[00:23] <vellu> anyone wanna chat?
[00:23] <vellu> about anything
[00:24] <vellu> what irc client are you guys using?
[00:29] <vellu> i love debian based systems
[00:32] <vellu> what should i do with screen tearing, i have an intel 620 graphics
[00:40] <^_^guest> after updating from ubuntu 16 to 18, wget broke and does not verify certificates anymore
[00:49] <oft_gegong> !18.10
[00:50] <oft_gegong> waaaaaah
[00:50] <oft_gegong> why did I install 18.10. I am so stupid
[00:51] <farcas82regreg> hello
[00:51] <vellu> hello
[00:51] <farcas82regreg> how do i install java8?
[00:51] <vellu> whats up
[00:52] <farcas82regreg> i think i have java11
[00:52] <farcas82regreg> i need java8 for a legacy application
[00:52] <oft_gegong> java11 runs java8 programs. oooooooh
[00:52] <farcas82regreg> the application checks for java8
[00:52] <oft_gegong> you gotta go to java.com and get the tarball
[00:52] <farcas82regreg> it's the thinkorswim client
[00:52] <farcas82regreg> ok, going to java.com then
[00:52] <vellu> http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/07/31/install-oracle-java-8-9-ubuntu-16-04-linux-mint-18/
[00:53] <farcas82regreg> javac -version
[00:53] <farcas82regreg> javac 1.8.0_222
[00:54] <farcas82regreg> openjdk 11.0.4 2019-07-16
[00:54] <farcas82regreg> does this make sense?
[00:55] <farcas82regreg> how do i uninstall my existing java versions?
[00:56] <farcas82regreg> i want to install only the downloaded jre-8u221-linux-x64.tar.gz
[01:56] <vellu> hello again
[01:57] <vellu> anyone wanna chat?
[01:59] <Bashing-om> vellu: Ubuntu support here - chat is the #ubuntu-offtopic channel :)
[02:18] <CarlFK> just upgraded to bionic - where did the app menu's go?  like firefox's ?
[02:19] <CarlFK> hmm .. I see a hamburger menu - is that everything?
[02:19] <YWH_1> linus torvald said he had trouble installing debian & ubuntu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHGTs1NSB1s
[02:20] <CarlFK> I made that :)
[02:30] <ciby> ok i missed any replies i might have gotten, what is acpi_osi and what am i supposed to do to make sleep mode work for ubuntu
[02:37] <ciby> well i think someone linked me something about it and i opened it in a new tab without realizing.. ok
[02:46] <vellu> anyone wanna chat?
[03:00] <magic_ninja> vellu, try ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <BeepBeepJeep> You need to calm down...
[03:39] <CarlFK> how do I get the clock on my status bar?  bionic
[03:47] <BeepBeepJeep> gnome?
[03:47] <BeepBeepJeep> should be in settings or install gnome-tweak-tool
[03:51] <Joit> hello. why do adding ppa's still not working at a fresh installed 18.04 ?
[03:51] <bug_sniper> adding ppa's works just fine for me
[03:51] <CarlFK> BeepBeep - bingo. thank you
[03:52] <bug_sniper> on 18.04
[03:52] <BeepBeepJeep> No, Problem.
[03:52] <Joit> ty bug, what   the heck then is wrong at my installtion
[03:52] <Joit> did you install any other packages then the standard one ?
[03:53] <bug_sniper> I didn't need to
[03:53] <bug_sniper> I just copy the command to add them, and put sudo in front of it
[03:53] <Joit> for me it spits out this openssl error, what is mentioned at some pages
[03:54] <bug_sniper> that's not normal
[03:54] <Joit> even i formated / at a seperate partition
[03:54] <CarlFK> BeepBeepJeep: er... gnome-tweaks has "Top Bar: clock - date:yes" but there is no date or clock on my top bar
[03:54] <Joit> i had a 12.04 on that hdd, but installing 18.04 gives me the error
[03:54] <BeepBeepJeep> If you also install gnome-clock you can use world clocks too
[03:55] <CarlFK> bug_sniper:  paste the command and results  to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <bug_sniper> Joit, ^
[03:56] <Joit> it wasnt me! that was this bot
[03:56] <CarlFK> er, right.
[03:57] <CarlFK> BeepBeepJeep: gnome-clocks gives me a big clock in a window
[03:58] <Joit> bug, when did you get 18.04. maybe its the iso what i did download
[03:58] <bug_sniper> https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=US&version=18.04.3&architecture=amd64
[03:59] <BeepBeepJeep> If you ass different clocks you can add them, ps i commend you effort at trying to get me to take a screenshot at that specific time, very clever borderline nazis
[03:59]  * BeepBeepJeep tolerance for BS is at an all time low
[04:00] <Joit> bug ty, but my iso says the same, 18.04.3
[04:01] <bug_sniper> I never thought of timezones as sensitive information, especially when there's no good way to link irc identities
[04:02] <Joit> um what? i can not follow yo on that
[04:03] <CarlFK> oh hell.. the clock is now in the middle of the bar.  doh.
[04:04] <BeepBeepJeep> Thanks GC for pointing out that Comcast ip.
[04:04]  * BeepBeepJeep writes off an entire continent! Mexico, You aight!
[04:05] <bug_sniper> joit, why don't you go ahead and paste your command and results to http://paste.ubuntu.com and maybe we'll figure something out
[04:07] <Joit> because i was thinking about, if there is another solution at my home dir. the only information i found was at this post, where they said, its a conflict with openssl. not more  pages about that
[04:07] <Joit> and usually, if noone want more informations, i dont give it
[04:07] <Joit> but i can go past that
[04:07] <bug_sniper> I'm not very good at fixing linux problems
[04:08] <bug_sniper> someone else can use the command output
[04:09] <Joit> yes, i forgot it also, its ixinc or something
[04:09] <Joit> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mGhr6xgsrH/
[04:10] <Joit> its about the same like here, but this solution does not work for me https://serverfault.com/questions/975527/ssl-support-not-available-ubuntu-18-04-ppa-repository
[04:11] <CarlFK> post the command you typed and all the output
[04:11] <Joit> for now i renamed the directorys, and not deleting, but still nothing
[04:11] <Joit> this carlfk is a bot?
[04:12] <CarlFK> im not a bot
[04:12] <Joit> ah ok, you did look like
[04:12] <Joit> srry :D
[04:12] <bug_sniper> sudo apt remove openssl & install openssl
[04:12] <bug_sniper> not sure if that's what to do
[04:13] <Joit> sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:teejee2008/ppa
[04:13] <Joit> i  think i did that already
[04:13] <bug_sniper> https://websiteforstudents.com/manually-install-the-latest-openssl-toolkit-on-ubuntu-16-04-18-04-lts/
[04:13] <bug_sniper> maybe that's the way to go
[04:14] <Joit> err not really, when i try to do that, it will deinstall a wide part of my installation includin kde and xserver
[04:15] <Joit> bit strange, when you have to manually install ssl at a new release at a distro
[04:16] <Joit> i did a sudp apt install --reinstall from openssl thats it
[04:17] <CarlFK> Joit: works for me... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kCyXkghF22/
[04:18] <Joit> ty carl. whyyy then not for me
[04:19] <Joit> did you have a previous older home folder, what you did use for your installation from 18.04?
[04:24] <Joit> @carlfk
[04:27] <CarlFK> Joit: just upgraded from 16.04
[04:31] <Joit> CarlFK:  well, i had before mint 18 at xenial base. but still, my / is formatted, and nothing should been lef, seems that the ubuntu installation did make this old ssl folder
[04:31] <Joit> left
[05:01] <CarlFK> sudo apt install vim ... vim : Depends: libpython3.6 (>= 3.6.5) but it is not going to be installed;   E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[05:02] <CarlFK> libpython3.6 : Depends: libpython3.6-stdlib (= 3.6.8-1~18.04.1) but 3.6.9-1+xenial1 is to be installed
[05:04] <CarlFK> what is  3.6.9-1+xenial1 ?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: sudo apt autoremove
[05:06] <CarlFK> lotuspsychje: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[05:06] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: "3.6.9-1+xenial1" A PPA ? what shows - in a pastebin ' apt policy 3.6.9-1+xenial1  ' ?
[05:07] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: To see what should be ' apt list <package> ; apt show <package> .
[05:09] <CarlFK> N: Unable to locate package 3.6.9-1+xenial1
[05:09] <CarlFK> sudo apt full-upgrade ...  following packages have been kept back:   gdb gir1.2-peas-1.0 libpeas-1.0-0 qml-module-io-thp-pyotherside
[05:09] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Sorry ' apt policy libpython3.6-stdlib
[05:11] <CarlFK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J8dn5wp5q8/
[05:11] <CarlFK>   
[05:12] <Joit> CarlFK:  you can resolve the problem with synaptic by relove conflicts
[05:12] <Joit> by resolve
[05:13] <Joit> then you can do the full upgrade
[05:13] <CarlFK> I've heard of synaptic - what is it?   or where?
[05:13] <Joit> it should be down at edit at menu list
[05:14] <Joit> it s another package manager
[05:14] <Joit> sudo apt install synaptic
[05:14] <Joit> something like muon
[05:14] <Joit> they only removed it, because its able to deinstll the wholee system, because of the depencies
[05:15] <Bashing-om> !info libpython3.6-stdlib bionic | CarlFK
[05:15] <Joit> but apt can do the same, and 2nd ,you allwayss see what he rreemoves, when you deinstall a package
[05:15] <Joit> but when you have defect packages, its an easy way to resolve the problem, that you can update again
[05:16] <coffeecow> anyone have any luck streaming their ubuntu screen to an xbox one?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: ^^ What release are you running ' lsb_release -a ' ?
[05:17] <CarlFK> Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS
[05:17] <gambl0re> hi guys, when i connect to external monitor how do i make the monitor the primary display so that it shows the panel?
[05:17] <gambl0re> i tried setting the monitor as primary display in display settings but the panel is still showing up on my laptop
[05:17] <gambl0re> any help thanks?
[05:18] <CarlFK> Joit: im looking at synaptic - how do I repair?
[05:18] <Joit> edit - fix broken packages
[05:19] <Joit> thats all
[05:19] <Joit> at top
[05:19] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Back one level ' what shows ' apt policy libpython3.6 ' ?
[05:19] <CarlFK> Joit:  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[05:19] <Joit> ugh, i had a page open for that
[05:19] <Joit> you need to purge the packages
[05:20] <Joit> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-to-fix-broken-package-904637/
[05:20] <CarlFK> Bashing-om:  apt policy libpython3.6 ...   Installed: (none)
[05:22] <Joit> sudo apt-get install purge (broken dependancy goes here). just read before, what it then uninstall, before you hit y
[05:24] <Joit> that time, its on my side, what works to install vim
[05:25] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Humm odd .. but what results ' sudo apt install libpython3.6 ' ?
[05:25] <Joit> without any problem
[05:26] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   libpython3.6 : Depends: libpython3.6-stdlib (= 3.6.8-1~18.04.1) but 3.6.9-1+xenial1 is to be installed
[05:27] <fructose> gambl0re: It may not be any help, but a lot of laptops have hardware switches that change display. Worth checking if you don't know better.
[05:27] <gambl0re> fructose, i was able to move the panel to the external monitor in panel settings
[05:28] <gambl0re> but when i disconnect the hdmi the panel doesnt automatically move back to the laptop
[05:28] <gambl0re> you know how to fix this?
[05:28] <gambl0re> thanks
[05:28] <Bashing-om> !info python3.6 bionic
[05:28] <fructose> gambl0re: I don't, but sounds like the kind of thing worth searching the forum about
[05:29] <gambl0re> which forum
[05:29] <CarlFK> Joit:  sudo apt-get purge libpython3.6-stdlib ... 299 to remove nope nope nope nope..
[05:29] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: ^^ what have you for ' apt policy python3.6 ' ?
[05:29] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: Installed: 3.6.9-1+xenial1
[05:29] <fructose> gambl0re: Ubuntu forums, fortums for your desktop environment, or just Google and see if any forums pop up
[05:30] <gambl0re> i tried already which is why im asking here
[05:31] <omega_doom> hello!
[05:31] <Joit> CarlFK:  mine is 3.6.8-1~18.04.1. Someone mentioned, that you have maybe old ppa'S from xenial still activated. maybe you turn them off for a moment and update again ?
[05:32] <omega_doom> Can someone tell if /etc/resove.conf is a hard or a soft link?
[05:32] <omega_doom> /etc/resolv.conf
[05:32] <fructose> gambl0re: Strange, sounds like that'd be a common feature. In any case, there is likely a channel for your desktop environment and you could ask there too. You can also keep asking here, I just don't happen to know myself.
[05:33] <gambl0re> i just created two panels one for each display
[05:34] <gambl0re> i dont know if its the right solution but i think it should work
[05:34] <gambl0re> thanks
[05:34] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: omega_doom "ls -al /etc/resolv.conf >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Apr  3  2018 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf" .
[05:35] <omega_doom> tnanks!
[05:36] <Bashing-om> omega_doom: That with 18.04 and network-manager as the renderer.
[05:36] <gambl0re> fructose, nevermind i got it working the proper way
[05:36] <gambl0re> thanks
[05:37] <gambl0re> now the panel is showing on the external monitor whenever the hdmi is connected, and when disconected panel moves back to laptop
[05:37] <gambl0re> thanks
[05:38] <Joit> CarlFK:  deactivate your ppa's right now, ie at synaptic? its easy there too
[05:38] <omega_doom> I'm still wondering why when i delete /etc/resolv.conf and created link to /run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf then after reboot /run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf is missing.
[05:39] <CarlFK> Joit: I deleted them all and sudo apt update - I can add them back if I need to
[05:39] <Joit> deactivate is enough i think
[05:40] <CarlFK> sure - but rm * was quicker ;)
[05:40] <Joit> then sudo apt clean sudo apt upate sudo apt upgrade?
[05:41] <Joit> to clean the apt list and renew the depencies list
[05:42] <CarlFK> Joit: no help https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xrphMPPNN7/
[05:44] <Joit> apt reinstall python3.6 ?
[05:44] <Joit> apt install --reinstall reinstall python3.6 ?
[05:45] <CarlFK> woah - never seen this before: Reinstallation of python3.6 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[05:45] <Joit> apt install --reinstall reinstall python?
[05:46] <CarlFK> less reinstalls:  sudo apt install --reinstall python3.6
[05:46] <Joit> maybe a typo at phyton instead of python?
[05:47] <CarlFK> where do you see phyton  ?
[05:48] <ayekat> the package is called python3
[05:48] <Joit> i did write that a few times ,and figured, it was a typo
[05:48] <Joit> but python3.6 reinstalls for me without a problem
[05:49] <ayekat> ah wait, ignore me, there is also a python3.6 package (at least for 18.04 and 18.10)
[05:49] <CarlFK> ayekat: too late : Setting up python3 (3.6.7-1~18.04) ...
[05:49] <CarlFK> but still can't install vim :p
[05:50] <ayekat> what's the error?
[05:50] <CarlFK> im : Depends: libpython3.6 (>= 3.6.5) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[05:50] <Joit> broken depencies
[05:51] <Joit>   <CarlFK> libpython3.6 : Depends: libpython3.6-stdlib (= 3.6.8-1~18.04.1) but 3.6.9-1+xenial1 is to be installed
[05:52] <Ben64> yeah that sounds like ppa problem
[05:53] <CarlFK> I deleted all the PPAs.  I did just upgrade from 16.04 a few hours ago
[05:55] <Ben64> deleted how
[05:55] <CarlFK>  /etc/apt/sources.list.d$ sudo rm *
[05:56] <Ben64> oof
[05:56] <Ben64> that's not correct
[05:58] <omega_doom> Bashing-om: Shouldn't it point to run/NetworkManager/resolve.conf in 18.4? I also have 18.04 and i cannot find /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf
[05:58] <CarlFK> nothing intersting in apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bWNmHJKZnT/
[06:02] <Joit> CarlFK: and still  apt update and apt upgrade does not work ?
[06:03] <Bashing-om> omega_doom: Desktop mchine ? as " sysop@x1804mini:~$ ls -al /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf >> -rw-r--r-- 1 systemd-resolve systemd-resolve 715 Aug 19 19:31 /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf ".
[06:03] <Joit> CarlFK:  can you look at he packet sources again at synaptic, if they are still there, uncheck them and refresh?
[06:04] <Joit> at the packet sources
[06:08] <Bashing-om> !netplan | omega_doom
[06:13] <CarlFK> Joit: no ppas, just the ubuntu ones.
[06:35] <Joit> CarlFK:  refresh via synaptic
[06:35] <Joit> ?
[06:41] <CarlFK> Joit: what is refresh?
[06:42] <Joit> refresh the list
[06:42] <Joit> same like apt update
[06:42] <Joit> left side
[06:42] <Joit> at the menu fro synaptic
[06:43] <CarlFK> reload?
[06:43] <Joit> yep
[06:43] <CarlFK> done
[06:44] <Joit> now try again update at console if it still has broken depencies or try at synaptic
[06:45] <Joit> wasnt there a command still apt install --fix-broken?
[06:45] <CarlFK> I haven't changed anything sense the last time we tired tha
[06:46] <CarlFK> sudo apt install --fix-broken ... 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
[06:46] <CarlFK> 19?
[06:46] <Joit> yes still the one what left behind
[06:47] <Joit> try apt upgrade?
[06:47] <CarlFK> dem pesky people over in -dev are updating stuff ;)
[06:47] <Joit> yes really
[06:48] <CarlFK> sudo apt upgrade .. installed some stuff.. sudo apt install vim  still vim : Depends: libpython3.6 (>= 3.6.5) but it is not going to be installed
[06:57] <Joit> CarlFK:  now apt install -f?
[06:59] <CarlFK> Joit: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[07:00] <CarlFK> in the past apt has suggested that as a fix when a previous install was interrupted.    so a  little not surprised nothing happened now
[07:02] <dionysus69> ok so, I have 18.04 and my touchpad has a weird behavior, slowish and slugish plus when I suspend laptop and wake it up, scroll stops working
[07:02] <dionysus69> then I found this fix online sudo modprobe psmouse -r; sudo modprobe psmouse
[07:02] <dionysus69> which makes scroll fix + overall touchpad function better
[07:02] <Joit> and dist-upgrade  still gives an error?
[07:02] <dionysus69> how do I run this on every kind of startup
[07:03] <CarlFK> sudo apt dist-upgrade ... The following packages have been kept back:    gdb gir1.2-peas-1.0 libpeas-1.0-0 qml-module-io-thp-pyotherside 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[07:06] <Joit> i still think there is something with your list of depencies broken, but i do not find anything how to renew that, but i think there is something, if even not a package
[07:08] <Joit> CarlFK:  this ? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13565082/how-can-i-force-gradle-to-redownload-dependencies
[07:08] <CarlFK> I think when I had xenial  I installed something that is a newer version than what is in bionic or something divergent
[07:09] <CarlFK> dionysus69: I think you want systemd - I'm kinda famailar with this, which runs when a usb device is detected:
[07:09] <CarlFK> https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-video-team/ansible/blob/master/roles/opsis-ingest/files/videoteam-ingest.path
[07:10] <CarlFK> if your trackpad is "detected" when  the laptop comes out of sleep, thats what you want
[07:11] <Joit> CarlFK:  well, with the new installation there should come a new depnecies list and not made fromthe old files
[07:19] <Joit> CarlFK:  https://serverfault.com/questions/368669/debian-ubuntu-is-it-possible-to-reinitialize-var-lib-apt-lists-and-var-apt-cac
[07:22] <Joit> and after that carefully maybe a apt-cache gencache https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/apt/apt-cache/
[07:54] <CarlFK> Joit: im calling it quits for tonight - thanks for helping
[07:55] <Joit> CarlFK:  good night much luck
[07:56] <nd__> Aloha, how can I get wireguard's wg0 interface to start after reboot on 18.04? I tried `systemctl enable wg-quick@wg0`, wg0 is created/exists but has no ip. I tried a .yaml file in /etc/netplan, then the device is not even created. I tried /etc/interfaces.d…, which doesn't seem to work at all. What's the way today?
[08:31] <bastiaan> someone knows where I can file a bug for the nvidia graphic drivers?
[08:31] <bastiaan> I find it quite unworkable that I need to run kernel 5.0.0 on ubuntu 18.04 LTS in order to use these drivers
[08:32] <bastiaan> it seems to be a dicision made by the “Graphics Drivers” team
[08:35] <bastiaan> or is there any other way to ask them questions to try to resolve my problem?
[08:57] <bastiaan> OK, sollution seems to be to select another nvidia-driver-415 package (instead of 418)
[09:13] <TheChance> Okay. All I'm trying to do is install ANY recent version via debootstrap. somebody please tell me exactly in plain english wtf i am supposed to do with this nonsense netplan crock of fml
[09:13] <TheChance> because the "use this snippet" on the netplan site doesn't work and of course i have to read back through a python traceback every time "netplan try" errors out and holy hell, people, ubuntu used to be easy to set up
[09:34] <dan01> Back a few years ago when Novell was trying to sell HP laptops with SLED 10-11 they've inclduded a reocvery partition, just like Apple Macs have today? Is that also present in laptops preinstalled with Ubuntu?
[10:57] <beaver^> hi
[10:57] <beaver^> beaver@beaver-laptop:~$ nc -zv old-releases.ubuntu.com 80
[10:57] <beaver^> nc: connect to old-releases.ubuntu.com port 80 (tcp) failed: Connection timed out
[10:57] <Habbie> beaver^, same here
[10:57] <beaver^> ok thank you
[10:59] <Simounet> Hi there, is anybody know where the acpu mod for php7.3 is? I can't find it since the upgrade from 7.2.
[11:00] <Simounet> *apcu
[11:02] <sonOfRa> Simounet: probably not packaged yet? I'm on disco, and that doesn't even have php 7.3 yet.
[11:03] <Pricey> Simounet: Not want it from pecl?
[11:05] <Simounet> Pricey, I'm used to http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php/ubuntu ppa.
[11:13] <sonOfRa> Probably will have to ask the PPA owner then
[11:24] <beaver^> it works again
[11:24] <beaver^> Connection to old-releases.ubuntu.com 80 port [tcp/http] succeeded!
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:40] <plouj> Hi, I'm upgrading from Cosmic to Disco and do-release-upgrade said: "No longer supported: python-pycurl .... Installing python-pycurl"...How am I supposed to understand that? Why is pycurl all of the sudden not supported on Disco?
[12:41] <ioria> !info python-pycurl disco
[12:41] <plouj> As far as I can tell python-pycurl *is* still supported in Disco: https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/python-pycurl so I'm confused
[12:42] <ioria> plouj, it was in Main before, now in Universe
[12:43] <plouj> ioria: Oh, I see.
[12:43] <ioria> !info python-pycurl
[12:45] <diskin> I was sure that BogoMIPS value can't be smaller on a newer, more powerful CPU. But just saw 4788.69 on i3-4000M CPU @ 2.40GHz, while on i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz it showed 3984.00 BogoMIPS. Is it correct?
[12:45] <Habbie> diskin, bogomips is not a measure of performance
[12:46] <Habbie> diskin, in your case, it seems to match the GHz frequency quite nicely for both (times two)
[12:47] <diskin> Habbie, but the i7 has 8 cores, while i3 only 4
[12:47] <Habbie> diskin, bogomips is a single core measurement
[12:47] <Habbie> diskin, that, again, means -nothing- for performance
[12:48] <diskin> I see. Thanks Habbie.
[12:48] <Habbie> diskin, this is a good read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BogoMips
[13:10] <qwebirc98996> Hi, I'm wondering if Ubuntu's repositories are currently broken for some packages. I'm having this problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1167082/cannot-install-postgresql-server-dev-all . Any idea if I can manage to get the package installed?
[13:11] <qwebirc98996> basically i'm getting this error:  The following packages have unmet dependencies: libpq-dev : Depends: libpq5 (= 11.2-1) but 11.5-0ubuntu0.19.04.1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[13:16] <ayekat> qwebirc98996: is that 32-bit ubuntu?
[13:17] <ayekat> I can't quite make sense of the dependencies stated at https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/libpq-dev, but I read it as "for i386, depends on both 11.2 and 11.5"  ¯\(°_o)/¯
[13:17] <ayekat> (or maybe it's "either X or Y"...?)
[13:19] <plouj> Thanks
[13:25] <dan01> ayekat: Guess so, that would make sense. Otherwise what... you use a feature fro 11.2 and another from 11.5?
[13:25] <dan01>  ¯\(°_o)/¯
[13:25] <dan01> love it
[13:25] <dan01> ayekat: Where do you get them from?
[13:26] <ayekat> dan01: I don't know, I don't currently have an ubuntu under my nose, I'm just looking at the web interface for packages.ubuntu.com and being confused by how the information is displayed
[13:26] <ayekat> (or rather that both packages are marked with [… i386 …])
[13:26] <dan01> ayekat: Are you on windows? Shame on you!
[13:26] <ayekat> dan01: and... just playing around with different symbols ^^
[13:27] <dan01> ayekat: ah, ok.
[13:27] <ayekat> ... there's more out there than just ubuntu and windows
[13:41] <cluelessperson> I'm on 5.0.0-25-generic #26-Ubuntu SMP, 19.04, and I'm running into two annoying bugs I'm not sure how to fix.
[13:42] <cluelessperson> 1.   machine randomly hard freezes, not sure if it's just video, I suppose I can try to login over ssh next time it happens.
[13:42] <cluelessperson> 2. syslogs are filled with these: `org.gnome.Shell.desktop[1401]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 37 with keysym 37 (keycode 10).`
[13:43] <dionysus69> I need to solve this problem this drives me crazy, my audio on my laptop went down both on internal speakers And on bluetooth connected audio device too
[13:43] <dionysus69> the aux cable connection still transmits fine audio in earphones
[13:44] <dionysus69> I am dealing with this for months already can you help me diagnose
[13:45] <youtah> Why the freak do I keep getting bumped to the other channel?! This nick is registered and I have identified
[13:47] <hggdh> youtah: calm down
[13:47] <cluelessperson> youtah  depends on many things.
[13:48] <youtah> lol, you answered in the other channel before this one hggdh
[13:48] <ayekat> youtah: one possibility is your client/bouncer might be trying to connect to #ubuntu before it has identified with NickServ (can happen if you don't use SASL, if I understood that correctly)
[13:49] <youtah> hasn't bumped me for a bit... so I am thinking I am in the clear
[13:50] <cluelessperson> Uninstalling caffeine, seeing if it's that.
[13:50] <omega_doom> hello. I have freezes when i play music. Ubuntu 18.04. Can anyone help me to figure out the cause?
[13:50] <youtah> omega_doom, did you just upgrade?
[13:50] <youtah> I just upgraded last night from 18.04.2 to .3 and it basically nuked all of my local settings
[13:50] <omega_doom> youtah: what do you mean?
[13:50] <cluelessperson> omega_doom  I'm having freezes while playing vlc video.  related.
[13:51] <youtah> and now none of my audio works
[13:51] <cluelessperson> youtah  I generally suggest people backup their personal stuff and just reinstall.
[13:51] <youtah> Spotify, Chrome (youtube), etc is all muerto
[13:52] <cluelessperson> I think it's important to have the user's stuff in a well defined location where it's easy to backup/move, and easily recreate the system
[13:52] <youtah> cluelessperson, I am about there. It really messed something up. I tried creating a second user account, that didn't solve it either.
[13:52] <dionysus69> so can anyone help with low audio volume? alsamixer pavucontrol are both at 100%
[13:52] <omega_doom> I have Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS.
[13:52] <cluelessperson> dionysus69 low audio volume through/out what?
[13:52] <cluelessperson> need details people
[13:52] <omega_doom> But freezes were even before.
[13:53] <cluelessperson> your hdmi TV? internal speakers?  headphones? usb audio?
[13:53] <hggdh> folks, youtah knows already what to do, I told him in a different channel. Let's go back to topic please
[13:53] <dionysus69> cluelessperson: internal speakers & bluetooth connected device
[13:53] <dionysus69> internal speaker sound is reduced 2/3 times, bluetooth connected device sound is reduced by 10 times at least
[13:53] <ayekat> hggdh: I don't think they're talking about their IRC issue anymore
[13:53] <cluelessperson> dionysus69  I've experienced low volume on bluetooth devices as well, as for internal speakers, you'll want to check the application volume, the system volume, in that order.
[13:53] <dionysus69> it's like on minimum possible volume when 100%
[13:53] <hggdh> ayekat: ah, sorry then
[13:54] <dionysus69> cluelessperson: I did check both pavucontrol and alsamixer are both 100%
[13:54] <cluelessperson> dionysus69  that's system volume, basically.
[13:54] <cluelessperson> and I think they control the same settings.
[13:54] <dionysus69> cluelessperson: is there no other place that maybe misconfigured?, of course clementine is also at 100%
[13:55] <cluelessperson> dionysus69 what audio hardware?
[13:55] <dionysus69> I dont know I have thinkpad x1 carbon 3rd gen
[13:56] <cluelessperson> dionysus69   I have the thinkpad x1 carbon 3rd gen too.  beautiful machine.  I have a Yoga X1 in the mail right now too. :)
[13:56] <dionysus69> haha nice
[13:56] <dionysus69> should be cool
[13:56] <cluelessperson> I have bluetooth issues here with volume, but internal speakers have always been perfect
[13:56] <dionysus69> next time I am aiming for workstation but its too expensive to change laptop :P
[13:56] <cluelessperson> dionysus69  if you pull up youtube, is the audio level acceptable there?
[13:57] <dionysus69> no
[13:57] <dionysus69> nowhere
[13:57] <dionysus69> it is not application dependent
[13:57] <dionysus69> its like some mysterious kernel volume controller is lowered
[13:57] <cluelessperson> dionysus69  I use a simple/sleek/minimal interface, and do heavy lifting on servers. :)
[13:58] <cluelessperson> dionysus69  so, things are often relative.  Ubuntu has an option to amplify the volume even further.  Have you tried that?
[13:58] <dionysus69> so when you say you have same laptop model, is audio ok for you?
[13:59] <cluelessperson> yeah, apart from over bluetooth, audio level is perfect, but I often have to use the over-amplification.
[13:59] <cluelessperson> right now I have an air conditioner running right behind me
[13:59] <dionysus69> when I go over 100% the sound gets distorted, as if the speaker is about to burn but the volume is not high even then, also I changed speakers on these laptop as one of them got out of life
[14:00] <dionysus69> that's why I don't use overamplification anymore
[14:01] <cluelessperson> dionysus69  wait, you replaced the speakers, and now it's too quiet?  Is there anything about how you installed them?
[14:01] <dionysus69> no no they were fine after I swapped them
[14:01] <dionysus69> they got lowered at the same time bluetooth connected speaker got lowered
[14:01] <dionysus69> so it's not fault of internal speakers
[14:01] <cluelessperson> dionysus69  oh! interesting, let me try that hre.
[14:02] <dionysus69> it had to be a kernel or something program related
[14:02] <cluelessperson> I never tried to listen to internal speakers while bluetooth was connected.
[14:02] <dionysus69> no I never did that
[14:02] <dionysus69> has option for virtual outputs but has glitches
[14:02] <cluelessperson>  >they got lowered at the same time bluetooth connected speaker got lowered
[14:02] <cluelessperson> ?
[14:02] <dionysus69> not the same time they were playing but separately
[14:03] <dionysus69> the same day I mean
[14:06] <cluelessperson> actually, bluetooth and internal speakers here are now perfect for me
[14:10] <cluelessperson> dionysus69  sorry, I'm at a loss currently
[14:35] <ryouba> hi
[14:35] <ryouba> is there a public PXE server IP for ubuntu?
[14:37] <leftyfb> ryouba: no
[14:37] <ryouba> thank you leftyfb!
[14:37] <ryouba> bye
[14:40] <cluelessperson> A public PXE server sounds dangerous
[14:41] <lordcirth> Yeah, let's install our OS over TFTP from the internet! :P
[14:44] <nd__> Aloha, how can I get wireguard's wg0 interface to start after reboot on 18.04? I tried `systemctl enable wg-quick@wg0`, wg0 is created/exists but has no ip. I tried a .yaml file in /etc/netplan, then the device is not even created. I tried /etc/interfaces.d…, which doesn't seem to work at all. What's the way today?
[14:46] <lordcirth> nd__, did you edit /etc/wireguard/wg0.conf?
[14:48] <nd__> lordcirth: yes
[14:49] <lordcirth> nd__, does 'systemctl status wg-quick@wg0' say anything useful?
[14:50] <leftyfb> lordcirth: to be fair, you would only need to get ephemeral image over tftp over the internet :)
[14:51] <nd__> lordcirth: Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/wg-quick@.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled); Active: active (exited) since Tue 2019-08-20 16:50:33 CEST; 4s ago
[14:51] <nd__> lordcirth: `ifconfig wg0` shows the device is there but the static ip is not set
[14:52] <lordcirth> nd__, what about the 'wg' tool?
[14:52] <nd__> this one does not complain and shows a handshake but since the static ip is not set on the device, the routing doesn't work and I cannot call the other box(es)
[14:54] <lordcirth> nd__, well, I've never used Wireguard, so I'm out of ideas. Good luck
[14:54] <nd__> thanks :-/
[14:56] <nd__> I'd say wireguard is not the issue, but getting the virtual device set up with an ip. If I do all the `ip address add dev wg0 #{internal_ip}/24` steps by hand (or via chef) it works fine… but I don't want to have to provision the box on every reboot, but only once or for changes.
[14:57] <lordcirth> Well, the wireguard config file has the IP in it, which implies that the wireguard service should set that IP.
[14:58] <nd__> lordcirth: While I'm not really sure I would say this is not the case. wg seems to need the ip for the routing etc, but in https://www.wireguard.com/quickstart/ they do set the ip via `ip addr …`
[14:58] <lordcirth> Hmm, ok
[15:00] <lordcirth> You said when you added a netplan entry for wg0, the device didn't get created?
[15:01] <nd__> if I omit the `wg-quick` service and only create a netplan entry, the device is not created, yes. I do get a `*.network` file in `/run/systemd/network` but no `*.link` file. I assume this is the issue.
[15:03] <nd__> But those were my first steps with netplan's yaml files, so the issue might have been on my side.
[15:03] <lordcirth> nd__, ok, but what if you have the service and netplan?
[15:04] <lordcirth> I think that might be how it's supposed to work
[15:06] <nd__> lordcirth: Ok, could be, true. I will try it…
[15:07] <nd__> (Takes a few minutes, have to spin up a new box, provision it, reboot it etc.)
[15:08] <PiOjitOh> I have problems installing readline, zlib sudo apt-get install readline zlib <<<< and does not install someone knows what happened to him =/
[15:09] <lordcirth> PiOjitOh, what does happen when you run it?
[15:09] <lordcirth> Oh, that package name doesn't exist. What exactly do you want to install?
[15:10] <PiOjitOh> E: Unable to locate package readline
[15:10] <PiOjitOh> E: Unable to locate package zlib
[15:11] <PiOjitOh> what I want is to install an iRCD / GNUWorld and ask me readline / zlib but it comes out that it is not
[15:11] <TomyWork> it's ircd or IRCd if you insist on capitals. it's not apple
[15:12] <TomyWork> also, try apt-get update before installing
[15:12] <PiOjitOh> It is my translator that puts it wrong ... since my language is Spanish
[15:12] <TomyWork> !es
[15:13] <PiOjitOh> I tried that and there is no way
[15:13] <TomyWork> don't use a translator for technical lingo
[15:13] <PiOjitOh> in that room there is no one like it xd it takes more than 6 centuries to respond
[15:14] <leftyfb> PiOjitOh: try libreadline5 or 7 depending on your release of ubuntu and/or readline-common. It depends on what exactly your package requires. Also, why not install an IRCd from packages?
[15:15] <leftyfb> PiOjitOh: bottom line, you'll need to seek support from the maintainers of the program you are installing to determine what packages it needs as dependencies.
[15:16] <TomyWork> or use packages: apt install ircd-irc2
[15:17] <TomyWork> or something more modern
[15:17] <leftyfb> I asked that question above
[15:18] <TomyWork> since he might skip over that and only read your last line, i thought I'd directly contrast it and add some details
[15:26] <omega_doom> I'm experincing some problems with terminal. I can't see symbols when i type in it.
[15:26] <omega_doom> It happens after i run some program.
[15:26] <omega_doom> Is there a way to get echo back?
[15:28] <Gargoyle> omega_doom: From the menu, choose advanced->reset and clear
[15:29] <magic_ninja_work> has anyone tried the beta drivers release 435?
[15:29] <Lemongr> Hi, I have an old Linksys WRT54GL with ddwrt that's been a wifi AP on my network, couldn't find its ip, unplugged from the network and plugged a machine into it, did a hard reset but can't see it on 192.168.1.1. I've done a ping scan on 192.168.1.1-255 and on 192.168.0.1-255 and find nothing. Are there any tools I may have overlooked for diagnosing this?
[15:30] <omega_doom> Gargoyle: still no echo when i type.
[15:31] <Gargoyle> omega_doom: Can't you just quit and relaunch?
[15:31] <omega_doom> Gargoyle: No. :)
[15:33] <Habbie> Lemongr, launch tcpdump on a connected cable, then power up the wrt
[15:34] <omega_doom> Ok. "stty echo" saved my day. :)
[15:36] <Lemongr> Habbie: Great, thanks, I'll try that
[15:38] <ceed^> I have an application which uses lots of processes (more than 100). How can I find out the total memory usage for this application on Ubuntu?
[15:44] <ioria> pmap ?
[15:57] <PsyStemUpdate> anyone know if theres a formiddable library OS out yet to replace my linux box?
[15:57] <lordcirth> PsyStemUpdate, "library OS"?
[15:59] <PsyStemUpdate> operating system that doesn use monolithic kernel infrastructure..it loads only what it needs into the dynamic kernel and is app centered. your app needs network and usb; load up only those kernel modules
[15:59] <PsyStemUpdate> boot up time 1 to 2 seconds
[16:00] <lordcirth> PsyStemUpdate, That's not on topic here, then.
[16:01] <PsyStemUpdate> rumors have it that the ubuntu team is working on one. so yes its on topic if people are migrating to a more modern ubuntu/linux/non-posix
[16:02] <lordcirth> PsyStemUpdate, this is the Ubuntu support channel, though. Perhaps #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic?
[16:02] <argusbr> whats error on crontab? */3 * * * * root python /var/www/silverlords.org/crontab/cloud.py >/dev/null&
[16:03] <lordcirth> argusbr, is this in /etc/crontab?
[16:03] <PsyStemUpdate> lordcirth : i will try those channels, thanks
[16:04] <argusbr> lordcirth i use crontab -e
[16:04] <Habbie> argusbr, then leave out the username
[16:04] <lordcirth> argusbr, then the 'root' field is invalid
[16:05] <argusbr> i logged on root
[16:05] <Habbie> that's good
[16:05] <argusbr>  */3 * * * * python /var/www/silverlords.org/crontab/cloud.py >/dev/null&
[16:05] <Habbie> but you still don't put a username in crontab -e
[16:05] <argusbr> lordcirth only?
[16:05] <Habbie> what's the & for?
[16:05] <lordcirth> argusbr, yes, so you are editing root's crontab, so you don't need a username
[16:06] <lordcirth> I'm not sure if & is valid in cron, I don't think it is
[16:06] <argusbr> ok
[16:06] <lordcirth> Or at least it isn't needed
[16:06] <Habbie> it certainly is not needed
[16:52] <TheChance> Alright. Yesterday, I decided to stick Ubuntu on a spare partition using debootstrap. This has always been simple: build the environment, chroot, pull down packages, make sure it has a kernel, add a user, reboot. but netplan doesn't work as advertised. i'm sure, if i were in a position to install from an image, that it would "just work," but i'm not and it isn't. and 9/10 SO questions and forum threads re: "how do i go back to ifupdown?" just
[16:52] <TheChance> derisively answer, "don't."
[16:53] <TheChance> well, i did, and it's working, and that was a whole evening of misery i didn't need to experience, so now i'm wondering why somebody decided to replace something that worked for 20 years with a YAML parser that feeds data to Python in order to invoke the same backend
[16:55] <lordcirth> Netplan is rather pointless, but I can't say I've had much trouble with it
[16:58] <bastiaan> I don't (need to) use it on 18.04
[17:00] <bastiaan> unfortunately NetworkManager is also problematic with wired connection so I decided to replace that with ifupdown with ifplugd
[17:02] <bastiaan> and ifupdown has also its issues, for instance turning off ipv6 slaac but use fixed address doesn't work properly because of a race condition bug
[17:04] <crazyzurfer> Hello
[17:04] <crazyzurfer> Can I ask a question?
[17:04] <bastiaan> its a pity so many networkconnection/management tools on linux are actually quite poor
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> welcome crazyzurfer
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | bastiaan
[17:05] <bastiaan> ok
[17:06] <CarlFK> 16.04 status bar clock had support for differnt cities/time zones.  how do I get that in 18.04 bionic?
[17:10] <ioria> CarlFK, or with a shell extension or with gnome-clocks or gworldclock
[17:11] <systest> Does anyone know if it's even possible to configure systemd-resolvd to listen on an alternate port, i.e. NOT port 53
[17:20] <lordcirth> systest, good question, I looked for a bit and didn't find it
[17:26] <systest> just asked in the systemd channel, short answer, `no` :-(
[17:45] <TJ-> 18.04, Xubuntu, strange situation developed. Something unknown appears to be stealing keyboard focus/input after a variable length of time. Originally noticed this whilst doing repeated PDF Save-As in Firefox and not being able to enter the Filename, but now hit again in Evince whilst annotating a PDF. Keyboard is working fine in terminal (as you can see). Restarting the affected GUI application when it
[17:45] <TJ-> occurs fixes it for another short time before it happens again. No clues in journal... any idea!?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: maybe try another user to see if its systemwide?
[17:55] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I'll do that later, in the midst of trying to get some documents out and printed right now. Seems really weird... initially thought it was a Firefox-only issue but now... difficult to come up with a rationale explanation
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: was it like this always, or after an update?
[17:56] <TJ-> My regular PC ... could be an update I'll have to check the apt history
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ive noticed a few days bad mouseclick behaviour on my bionic NUC, have to click few times to close a window etc
[17:57] <TJ-> what is strange is all the focus indicators show the relevant input area is active, and I can copy/paste using the cursor it is only keyboard input being affected
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> weirdy
[17:58] <TJ-> Otherwise I'd have thought another application is stealing input focus
[17:59] <TJ-> I was saving PDFs from a planning portal earlier, 90 documents I had to context-click and choose Save As... and paste in the document name... every 12 or so this hit, only solution was to close and restart FF. Then just now hit it again in Evince whilst annotating a PDF form
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> yikes
[17:59] <TJ-> The PDf form was local,not loaded via Firefox
[18:00] <TJ-> Alt-tab to terminal and input is fine but GUI controls just don't want to know for some reason
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: are you using multiple workspaces?
[18:07] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: no
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: cant find much on xfce bugs
[18:21] <parak0vsky> having problems installing tor browser on the latest ubunte
[18:21] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: nor me, I think its more generic, not XFCE specific
[18:21] <parak0vsky> ubuntu. it just hangs on verifying signature pre load state
[18:22] <Bashing-om> parak0vsky: In a pastebin - show the command you used to install and the results.
[18:47] <delt> hello everyone
[18:47] <delt> just a small comment about the package management (dpkg/apt) ...
[18:47] <delt> what would really be nice when installing/updating tons of packages at once, is when it needs user interaction (ie. keep your old config file, or replace with newer version? Y/N) after a certain delay it would skip that package, install the other ones, and then come back to it/those at the *end* of the install/update
[18:50] <OerHeks> delt the -y option is used for that
[18:50] <delt> OerHeks: assume yes to all questions?
[18:50] <OerHeks> jups
[18:51] <OerHeks> well, the truetype fonts installer needs a user input, but i guess there is a way around that too
[18:53] <delt> from #debian: 14:49:30 < greycat> delt: it can't safely rearrange the package installation order at that point.  It's already been decided according to Pre-Depends: and so on.
[18:54] <OerHeks> why package rearrange order?
[18:54] <delt> from #debian also: still, it would be nice to have an option to do that (14:52:46 < delt> so, it would need to prune the packages that require user interaction, AND all dependent packages) and then report which packages weren't installed at the end
[18:54] <OerHeks> let ubuntu handle that
[18:54] <delt> OerHeks: because some packages depend on other packages to work and sometimes even to install correctly
[18:55] <delt> OerHeks: ubuntu i guess you mean ubuntu's package management
[18:55] <OerHeks> how is this an issue? ubuntu handles that gracely
[18:55] <Nelluk> i want to add nameservers on my 18.04 LTS vps. google tells me to edit config files in /etc/netplan, but that directory exists but is empty. does that indicate i should use some other system for modifying nameservers?
[18:55] <delt> OerHeks: which is actually debian's package management
[18:55] <delt> which is exactly what i'm talking about
[18:59] <delt> anyway... thanks for your time guys
[18:59] <delt> cheers
[19:03] <CarlFK> ioria: installed both gnome-clocks and gworldclock - where do I add cities ?
[19:05] <OerHeks> CarlFK, install gnome-tweak, to manage those extention
[19:06] <OerHeks> * you might need to logout/login to let them take effect
[19:07] <CarlFK> OerHeks: im looking at gnome-tweaks - Top Bar, Clock: Date and show seconds is all I see
[19:07] <CarlFK> ah, Ill try log out / in...
[19:20] <ioria> CarlFK, install Top Bar Clocks : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1479/top-bar-clocks/  then restart Gnome-shell or logout/in
[19:23] <bray90820> How would I make an image of ubuntu like you do with windows
[19:24] <OerHeks> dd, tar, clonezilla .. how does windows make an image?
[19:25] <Bashing-om> bray90820: Rephrase - as many of us have not touched Windows in years.
[19:25] <OerHeks> !clone
[19:26] <bray90820> Bashing-om: Basically I just wanna make a backup of ubuntu so I can restore it later if needed
[19:27] <Bashing-om> bray90820: Check out 'dd'- ' man dd ' . dd is the backend for most replicating apps.
[19:28] <bray90820> That would work for backing up the system?
[19:28] <forgotten> can anyone help me get my bluetooth working?  It literally worked yesterday and now won't show there are any adaptors again =/
[19:31] <CarlFK> bray90820:  yes.  but look into clonezilla - it will likely be faster (doesn't backup unused space)
[19:32] <CarlFK> bray90820: and I think it will make bootable media, so all you need is the backup to create a new system
[19:32] <bray90820> Actually gnome disk utility is working pretty well for me at the moment but thanks
[19:32] <CarlFK> ioria: are you sure that works?  the only 2 comments say "doesn't work on 18.04"
[19:33] <ioria> CarlFK,  yes, i'am sure ( i just did it)
[19:33] <CarlFK> ioria: thanks for verifnying..
[19:33] <ioria> ok
[19:34] <CarlFK> ioria: is there a apt package, or do I need to do the zip file thing?
[19:34] <ioria> CarlFK,  are you talking about the shell extension ?
[19:34] <CarlFK> yes
[19:35] <ioria> CarlFK,  nope, you install gnome-shell-extensions && chrome-gnome-shell and do all the job from ff
[19:36] <ioria> CarlFK,  ff also will ask you to install something else (as add-on) , iirc
[19:47] <forgotten> nvm i fixed it.
[19:54] <ioria> CarlFK,  before loggin out/in , set the new time/zone/city in gnome-clocks (or gworldclock) ; after that, you'll see the new timezone under the clock panel applet; home you sole, bye
[19:59] <bernyrd> hi I get "timeout waiting for PAD0 \ can not complete PPPoE discovery" with ppd
[19:59] <bernyrd> I set up using pppoe-conf
[19:59] <bernyrd> I have right un/pass
[19:59] <bernyrd> I did recently replace a bad cable, but it did not fix that issue
[19:59] <bernyrd> nothing in dmesg
[20:31] <chronofire> Hey guys, totally new to linux here. when I use my terminal client I can upload files to new directories that I make but I get a permission denied error when i try to upload into the pre-existing directories created by the git clones, any ideas?
[20:32] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Check the permissions on the parent directory as well as those of the target file ' ls -al <target> ' .
[20:34] <bernyrd> hi
[20:34] <bernyrd> I have new info
[20:34] <bernyrd> if I plug the supposed-to-be PPPoE port into a windows comp, I immediately get the ISP IP assigned to me
[20:34] <bernyrd> why is this
[20:34] <bernyrd> how do I set up ubuntu to do that
[20:35] <chronofire> @bashing-om I see the permission to the directory has everything checked off under write permission under the "other" category but i still get permission denied when I apply this option
[20:37] <OerHeks> i think this guide is valid for 18.04 too >> https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/create-pppoe-connection-ubuntu-16-04
[20:37] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Sorry - not - I am not GUI minded - from terminal post to a pastebin ' ls -al <targets> '. See what we are working with :)
[20:39] <bernyrd> OerHeks: Thanks. I do the latter. But it fails with timeout, not receiving PADO packet
[20:39] <bernyrd> I thought I had bad cable... but I replace it, no change
[20:39] <bernyrd> I had to migrate an install to new HW. I am not sure if I actually used PPPoE, because pppd seems to be seriously broken
[20:39] <OerHeks> bernyrd, so you followed a guide?
[20:39] <bernyrd> I may need to duplicate whatever is happening on Windows
[20:40] <bernyrd> Modem is definitely set to forward PPP packets over Ethernet, but the modem is buggy, and I do not think it is doing that right
[20:40] <bernyrd> yes  but per the guide I answer some questions
[20:40] <bernyrd> `pon dsl-provider` doesn't work, with timeout relating to PADO packets
[20:41] <Bashing-om> chronofire: We do understand "new" If you have difficulties please say - we are here to help :P
[20:41] <chronofire> yes, i am new very new lol
[20:42] <chronofire> https://pastebin.com/Mn5CsVey
[20:42] <chronofire> not sure if that is even what you meant
[20:43] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Making progress - the "<targets>" is a template for the actual path/file in question :)
[20:44] <chronofire> i see when I change write permissions to the directory via the gui options of the terminal client they seem to stick, but when i apply write permissions to the file i am looking to replace the write permission goes away when i view it again
[20:46] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Sorry again - No Gui reference from me ... terminal tells all. For instance ' ls -al /var/log/ ' where <target> here is /var/log/.
[20:46] <chronofire> so the command should look more like this ls-al</home/nate/OSM-Rocketmap/static/icons/> ?
[20:48] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Yeah .. if the icon assignment is what is in question here :)
[20:48] <chronofire> I have a directory called icons and its a list of .png files, il looking to replace them with new ones
[20:49] <chronofire> i get the same "snytax error near unexpected token 'newline' still
[20:49] <Bashing-om> chronofire: NO ! We want to know "who" has authorized permissions to execute.
[20:50] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Oh shoot ! sorry my error ' should ne as:ls-al /home/nate/OSM-Rocketmap/static/icons/ - My bad :(
[20:51] <Bashing-om> be as*
[20:51] <chronofire> no worries
[20:51] <chronofire> one sec
[20:53] <mrtrousers> Hello
[20:53] <mrtrousers> I recently upgraded to disco dingo
[20:53] <mrtrousers> Video screens keep resizing and mouse pointe jumps around
[20:54] <mrtrousers> Probably related to graphic drivers
[20:54] <mrtrousers> Any help please?¿
[20:54] <chronofire> when i enter as:ls-al /home/nate/OSM-Rocketmap/static/icons/ i get "as:ls-al" command not found
[20:56] <Bashing-om> chronofire: ls -al /home/nate/OSM-Rocketmap/static/icons/ - is the command in the termianal ( bash shell that is) :)
[20:57] <Bashing-om> chronofire: a push along the learning curve - in that terminal do ' man ls ' for a short primer on the 'ls' command.
[20:58] <mrtrousers> Hello, i have disco dingo with nvidia drivers..
[20:58] <mrtrousers> It keeps resizing youtube screens and mouse jumps around
[20:59] <mrtrousers> Ubuntu 18.04 everything was fine..
[20:59] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' see what we have to work with.
[20:59] <mrtrousers> Been searching google but cant find a fix
[21:00] <chronofire> wow lol i know what i was doing wrong
[21:00] <chronofire> https://pastebin.com/VDiujGtS
[21:00] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Looking that you did have a proprietary driver in 18.04 that breaks on the upgrade.
[21:01] <bernyrd> I made a little progress with my issue
[21:01] <bernyrd> if I just `ip addr add` the static ISP IP and set the subnet large enough to set gateway (which I don't know how to autodetect, I pulled it from Windows) it works
[21:01] <bernyrd> but this won't work on reboot
[21:01] <bernyrd> which network subsystem do I use
[21:01] <bernyrd> it is not dhcp
[21:01] <bernyrd> as far as I can tell
[21:02] <mrtrousers> Hello im back
[21:03] <mrtrousers> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X3GmQWMtD8/
[21:03] <mrtrousers> Thas the output
[21:04] <mrtrousers> for lshw -C Display
[21:05] <mrtrousers>  What happens is browser videos, aka youtube, keep resizing and mouse pointer jerks/jumps
[21:06] <mrtrousers> It was fine with ubuntu 18.04..
[21:06] <chronofire> @bashing-om looks like permissions are for root
[21:07] <mrtrousers> Someone asked for lshw output but i got disconnectd and couldnt keep his name
[21:07] <mrtrousers> Can someone remind me the  nick of the person that was willing to help?
[21:08] <mrtrousers> Ive been googling for hours now and can find a fix
[21:08] <mrtrousers> Disco dingo ubuntu 19 graphic driver problems
[21:08] <mrtrousers> Video browser, aka youtube, keeps resizing and mouse pointer jerks
[21:10] <mrtrousers> Output rerun as superuser:
[21:10] <mrtrousers> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gnzscJT73s/
[21:11] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Yeah ,,, Is there a reason you put system icons in your home directory ? generally "system" icons go to the /usr/share/ directory. else - if the icons files must be in your home then we do want to chnage the permissions.
[21:12] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: looking :)
[21:12] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om thanks
[21:12] <chronofire> osm-rocketmap is a git clone of a python web application which i probably cloned to the home directory not knowing any better
[21:13] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Again - did you remove the nvidia driver prior to the release upgrade ? Do we now purge and re-install the driver ?
[21:13] <chronofire> and thse are icons used in the web app
[21:14] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om , i did not, but  i have purged reinstalled, will do one more time
[21:14] <mrtrousers> sudo apt purge nvidia*  ?
[21:14] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om purged
[21:15] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om should install drivers  like that; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall  ?
[21:16] <Bashing-om> chronofire: I do not have that git clone here so can not veriry what you are doing :( .. however as a general rule ... anything in your /home should belong to "you" . Leabes us 2 courses of action ... make the permissiond to "you" or move the directory some place that the python web application knows about.
[21:17] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: make sure you are fully updated and upgraded to latest .. and also I would remove the old nvidia config file - look in the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d directory.
[21:18] <chronofire> hmm i see, so in general which directory should I place git clones?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: autoinstall is very smart .. will make the best choice from what it is provided to choose from.
[21:19] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om should i just delete any nvida file in that directory?
[21:20] <mrtrousers> I have 10-nvidia.conf and 11-nvidia-prime.conf
[21:20] <mrtrousers> Theres some amd and radeon conf too..
[21:21] <|DM|> So, im not quite sure if this is the right place to ask because im not sure where the problem is but: I'm running an ubuntu instance on gcloud, and I have a webserver running. When I run it binding to port 3000 (or any other higher port) it runs fine and i can connect to it locally or externally. But if I bind to port 80, I can connect locally but not externally. iptables is all policy accept, uwf is off, gcloud firewall allows 80, 443,
[21:21] <|DM|> 3000-4000, running as root to bind port 80
[21:21] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: The system will only be effected ny the Nvidia modules . yeah remove them and the installer will re-create them for the current install.
[21:22] <mrtrousers> OK
[21:22] <|DM|> So what im wondering is, is there some setting or firewall or something that im missing somewhere and need to set in ubuntu? Because the connection is being actively refused which makes me think the request is reaching the VM and getting rejected
[21:23] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om , ok done, doing autoiwnstall no
[21:24] <mrtrousers> now
[21:24] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Well -- I too have my gits in my home directory. But I run terminal no icons .. bet it will be safe to change the permissions , Starting with the OSM-Rocketmap directory and working down to the icons in the icons directory.
[21:26] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om ok rebooting now
[21:27] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Bear in mind that if "you" do not have access rights to a directory then "you" do not have access to any of the files in that directory(s).
[21:28] <chronofire> @bashing-om the python app runs terminal but also hosts a webpage that people can access. This is where the icons are viewed. So if its safe to set the permissions to myself how would I do so?
[21:31] <deltab> you only need x permission on a directory to look up a name in it, and r on a file to read it
[21:32] <deltab> namei -m -o  shows the permissions and ownership of each directory in a path
[21:33] <Bashing-om> chronofire: Oh Gosh ,, as "a webpage that people can access." will want to move them out of your /home ... I can not advise though where to move them to - as I have no experince with the App you have installed.
[21:33] <mrtrousers> Hello Bashing-om
[21:34] <mrtrousers> Now my desktop environment has changed
[21:34] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: I see you :P
[21:34] <mrtrousers> Also on login credentials didnt work had many options: Ubuntu, Ubuntu on wayland, gnome classick, gnome..
[21:34] <mrtrousers> Only could login choosing gnome
[21:35] <mrtrousers> Youtube works fine though.. There is only one configuration file in the x11/xorg.. directory
[21:35] <marcm> I am setting up a new Web Server. Would it make sense to mount the /home partition, where I will also keep my website, with nosuid, noexec and nodev options in /etc/fstab? It's mostly PHP (WordPress and Drupal). Will this cause any issues? I want the maximum possible security. Thank you.
[21:35] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Multi DEs -- often cause conflicts .. I can not help there - above my pay grade to sort it out :(
[21:35] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om but something doesnt feel right.. Desktop environment gui, or for example browser doesnt have a minimize button..
[21:36] <mrtrousers> What is Multi Des ?
[21:37] <HotSwap> multiple Desktop Environments
[21:37] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: DE == Desktop Environment - "Ubuntu, Ubuntu on wayland, gnome
[21:37] <Bashing-om>                     classick, gnome..
[21:37] <Bashing-om> "
[21:37] <mrtrousers> But i dont have that, and if i have it was an accident..
[21:37] <mrtrousers> I juts want my normal ubuntu with its gnome and stuff
[21:38] <mrtrousers> For example ubuntu wayland today is the first day i see that..
[21:39] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Shotgun approach ' sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ' let's see here if the package manager complains.
[21:40] <mrtrousers> Ok
[21:40] <mrtrousers> The comand just went through fine
[21:41] <mrtrousers> Nothings changed aparently, i will reboot see what happens
[21:41] <bernyrd> I figured out my pppoe issue
[21:41] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: wayland was a altermative protocol in 18.04 - does not play rel nice with proprietary Nvidia driver.
[21:42] <bernyrd> it was not pppoe. apparently only working setting in modem is direct forwarding of traffic over dhcp, so it sets up a dhcp server and expects only one client, which the modem IP is assigned to
[21:42] <bernyrd> the pppoe setting in like 3 modems I have used is broken
[21:42] <bernyrd> so...
[21:47] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om
[21:50] <mrtrousers> Disco dingo is a bit buggy, might have been better to stay a bit behind
[21:51] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Uh Huh :)
[21:51] <mrtrousers> The problems i had have been fixes so far though
[21:51] <mrtrousers> Now i would like to get a minimize close button for the browser
[21:51] <mrtrousers> And the left panel for activities/favourites/tasks
[21:55] <mrtrousers> Ok, i have minimize maximize installing tweaks
[21:56] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: GUI is not my thing .. check what ' gnome-tweak-tool ' can do for that.
[21:56] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om yup i did that
[21:56] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: :)
[21:56] <mrtrousers> Still weirds me out that i get 5 options to login and 4 are not working
[21:57] <mrtrousers> If i manage to anchor the left panel activities panel i will be happy enought
[21:57] <mrtrousers> Bashing-om thanks for help
[21:57] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: I have done little - ya done all the heavy lifting :P
[22:06] <CarlFK> back to my vim saga... sudo apt install vim vim : Depends: libpython3.6 (>= 3.6.5) but it is not going to be installed; E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. ... libpython3.6 : Depends: libpython3.6-stdlib (= 3.6.8-1~18.04.1) but 3.6.9-1+xenial1 is to be installed http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X5XhjyW95p/
[22:07] <CarlFK> removing libpython3.6-stdlib will remove like 290 packages, (I suspect apt being one of them) so lets not do that
[22:14] <Bashing-om> CarlFK:  where comes the newer version - "3.6.9-1+xenial1" for libpython3.6-stdlib? Maybe libpython3.6 - what shows dpkg -l libpython3.6 ?
[22:16] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: um.. what?  libpython3.6 isn't installed, so dpkg -l libpython3.6 => dpkg-query: no packages found matching libpython3.6
[22:17] <CarlFK> apt-cache policy libpython3.6 Candidate: 3.6.8-1~18.04.1 ... 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 Packages
[22:27] <mystic> Using ubuntu 18.  What are the Keyboard shortcuts to copy screenshot to clipboard?  'prntscreen' save it only and not copy to clipboard.
[22:29] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: do ' apt rdepends libpython3.6-stdlib
[22:30] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8834kVg39v/
[22:30] <Bashing-om>  and you see that if ya want libpython3.6-stdlib, then libpython3.6 must be installed :)
[22:31] <mystic> why bash om?    i like chants
[22:31] <CarlFK> apt-cache policy python3.6  Installed: 3.6.9-1+xenial1
[22:32] <Bashing-om> !info python3.6 | bionic | CarlFK
[22:32] <CarlFK> how do I get that one?
[22:33] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Find the PPA that installed python3.6  Installed: 3.6.9-1+xenial1
[22:34] <CarlFK> Bashing-om:   what do I do when I find that PPA?
[22:34] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | CarlFK
[22:35] <CarlFK> interesting...
[22:37] <mystic> Using ubuntu 18.  What are the Keyboard shortcuts to copy screenshot to clipboard?  'prntscreen' save it only and not copy to clipboard.
[22:37] <gambl0re> how do i change the keyboard shortcut to show the desktop
[22:38] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: how do I know which PPA it came from
[22:38] <pizzaiolo> gambl0re what version of ubuntu?
[22:38] <gambl0re> 18
[22:38] <mystic> wat about my question
[22:38] <Bashing-om> mystic: Do not know about your's but my "screenshot' has an option to save to the clipboard .
[22:39] <pizzaiolo> mystic check your shortcuts - https://www.itsupportguides.com/knowledge-base/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-printscreen-direct-to-clipboard/
[22:39] <mystic> i saw no otipn when i did it
[22:39] <gambl0re> pizzaiolo, ill take a look thanks
[22:39] <pizzaiolo> settings > devices > keyboard
[22:40] <gambl0re> pizzaiolo, i'm there already. i dont see any shortcut configured for show desktop
[22:40] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Might find it with ' apt policy libpython3.6-stdlib libpython3.6 python3.6 ' .
[22:41] <gambl0re> those are keyboard shortcuts to launch applications. i dont want a short to launch any application. i want a shortcut to show the desktop
[22:41] <mystic> thanks
[22:41] <pizzaiolo> sorry gambl0re that was meant for mystic
[22:41] <gambl0re> oh ok
[22:42] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: they all say http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-[updates/]  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vrwd6p3BSh/
[22:44] <gambl0re> anyone know how to change keyboard shortcut to show desktop?
[22:44] <OerHeks> gambl0re, there is no shortcut in gnome3, make one yourself http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/10/add-show-desktop-button-ubuntu-18-10-18-04/
[22:44] <gambl0re> thanks
[22:44] <gambl0re> im not using gnome
[22:44] <OerHeks> that used to be an unity thingy
[22:44] <gambl0re> im using xubuntu
[22:44] <OerHeks> gambl0re, oh, why not mentioning that
[22:44] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Not to helpful :( .. were me I would ' sudo apt install libpython3.6 ' and follow the bread crumbs.
[22:44] <gambl0re> OerHeks, i did above
[22:44] <pizzaiolo> ...
[22:44] <OerHeks> dunno, try #xubuntu ?
[22:45] <gambl0re> isn't ubuntu/xubuntu the same?
[22:46] <pizzaiolo> no, it uses xfce instead of gnome
[22:46] <Bashing-om> gambl0re: While the kernel is the same .. the desktops are entirely different.
[22:47] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: that's what i've been trying to do.  I think I need to downgrade python3.6  3.6.9-1+xenial1   to bionic's   3.6.8-1~18.04.1
[22:49] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: ' apt show python3.6 ' - Priority: important; Not so sure I want to be a part of breaking your system ;(
[22:50] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: I can't install vim - it's pretty broken :p
[22:52] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: So long as you are prepared to re-install - got yer backups done ? we can try and remove / re-install python3.6 and see where we go from there.
[22:53] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: pretty sure removing it will be super bad as it will take out 290 other things.  is there either "downgrade" or "force this version" (on top of the existing install) ?
[22:54] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Well ,, can not hurt to try ' sudo apt install --reinstall python3.6 '
[22:55] <CarlFK> Bashing-om:  no luck.   Reinstallation of python3.6 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[22:58] <mystic> i wouldnt be so proud of a 3.6python
[22:58] <CarlFK> lol
[23:02] <CarlFK> huh, never seen a "Breaks: " section: Package: python3.6  Version: 3.6.8-1~18.04.1 Breaks: python3-all (<< 3.6.5~rc1-1), python3-dev (<< 3.6.5~rc1-1), python3-venv (<< 3.6.5-2)   http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JkKcfSpV5T/
[23:04] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: One can force the issue - but .. well a step over my paygrade as there can be real bad side effects, I do not care to go there. Best to find out and correct what is pulling in the 3.6.9-1+xenial1 version.
[23:07] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: understood.  thanks for your time so far
[23:12] <Bashing-om> CaptainN: I will watch and learn if another does different than I would do.
[23:35] <dirkmkdir> Hey there!   Where would you recommend i find tips for replacing my Windows Network with a Linux Network?  I'm pretty comfortable with Windows Directory, is there an Linux Parity?
[23:40] <Bashing-om> !netplan | dirkmkdir Start here -
[23:44]  * dirkmkdir Smiles
[23:44] <dirkmkdir> :bashing-om Thanks!  That looks like a create node manager.