[00:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T111: create suspend button for sddm theme] Guephren (Fernando) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T111#2178
[00:04] <wxl> danke
 There. … Gotta say, this is the weirdest way I've ever shared an image.
[00:06] <wxl> but a very reasonable and portable one
 That's true.
[00:18] <guiverc> fyi: i just noted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1841000 in #ubuntu-bugs-announce, 
 @teward001 [because I made SystemD units that work lol?  xD], You keep track of our systems and make sure it stays working. That's awesome. It isn't always about the complexity.
[02:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIERca21971114f2: fix changelog unreleased to eoan] Hans P Möller <hmoller@uc.cl> committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIERca21971114f2
 wxl ^^ already fixed e-mail
 sorry, fixed e-mail on https://phab.lubuntu.me/D36
[02:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added lximage-qt-screenshot.desktop with NoDisplay=true so it does not appear because we changed screenshot program to screengrab: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D36
 lubuntu-update-notifier is ready
 wxl @tsimonq2 {
 ^
 @HMollerCl [lubuntu-update-notifier is ready], 👍
 @HMollerCl [lubuntu-update-notifier is ready], Good ;)
[02:35] <wxl> @kc2bez: @teward001's official title is Simon Quigley's Janitorial Assistant XD
 Well, that can be a daunting task XD
[02:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2179
 @teward001 [wasn't that hard.], I couldn't systemd my znc. So.. it is a bit hard.
 @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez: @teward001's official title is Simon Quigley's Janitorial Assista …], Ewwww. He deserves better.
 @kc2bez [You keep track of our systems and make sure it stays working. That's awesome. It …], well, that's part of the job of being hired as such :P
 @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez: @teward001's official title is Simon Quigley's Janitorial Assista …], no you mean "The Cleaner" - and i mean that generally jot because of Simon lol
 @teward001 [well, that's part of the job of being hired as such :P], hired or not, it is still appreciated.
 Btw, anybody interested in seeing the blockchain app I made? It applies blockchain to the process of voting.
[03:15] <wxl> no, no one wants to see your hard work. and certainly you won't find anyone here interested in blockchains.
[03:15] <wxl> [/sarcasm]
[03:16] <wxl> just paste it already :)
 It's a video.
[03:16] <wxl> @teward001 he's got you doing bodies now, too, huh?
[03:17] <wxl> …and ?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<reply to image>], ^ I doubt you will be able to see this in irc.
[03:19] <wxl> dumb
[03:20]  * wxl throws teleirc into a firey blaze
 https://t.me/ldevel2019/74087
 ^ this link works?
[03:22] <wxl> nope
[03:23]  * wxl throws telegram into a nuclear meltdown
 https://youtu.be/x2f4ZbLE4Zg
 ^ This will.
 I saw "Electron blockchain" and wanted to blow up the internet
 *blames @teward001 for dumb bridge* XD
[03:25] <wxl> electron or election?
 Election
[03:25] <wxl> X''''''''''''''''''''''''D no that's definitely @tsimonq2's fault
[03:25] <wxl> phew electron is meh
 It's an app proposed to improve election process in our country.
 @wxl [<wxl> phew electron is meh], +1
 I like the other electron tho. Never allows me to determine it's position and speed accurately together.
 Hope someone gets it. ^
[03:28] <wxl> XD
[03:28] <wxl> i like topological superconductivity, too.
 I haven't dug so far. Just started Quantum mechanics II this sem so probably soon.
 Read a bit of Quantum field theory a couple of days ago. Daamnn!! Ggwp!
[03:54] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i'm good to go on the shortcuts right?
[03:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS57756891d134: Added lximage-qt-screenshot.desktop with NoDisplay=true so it does not appear…] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS57756891d134
 @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i'm good to go on the shortcuts right?], I am still not sure. I think wait. I will remove earlier file in a while.
[03:59] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker come onnnnnnn man
 I might seem over cautious but wait 1/2 please.
[04:03] <wxl> i will take that to mean ½s
 we anyway have to remove that unnecessary file someday. better if we do it beforre putting our own. i think.
[04:08] <wxl> agreed
[04:08] <wxl> but you're taking too looooong
 aslo I should create a new patch right? for removing that file?
 @wxl [<wxl> but you're taking too looooong], CLoning rn. 5 mins
[04:09] <wxl> XD
 5 mins to clone or 5 mins to rm the file?
 doesn't build says there's fuzz
 but I ran quilt refresh
[04:17] <wxl> oops
[04:17] <wxl> what you talking about? let's see your patch
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/P35
[04:19] <wxl> --lang diff
[04:19] <wxl> fyi
 what?
[04:20] <wxl> cat debian/patches/your/patch | arc paste --lang diff
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/P36
[04:21] <wxl> uhhh
[04:21] <wxl> that seems... unlikely
 what should I do?
[04:23] <wxl> did you look at the patch?
 yeah. it looked empty?
[04:23] <wxl> yep
[04:23] <wxl> Nothing in patch remove-conf.patch
 yeah why? I had done quilt new patch and then removed the file.
[04:24] <wxl> so first you don't want to demove debian
[04:24] <wxl> you didn't tell quilt you removed the file
 So I first remove file and then quilt new patch?
 or do I do quilt remove /path/to/file?
[04:26] <wxl> f i remember correctly, you want to `quilt add` the file after `quilt new` and then delete the actual file and `quilt push`
 But I am not adding the file right? or does quilt add adds file to patch and then worls?
 yeah later seems likely.
 I will try again
[04:28] <wxl> quilt add adds the file to the patch
[04:28] <wxl> you're telling it to track that file in the patch
 Ah! same problem occured yesterday I guess when I was hand patching it.
 building now. will be there in a sec
 Again error while building :(
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/P37
 ^ wxl:
 ^^ Anybody ?
[04:39] <wxl> you didn't quilt push
 when before quile new?
 I did.
[04:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc48a6a90ee3b: Fix capitilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc48a6a90ee3b
[04:39] <wxl> oh and also you probably have an .install file in debian putting it in place
[04:40] <wxl> actually a question
[04:40] <wxl> if someone is not on lubuntu and using lxqt-globalkeys, don't they need this to have a sane initial configuration?
 they wull be using upstream release na? not lubuntu's version right?
 *will
[04:41] <wxl> talking about being on ubuntu
[04:41] <wxl> or mate
[04:41] <wxl> or kubuntu
[04:41] <wxl> or xubuntu
[04:41] <wxl> or whatever
[04:41] <wxl> they'd be inclined to grab some the ubuntu repos
 then we need this file I guess. But won't this file mess with xdg one?
 @wxl [<wxl> they'd be inclined to grab some the ubuntu repos], But then they will also have their simillar config file in their *ubuntu-default-settings. won't they?
[04:44] <wxl> you presume too much
[04:44] <wxl> ubuntu doesn't even really think abot lxqt
[04:45] <wxl> just like we don't think about kde or gnome
[04:45] <lynorian> or people that install from minimal and don't install lubuntu-default-settings
 I think I should shut up and let you land D34. we will see what happens
[04:46] <wxl> XDG_CONFIG_DIRS includes /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu followed by /etc/xdg
[04:46] <wxl> that means anything in the former takes precedence over the latter
 ohh! then we are golden.
 @wxl [<wxl> that means anything in the former takes precedence over the latter], I didn't know this.
[04:48] <wxl> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
[04:48] <wxl> you really should read the entirety of the freedesktop specifications
 so land it wxl. and sorry for delay.
 @wxl [<wxl> you really should read the entirety of the freedesktop specifications], ack.
 noted.
 @wxl [<wxl> you really should read the entirety of the freedesktop specifications], Believe me, if you continue on in your Ubuntu (and hopefully Debian) career, there are much worse things you'll have to read
[04:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8d5a1e54f125: Move numlock after login checkbox to the end where it belongs] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8d5a1e54f125
 @tsimonq2 [Believe me, if you continue on in your Ubuntu (and hopefully Debian) career, the …], Ready to do that as long as I don't get deprived of coffee while reading.
[04:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rARTc9253b3cbbe4: add actual suspend button. fixes T110, T111] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rARTc9253b3cbbe4
[04:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9157360ff22f: Move wheel scroll lines to front of paragraph] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9157360ff22f
[05:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALeb50d0049dc6: Move Version Section below usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALeb50d0049dc6
[05:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rART8d1fd8db24ac: oops forgot changelog] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rART8d1fd8db24ac
[05:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALec61d4444f5d: Move version down below screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALec61d4444f5d
[05:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rART1ef3b932b65b: bump debian compatibility stuff] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rART1ef3b932b65b
[05:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rARTd9d4afce0110: i guess debian/compat isn't legacy after all] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rARTd9d4afce0110
[05:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4f1740698fe8: Add brightness confirmation screenshot to brightness] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4f1740698fe8
[05:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL76fbc95cf85e: Remove uneeded likely] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL76fbc95cf85e
[05:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1257b7272db3: Move version below screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1257b7272db3
[05:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS375b8c9d149c: Edited shortcuts] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS375b8c9d149c
[05:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS6701e0013c2e: bump debian compat stuff] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS6701e0013c2e
[05:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf6259423c758: Move version below usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf6259423c758
[05:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3c7da524bfb2: Remove uneeded whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3c7da524bfb2
[05:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfa4704404d2a: Move version under usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfa4704404d2a
[13:20] <crydotsnake-M> Hello! :)
 @The_LoudSpeaker [*blames @teward001 for dumb bridge* XD], ?
[13:25] <crydotsnake-M> How are you all :)
[14:01]  * crydotsnake-M uploaded an image: Screenshot_40.png (4KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/kde.org/NwUwcWIYJwfsmTuoCsVVKQKG >
[14:01] <crydotsnake-M> tsimonq2: Hello!, i would let you know that there is a bug with the Social Icons on the lubuntu.me website!. I see the problem on the Computer, and also on my Smartphone.
 thanks crydotsnake-M
[14:31] <crydotsnake-M> Np :) !
 a lot of lubuntu things landed today: download-fetching lubuntu-artwork, download-fetching lubuntu-default-settings, download-fetching plymouth-theme-lubuntu-logo, download-fetching plymouth-theme-lubuntu-text, download-fetching sddm-theme-lubuntu
 @HMollerCl [a lot of lubuntu things landed today: download-fetching lubuntu-artwork, downloa …], that'd be because Lubuntu is behind on the FF part
 not to mention today is FF
 so these need to land and such before freeze 😛
[14:35]  * crydotsnake-M uploaded an image: lubuntunav.png (4KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/kde.org/FoXtcNLgeziKKoWzAHejFPaj >
[14:35] <crydotsnake-M> Can we maybe change the color of "wiki"?, because its a bit hard to read. Or is that normal?.
 Fwd from negronipepperoni: <negronipepperoni> hey all! just wanted to report something before i have to run off to work. after updating with the STABLE CI Output PPA today many shortcut keys no longer work. particularly FN+ shortcuts for volume, along with using the meta / super key to open the application menu.
 wxl @The_LoudSpeaker ^
 that's in support channel
 Umm you checked in the morning right? It was working.
 He updated from PPA so global configs got changed but local ones didn't. I suppose.
 I still have the order, issue, but I haven't restarted after today upgrade
 "the order" : need to restart panel and launcher so that shorcuts for them take effect
 but I'm now in virtualbox so no Fn keys
 @HMollerCl I am still not well and cannot test. Could someone test on a real machine with an iso created after pushing D34 ?
 And that guy left the channel I suppose. Can't find him on irc.
[16:59] <wxl> yeah i'm sure that's the case
[17:05] <wxl> that thing with the icons is weird
[17:05] <wxl> as far as i can tell that comes from fruitful
 just restarted after today's update, still need to restart panel and runner ofr their shortcuts to take effects.
 maybe globalkeys need to start running before panel and runner?
 because, if I restartart globalkeys, it stop working again (until I restart panel and runner)
 wxl: I'm responding here
 I can't test on a new iso here
 I know that if it works ok with new iso is ood, but still we would need to find a fix if it happens for people who will update from 19.04
 wxl: I will keep responding here ;)
[17:14] <wxl> sorry
 yes, the ones that have special places for shortcuts
[17:14] <wxl> no caffeine yet
 I mean, you can configure directly in panel and in runner
[17:15] <wxl> hm
[17:15]  * lynorian does not partake in caffiene
[17:15] <wxl> can we unconfigure them? :/
 pcmanfm-qt works ok
[17:16] <wxl> and you really mean the keyboard shortcut for the menu in panel
[17:17] <wxl> HAH
[17:17] <wxl> i was going to upgrade yesterdays iso
[17:17] <wxl> nope
[17:17] <wxl> HUGE upgrade
[17:19] <wxl> oh wait wrong iso
[17:20] <wxl> that's much better
[17:20] <wxl> btw did you notice the change to sddm?
[17:21] <wxl> hm so i took yesterday's iso, upgraded to today's packages and did nothing else........ and alt-f2 and super_l do what they're supposed to
[17:29] <kc2bez> The OP in support was using disco not eoan.
[17:30] <wxl> well now that's super bizarre because none of those changes we made were released to disco
[17:30] <wxl> maybe they should be though
[17:30] <kc2bez> they had the ci enabled though
[17:30] <kc2bez> ci ppa
[17:30] <wxl> yeah and i'm not sure what to make of that exactly
[17:31] <kc2bez> yeah, it isn't really a supported thing right?
[17:31] <wxl> btw suspend button in sddm thanks to @Guephren https://share.riseup.net/#KbJtY5BjoDcVwuy4jMOl1A
[17:31] <wxl> i mean i'm not sure
[17:31] <wxl> that doesn't seem like it's exactly consistent with an upgrade to eoan
[17:32] <kc2bez> Well if you were on disco you wouldn't get the default-settings changes
[17:32] <wxl> or the lxqt-globalkeys ones to go with it
[17:32] <wxl> man, i hate drivebys
[17:33] <kc2bez> I know, hang out for a bit and we can work something out.
[17:33] <kc2bez> At least get more info
 wxl: Is there a way to know whic loads first? and change it?
[17:37] <teward> we need a lugito test
[17:37]  * teward nominates wxl to test things
[17:37] <wxl> well lynorian can push something as he always does
[17:37] <wxl> s/he/she/
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98
[17:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Resolved] Cleanup for lubuntu-update-notifier prior to uploading: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98
[17:37] <wxl> or that
[17:37] <lynorian> good job fixing that
[17:37] <wxl> sorry :(
 wxl: what about update-notifier? What's left so it enter in eoan?
[17:39] <wxl> oh
[17:39] <wxl> so a new package
 it's a new package so it doesn't get affected by FF I think
 but anyway
[17:40] <wxl> i've never been through the process of sponsoring one, but i've made one before.. which doesn't help
[17:40] <wxl> teward: do you know?
[17:41] <teward> never sponsored NEW during FF, i think best is to ask #ubuntu-release that one
[17:42] <teward> wxl: see -release
 AIUI it'd be considered 'lower priority' but not 'blocked' during FF
[17:45] <kc2bez> Has anyone tested efi installation on the new iso? I haven't personally had a chance yet is why I am asking.
[17:46] <teward> wxl: is there a specific package that needs uploading?
[17:46] <teward> just curious :P
[17:47] <wxl> kc2bez: if anyone has, i bet it's guiverc. you should track him down when he pops up again.
[17:47] <wxl> teward: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-update-notifier/
[17:47] <wxl> teward: also i had hoped :/ to get sddm-config-editor in
[17:47] <wxl> that may be too ambitious, however
[17:48] <kc2bez> Sounds good. It should run through the guiverc paces.
[17:48] <wxl> (the packaging isn't even started)
[17:48] <kc2bez> In the meantime I will try to get to some tests.
[17:48] <wxl> i really want to put https://i.imgflip.com/38l7v6.jpg in the topic
[17:49] <teward> wxl: running through the standard things for lubuntu-update-notifier - lintian cleanliness, builds, etc.
[17:49] <teward> because i'm a picky SOB :P
[17:49] <wxl> it's ok, it should already be done
[17:50] <wxl> and besides, it should be a standard part of the process!
 I sbuild with evil pedantic and run flake8.
[17:50] <teward> run pylint while you're at it lol
[17:51] <teward> pedantic whining: insecure URL for the copyright format stuff
[17:52] <teward> P: lubuntu-update-notifier source: insecure-copyright-format-uri http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/
[17:52] <wxl> that's legic
[17:52] <teward> also W: lubuntu-update-notifier source: timewarp-standards-version (2019-05-28 < 2019-07-07)
[17:52] <wxl> legit i mean
[17:52] <teward> but i don't think either is going to block things
[17:52] <wxl> wooooooooooooot
[17:52] <teward> those're the two remaining warning items
[17:52] <teward> but i'm picky ;P
[17:53] <teward> *spits lubuntu-update-notifier up into Main*
[17:53] <wxl> um
[17:53] <teward> into NEW *
[17:53] <wxl> i don't understand that standards version concern
[17:53] <teward> wxl: err: mistype, tired, needCoffee
[17:53] <wxl> OH
[17:53] <wxl> the issue is the changelog timestamp is old
[17:53] <teward> wxl: wxl, you derp!  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zgW5ZH2grk/
[17:53] <wxl> 4.4.0 is relatively ne
[17:53] <teward> yep
[17:53] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New source: lubuntu-update-notifier (eoan-proposed/primary) [0.1]
[17:54] <teward> but it's already there ^
[17:54] <teward> needs a NEW review
[17:55] <wxl> oh heh
[17:56] <teward> wxl: so in this case I'm not concerned
[17:56] <teward> i dont' think the timestamp being 'older' is a blocker
 first one is only the https instead of http?
 hep, but it's pedantic
 second one is the timestamps, but also really not much of a concern
 I could solve those issues tonight.
 Lintian passes though 😔
 i mean
 you could
 except
 i already put the package in NEW
 :P
 ok, thanks!
 wxl: I take it that sddm-config-editor is just not ready for inclusion then
 :P
[18:02] <wxl> probably not :/
[18:03] <wxl> the thing builds and functions nice
 mmkay
[18:03] <wxl> there's some initial packaging in Debian but it hasn't been updated and it doesn't build, either off of the current release or the current master
 @wxl [<wxl> probably not :/], whic wash the ppa?
[18:04] <wxl> and to be far, i'd be doing something a little substandard: building off of master. the last release is just a wee bit old
[18:04] <wxl> @HMollerCl it's not in a ppa.. i included a link to the binary
 @wxl [<wxl> and to be far, i'd be doing something a little substandard: building off o …], yeah, that'd be a little bit nasty to track
 the one in lxqt github?
[18:05] <wxl> yeah
[18:05] <wxl> i mean i've seen stuff like that before
 wxl: nm-tray 0.4.3 is already in sid (the one that we packaged)
 and some guy made a ppa with a merge
 https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/10427332/+listing-archive-extra but now says removal requested 4 hours ago...
[18:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd130cca74d82: Add htop filter screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd130cca74d82
[18:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbde0b07da61a: Add interface tab summary for vlc prefrences] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbde0b07da61a
 @HMollerCl [https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+s …], probably because...
 Superseded on 2019-08-21 by nm-tray - 0.4.3-1ubuntu1ppa1
[18:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL36d49d47c617: Reword show controls in fullscreen mode checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL36d49d47c617
 wxl: is there a bug somewhere I have to indicate where I did the lubuntu-software-center upload to NEW ?
[18:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4fcedcdcbfc3: Capitlize VLC many places] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4fcedcdcbfc3
[19:21] <wxl> @teward001 not really
[19:22] <wxl> i don't see that gianfranco has nm-tray in his ppa anymore
[19:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL751d8b1a55b1: Capitilize VLC even more places] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL751d8b1a55b1
 @wxl [<wxl> i don't see that gianfranco has nm-tray in his ppa anymore], the url gives 200, but it says that the removal was requested. Anyway, he told me that if we did it that way, we wouldn't need to care for packaging, but I'm not sure since we already make a patch, the one for nm-tui.
 wxl: did we need to do a test of a UEFI install with the daily?
 I can spin a UEFI-powered VM up
 ... after I get this ITS package i'm working on up to mentors.d.n
[19:46] <kc2bez> That would be great @teward001 , I haven't had a chance yet. I have tested a regular BIOS install just not UEFI yet.
 let me pull the daily and prep the VM
 ... once i'm home in a couple hours lol
[19:47] <kc2bez> no worries. more eyes on it would be good.
[21:07] <tsimonq2> !standup
[21:07] <tsimonq2> OH HELLO
[21:07] <wxl> omg simon is here
[21:07] <wxl> what the heck happened
[21:07] <kc2bez> ack
[21:07] <tsimonq2> ack
[21:07] <tsimonq2> I also don't have a paste prepared.
 hi
[21:07] <lynorian> o\
[21:07] <tsimonq2> So everyone else first XD
 hi
[21:08] <wxl> an important thing for us to remember: https://i.imgflip.com/38l7v6.jpg
[21:08] <kc2bez> XD
 xDDDDD
[21:08] <tsimonq2> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[21:08] <tsimonq2> I love it
[21:09] <wxl> so you're running the show
[21:09] <tsimonq2> ok
[21:09] <tsimonq2> so
[21:09] <tsimonq2> wxl go
[21:09] <wxl> aw hell
[21:09] <lynorian> and transverse fault is lower left :D
[21:09] <wxl> well i don't really have a paste either
[21:09] <wxl> but i have this https://phab.lubuntu.me/feed/query/cgYR.NVcQK7r/?after=6726002865409790427
[21:09] <teward> No paste here either
[21:09] <wxl> sorry this https://phab.lubuntu.me/feed/query/cgYR.NVcQK7r/
[21:10] <teward> But i can give you a summary of stuff I did
 10/10 efficient standup strategy
[21:10] <tsimonq2> XD
 @UniversalSuperBox [10/10 efficient standup strategy], XD
 O/
[21:10] <wxl> two pages of stuff this time so kind of crazy
[21:10] <wxl> working hard to get a lot of stuff in before ff
[21:10] <wxl> big stuff:
[21:11] <wxl>  * shortcuts (finally)
[21:11] <wxl>  * sddm suspend button
[21:11] <wxl>  * remove fcitx-qim-uipanel
[21:11] <wxl> also set out the compton fork and sddm-config-editor for testing
[21:11] <wxl> mostly the results from the latter have been positive, but the former have been mixed, especially, curiously, with radeon devices
[21:12] <wxl> not sure what to think about that
[21:12] <wxl> oh
[21:12] <kc2bez> I can find a radeon box to test on.
[21:12] <wxl> i also did the lxqt-globalkeys patch
[21:12] <wxl> look at guiverc's notes
[21:12] <kc2bez> will do
[21:13] <wxl> also sponsored removal of lximage-qt screenshot
[21:13] <wxl> cala settings (good job dan)
[21:13] <kc2bez> Thanks for that ^
[21:13] <wxl> screengrab 
[21:14] <lynorian> yay screengrab work now although 
[21:14] <wxl> oh and dnd/mtp patch
[21:14] <wxl> so big kudos to raman who powered through some tough stuff
[21:15] <wxl> and that's it for me
[21:15] <tsimonq2> Thanks wxl!
[21:15] <lynorian> also old raedon or newer amdgpu module grpahics ? kc2bez or wxl?
[21:15] <wxl> np
[21:15] <lynorian> thanks
[21:15] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: You're up!
[21:15] <wxl> mmm have to look it up
[21:15] <kc2bez> I have a short paste.
[21:15] <teward> When do i drop my little blurbs lol.
[21:16] <kc2bez> * Tasks
[21:16] <kc2bez> - Most of my time was spent working on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
[21:16] <kc2bez> * Testing
[21:16] <kc2bez> - I was able to test https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
[21:16] <kc2bez> - It seemed to work well for me. I think if there is more development in that fork it is probably the best approach.
[21:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Resolved] Clean up calamares settings: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
[21:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] investigate yshui's compton fork: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
[21:16] <kc2bez> * TODO
[21:16] <kc2bez> - Send out a notification re: Wallpaper contest to get your submissions in. 
[21:16] <kc2bez> * OF NOTE
[21:16] <kc2bez> Work has been busy, next week our semester starts. Usually things cut back a bit after the first week or so. I'll be here as much as I can.
[21:16] <wxl> lynorian: mainly dell optiplex so amd/ati (cedar) radeon
[21:17] <kc2bez> I have a couple of older ati cards too so they would be close in comparison.
[21:17] <wxl> did you test on those?
[21:17] <tsimonq2> Thanks kc2bez :)
[21:17] <kc2bez> That is it from me
[21:17] <wxl> cuz i only saw a test on intel
[21:17] <kc2bez> Right I haven't yet but I will
[21:18] <wxl> looks like bjlockie is using nouveau
[21:18] <kc2bez> eww
[21:18] <wxl> their notes are hard to parse
[21:19] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: Thanks for your work!
[21:19] <tsimonq2> Since teward is DYING to paste his summary...
[21:19] <tsimonq2> GO
[21:19] <teward> Infrastructure: Made Lugio, CodiMD, and TeleIRC runnable via SystemD units and to autostart.
[21:19] <tsimonq2> :)
[21:19] <teward> Packages: Uploaded lubuntu-update-notifier to NEW.
[21:19] <teward> Todo: UEFI installer tests for daily ISOs
[21:19] <tsimonq2> teward: We'll have to have a talk about that. :P
[21:19] <teward> Also, it is ALWAYS Simon’s fault
[21:20] <teward> @tsimomq2 wxl asked :P
[21:20] <wxl> thx teward
[21:20] <tsimonq2> teward: Yo dawg, can ya not step on toes and at least let me review one more time when I had outstanding issues before you upload. :P
[21:20] <wxl> well to be fair, @HMollerCl asked
[21:20] <tsimonq2> It's whatever. :)
[21:20] <teward> wxl’s fault tho he said it was ready and asked it to be uploaded proxying the req from HMollerCl
[21:20] <wxl> i was merely inquiring about what is involved with sponsoring new packages as i had never done
[21:20] <wxl> pffhhht
[21:20] <wxl> dude you're all wrong
[21:20] <teward> In any case, its still NEW it can be NACKed and rejected easily
[21:21] <wxl> https://i.imgflip.com/38l7v6.jpg
[21:21] <tsimonq2> mmmkay
[21:21] <teward> Oh SMTP tests fir Phab tomorrow w.
[21:21] <teward> Bleh darn phone.  So phab mail is being worked on
[21:21] <tsimonq2> I'll go, then it'll be Hans, Lyn, @N0um3n0, and Raman
[21:21] <wxl> oh i added teward to the lubuntu-team on github
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Then anyone else
[21:21] <wxl> he's fixing some security issues there
[21:21] <tsimonq2> nice nice
[21:22] <teward> wxl: for lugito, yes.  (Fixed it already)
 what? XD
[21:23] <wxl> OH
[21:24] <wxl> did i mention? @Guephren had his first contribution
 Congo!
[21:25] <tsimonq2> Nice work teward 
[21:25] <tsimonq2>  - I've been recovering from $illness, so short week.
[21:25] <tsimonq2>  - Feature Freeze is today, get yer stuff in!
[21:25] <tsimonq2>  - Reviewed https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D32 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D33 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D34
[21:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] added screengrab: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D30
[21:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fix DND MTP Bug: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D32
[21:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Clean up Calamares settings.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D33
[21:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Edited shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D34
[21:25] <tsimonq2>  - Authored https://phab.lubuntu.me/D35 which is a start to refactoring the contributions guide.
[21:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] [WIP] Add more content to the Contributing Guide: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D35
[21:25] <tsimonq2>  - Helped with server outage due to internal accounting issue, thanks to teward and wxl for helping out.
[21:25] <tsimonq2>  - Helped Hans decipher Lintian stuff, always fun.
[21:25] <tsimonq2>  - Asked LocutusOfBorg to come here to discuss his nm-tray merge, he has a PPA that needs testing.
[21:25] <tsimonq2>  - Authored a tweet saying how proud I am of y'all: https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1163964391764713477 https://twitter.com/tsimonquigley2/status/1163965180771995648 <3
[21:26] <tsimonq2>  - Gave @Schyken access to author tweets, and he's been doing a good job at that. Let me know if you want in.
[21:26] <tsimonq2> Questions?
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> - Asked LocutusOfBorg to come here to discuss his nm-tray merge, he h …], his ppa has a removal request 5 hours ago
 https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/10427332/+listing-archive-extra
[21:28] <tsimonq2> Got it
[21:29] <wxl> could you follow up with him on that?
[21:29] <wxl> @tsimonq2: ^
[21:30] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New: rejected lubuntu-update-notifier [source] (eoan-proposed) [0.1]
[21:30] <wxl> ^ what else does that need?
[21:31] <tsimonq2> I'll take a look.
[21:31] <tsimonq2> Next is @HMollerCl
 ok
[21:31] <wxl> thanks
 Tomorrow is my presentatio in ubuconla, so making odp.
 ATB
 I want to upload to hear some comments, where can I?
 I understand that takes a while
 besides that:
 added sreengrab T84
 hide lximage-qt -s .desktop T84 D36
[21:33] <wxl> notes.lubuntu.me
[21:33] <wxl> err
[21:33] <wxl> maybe not
[21:33] <wxl> uhhh
 update-notifier thanks to @teward T97, T98 (recently rejected)
 Talk with lxqt because of his icon selection.
[21:33] <wxl> can you export to some web friendly format?
 pdf works?
 it's small.
[21:34] <wxl> yeah sure
 for the ones in telegram thjere it is
 I will also bring an atom 64bit 2Gb RAM netbook and a celeron T5600 4Gb Ram notebook so they can see how LXQt run
 that would be from my side
 Can I go now? It's 3am. Sorry to interrupt.
[21:37] <lynorian> sure
 go
 Thanks.
 One sec
[21:37] <wxl> did you want to go raman?
 Nothing much except this: … Tasks: … FIX DND MTP: had to hand edit the patch … phab.lubuntu.me/T99
 Shortcuts: put both lxqt-globalkeys and openbox conf together in D34 … phab.lubuntu.me/T59
 Screengrab: replaced older screenshot utility with screengrab. Included in D34. … phab.lubuntu.me/T84
 Grub theme: asked mate forum how they did it. Got the idea. But also got sick. So maybe wait a couple of days for thems to get in. … phab.lubuntu.me/T30
 Xscreensaver: listed which are good from the ones currently shipped. Have to dig in more. Will do.  … phab.lubuntu.me/T21
 To-do: … Think a way to get shortcuts into disco. T59 had dealt with eoan. Will create a new task.
 Get theme in. Release manager (@tsimonq2) do you mind if it's a couple of days after FF?
 Xscreensaver
 Misc: … Discarded 2 mails to users list.
 When is the wallpaper contest ending? @tsimonq2 get the Instagram credentials. We can run it on Instagram.
 That's it.
 Any questions?
[21:39] <tsimonq2> I'm going to assume it's a "Lubuntu package, Lubuntu rules" type thing, and since FF is a soft freeze, I'm personally fine with breaking it.
[21:40] <wxl> theme/xscreensaver should be ui anyways
[21:40] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> I'm going to assume it's a "Lubuntu package, Lubuntu rules" type thin …], Thanks!
 Anything else?
[21:41] <tsimonq2> Nothing from me.
[21:41] <tsimonq2> @N0um3n0?
[21:41] <tsimonq2> You go now :)
[21:41] <wxl> thanks raman
[21:41] <wxl> and really really good job
 not much this week
 Thanks bye!
 answered https://phab.lubuntu.me/T103 … answered https://phab.lubuntu.me/T104 … answered https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/csge7z/ibus_doenst_work/ … created italian, chinese, german, japanese groups … why isn't hans here?  https://phab.lubuntu.me/project/members/9/ … Can you create in discourse, support for Spanish and Portug
[21:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Properly deal with translations on the blog: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T103
[21:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Get translations going again: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T104
 and starting to translate the blog
[21:43] <wxl> hans added
[21:43] <wxl> +1 on doc
[21:43] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:43] <tsimonq2> Send it to the LC and we'll give you the official go-ahead.
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Send it to the LC and we'll give you the official go-ahead.], perfect ;)
 I'll do that
[21:45] <tsimonq2> Sweet!
[21:45] <tsimonq2> Anything else?
[21:45] <lynorian> Yay translation finally baout to go
[21:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2192
[21:45] <wxl> is it, though?
[21:46] <lynorian> search through tabs with & in firefox and downaward arrow
[21:46] <lynorian> firefox launching through quick launch
[21:46] <lynorian> vlc tray icon missing options finished
[21:46] <lynorian> quit trojia from system tray
[21:46] <lynorian> server options on right click on quassel
[21:46] <lynorian> show hide chats on right click
[21:46] <lynorian> obconf-margins screenshot
[21:46] <lynorian> fix previous back buttons
[21:46] <lynorian> remove innacurate stuff from appendix D upgrading
[21:46] <lynorian> explain crit temperture on sensors
[21:46] <lynorian> added lockscreen 
[21:46] <lynorian> Rewrite launching software sources
[21:46] <lynorian> remove :
[21:46] <lynorian> fix capitilzation
[21:46] <lynorian> merged simon adding stuff to contributing guide thanks
[21:46] <lynorian> move stuff to flow like version below usage and 
[21:46] <lynorian> htop filter screenshot
[21:46] <lynorian> capitlize VLC
[21:47] <wxl> great work!
[21:48] <teward> tsimonq2 spammer confirmed
[21:48] <teward> Kban from IRC.
 Question
[21:48] <lynorian> and upgrading stuff I need done for 19.10 after feature freeze so won't get changed twice
[21:48] <tsimonq2> ^^^^^
 in the manual appear this: Translators:  Marcin Mikołajczak
[21:48] <tsimonq2> Anyone else around?
 who is this guy?
[21:49] <lynorian> That was way back from like 18.04 days stuff and I haven't seen him around in a while
[21:49] <guiverc2> I've done minimal sorry, I've not been on top of health/pain problems so everything I've done has been very short & things needing minimal-no concentration (askubu,ubuforum), testcases haven't advanced from my local system
[21:49] <wxl> he was one of the google code-in kids
[21:49] <tsimonq2> ^^^
[21:49] <wxl> he was actually really cool
[21:49] <tsimonq2> SPEAKING OF WHICH
[21:49] <tsimonq2> When's that again?
[21:49] <tsimonq2> We gotta hop on that train
[21:49] <tsimonq2> idc if we do it as Lubuntu :)
[21:49] <teward> Never again.  *shot* (loljk)
[21:49] <tsimonq2> (I mean we totally could)
[21:57] <wxl> GCI is usually 7-8 weeks during Northern Hemisphere winters
[21:58] <tsimonq2> ok
[21:58] <tsimonq2> Now
[21:58] <tsimonq2> I understand we have an AOB point
[21:58] <wxl> not everyone groks your acronyms
[21:59] <tsimonq2> Any Other Business
[21:59] <tsimonq2> teward: ^^^^^^^^
[21:59] <teward> Yeah we need to better document what needs review for NEW uploads
[21:59] <teward> And restrict access to closing those tasks to relevant uploaders
[22:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8a321e326743: Update screenshot for pavucontrol-playback with more complicated setup] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8a321e326743
[22:00] <teward> I sent Simon a summary of my thoughts in PM for how to go forward, but its necessary to avoid toe stepping like earlier.
[22:00] <teward> As a team we should come up with a good documenting and workflow approach for this
[22:01] <tsimonq2> He suggested using Phab's Kanban more, I think that's a good idea.
[22:02] <wxl> well it would also help if simon would ever reply to his review requests............................................................................................
[22:02] <wxl> ......................................................................................................
[22:02] <wxl> ......................................................................................................
[22:02] <wxl> ......................................................................................................
[22:02] <tsimonq2> That's part of the problem, I don't know that I have them
[22:02] <tsimonq2> I want to be able to look at one big "needs review" thing
[22:02] <wxl> where's the documentation?
[22:03] <tsimonq2> I'll take this on and reorganize Kanban.
[22:03] <wxl> everytime i look on phab, i see the reviews i'm waiting on
[22:05] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#wigRUyLWi1A-Znlb5AFaKw
[22:07] <wxl> complaints about phabricator #23761378618726123786: the best documentation for it is on mediawiki, not phabricator's actual documentation
[22:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL14fe0208a11e: Move version below usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL14fe0208a11e
[22:08] <wxl> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Kanban_in_Phabricator
[22:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8c1a5e868297: Reword scoring sentence] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8c1a5e868297
[22:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1049536f3f2b: Add sentnce on how rest of blocks move] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1049536f3f2b
[22:51] <tsimonq2> New rule: all new tasks get a project.
[22:51] <tsimonq2> The goal from here is going to be to use Kanban to sort the darn things out.
[22:51] <tsimonq2> I wonder if I can even do diffs with Kanban, hm.
[22:52] <wxl> phab doesn't really have kanban
[22:52] <wxl> they just have workboards
[22:52] <tsimonq2> Okay, workboards.
[22:54] <wxl> workboards can only contain tasks afaik
[22:55] <wxl> each project can have many workboards, which can be thought of like states
[22:56] <wxl> for example, the phabricator workboard workboards https://secure.phabricator.com/project/view/773/
[22:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T114: Make packaging docs clearer] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T114
[22:57] <tsimonq2> okay
[22:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc020dea0d3dd: Remove duplicate note editor font] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc020dea0d3dd
[22:58] <wxl> here's a kanban from wikimedia's analytics team https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/analytics-kanban/
[22:59] <wxl> somehow this feeds into it https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/11/
[23:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7a3d00fad71f: Move version below usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7a3d00fad71f
[23:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL78bcb8ac5a19: Remove How to open prefrences from paragrph about qlipper] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL78bcb8ac5a19
[23:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5ab3895bfa5c: Capitlize start of pcmanfm-qt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5ab3895bfa5c
 https://twitter.com/tsimonquigley2/status/1164682464700305408?s=09
 @tsimonq2 are tasks for lubuntu here?
[23:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Qt 4 Removal] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115
[23:39] <tsimonq2> ^ :)
[23:54] <tsimonq2> Oh, yes, so that does apply to us.
[23:57] <tsimonq2> Grabbing an ISO to see what gets removed if I remove Qt 4 from the system.