 wxl: That didn't work I guess.
 I pasted the file at the above location and still even after reboot, the win+Fx didn't change desktop
[00:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2139
[00:08] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: Dude, I'm really impressed.
[00:08] <tsimonq2> Seriously, great work.
[00:08] <kc2bez> @aptghetto had a hand too.
[00:08] <tsimonq2> Also to wxl and @aptghetto, nice job :)
[00:09] <kc2bez> I couldn't have done it without y'all.
[00:09] <tsimonq2> <3
[00:09] <tsimonq2> I think it's ready for upload.
[00:09] <tsimonq2> wxl?
[00:13] <tsimonq2> The other thing I want to keep nagging wxl about is that ITS bug since the process takes 28 days. :P
 I made changes to include screengrab instead of it's predecessor, rebooted. then pressed PrtSc button and screengrab worked. But the problem with Win+Fx keys remains persistent on my vms. someone check it, should have been gone.
 Also, I lost the files I used to create D18 last time. How do I update it to include screengrab?
 wxl's PPA works fine for me. except for the windows+Num/Fx issue. (seems something else)
[00:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T84: Change default screenshot utility to screengrab from lximage-qt.] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T84#2142
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, I lost the files I used to create D18 last time. How do I update it to inc …], Done.
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T84: Change default screenshot utility to screengrab from lximag …], @HMollerCl
 mmm, it is strange that lximage-qt wasn't there before...
 It was.
 aaa ok, I didn't saw it in the diff
 I downloaded raw diff. Edited it. And then uploaded it again.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [wxl's PPA works fine for me. except for the windows+Num/Fx issue. (seems somethi …], Ohh! I got it. Why Super+Fx didn't work as expected. One has to test D34 and D18 together, only then they work well.
[01:00] <tsimonq2> wxl, @The_LoudSpeaker: lxqt-globalkeys> The XDG change has been merged upstream, I hope that's still the route we're going here?
[01:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2144
[01:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] bjlockie (James) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2145
[01:22] <tsimonq2> My test plan is foolproof: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D35
[01:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] [WIP] Add more content to the Contributing Guide: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D35
[01:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIER0cea66a271e1: added lp bug number] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIER0cea66a271e1
[01:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Cleanup for lubuntu-update-notifier prior to uploading] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2146
 @tsimonq2 wxl: with that T98 should be closed, and T97 too.
 so lubuntu-update-notifier should be ready
[01:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] bjlockie (James) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2147
[01:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIERe7bf7ca4af21: fix long line] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIERe7bf7ca4af21
[01:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcdd1535f173f: [WIP] Add more content to the Contributing Guide] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcdd1535f173f
[01:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIER2fc04fbdbcd7: remove unused files] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIER2fc04fbdbcd7
[01:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIERc0ec597d94bc: remove unused files] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIERc0ec597d94bc
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D36 wxl, @tsimonq2 hide lximage-qt screenshot .desktop
[03:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added lximage-qt-screenshot.desktop with NoDisplay=true so it does not appear because we changed screenshot program to screengrab: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D36
[03:59] <wxl> anyone still awake?
 yes
[04:03] <wxl> oh hai :)
[04:03] <wxl> i missed all the fun earlier, eh?
 fun?
[04:03] <wxl> oh wellthere was a lot of activity at least
[04:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGScd7fa92d1541: Clean up Calamares settings.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGScd7fa92d1541
[04:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Cleanup for lubuntu-update-notifier prior to uploading] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2155
[04:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Make lubuntu-update-notifier PEP-8 compliant] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2159
[04:52] <wxl> @Guephren did you see my note about the suspend button?
[04:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2161
[05:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2162
[05:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING41fe87f28142: Add XDG support.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING41fe87f28142
[06:02] <wxl> well didn't get to featherpad. if anyone wants to jump on that, more power to you.
[08:13] <Locutusofborg> hello, I worked on nm-tray, and tried to sync/merge with Debian
[08:13] <Locutusofborg> https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/10427332/+listing-archive-extra
[08:13] <Locutusofborg> I had to introduce a delta with breaks/replaces because the existing Debian package is split into two binaries
[08:13] <Locutusofborg> testing/feedbacks are appreciated
 @tsimonq2> wxl, @The_LoudSpeaker: lxqt-globalkeys [<tsimonq2> wxl, @The_LoudSpeaker: lxqt-globalkeys> The XDG change has been merge …], Umm. Mostly not. Coz it's been 15 days I asked upstream for a new release but they haven't responded and they had said that it would be difficult before freeze so we are taking the upstream pa
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Umm. Mostly not. Coz it's been 15 days I asked upstream for a new release but th …], ETA on that?
 We have wxl's PPA with the patch. Just needs to be merged using another diff. wxl: since you patched it, will you create a diff?
 After that, just landing D18 and D34 will close T59
 Ohh wait, wxl merged it already.
 I will just edit the changelog to D18 and then it would be done.
 Wait, since patch is merged for xdg, we don't even need D18, shouldn't the config file go to rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGS ?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Wait, since patch is merged for xdg, we don't even need D18, shouldn't the confi …], Bingo
 Thus why I asked
 And it's a native package, so no quilt patch
 @tsimonq2 [Bingo], *Me such a tubelight*
 @tsimonq2 [And it's a native package, so no quilt patch], Ack.
 Glad you figured out the answer through your own methods though :)
 @tsimonq2 wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D34
[10:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Edited shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D34
 ^ @HMollerCl now this includes screengrab.
 for the grub theme, I have to add some files to rDEFAULTSETTINGs. Should I wait untill D34 is landed?
 Locutusofborg nm-tray 0.4.3 is already in 19.10
[11:07] <Locutusofborg> There is a version in Debian, we can sync nm-tray and leave the packaging to the Debian maintainer
[11:07] <Locutusofborg> it seems to be better than the Ubuntu one
[11:08] <Locutusofborg> less warnings, network-manager integration
[11:08] <Locutusofborg> package split in two
 Ok, and debian has already 0.4.3? Last time I look into it it has only 0.4.2
[12:07] <Locutusofborg> it has it, yes
[12:07] <Locutusofborg> and my ppa has the merge
[14:16] <kc2bez> tsimonq2: wxl teward Looks like we are having some infra issues
[14:18] <teward> issues how
[14:19] <kc2bez> phab is down as is lubot and lugito
[14:19] <teward> tsimonq2: host box is down apparently
[14:19] <teward> E:CannotReach
[14:19] <teward> did DO fubar it again
[15:10] <wxl[m]> Don't you mean Altispeed? 
[15:11] <kc2bez> $HOSTING_PROVIDER
[17:15] <lynorian> yes even the manual is down
[18:05] <kc2bez> If there is anything I can do to help please let me know.
[18:33] <wxl> @tsimonq2: infra infra infra infra infra infra
[19:20] <wxl> infra should be in 2 hr sez @tsimonq2 
[19:20] <wxl> he broke it as usual
[20:01] <lynorian> back now
[20:01] <wxl> finally
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6af8d960b82d: Remove two spaces] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6af8d960b82d
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL40301efaf0d8: Remove uneeded whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL40301efaf0d8
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1f5977225fa6: Add window settings fade in out settings] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1f5977225fa6
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL339fe8d9c7a7: Fix list of things that can have opacity changed] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL339fe8d9c7a7
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf29e34ceff80: Add do not let dimness adjust checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf29e34ceff80
[20:06] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: i just accepted the D34. would like tsimonq2's sign off and then i'll get it done.
[20:07] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: it would be nice if we could get the xscreensaver bit done!
[20:07] <kc2bez> I don't think the bridge is up yet wxl 
[20:08] <wxl> aw heck
[20:09] <wxl> looks like the bridge is supposed to be up
[20:09] <wxl> i can see my messages on irc going through there
[20:10] <wxl> however i see messages coming in through telegram that aren't getting relayed
[20:10] <kc2bez> I just bridged it for you I think. 
[20:12] <wxl> whoa buncha chatter i missed
[20:15] <wxl> gonna try a teleirc restart
[20:15] <wxl> oh wait i guess teward did
[20:16] <teward> wxl: i'm in the process of systemdifying things too
[20:16] <teward> so patience
[20:17] <wxl> ok so i'm going to type here but watch telegram on my phone hah this is ridiculous
 @tsimonq2 [What specifically are you referring to?], D34. I added globalkeyshortcuts.conf in it. But same file (not modified one) is present in rGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING and we should delete it from there first. Before landing D34. D34 deals with rDEFAULTSETTINGS
 i see messages here now lol
[20:18] <teward> and here
[20:18] <teward> i think it's working
[20:18] <teward> unrelated...
[20:18] <teward> @tsimonq2 teleirc is SystemD-ified too
[20:18] <teward> :P
[20:18] <wxl> finally
[20:18] <kc2bez> \o/
 Eureka!
[20:18] <wxl> ok so re: backlog on shortcuts, ya'll understand what's up?
 so NOW
 Sorry everyone. Server went down due to internal accounting issues.
 when we have an infra reboot, TeleIRC and Lugito will autostart too
 so now NOTHING is manual-start out of the critical infra
 @teward001 [so now NOTHING is manual-start out of the critical infra], Notes?
[20:19] <kc2bez> Awesome @teward001
 That's manual start
[20:19] <wxl> "internal accounting issues" HAHAHAHA
 ... we ahve a notes system?
 since when?
 @teward001 [... we ahve a notes system?], CodiMD
 and why do you not tell me crap
 DUDE SERIOUSLY
 I told you this
 😆
 while I was drunk yes you did
 @tsimonq2 scroll up and check ploxx.
[20:20]  * kc2bez slaps @teward with a trout. 
 wxl: D34. I added globalkeyshortcuts.conf in it. But same file (not modified one) is present in rGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING and we should delete it from there first. Before landing D34. D34 deals with rDEFAULTSETTINGS
 I'll be AFK until about 9 Central tonight
 @The_LoudSpeaker [wxl: D34. I added globalkeyshortcuts.conf in it. But same file (not modified one …], If we do reverse of this, I fear the file which we put through D34 will get deleted later.
[20:23] <wxl> @tsimonq2: please go check what's waiting to be reviewed first
[20:24] <wxl> @tsimonq2: namely D36 and D34
[20:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T85: Set GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR correctly] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T85#2165
[20:26] <wxl> is there anyone out there who wants to make a little freaking icon? i've never heard back from @Guephren on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T111
[20:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] create suspend button for sddm theme: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T111
[20:27] <wxl> @tsimonq2: what do you think about making our archiver Arqiver? see https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83#2108
[20:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] fix archiver: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83#2108
 @The_LoudSpeaker that didn't solve my issue
 does anyone else have problem with meta key after lxqt-globalkeyshortcut update? wxl?
[20:29] <wxl> let me get an iso going
[20:29] <wxl> it's specifically with meta for menu?
 for menu and launcher
[20:30] <wxl> what's launcher again?
[20:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> I think he means pcmanfm-qt?
 launcher meta+r
 or alt+f2
[20:31] <wxl> neither meta+r or alt+f2 works?
 pcmanfm-qt meta+e
 but meta+e works ok for me
 @wxl [<wxl> neither meta+r or alt+f2 works?], neither
[20:31] <wxl> sigh
 actually, I can write with meta pressed
 (except the "e" which launches pcmanfm-qt)
 but I don't know if it happens in a clean iso
 What happens if you delete or disable the meta +e one. Does meta +r work?
 can't disable...
 at leats not through gui
 Double click the radio box.
 It should disable it.
 ok
 neither meta+r, meta+e or super_l works
 (meta+r as expected because disable)
[20:35] <wxl> so new iso
[20:35] <wxl> in a vm
[20:35] <wxl> super_l works
 D34 has those lines in the file. Lines 149 and 169 on the diff. But now I see it. I guess runner's command should be changed?
[20:35] <wxl> alt f2 works
 I am waiting for my iso to zsync.
 @wxl [<wxl> super_l works], Super+r ?
[20:35] <wxl> the super combos aren't working but that may be a virtualbox problem
[20:36] <wxl> oh they're not defined
 Or maybe it's due to that old config file I am talking about.
 @wxl [<wxl> @Guephren did you see my note about the suspend button?], I am like a ghost comet. … On a more serious note, I apologise for being absent here. I'll try to get to it today, have to install Inkscape first.
 @wxl [<wxl> oh they're not defined], What?
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] bjlockie (James) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2168
[20:38] <wxl> this is /etc/xdg/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZCNBZ9NJq9/
 wxl: mmmm If I restart lxqt-launcher, meta+r works.....
[20:38] <wxl> this is ~/.config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQZy5P8Nq3/
 maybe is the order in which they shoudl start?
 and, my ~/.config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf  is duplicating entries...
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] bjlockie (James) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2169
 @wxl [<wxl> this is ~/.config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ …], This will get replaced once D34 lands. It's created from the global files. While testing now, you just downloaded and replaced global file I guess.
[20:41] <wxl> i haven't yet
[20:41] <wxl> i thought the issue was with my patch more than anything else
 now I have everything working. had to restart panel and restart lxqt-runner
[20:43] <wxl> ah good
 @HMollerCl [and, my ~/.config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf  is duplicating entries...], Same thing happened with me today morning. Do a thing, change the global files so they represent what's in D34. Then create a new user. Check it's local file once.
[20:43] <kc2bez> lxqt-runner is a weird one since the shortcut key for that is mapped inside the application as well as globalkeys.
 Unfortunately I can't help rn coz have cold + on bed + 2.16 am + i deleted my vms this afternoon.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> lxqt-runner is a weird one since the shortcut key for that is mapped in …], Yeah I tried to map all from globalkeys but that doesn't work. See some media keys.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Same thing happened with me today morning. Do a thing, change the global files s …], @HMollerCl you tried this?
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> lxqt-runner is a weird one since the shortcut key for that is mapped in …], menu to..
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl you tried this?], no, as soon as I have some time I will.
 Let me know when you do.
 I will create new vms tomorrow when I have time.
[21:40] <wxl> @Guephren thank you thank you thank you
 It's killing me though.
[21:41] <wxl> oh?
[23:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL17ce53e277c5: Inline screenshots and move change password tab to a more useful stuff] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL17ce53e277c5
 yay lugito works :D
 *dances around like a crazy*
 and so is the bot, so i'm happy about that.  no more manual service restarting, eh, @tsimonq2
 you must hbe happy about that
[23:06] <wxl> he doesn't give a hoot
 lol
 he's the one who wanted me to systemd things xD
[23:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbb43e735b2db: Replace or with /] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbb43e735b2db
[23:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL13f84dd47cf3: Fix heading for how to quit power management] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL13f84dd47cf3
 @teward001 you're awesome!
[23:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T111: create suspend button for sddm theme] Guephren (Fernando) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T111#2176
[23:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL14154e575e05: Add Enable this display checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL14154e575e05
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T111: create suspend button for sddm theme  3]   15Guephren (Fer …], Alright, Lugito said something about me. Says I've made a comment? I suppose that's not what's needed… so, commit? How to? (Sorry, this is not my area of expertise).
[23:38] <wxl> the bot keeps us updated on what happens
[23:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc58eda63549f: Reword names of screen senetence] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc58eda63549f
[23:39] <wxl> so the question is this: do you want to go through the somewhat laborious process of getting this added to the repositories (which will be of use later) or do you want me to do it?
[23:39] <wxl> @Guephren ^
 Depends on what would be more useful in the long run. For quickness I could send you the file (if what you see in the comment is alright).
[23:43] <wxl> i think in the long run, it would be good to know the process
[23:44] <wxl> then you can make changes as needed on your own time
[23:44] <wxl> but
[23:44] <wxl> quicker is probably better
[23:44] <wxl> you SHOULD be able to upload it, or at least make a paste of the xml
[23:45] <wxl> hm
[23:45] <wxl> actually
[23:46] <wxl> it doesn't seem like we're saving the svg's in the repository.. hmm
[23:46] <lynorian> not sure that is the best choice long term
[23:47] <wxl> i know there's a certain reason to keep those hidden but it's a real PITA on the other hand
 *Is lost*
[23:48] <wxl> nevermind
[23:48] <wxl> just paste the svg xml
 Mmm… ok. Where to?
[23:49] <wxl> just as a comment there
[23:49] <wxl> if you want to get fancy you can make a paste on phabricator and then reference it
[23:49] <wxl>  1. go to https://phab.lubuntu.me/paste/
[23:49] <wxl>  2. click create paste
[23:49] <wxl>  3. paste and save
[23:50] <wxl>  4. note the number of the paste (it will be P34)
[23:50] <wxl>  5. go to https://phab.lubuntu.me/T111
[23:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] create suspend button for sddm theme: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T111
[23:50] <wxl>  6. make a new comment with {P34} and save it
 That is the strangest process I've heard of, haha! :p Just let see how I can grab the xml off from Inkscape.
[23:53] <wxl> no need
[23:54] <wxl> just load up the file in a text editor and copy/paste