[00:21] <n-iCe> hi
[01:28] <Guest34584> how to du -s in real size of bytes?
 Guest34584: uhm..... `du -s` *is* in bytes...
 what do you mean by 'real size of bytes'?
 oh wait i'm an idiot
 i have `du` aliased to `du -b`
 Guest34584: add the `-b` argument flag perhaps?
[01:40] <Guest34584> thx
[06:50] <lalitmee> Hey guys, I just connected an extenal screen to my system. Now the problem I am facing is that the resolution for the extenal screen is same as the laptop screen. So everything is looking so big on the screen. I want to change that. but the problem is that in monitor setting the resolution which is set is the highest resolution. What can be done?
 Which version?
[12:34] <guiverc2> lalitmee, have you tried preferences->monitor.settings (https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.10/monitor_settings.html?highlight=resolution in the Lubuntu manual [19.04])
[13:20] <crydotsnake-M> Hello! :)
[15:29] <negronipepperoni> hey all! just wanted to report something before i have to run off to work. after updating with the STABLE CI Output PPA today many shortcut keys no longer work. particularly FN+ shortcuts for volume, along with using the meta / super key to open the application menu.
[15:31] <negronipepperoni> this is on disco btw. i've been using the ppa for over of month with no issues until now. i compared several conf files under ~/.config/openbox and ~/.config/lxqt with a backup from 2 days earlier and they all seem to be in order, so i'm not sure exactly what's causing this.
 @negronipepperoni: The changes were pushed today and global configs were updated. Could you please create a new user and log into that and check if the problem persists?
[19:29] <RinoceronteFeroz> hola
 hola, en este grupo inglés, en lubuntues español.
 perdón #expositores #lubuntu-es
 here english.
[19:36] <lubu2> How do you install packages from the terminal in lubuntu?
[19:36] <wxl> `sudo apt update && sudo apt install PACKAGE`
[19:37] <lubu2> is there a way to install the more up do date firefox?
[19:37] <wxl> you can install the most recent one available in the ubuntu repos, otherwise you can try unsupported methods
[19:37] <wxl> let me guess: you're on 18.04?
[19:37] <lubu2> No im on 19
[19:38] <lubu2> I just ran the latest version by opening the executable but i wanted to properly install it
 I  think I found a bug in the 18.04.3 installer (iso on usb). on an legacy bios system, wanting to keep an existing windows installation. At the end of the installation process,  the installer wants to install an efi bootloader (and fails, so you will not get a linux dual boot with windows), and warns also that this will not work. The
[19:38] <wxl> the version available on firefox's website is 68.0.2
[19:38] <wxl> here's what's in 19.04:
[19:38] <wxl> !info firefox disco
[19:38] <wxl> i.e., they're the same
[19:39] <lubu2> Hmm, that's strange
[19:39] <wxl> @roheve i suspect you'll see the same problems with all of the 18.04 installers, i.e. lubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc. they all use ubiquity. i'd file a bug against it.
[19:40] <lubu2> Ah, I'm still new to linux. Wouldn't want to file a bug without knowing clearly what it is. Thanks for the help though, I guess I'll look into it a bit more.
 btw 18.04.2 vs 18.04.3 install. It is more compl;icated, the i386 version installs just fine, the x64 version has this EFI System partition issue on a system with a legacy bios.
 Now trying to 'upgrade' install the i386 version 18.04.3 with the x64 version using the 18.04.2 iso/usb, but it mentioned an ESP partition, so let's see if that works.
 i386 does not install in UEFI mode. If you boot the amd64 version in BIOS mode, it should install also without problem
[20:13] <wxl> @roheve again, you're welcome to file a bug against ubiquity. we've since dropped it. you won't have the same problem with 19.04+
[20:21] <negronipepperoni> hey again folks. just got back from a gig. wanted to make sure that my comments regarding the latest stack of lxqt packages from the STABLE CI Output PPA were noted. in-case no one saw it earlier, with the latest packages from the PPA many shortcut keys became broken. after a little further inspection, no key combination will activate the application menu in the panel, and any combos with the Fn key were rendered broken as
[20:21] <negronipepperoni> well. I also inspected ~/.config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf and after the upgrade to this set of packages today, that file became loaded with duplicate entries for shortcut keys. almost every one of them was duplicated five times in increments within the conf file. i have disabled the PPA for now and reverted pack to official packages, but i hope this info is helpful, as the PPA has improved my experience of lubuntu and
[20:21] <negronipepperoni> lxqt massively up to this point (with nice little fixes like image previews in the file chooser, and improved panel widgets).
[20:25] <wxl> negronipepperoni: i can't say that's exactly a supported methodology
[20:26] <wxl> i mean, we package eoan apps for eoan not disco
[20:27] <teward> negronipepperoni: if you are trying to tset the Stable CI against Disco you will fail
[20:27] <teward> test Eoan (StableCI) against Eoan only
[20:27] <teward> it's not built for Disco, so if you ARE testing these on Disco, you are at fault here because E:UnsupportedConfiguration
[20:28] <negronipepperoni> i'm referring to this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable-ci?field.series_filter=disco which is providing me with packages for disco. i'm not on eoan, and not using eoan packages.
[20:31] <kc2bez> well the ppa does indicate Work In Progress in bold. It also suggests testing the same operation on the daily iso image.
[20:32] <negronipepperoni> of-course, just reporting an issue. appreciate the work.
[20:32] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lxqt-globalkeys/browse/ci%252Fstable/debian/changelog
[20:32] <wxl> ^ that's ci/stable
[20:32] <wxl> note the changelog entry clearly says "eoan"
[20:32] <wxl> so though the ppa publishes packages for disco, they're not built for it
 which MEANS that, you're testing an Eoan package on Disco and that's not really 'supported' here, whether the PPA publishes for Disco or not
[20:33] <wxl> the ci packages really exist for the purposes of testing
[20:33] <wxl> they're not really meant for production
[20:34] <wxl> you'd probably have better luck running eoan itself
 ^ this
 which goes back to what I was saying: if you want to test the packages / stable-ci versions, you should start by running Eoan 😜
[20:36] <negronipepperoni> ahhh, OK. wasn't clear to me in the PPA description (though i can see how it's hinted at now), and the disco packages having worked perfectly for so long gave me the impression that these were perfectly fine for those of us on disco as well. darn. lubuntu is my work OS, so i guess i'll leave the PPA disabled for now.
[20:37] <negronipepperoni> thanks anyway for giving me several months of an improved lubuntu though!
 upgrading the 18.04.3 i386 version to x64 does produce a bootable lubuntu system, but hides te windows partition (and so no dualboot). It seems to configure UEFI (through in the bios 'legacy mode' is active).  So for that system, I'll stick with the i386 version to have a LTS version. I will not be using that system myself, so it shoul