[07:30] <marcustomlinson> good morning
[07:32] <jamesh> hi marcustomlinson
[07:32] <marcustomlinson> hey how you doing jamesh?
[07:34] <jamesh> good.  It stopped raining in time for the weekend, which was nice
[07:41] <marcustomlinson> jamesh: cool, we had a sunny saturday, so went for a wee hike up a hill for views of the city + picnic, was awesome. Yesterday was rainy again though
[07:46] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson
[07:47] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu, good weekend?
[07:47] <duflu> marcustomlinson, too busy and therefore too short. Again. Sounds like yours was nice
[07:50] <marcustomlinson> well half of it was yeah :) Yesterday I got so bored I started working
[07:52] <duflu> Ha. I long to reach boredom like that
[07:53] <Trevinho> morning desktop heroes!
[07:54]  * duflu looks around
[07:54] <duflu> Morning Trevinho
[07:54] <marcustomlinson> hey Trevinho
[07:55] <marcustomlinson> just a handful of heroes today :)
[07:55] <duflu> 🦸
[07:55] <Trevinho> duflu: eheh.. Hi,
[07:56] <Trevinho> marcustomlinson: hey... this is their cave anyways
[07:57] <marcustomlinson> little echoey in here today
[08:02] <Laney> ECHO ECHO EcHo ecHo eco co c c c c .. .......................................
[08:06] <duflu> Hi Laney                                                                                                 \o
[08:14] <RAOF> Ooh!
[08:15] <RAOF> Is there any example of an autopkgtest running a Gnome session?
[08:15] <duflu> Evening RAOF
[08:17] <RAOF> Hey duflu !
[08:21] <RAOF> Because the colord installed tests need a user-session component, and it'd be a better test if it used a real GNOME session.
[08:25] <RAOF> (also, the relevant test *mostly* fails in my fake minimal gnomeish environment)
[08:26] <Laney> hey duflu hey RAOF
[08:26] <Laney> RAOF: Not that I know of, only lame chroots
[08:26] <RAOF> Yeah, yeah, Laney!
[08:28] <RAOF> It seems like you *should* be able to start a GNOME session  on xvfb in an isolation-container autopkgtest.
[08:28] <Trevinho> hi Laney
[08:30] <RAOF> But my attempts fail with systemd failing to be dbus-launched, apparently.
[08:31] <marcustomlinson> Morn Laney
[08:33] <jamesh> RAOF: try "systemctl start user@${UID}.service"
[08:33] <jamesh> RAOF: that won't give you the xvfb bit, but will give you a systemd friendly session bus
[08:33] <Laney> I don't know how much of a full PAM/logind session you get
[08:33] <Laney> hey Trevinho marcustomlinson
[08:34] <jamesh> and systemd user instance
[08:34] <RAOF> I don't necessarily need PAM or logind; I've already hacked around the permissions problems 😀
[08:35] <RAOF> jamesh: oooh, thanks. I'll give that a try tomorrow!
[08:36] <jamesh> RAOF: it's the pattern I've used in snapd spread tests that need to deal with a systemd managed session bus or systemd user units
[08:37] <jamesh> that plus su to the test user with XDG_RUNTIME_DIR set appropriately is enough to get "systemctl --user" to work
[09:15] <clobrano> hey everyone 0/
[09:16] <clobrano> Trevinho, Laney: Yaru 19.10.1 released
[09:16] <duflu> Morning clobrano
[09:16] <Laney> hey clobrano
[09:16] <Laney> w00t
[09:17] <marcustomlinson> \o/
[09:17]  * marcustomlinson hearts Yaru
[09:17] <clobrano> eheh
[09:22] <Laney> Trevinho: you want to do the tag & upload to silo/
[09:30] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[10:05] <duflu> Oops
[10:05] <duflu> Morning seb128
[10:05] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[10:05] <duflu> seb128, going OK. Actually I should wind down the day soon. How are you?
[10:06] <seb128> I'm good, catching up with things after a long w.e
[10:07] <seb128> you should start enjoying your evening yeah :)
[10:11] <marcustomlinson> morning seb128
[10:15] <Trevinho> hi seb128
[10:25] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, Trevinho, how are you? had a good w.e?
[10:26] <marcustomlinson> seb128: weekend was good thanks. Some hiking and picnicking on Saturday which was nice. Yours?
[10:29] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, was good, long one and with lots of kilometers :)
[13:09] <Laney> indicator-datetime has a weird version for a native package
[13:11]  * Laney eyes https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/15.10+19.10.20190507-0ubuntu1 this upload & tsimonq2 
[13:25] <Trevinho> Yeah should probably be bumped
[13:25] <Laney> done
[14:17] <seb128> Laney, k, so I'm mostly done catching up with things ... your comment on that gnome-desktop card, is that because gnome-desktop changed soname and we basically need to work on that list of rdepends/reupload them in the silo?
[14:17] <Laney> yes
[14:18] <seb128> how do you want to sync, should I just state it here if I do test build/upload some?
[14:19] <Laney> I'm not doing any, feel free to do as many as you want/can
[14:19] <seb128> k, good
[14:19] <Laney> got to fix datetime on 32 bit :-(
[14:20] <seb128> :(
[14:57] <ricotz> hi, regarding an update to vala 0.46 -- https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/vala-eoan/+packages
[15:08] <seb128> hey ricotz, sorry I didn't end up being able to sponsor it last week, I had forgotten about the 'can't source upload a package that needs to go through NEW' requirement
[15:09] <seb128> ricotz, thx for the ppa/test build, quite some failures in there though :-/
[15:10] <ricotz> seb128, ah, I see
[15:10] <seb128> I will get to it later or tomorrow
[15:10] <ricotz> seb128, yeah, but some are already fixed upstream and in newer releases
[15:11] <ricotz> thanks
[15:18] <popey_> kenvandine: you in today?
[15:19] <seb128> popey, he's on vac still today
[15:19] <popey_> ah okay, thanks!
[15:19] <seb128> np
[15:19] <seb128> popey, then he's travelling for GUADEC, so email might be best this week
[15:19] <popey_> Good to know. Thank you!
[15:20] <seb128> yw!
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, k, I did a good part of the gnome-desktop rdepends but stopping there for now, I wanted to handle replying to some MIR review, doing my weekly summary and a bunch of other stuff still
[15:55] <Laney> cheers!
[16:02] <seb128> RAOF, did you get anywhere with the colord autopkgtest issue and the new version?
[17:10] <mitya57> Laney: hi! You may want to add https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/commit/8353176d923a6b0e to your PPA. Otherwise after running apt autoremove the system doesn't boot because of missing gir1.2-json-1.0.
[17:12] <mitya57> Also I have prepared gnome-flashback package with updated systemd session support. Will you mind if I upload it there?
[17:29] <mitya57> If you want to take a look first, the changes are in https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-flashback/gnome-flashback
[20:42] <Laney> mitya57: go for it, also maybe upload that mutter?
[20:42] <Laney> thanks for that
[21:16] <mitya57> Laney: done both
[22:26] <mwhudson> jibel: did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/ubuntu/+source/casper/+git/casper/+merge/371071? what do you think?
[23:46] <mwhudson> jibel: uploading that change, hope you like it :)