer should also be "compatible" with a stylus
 but there's also different types of "stylus"
 There are indeed, the note 4 has an active stylus with a button on it, I have several x86 tablet pcs with styli and they are all different
[20:43] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [the sub url functionality seems to be broken on WebApp Creator currently.  It is …], Yes, I thought the app must be broken since it can't open a url, but passes it to Morph instead. Later I also noticed it's not opening the main url, but rather the third sub url, and the webapp remains open with a blank white screen. I'
[20:43] <ubptgbot> ll okay for now. Just made bookmarks instead.
[20:44] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [the sub url functionality seems to be broken on WebApp Creator currently.  It is …], [Edit] Yes, I thought the app must be broken since it can't open a url, but passes it to Morph instead. Later I also noticed it's not opening the main url, but rather the third sub url, and the webapp remains open with a blank white scr
[20:44] <ubptgbot> een. I'm okay for now. Just made bookmarks instead.
[21:21] <flaburgan> hi everyone
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/1iXsG1x0.webp
[21:27] <flaburgan> I am still struggling with anbox, I'm following http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html#how-to-install-new-apks but when I try to adb install my apk, it stays on "waiting for devices"
[21:28] <flaburgan> the list of devices is empty when I enter `adb devices` on my phone from a ssh sheel
[21:28] <flaburgan> shell
[21:39] <flaburgan> hm, it looks like the installation of OTA-10 removed the Anbox compatible boot img
 @flaburgan [hm, it looks like the installation of OTA-10 removed the Anbox compatible boot i …], Yes, has to be reflashed with each ota still
[21:50] <flaburgan> alright
[21:50] <flaburgan> thank you
[21:50] <flaburgan> but I won't loose the apps data I hope?
 No
[22:00] <flaburgan> hm
[22:00] <flaburgan> Signal was looking like it was working
[22:00] <flaburgan> then I had a Unity crash
[22:00] <flaburgan> and now it doesn't start
[22:01] <flaburgan> (signal apk with anbox)