 ccccccknknlufebrjbgellignndjinfjdtckrrbgubjf
 @davidsrodriguez [ccccccknknlufebrjbgellignndjinfjdtckrrbgubjf], Yubikey misstep
 @UniversalSuperBox [Yubikey misstep], Apologies.. That's correct 😆
 I was thinking what might be a good list to assemble for the website was the Halium based UT ports that are closer to being complete - with links to whatever pages are up for docs and bug reports for them-  so that people could maybe potentially focus on helping port those first.  If my memory is correct this would include devices like
[01:09] <ubptgbot>  Samsung Note 4, Planet Gemini, OnePlus 3, and Sony  Xperia X.
 I like the idea, I know there were a couple people that had a note 4 (besides myself) I dont know if anyone else is still trying to help, but Im running off the presumption that Im the only one
 yeah - it seems so many posts are people wanting a port done for their own (sometimes obscure) device - but what would be more helpful would be people knowing what devices are almost a functional port that just needs more hands working to finish these.  But right now finding out the doc links to these isn't so easy
 Well I gotta get my two ports to the same place, I had to reset my repo recently and now Im trying to get it back to a working GUI
 I think it may be my kernel cmd line, I just modified it, and now I need to test but gotta get the kiddo asleep first
 If you do make this list, just put nothing works for now lol
 @John (Marlin) [Yes, I thought the app must be broken since it can't open a url, but passes it t …], you need to edit your desktop file to include the url it opens in morph
 something's weird on MX4....suddenly it seems slow, app startup time and clicking stuffs are slower than normal … hopefully OTA10 will will snap my phone back to normal 😄
 reboot no help?
 I've shutdown and rebooted a couple of times already
 weird, can you see anything that's eating resources?
 haven't really checked...but it's really weird because navigating is fine and normal, but opening apps is extra slow and sometime clicking on something has a delay
 that is really weird indeed hmmm
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[05:16] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [yeah - it seems so many posts are people wanting a port done for their own (some …], Devices list links to porting guide which links to the list of devices in progress: … https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues
[05:17] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [you need to edit your desktop file to include the url it opens in morph], Thanks. Where do I find this file?
 @John (Marlin) [Devices list links to porting guide which links to the list of devices in progre …], John - this is a good start - but doesn't really pick out the fewer devices out of that longer list which have made the most progress in getting UT functional on them
[05:18] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [John - this is a good start - but doesn't really pick out the fewer devices out …], True.
 @John (Marlin) [True.], when I have time maybe I will try and figure that out and will post on the forum if I can
[05:18] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [when I have time maybe I will try and figure that out and will post on the forum …], Can it be sorted in date order according to the devices that have the most recent commits?
 @John (Marlin) [Can it be sorted in date order according to the devices that have the most recen …], that might not really reflect on whether the device has the most functions already working for it on UT though
 @Fuseteam [you need to edit your desktop file to include the url it opens in morph], If anyone could post a tutorial on a newbie friendly way of coding a webapp for UT without using Webapp Creator would be greatly appreciated by myself as well
 Is there something wrong with the Jenkins server? I have tried to download the rootfs yesterday and it keep failing after a minute or so and speed was very slow. Or is it mine ISP/router? Tried this morning, same thing. Anybody else with such an issue? I'm located in UK. Previously I had no issues whatsoever and my broadband connectio
[06:17] <ubptgbot> n is rather good for surfing...
[07:14] <ubptgbot> Maciej was added by: Maciej
 Hi all. I was thinking about buying nexux 5 only for ununu touch. I am windows phone user since WP 10 came. I had pixel 3 for 2 months but android is not for me. I won't touch Ishit ever again.  … Does nexux 5 have latest Ubuntu touch version or should I buy something else ? I don't live in USA and Amazon will charge 100$ for transport so
[07:16] <ubptgbot> I am unable to buy "promoted Ubuntu touch devices "  … Thx 4 help <3
 [Edit] Hi all. I was thinking about buying nexux 5 only for ubuntu touch. I am windows phone user since WP 10 came. I had pixel 3 for 2 months but android is not for me. I won't touch Ishit ever again.  … Does nexux 5 have latest Ubuntu touch version or should I buy something else ? I don't live in USA and Amazon will charge 100$ for trans
[07:16] <ubptgbot> port so I am unable to buy "promoted Ubuntu touch devices "  … Thx 4 help <3
 [Edit] Hi all. I was thinking about buying nexux 5 only for ubuntu touch. I am windows phone user since WP 10 came. I had pixel 3 for 2 months but android is not for me and I won't touch Ishit ever again.  … Does nexux 5 have latest Ubuntu touch version or should I buy something else ? I don't live in USA and Amazon will charge 100$ for tr
[07:19] <ubptgbot> ansport so I am unable to buy "promoted Ubuntu touch devices "  … Thx 4 help <3
 Yes N5 is a good choice for using UBports Ubuntu Touch.
 @libremax [Yes N5 is a good choice for using UBports Ubuntu Touch.], What about updates ? From what I know, ubuntu touch is dead and community update it. I don't expect monthly updates but does nexux 5 has latest updates ?
 @libremax [Yes N5 is a good choice for using UBports Ubuntu Touch.], Is there a better option?
 Yes, N5 is fully supported by UBports community.
 Some people prefer OPO.
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [there are people who have a Synology NAS? and who are interested in a FileStatio …], Of course, me :-)
 @libremax [Yes, N5 is fully supported by UBports community.], Thanks 😀. Nexux 5 is 25$ in my country so I'll have some updates . WP is dead for some time and I want something working a little more
 @libremax [Yes, N5 is fully supported by UBports community.], [Edit] Thanks 😀. Nexux 5 is 25$ in my country so I'll have some updates . WP is dead for some time and I want something more updated
 I use N5 as my daily device for two years with UBports UT and enjoy it...
 UBports UT is fully alive!
 Free software is more resilient than proprietary software.
 @libremax [Free software is more resilient than proprietary software.], "free" not counting developers works and creativity to make rom
 Free as Libre
 @marissaChan [Is there a better option?], In comparison the Nexus 5, the OnePlus One offers a faster CPU, more RAM, more storage, a larger display, better battery life, and better video playback.  The disadvantages of the OnePlus One are that the zoom and flash are not currently working on the camera.  The OnePlus One can send to exter
[07:45] <ubptgbot> nal display wirelessly via a Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter - where as the Nexus 5 uses a wired Slimport adapater.
 WIsh ubuntu touch worked on phones that were newer than 2013
 @TotalSonic [In comparison the Nexus 5, the OnePlus One offers a faster CPU, more RAM, more s …], I don't want phone to be "smartphone" . I just need it to make a calls and to be encrypted
 @shibork [WIsh ubuntu touch worked on phones that were newer than 2013], Samsung s7 had ubu port. "Had" because I am not sure if it was released or no. Same as some Sony phones if I am not wrong
 @Maciej [Samsung s7 had ubu port. "Had" because I am not sure if it was released or no. S …], I'm surprised the newer Nexus phones never got ports
 or Pixels
 @Maciej [I don't want phone to be "smartphone" . I just need it to make a calls and to be …], well, any of the UT supported phones can make calls, as long as your carrier supports the GSM or LTE bands they work at.  As for encryption - it depends on what you are looking for - the data on the phone is not encrypted by default.
 From what I remember, android phone need >Oreo to be working
 @shibork [or Pixels], Pixel 3 was released with pie
 @Maciej [From what I remember, android phone need >Oreo to be working], Not really
 (Sticker, 512x368) https://irc.ubports.com/d4VuAfnv.webp
 Fuk
 Misslick 😂
 app support goes all the way back to kitkat
 @shibork [app support goes all the way back to kitkat], >Oreo = older than Oreo
 ohhh
 sorry its almost 3am for me
 Np
 I know tha feeling. Got work since 4am to 6pm 😂
 Lmao
 I think this is the furthest they got on a port for the Nexus 6P (my old phone)
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/SBqLyPGJ.png
 im like 100% sure ill never see a port for the Note9
 considering the bootloader hasnt even been unlocked yet
 @shibork [considering the bootloader hasnt even been unlocked yet], Exynos, yes
 @Maciej [Exynos, yes], I'm on SD
 Snap will be. Note 8 snap got unlocked
 Note 9 might be if some1 will work on it
 @Maciej [Snap will be. Note 8 snap got unlocked], the phone has been out for a year and no progress has been made tho
 Phones that come with Android 8 or 9 are not currently Halium compatible - so porting UT for those is not something that can be done yet.
 @TotalSonic [Phones that come with Android 8 or 9 are not currently Halium compatible - so po …], The 6P shipped with 7 iirc
 @shibork [The 6P shipped with 7 iirc], then it is possible a port can be done.
 i wish windows mobile still existed tho, i miss having a UI that was extremely intuitive
 also it could run on a toaster
 @shibork [i wish windows mobile still existed tho, i miss having a UI that was extremely i …], It does. Just buy 950xl and it will work. No updates or anything but community still exist :D
 @Maciej [It does. Just buy 950xl and it will work. No updates or anything but community s …], I had a M8 for windows
 dropped it and it shattered tho
 Rip
 i love my note9 tho
 I bought almost new 950xl for 100$ 😂. I tried to buy new 1 for my sister this year. Idk what happend but most shops have that phone for almost 900$. Like wtf?
 @Maciej [I bought almost new 950xl for 100$ 😂. I tried to buy new 1 for my sister this y …], uh what
 its like a 3 year old phone isnt it?
 4 q 2015
 my phone was $1000 oOF
 Which 1 ?
 Note9
 lul
 Your rich ?
 I got it before the S10 came out
 I would never be able to buy that experience stuff 😂
 @Maciej [Your rich ?], nah i just plan on keeping this for 3 years
 i had been through like 4 phones in the span of a year and i got really tired of that
 I went from Moto X 2014 to iPhone 4S to Moto X 2014 to Droid Mini to Nexus 6P in 2018
 two different moto x devices too
 I bought Samsung s1 , then I had some lg, went to Huawei y6 2016 and few week after buying Huawei I found Microsoft phone. I keep it since then
 the first moto xs charging port fell off the board, the 4s just was slow and kinda temporary, the other moto x ended up having extreme screen ghosting, the droid mini bootlooped and the nexus 6p ended up having battery issues after i replaced it twice
 @Maciej [I bought Samsung s1 , then I had some lg, went to Huawei y6 2016 and few week af …], are you in the us?
 just asking because $900 for a lumia 950xl seems ludacris
 Please, it's time to come back to UBports subjects...
[08:28] <ubptgbot> xowaenija was added by: xowaenija
 Gentle reminder: for general chitchat we have https://t.me/UBportsOF :)
 @shibork [just asking because $900 for a lumia 950xl seems ludacris], I was never in us
 I love in Poland
 [Edit] I live in Poland
 And I know it's reallyyyyy expensive but it seems like stores keep last 10-20 devices for "geeks* who really want those phones
 [Edit] And I know it's reallyyyyy expensive but it seems like stores keep last 10-20 devices for "geeks* who really want those phones and willing to pay much for them
 @shibork [the first moto xs charging port fell off the board, the 4s just was slow and kin …], I never had any problems with phones. No even screen burn. Never dropped any of my phones, never hit anything with them etc
 Maciej please continue your speech in UBOF. Thank you :)
 Ubof 🤔?
 I just posted the link 😄
 Oh. Sory for spam
 👍
 @shibork [just asking because $900 for a lumia 950xl seems ludacris], [Edit] I was never in us. I live in Poland
 @shibork [just asking because $900 for a lumia 950xl seems ludacris], [Edit] I was never in us. I live in Poland … And I know it's reallyyyyy expensive but it seems like stores keep last 10-20 devices for "geeks* who really want those phones and willing to pay much for them
 @Lukas [Of course, me :-)], an application like DSfile on android interests you?
 Yes, thought about creating one by myself, but have not much time...
 Hi everyone ! … Tonight, I will buy a Nexus 7 tablet and I will install ubport on it for testing :) … Is it possible to do the converge with this tablet ? :)
 * convergence
 Hi, I believe so, someone else will be able to confirm
 @Zak39 [Hi everyone ! … Tonight, I will buy a Nexus 7 tablet and I will install ubport on …], Tried it with the 3G version (deb) just yesterday and it works.  Kind of.  Haven't been able to connect a keyboard via Bluetooth.  I don't rely on BT for other things so I cannot say if that device has a general BT problem.  The test device was on
[09:33] <ubptgbot>  current RC.
 @John (Marlin) [Thanks. Where do I find this file?], in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/yourapp once ypu installed it
 @TotalSonic [If anyone could post a tutorial on a newbie friendly way of coding a webapp for …], hmm i'll see what i can do
 What I would like to know of why when I create an app with webapp creator it runs just fine instead when using clickable where it lags
 [Edit] What I would like to know is why when I create an app with webapp creator it runs just fine instead when using clickable where it lags
 @shibork [I'm surprised the newer Nexus phones never got ports], this takes time, interest and patience, anyone with these three can port newer devices and help solve the roadblocks
 @Maciej [What about updates ? From what I know, ubuntu touch is dead and community update …], ubuntu touch is kept alive by this community which mean yes there are frequent updates
 @Fuseteam [ubuntu touch is kept alive by this community which mean yes there are frequent u …], Thx
 @malditobastardo [What I would like to know is why when I create an app with webapp creator it run …], That's usually due to PEBCAK 😜
 Haha maybe
 Please Explain Better Cannot Address K-9
 [Edit] PEBCAK: Please Explain Better Cannot Address K-9
 Exactly (🙏🗣☑️👀🐶)
 End of OT 😄
 @TotalSonic [In comparison the Nexus 5, the OnePlus One offers a faster CPU, more RAM, more s …], Another OPO disadvantage is no SD card (not that the N5 has one either).
 @shibork [WIsh ubuntu touch worked on phones that were newer than 2013], Meizu Pro 5 says hi.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/PzYoo00R.webp
 (Sticker, 448x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5nv145E3.webp
 @shibork [I think this is the furthest they got on a port for the Nexus 6P (my old phone)], Got a 6P on my table but have no time for porting 😆
 @advocatux [Exactly (🙏🗣☑️👀🐶)], 😂😂😂
 @TartanSpartan [Meizu Pro 5 says hi.], More like fairphone
 Welllllll they were both 2015 phones, no?
 @TartanSpartan [Welllllll they were both 2015 phones, no?], Fair phone still being produced
 Not according to Wiki, it ceased in 2018.
 Ok
 @dohbee I saw you trying to update pulseaudio and noticed the module-droid package in there. isn't module-droid in a separate repo or has it been merged into pulseaudio upstream?
 @fredldotme [@dohbee I saw you trying to update pulseaudio and noticed the module-droid packa …], Event income
 @shibork [WIsh ubuntu touch worked on phones that were newer than 2013], OnePlus One - April 2014 , Fairphone 2 - December 2015, Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition - February 2016.  coming soon: Pine64 Pinephone - due around November 2019, Purism Librem 5 -  estimated March 2020.
 @malditobastardo [Fair phone still being produced], Next Thursday the FP3 will be announced but the FP2 is fully sold out and won't be produced anymore.
[13:18] <ubptgbot> Francis Steward was added by: Francis Steward
[13:19] <ubptgbot> <Francis Steward> Hi everyone i am selling this Maserati gran turismo for 35000 USD thoses who are interested contact me inbox
[13:19] <ubptgbot> <Francis Steward> (Photo, 800x600) https://irc.ubports.com/pD7eQQFC.png
 spam spam spam spam and smap
 [Edit] spam spam spam spam and spam
 License plates missing ;)
 Fixed :)
 Can't we create a group just for the spammers to spam each other?
 hey guys i am selling this NO MATERIAL for $1, runs, drives, cold ac
 (Photo, 1077x599) https://irc.ubports.com/7sfKSp7C.png
 bruh
 Please, keep this group on topic. Thank you :)
[13:21] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @alan_griffiths [Can't we create a group just for the spammers to spam each other?], I like that.
 @alan_griffiths [Can't we create a group just for the spammers to spam each other?], Thatd be fun to watch lol
[13:22] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @Tygerpro [Thatd be fun to watch lol], Ikr
 They would no use it :((
 They would if we put them in there
 [Edit] They would not use it :((
 I am curious to the new Fairphone, hope it’ll run Ubuntu too
 Thatd be nice, but I have a feeling it wont without some work
 @llamass [Event income], oh, are you paying me to update pulseaudio?
 lol
 @fredldotme [@dohbee I saw you trying to update pulseaudio and noticed the module-droid packa …], i don't think so, but just trying to get it as close to the previous build, to determine how to go forward
 yeah I saw `pulseaudio-module-droid` in the controls file which disturbed me, I remember the last build taking place in its own repo
 @fredldotme [yeah I saw pulseaudio-module-droid in the controls file which disturbed me, I re …], i don't know. it seemed to be there before, so i added it back
 in any case, what I wanted to come down to: in case this really builds the droid module with it we need a solution for android-24 as well, built with its headers instead of the older android-19 ones
 @fredldotme [in any case, what I wanted to come down to: in case this really builds the droid …], i would much prefer we could build additional modules outside of pulseaudio. would make updating it much simpler in the future
 same here, which we already do with droid-glue{,24}
 [Edit] same here, which we already do with droid-glue{,-24}
 i don't know why canonical don't patch it to do that, and build the snappy module externally
 well, it somewhat makes snappy an "official" offering as part of other projects. I'll call that Open Source Marketing Effort for a lack of a better term
 well, that'd be true if it was upstreamed, and not a distro patch :P
 LOL maybe it's a goal of canonical
[14:18] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/yourapp once ypu installed it], Thanks. I opened it in nano, but got this message: … [ Read 9 lines (Warning: No write permission) ]
 @John (Marlin) [Thanks. I opened it in nano, but got this message: … [ Read 9 lines (Warning: No …], right, only root can write to that path
[14:19] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [right, only root can write to that path], Thanks. The warning went away opening nano with sudo.
[14:23] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [right, only root can write to that path], Is this the right syntax for the main URL in .desktop? … URL=https://www.byuradio.org/listen
 no
[14:28] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> How should I write it?
 @John (Marlin) [How should I write it?], can you pastebin what you already had from webapp creator at https://paste.ubuntu.com or somewhere?
[14:32] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [can you pastebin what you already had from webapp creator at https://paste.ubunt …], Sure. No URL mentioned at all, but the webapp does transfer the URL to Morph and it opens in browser. … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mkdMFwMyZw/
 @John (Marlin) [Sure. No URL mentioned at all, but the webapp does transfer the URL to Morph and …], hmm, looks like either it created the file wrong, or you copied it out of nano which cut the output weirdly
[14:34] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @TotalSonic [OnePlus One - April 2014 , Fairphone 2 - December 2015, Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Editi …], I think having a constant retail presence of new phones in the market is more effective than porting to old devices.
[14:34] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [hmm, looks like either it created the file wrong, or you copied it out of nano w …], I did copy it out of nano. The text is exactly as nano displayed it.
 @John (Marlin) [I think having a constant retail presence of new phones in the market is more ef …], unless manufacturers agree, it doesn't matter what we think; we don't have the heft to get retail devices produced and sold at provider outlets
 @John (Marlin) [I did copy it out of nano. The text is exactly as nano displayed it.], right, but there is more to the right if you scroll horizontally; which is why the `Exec=` line looks weird here. if you just `cat` the file, i bet there is more output in the terminal
[14:39] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [right, but there is more to the right if you scroll horizontally; which is why t …], You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], ok, change it to `Exec=webapp-container —webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen`
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], [Edit] ok, change it to ```Exec=webapp-container —webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen```
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], [Edit] ok, change it to … ```Exec=webapp-container —webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen```
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], [Edit] ok, change it to … ```Exec=webapp-container —webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen```
 @John (Marlin) [You are absolutely correct: … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VH8bs8SmB/], [Edit] ok, change it to … ```Exec=webapp-container --webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio.org/* https://www.byuradio.org/listen```
 grr telegram
[14:48] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [ok, change it to … Exec=webapp-container --webappUrlPatterns=http[s]?://*.byuradio …], Okay! Perfect! Now it is performing like a webapp!
 great
[14:53] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [unless manufacturers agree, it doesn't matter what we think; we don't have the h …], Initially it has to be online ordering, like the Pine store or Librem store. The main this is that a consumer have the opportunity to say, hmmm, do I want to buy iOS, Android, or Ubuntu Touch?
[14:54] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [unless manufacturers agree, it doesn't matter what we think; we don't have the h …], [Edit] Initially it has to be online ordering, like the Pine store or Librem store. The main thing is that a consumer have the opportunity to say, hmmm, do I want to buy iOS, Android, or Ubuntu Touch?
 yes but not something we can do anything about now
 all we can is do is improve UT so that manufacturers can choose between android and ubuntu toucg
 [Edit] all we can is do is improve UT so that manufacturers can choose between android and ubuntu touch
 [Edit] all we can is do is improve UT so that manufacturers can think hmm do i want to ship android or ubuntu touch
[16:05] <ubptgbot> Hendrik was added by: Hendrik
[16:11] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Fuseteam [all we can is do is improve UT so that manufacturers can think hmm do i want to …], That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pine, Librem, and Fairphone.
 @John (Marlin) [That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pin …], Is Fairphone a manufacturer committed to UT?  Did they port UT to the FP? I found https://ubuntu.com/blog/community-initiative-ubports-launches-ubuntu-fairphone-2 that reads as if FP is not involved in UT development.  Are they?
 @John (Marlin) [That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pin …], Purism will ship PureOS as default on Librem5 (they only support the possibility of other images being installed on the device). Likewise, FP only ships Android by default AFAIK, and only supports that we build images for it. Default for Pi
[16:40] <ubptgbot> nephone has not been chosen yet AFAIK
 @John (Marlin) [That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pin …], The only thing we can focus on ourselves is making UT better. Ports help, and so do new phones when manufacturers create fully open products, but our primary focus is on making UT better.
 i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday in the morning. … according to the battery indicator in the system, the battery is still at 88%. with android the phone's battery was empty after maximum 8 hours, usually 6 (the phone is also really old tbh) … im already surprised that the phone is still t
[17:01] <ubptgbot> urned on. but i wonder if 88% is really correct. this would mean the phone would last more than a week with ub touch instead of 8 hours with android 🤔
 @marissaChan [i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday …], do you have a SIM card inserted?
 @fredldotme [do you have a SIM card inserted?], nope
 that explains it. without the modem at work the device can save on the battery
 @marissaChan [i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday …], Without using mobile data or browser/webapps battery life is much better on UT than Android in my experience. With those two its worse unfortunately.
 @jonny [Without using mobile data or browser/webapps battery life is much better on UT t …], hmm 🤔
 ok
 @marissaChan [i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday …], my nexus 5 stays charged for several days with no wifi/bt/sim
 my bq E5 usually lasts a week with sim and wifi with browsing from time to time
 My N5 lasts 6-7 hours with use
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[18:44] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> How exactly convergence works on Nexus 5. I understand I need a cable to connect the phone with the monitor but what kind of cable do I need ? I can't seem to find any details about it on UBports website. Please advise.
 Hi everyone :) … I have one Nexus 7 and I am blocked on the install of ubports ^^' … I should to enable the "bootloader" and I don't know how to do :/
 (Photo, 800x634) https://irc.ubports.com/vUhy9bFa.png
 @Zak39 [Hi everyone :) … I have one Nexus 7 and I am blocked on the install of ubports ^^' …], as it says on the screen. hold power and vol dn buttons until you get the bootloader screen
 @mark alexa [How exactly convergence works on Nexus 5. I understand I need a cable to connect …], to connect to an external monitor, you need Slimport cable
 (or a MS Wireless Display Adapter, to use wireless display)
 Hello, I'm new.  … Is Nexus the best option for 'convergence'? and does it work on all models including latest release?
 @mark alexa [How exactly convergence works on Nexus 5. I understand I need a cable to connect …], https://www.amazon.com/Analogix-Semiconductor-SP6001-BlackBerry-SlimPort-Enabled/dp/B015DJ4QYI/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Nexus+5+Slim+Port&qid=1566326873&s=gateway&sr=8-2
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [to connect to an external monitor, you need Slimport cable], A slimport cable ? Ok Let me check that out.
 @amaroq [Hello, I'm new.  … Is Nexus the best option for 'convergence'? and does it work on …], "display on another screen" != "convergence". it is only one aspect of it
 Nexus devices and BQ M10 HD/FHD tablets are only currently supported devices that support wired external display
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [https://www.amazon.com/Analogix-Semiconductor-SP6001-BlackBerry-SlimPort-Enabled …], Awesome, thanks a bunch !
 @mark alexa [Awesome, thanks a bunch !], You're very welcome. I have this cable and it works very well!
[18:51] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Well, I'm getting it right away next week. If it's as great as advertised I might replace my desktop PC for it.
 mark - You will still need a true bluetooth keyboard and mouse though as the Nexus 5 does not support OTG and Slimport at the same time.
[18:52] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [mark - You will still need a true bluetooth keyboard and mouse though as the Nex …], Thanks for mentioning that !
 no micro-usb, or usb-c with usb2 devices support OTG and Slimport at same time, afaik; a few samsung devices have dual-port cables with separate usb and video connections, but that is not the same, and also not slimport
 @dohbee [as it says on the screen. hold power and vol dn buttons until you get the bootlo …], Aaah okay thank you @dohbee :)
 @mark alexa [Well, I'm getting it right away next week. If it's as great as advertised I migh …], unless you do very little on your PC, then a phone is very likely not a replacement
 @mark alexa [Thanks for mentioning that !], You're welcome. It through me for a loop at first and I figured I would help to save you a few minutes of your life (and possibly one to two extra days of amazon shipping) and a bit of frustration 😂
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [The only thing we can focus on ourselves is making UT better. Ports help, and so …], That's certainly important for keeping new people when they try it
 I see Nexus 7's are very cheap to pick up on ebay - it is very old hardware! Is it enough?? Does UBports not run on more modern hardware, too?
 @amaroq [I see Nexus 7's are very cheap to pick up on ebay - it is very old hardware! Is …], nexus 7 2012 is not supported
[18:58] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [unless you do very little on your PC, then a phone is very likely not a replacem …], I code in python and UT is shipped with Python 3.5 out of the box so I should be fine as long as I don't need develop some performance-critical programs.
 porting to newer devices is a bit problematic, especially for android 8+ devices
 @dohbee [nexus 7 2012 is not supported], Arf... How to know if my Nexus 7 isn't of 2012 ?
 Does is it normal that the launcher is always running ?
 @Zak39 [Arf... How to know if my Nexus 7 isn't of 2012 ?], if device name is flo/deb/razor it is 2013. if it's grouper it is 2012.
 (Photo, 840x1050) https://irc.ubports.com/aOGH4Hbu.png
 well if installer detected and is flashing, without manual selection, it must be 2013 model :)
 Okay, thank again @dohbee :)
 I am waiting in the nigth also :)
[19:05] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [unless you do very little on your PC, then a phone is very likely not a replacem …], Besides with 2GB of RAM I know I cant be playing GTA 4 on it.
 Props to the uAdBlock updates. Great work.
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [You're welcome. It through me for a loop at first and I figured I would help to …], The only downside that I see right off the bat is that you can't charge the phone while connected to the external monitor 'coz the only port is in use. 😃
 @mark alexa [The only downside that I see right off the bat is that you can't charge the phon …], One second...
 @mark alexa [The only downside that I see right off the bat is that you can't charge the phon …], there are some cables which will charge the phone as well, but you can't use USB along with video
[19:14] <ubptgbot> bug456 was added by: bug456
 @mark alexa [The only downside that I see right off the bat is that you can't charge the phon …], https://www.amazon.com/kwmobile-SlimPort-Smartphones-Connects-Smartphone/dp/B00U3XNTAM/ref=sr_1_18?crid=1OESLZ642LENQ&keywords=slimport+micro+usb+to+hdmi+adapter&qid=1566328435&s=gateway&sprefix=Slimport+,aps,144&sr=8-18
 mark - and half the price!
 mark - hope that's helpful.
[19:21] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [mark - hope that's helpful.], You've been a blessing man 😉
 @mark alexa [You've been a blessing man 😉], You're welcome. Enjoy blowing the average person's mind and having a truly portable python programming work station 😁
[19:23] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @davidsrodriguez [You're welcome. Enjoy blowing the average person's mind and having a truly porta …], AMEN ! ⌨🖲📱
 @Zak39 [Arf... How to know if my Nexus 7 isn't of 2012 ?], My only caution is that the 2013 LTE model (deb) does not have Bluetooth or camera working for it currently.
 @marissaChan [i flashed ub touch on my phone yesterday. and i didnt charge it since yesterday …], mine nearly flatlines with airplane mode on
 I am sorry for the unpleasantness
 Is it normal that ubports installer is always flashing images ?
 (Photo, 840x1050) https://irc.ubports.com/d0Cl6An1.png
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 you have 2012 nexus 7, which is not supported
 so it can't flsh
 [Edit] so it can't flash
 `PRODUCT NAME - grouper` <- 2012
 Arf damned :/
 Okay, I bought for nothing :/
 Do you know how I can start on Android ? ^^'
 just reboot it. use volume keys to select "restart" and power button to activate
 When I boot it. It's write "Booting failed"
 you can get OEM image from google and follow instructions in it, or get lineageos or other ROM and follow their instructions to flash
 lineageos doesn't support this tablet :/
 I try find the OEM image for Nexus 7
[20:01] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Who's looking after security for UT ?
 everyone
 see something, say something, i guess
 @mark alexa [Who's looking after security for UT ?], too generic, what exactly do you mean
 Someone can he help me to find the latest image for nexus 7 2012 ?
 @Zak39 [Someone can he help me to find the latest image for nexus 7 2012 ?], https://developers.google.com/android/images#nakasi
 I don't find it
 Oh ! Thank @minimec :)
[20:07] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @Flohack [too generic, what exactly do you mean], I'm aware of the fact that UT have userbase around 1800 people (give or take) but all platforms spend great deal of time on protecting the devices against malware or malicious paps that somebody may upload to app store. Again, I know I'm talking about Ubuntu Touch here, however Ubuntu i
[20:07] <ubptgbot> s well known for being the most secure OS. Does UBports have team who focuses on security issues concerning UT ?
 Do you think that the product name "nakasi" is compatible with my tablet (its product name is "grouper") ? … https://developers.google.com/android/images#nakasi
[20:09] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> In other words if somebody with malicious intent uploads dodgy code to the codebase is there any internal built-in antivirus that puts dodgy code into quarantine ?
[20:12] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> I bet now you know yup need to be very careful about what to say to that haha.
[20:12] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Not to worry, the last thing I want is to put all your hard work in vain. I respect your work.
 @mark alexa [In other words if somebody with malicious intent uploads dodgy code to the codeb …], I guess it's more like... Once there is a change in the codebase on githuub, the maintainers will have a look at it and then say... WTF!!! ;)
 Ubuntu Touch applications are confined using apparmor. They should not be able to access any data outside of that explicity allowed to them
[20:15] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @UniversalSuperBox [Ubuntu Touch applications are confined using apparmor. They should not be able t …], In other words. Unless you give potentially dangerous app access to the rest of the phone's system it can't harm it.
 The system was designed with an open application store in mind, where you cannot have trust in the maintainers of the store or applications to always do what they say they do.
 Camera, microphone, and location access will be asked for. Other permissions are listed on the application's store page
 Applications which take too many permissions or are "unconfined" must be manually reviewed by OpenStore staff
 Not a perfect process, but reduces risk.
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @UniversalSuperBox [Not a perfect process, but reduces risk.], I see.
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @UniversalSuperBox [Applications which take too many permissions or are "unconfined" must be manuall …], This must be the first time I'm hearing about Open Store staff.
 It's basically just Brian. The link to the group for asking for that kind of review is at the bottom of the open store website
[20:19] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> By the end of the year I intent to start pitching in to support development of UT. I bet it will be money well spent.
 Well, thank you in advance. :D
[20:20] <ubptgbot> ogogon was added by: ogogon
 @Zak39 [Do you think that the product name "nakasi" is compatible with my tablet (its pr …], yes, nakasi is the right image
 @mark alexa [In other words if somebody with malicious intent uploads dodgy code to the codeb …], code to system components is reviewed, and we also receive security fixes via Ubuntu updates for many parts in the lower levels of the system
[20:28] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [code to system components is reviewed, and we also receive security fixes via Ub …], UT is based on Ubuntu 16.04 code base which is supported till 2021 if I'm not wrong. Would be interesting to observe how the UT codebase is being updated to newer version.
[20:56] <ubptgbot> erdzas was added by: erdzas
 @mark alexa [UT is based on Ubuntu 16.04 code base which is supported till 2021 if I'm not wr …], yes, we're currently on 16.04 base, which is supported until April 2021
[21:29] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Is UT community on Mastodon ?
 @John (Marlin) [That will take a lot longer. Thankfully we have committed manufacturers like Pin …], actually that will probably happen first before we'll even reach average consumer
 @mark alexa [Is UT community on Mastodon ?], yes
 iirc
 Hi everyone, someone tried to install Ubuntu touch on a Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime?
 It is not supported
 thanks.