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cpaelzerjust stumbled over https://github.com/virt-manager/virt-manager/commits/cloudinit06:37
cpaelzeris that known or something you want to help with?06:37
tribaalblackboxsw: for the record: I built and booted an Eoan template with 19.2-13-g2f3bb764-0ubuntu1 on our preproduction environment, and all seems well :)10:34
Odd_Bloketribaal: \o/13:33
Odd_Blokecpaelzer__: I'm not aware of it, but it looks cool!  What help could we offer?13:36
Odd_Bloke(If you know!)13:36
tribaalI guess we're ready to have Eoan available on day one :P13:45
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cpaelzerOdd_Bloke: I don't know what they work on or woudl need right now14:33
cpaelzerI just have seen the branch while cloning virt-manager for a fix14:33
cpaelzerand wondered if that is part of a community activity that you'd know of14:33
cpaelzerinteresting ...14:33
cpaelzerwaiting if rharper doesn't know it either ...14:34
rharperit's new to me as well; looks like virt-install adding support for installing their cloud images by prepping some in-image cloud-init ;14:40
blackboxswOdd_Bloke: rharper Steve's suggestion to use debconf-loadtemplate adds a dependency on debconf-utils that cloud-init doesn't currently have. That adds about 57K of packages if we made this strict package dependency.  Would we want to avoid adding this package unless someone specified ubuntu-drivers cloud-config?16:58
rharperblackboxsw: let's check in #ubuntu-devel with vorlon for alternatives/thoughts16:58
blackboxswsounds good16:59
matorhello17:10
matorhow do i install a cloud-init server, not instance? for example, i have kvm server for vm deployment and want to use cloud init for cloud images VMs17:10
matorbesides of .iso images with cloud file metadata settings, is there network way to init vm ?17:12
rharpermator: hi,  I'm not sure that I understand your questions; but it sounds like you'd be interested in Ubuntu cloud-images[1], which are Ubuntu server images with cloud-init already installed.  And if you aren't running these images on a cloud, you'll want to learn to use cloud-init's NoCloud datasource[2], which allows cloud-init to find configuration on secondary devices (like a cdrom);   1. http://cloud-images.ubuntu.c17:36
rharperom/daily/server/bionic/current/ 2. https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/nocloud.html17:36
Odd_Blokerharper: blackboxsw: https://write.wrestle.town/oddbloke/dracut-findings-for-cloud-init <-- your thoughts would be appreciated18:59
blackboxswOdd_Bloke: if we were to go down the route of extending dracut to emit a more friendly/standardized network configuration instead of cloud-init growing the ability to parse dracut's config, what is the  possibility that we have issues upstreaming dracut fixes for cloud-init if needed? If we have issues with dracut upstream, I'm not certain what *we* would do to host our own official yum repo, other than our dev19:58
blackboxswcopr repos19:58
blackboxswwith the option of  cloud-init proper growing dracut-parsing logic, we control the publishing of that feature, so if we have bugs, we can be certain that we fix them quickly and fast-track public releases of cloud-init that can cope19:59
Odd_Blokeblackboxsw: We won't be able to push any dracut changes back into the releases that people actually care about, I don't think.20:02
Odd_BlokeGetting dracut to emit v2 network YAML would be very nice, but we'd only be able to glean the benefits in several years, really.20:04
Odd_BlokeSo we need something to bridge that gap.20:04
blackboxswohh /me misread "2. implement parsing in the dracut initramfs code"   as implementing it in dracut package.20:07
Odd_BlokeAh, yes, that's confusing wording.20:07
Odd_BlokeLet me fix that up.20:07
Odd_Blokeblackboxsw: Is that clearer?20:08
blackboxsw+1 Odd_Bloke20:09
Odd_BlokeThanks for the catch!20:09
blackboxswI'd agree with path 2. Odd_Bloke until we have more use cases20:10
blackboxsws/catch/getting confused myself/20:10
Odd_Bloke:)20:10
blackboxswOdd_Bloke: rharper for tomorrow: just put up ubuntu-drivers v2 https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/37154622:49
rharperblackboxsw: cool23:02

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