[06:37] <cpaelzer> just stumbled over https://github.com/virt-manager/virt-manager/commits/cloudinit
[06:37] <cpaelzer> is that known or something you want to help with?
[10:34] <tribaal> blackboxsw: for the record: I built and booted an Eoan template with 19.2-13-g2f3bb764-0ubuntu1 on our preproduction environment, and all seems well :)
[13:33] <Odd_Bloke> tribaal: \o/
[13:36] <Odd_Bloke> cpaelzer__: I'm not aware of it, but it looks cool!  What help could we offer?
[13:36] <Odd_Bloke> (If you know!)
[13:45] <tribaal> I guess we're ready to have Eoan available on day one :P
[14:33] <cpaelzer> Odd_Bloke: I don't know what they work on or woudl need right now
[14:33] <cpaelzer> I just have seen the branch while cloning virt-manager for a fix
[14:33] <cpaelzer> and wondered if that is part of a community activity that you'd know of
[14:33] <cpaelzer> interesting ...
[14:34] <cpaelzer> waiting if rharper doesn't know it either ...
[14:40] <rharper> it's new to me as well; looks like virt-install adding support for installing their cloud images by prepping some in-image cloud-init ;
[16:58] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: rharper Steve's suggestion to use debconf-loadtemplate adds a dependency on debconf-utils that cloud-init doesn't currently have. That adds about 57K of packages if we made this strict package dependency.  Would we want to avoid adding this package unless someone specified ubuntu-drivers cloud-config?
[16:58] <rharper> blackboxsw: let's check in #ubuntu-devel with vorlon for alternatives/thoughts
[16:59] <blackboxsw> sounds good
[17:10] <mator> hello
[17:10] <mator> how do i install a cloud-init server, not instance? for example, i have kvm server for vm deployment and want to use cloud init for cloud images VMs
[17:12] <mator> besides of .iso images with cloud file metadata settings, is there network way to init vm ?
[17:36] <rharper> mator: hi,  I'm not sure that I understand your questions; but it sounds like you'd be interested in Ubuntu cloud-images[1], which are Ubuntu server images with cloud-init already installed.  And if you aren't running these images on a cloud, you'll want to learn to use cloud-init's NoCloud datasource[2], which allows cloud-init to find configuration on secondary devices (like a cdrom);   1. http://cloud-images.ubuntu.c
[17:36] <rharper> om/daily/server/bionic/current/ 2. https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/nocloud.html
[18:59] <Odd_Bloke> rharper: blackboxsw: https://write.wrestle.town/oddbloke/dracut-findings-for-cloud-init <-- your thoughts would be appreciated
[19:58] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: if we were to go down the route of extending dracut to emit a more friendly/standardized network configuration instead of cloud-init growing the ability to parse dracut's config, what is the  possibility that we have issues upstreaming dracut fixes for cloud-init if needed? If we have issues with dracut upstream, I'm not certain what *we* would do to host our own official yum repo, other than our dev
[19:58] <blackboxsw> copr repos
[19:59] <blackboxsw> with the option of  cloud-init proper growing dracut-parsing logic, we control the publishing of that feature, so if we have bugs, we can be certain that we fix them quickly and fast-track public releases of cloud-init that can cope
[20:02] <Odd_Bloke> blackboxsw: We won't be able to push any dracut changes back into the releases that people actually care about, I don't think.
[20:04] <Odd_Bloke> Getting dracut to emit v2 network YAML would be very nice, but we'd only be able to glean the benefits in several years, really.
[20:04] <Odd_Bloke> So we need something to bridge that gap.
[20:07] <blackboxsw> ohh /me misread "2. implement parsing in the dracut initramfs code"   as implementing it in dracut package.
[20:07] <Odd_Bloke> Ah, yes, that's confusing wording.
[20:07] <Odd_Bloke> Let me fix that up.
[20:08] <Odd_Bloke> blackboxsw: Is that clearer?
[20:09] <blackboxsw> +1 Odd_Bloke
[20:09] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks for the catch!
[20:10] <blackboxsw> I'd agree with path 2. Odd_Bloke until we have more use cases
[20:10] <blackboxsw> s/catch/getting confused myself/
[20:10] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[22:49] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: rharper for tomorrow: just put up ubuntu-drivers v2 https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/371546
[23:02] <rharper> blackboxsw: cool