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ubptgbotRenaldiGP was added by: RenaldiGP00:01
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ubptgbot<ian_mcxa> It just says I don't have enough space on the device00:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> If you want to build on device, it's best to do it in a libertine container00:48
ubptgbot<ian_mcxa> alright01:02
ubptgbotfcabanilla was added by: fcabanilla01:19
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @Fuseteam [also i find it interesting that canonical historically put 32M as a funding goal …], i think it was symbolic too01:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @mateosalta [i think it was symbolic too], eh? how so?01:36
ubptgbot<mateosalta> described as a ferarri of phones, some vintage ferarris were around that much at the time, an since it was a long shot - compare to going to the moon, an article jan that year said plans for a 32 million per stay moon hotel was being planef01:45
ubptgbot<mateosalta> in the long run, what they proposed in the campaign would have taken way more money01:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mateosalta [described as a ferarri of phones, some vintage ferarris were around that much at …], i don't recall any "ferrari of phones" description (though F1 was certainly related). also, you could already literally buy a "ferrari phone" for some ridiculous amount of money, thanks to Ferrari's marketing partnerships01:53
ubptgbot<mateosalta> https://particolarmente-urgentissimo.blogspot.com/2013/08/ubuntu-edge-lo-voglio.html?m=101:55
ubptgbot<mateosalta> its a streach, but i believe they were completly prepared for the campaign to fail, and ride the wave of intrest generated01:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> oh, well i don't read italian blogs :)01:57
ubptgbot<mateosalta> https://www.dialaflight.com/blog/32-million-to-stay-in-inflatable-space-hotel_100074.html02:05
ubptgbotabhishekpandey7148 was added by: abhishekpandey714802:18
ubptgbotCourd Headman was added by: Courd Headman03:06
ubptgbotUmang Vanani was added by: Umang Vanani03:15
ubptgbot<Courd Headman> hey guys, looking for opinions, about 10 months ago I bought a nexus 5 for ubports and tried to get it to work for about a week with no success. I reached out to this telegram group and got some amount of support, but eventually I gave up and returned the phone. today I dropped my main phone and shattered the screen. I would love to03:36
ubptgbot buy an ubuntu phone or a phone I can easily flash. the fairphone 2 seems impossible to find. is there a good solution for someone that wants to get started and run ubuntu on thier phone? is running Ubuntu worth the effort? Is there a forseeable future for ubuntu touch?03:36
ubptgbot<WolfLarson> wrong group to ask03:56
ubptgbot<WolfLarson> get a feature phone (android) and a dev phone for learning utouch imho03:57
ubptgbot<WolfLarson> it could work if your willing to take the pain but for most users its not ready to replace a daily driver03:57
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> @Courd Headman [hey guys, looking for opinions, about 10 months ago I bought a nexus 5 for ubpor …], I would say if your dead set on switching to UT for your next phone, the N5 and OPO are probably the most popular options, however as Wolf said, if you dont know if UT will work for your needs or not, then a secondary device would be reco04:53
ubptgbotmmended for figure that part out.04:53
ubptgbot<nocomp> hi folks05:29
ubptgbot<nocomp> i am in the finals steps before complete switch05:29
ubptgbot<nocomp> need to have a google free phone asap05:29
ubptgbot<nocomp> i ve noticed one thing05:29
ubptgbot<nocomp> i can t import contact list05:29
ubptgbot<nocomp> it need to come from google or sim :/05:30
ubptgbot<nocomp> no alternatives?05:30
ubptgbot<mark alexa> @fredldotme [Just rewatched the Ubuntu Phone Industry Proposition video, almost shed a tear], Would you post that video ?05:39
ubptgbot<Danfro> @nocomp [i can t import contact list], copy a vcf file to your phone, open filemanager, tap the file, open with contacts, they should then be imported.06:04
ubptgbot<mark alexa> Is @Christian Pauly in this group chat ? I'd like to say a massive big thank you for making Mastodon possible on UT. It's not as snappy as on other platforms but I really do see the effort !06:05
ubptgbot<nocomp> @Danfro [copy a vcf file to your phone, open filemanager, tap the file, open with contact …], Merci!!! Will try06:08
ubptgbot<Danfro> @nocomp [Merci!!! Will try], one vcf with several contacts will work. And you can export contacts to vcf for backup. Have fun!06:13
ubptgbotasporykhin was added by: asporykhin06:23
ubptgbotDvashik was added by: Dvashik06:25
ubptgbot<Flohack> @nocomp [it need to come from google or sim :/], Import from SIM should be possible with the contacts app06:31
ubptgbot<nocomp> Dont want contacts in sim06:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> @nocomp [Dont want contacts in sim], Read this https://askubuntu.com/questions/360466/how-do-i-sync-contacts-on-ubuntu-touch06:37
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @nocomp [Dont want contacts in sim], Read above06:39
ubptgbot<nocomp> thxx06:49
ubptgbot<fredldotme> @mark alexa [Would you post that video ?], That's the full length video, the phone stuff starts at something like 5 minutes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU08:19
ubptgbot<thepeter> Hey people, is it possible that new messaging app does nothing dividendy long messages to more lines? is there a Bug filled about it? :)09:13
ubptgbot<thepeter> Uhm ehm "...does not didvide long messages..."09:23
ubptgbot<Flohack> HMm messages larger then 160 chars should be fine normally...09:26
ubptgbot<Flohack> I can test it, can one send an sms to himself?09:27
ubptgbot<Flohack> 😆09:27
ubptgbotnurwahid_nwhd was added by: nurwahid_nwhd09:30
ubptgbot<SirBouncyDaRoo> Wonder if ut will compete with android soon09:43
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @ian_mcxa [I'll give it a shot], Once I got `crossbuilder` set up properly, it's been fine.  But I did lock myself out of my device the first time I used it and had to reset my OSK manually via. SSH.  It's been completely reliable since (I've been using it for many months now, for various customisations).10:05
ubptgbot<dashinfantry> https://www.fxtec.com/pro1/10:45
ubptgbot<dashinfantry> Do you want to port Ubuntu to it?10:45
ubptgbot<dashinfantry> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/g8KQ22Ti.webp10:45
ubptgbot<dashinfantry> 😁10:45
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @TartanSpartan [Does UBP forum etiquette permit users to paste a *large* log file directly into …], Not sure if I received an answer for that question...?11:02
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> @TartanSpartan [Not sure if I received an answer for that question...?], Use a pastebin11:03
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/OgtsYbt6.webp11:18
ubptgbot<LedBass> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/aBGU9ad4.png11:23
ubptgbot<LedBass> How beautiful is this?11:23
ubptgbot<nocomp> @Danfro [one vcf with several contacts will work. And you can export contacts to vcf for …], hi, no vcf export from google contact just csv :/11:28
ubptgbot<nocomp> oups vcard = vcf11:29
ubptgbot<nocomp> sorry didn t knew11:29
ubptgbot<LedBass> Does anyone know how to take screenshots on TU?11:32
ubptgbot<LedBass> UT11:32
ubptgbot<nocomp> i think u need to press vol up + vol down together11:33
ubptgbot<LedBass> Ok, thanks11:33
ubptgbot<thepeter> @Flohack [HMm messages larger then 160 chars should be fine normally...], It's interresting it happend only with one message, straight next is just in two lines12:17
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @LedBass [<reply to media>], what phone is that?12:28
ubptgbot<thepeter> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/CFi1OqqP.png12:29
ubptgbot<Flohack> @thepeter [<reply to media>], What can we see here?12:30
ubptgbot<thepeter> The message at 10:08 goes all in one oine12:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Flohack [What can we see here?], [REDACTED]12:31
ubptgbot<thepeter> Line ^12:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> @thepeter [The message at 10:08 goes all in one oine], oh, a rendering issue?12:31
ubptgbot<thepeter> @dohbee [oh, a rendering issue?], Dunno just to let you know that this happend to je today12:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> @thepeter [The message at 10:08 goes all in one oine], Ahhhh ok undestood12:32
ubptgbot<thepeter> Btw IT IS not possible to use slide to the side menu on that one12:32
ubptgbot<thepeter> Oh this aotocorretions are killing me12:33
ubptgbot<thepeter> Heh12:33
ubptgbot<thepeter> Anyway just to let you know that this might happend under so far unknown circumstances12:35
ubptgbot<Flohack> @thepeter [Oh this aotocorretions are killing me], Turn them off, much better ^^12:38
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Workaround, not fix12:51
ubptgbotjoeybartolo89 was added by: joeybartolo8912:51
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> yeah - I had to completely turn off auto-correct myself - it makes the typing experience pretty awful from what I've seen13:16
ubptgbot<Cesar_Herrera> @TotalSonic [yeah - I had to completely turn off auto-correct myself - it makes the typing ex …], ok13:20
ubptgbotKachel was added by: Kachel13:38
ubptgbot<GiovanniStaiano> Is it better Sailbook or Pesbuk?13:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Try them, see which you prefer for your use13:40
ubptgbot<GiovanniStaiano> 👍13:40
ubptgbot<noisebro> @LedBass [<reply to media>], Not really. Dusty keyboard ruins it all13:54
ubptgbot<Danfro> @nocomp [hi, no vcf export from google contact just csv :/], So did you get it working?14:06
ubptgbot<LedBass> @Javacookies [what phone is that?], That's a Nexus 414:07
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @GiovanniStaiano [Is it better Sailbook or Pesbuk?], they're both webapps with their own implementation of UI, it's a matter of preference, but yeah try both 😉14:16
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> I love the new bootsplash image on N5. I had to turn off and on again just to see it again. 👍🏻14:20
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @ian_mcxa, did you get it building?14:27
ubptgbot<ian_mcxa> not yet, I couldn't get it to build on the phone so I tried crossbuilder, but then that seems to have left my lxd package in some kind of broken state. I'll look into it more when I'm off work tonight14:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hmm, okay. Let me know14:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> @noisebro [Not really. Dusty keyboard ruins it all], more like SuruDark ruins it14:31
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @alan_griffiths [I love the new bootsplash image on N5. I had to turn off and on again just to se …], MX4 doesn't get one I suppose14:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Javacookies [MX4 doesn't get one I suppose], none of the retail ubuntu edition devices do14:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> iiuc14:40
ubptgbot<Javacookies> okay I see, I guess it's for the safety of the devices 😁14:41
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> @dohbee [i don't recall any "ferrari of phones" description (though F1 was certainly rela …], Yeah, I walked by a BMW kiosk in the mall and they had a BMW bicycle for sale!14:41
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> @Courd Headman [hey guys, looking for opinions, about 10 months ago I bought a nexus 5 for ubpor …], Ubuntu Touch is going forward. It will be released for the new PinePhone that is coming out later this year. But to stay away from bugs in device ports that are in progress, I would stick with an original Ubuntu Edition phone like th14:44
ubptgbote BQ or Meizu. You can find them secondhand on ebay.14:44
ubptgbot<gwado> @thepeter [<reply to media>], I have the same when people send me a text in MMS. … Options (swap) are disabled if there is only text. If there is picture, i can swapping and copy/paste the text to see the entire message. … Well, this a problem with line break for MMS Text.15:14
ubptgbotpossiblerunaway was added by: possiblerunaway15:19
ubptgbotAntonio was added by: Antonio15:38
ubptgbot<advocatux> Hi, welcome! Please take a look to https://ubports.com/meet-the-community to get you up to speed. … There are language focus groups available too :)15:40
ubptgbot<possiblerunaway> ok15:42
ubptgbotcsl17 was added by: csl1716:49
ubptgbotJied83 was added by: Jied8316:59
ubptgbotWendy Nelson was added by: Wendy Nelson18:19
ubptgbot<Wendy Nelson> (Photo, 480x640) https://irc.ubports.com/dYsh5H52.png18:19
ubptgbot<Wendy Nelson> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/Q3PnF2rK.png18:19
ubptgbot<Wendy Nelson> jghazqdpzcb18:19
ubptgbot<Wendy Nelson> [Edit] http://bit.ly/2YVlqB2?148918:19
ubptgbot<noisebro> Wendy send nudes18:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> @noisebro [Wendy send nudes], seriously, stop with the inappropriate comments18:20
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> spam meets rudeness - we could use with less of both18:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Wendy Nelson [http://bit.ly/2YVlqB2?1489], @mariogrip @advocatux @UniversalSuperBox @wayneoutthere @Flohack spammer18:21
ubptgbot<mariogrip> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/y3SPvpZE.mp418:22
ubptgbot<noisebro> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/MjboT7Vq.mp418:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> grr github. if i didn't change the review status beyond adding comments, DO NOT CHANGE THE BLOODY REVIEW STATUS18:28
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Did El Spammo get 'remedied'?18:57
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> looks like it.. deleted anyway.  sorry for slow response18:57
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> @wayneoutthere [looks like it.. deleted anyway.  sorry for slow response], Hey Wayne! Love your audiocasts! Gonna listen to all of them!19:11
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/muTkusQk.mp419:14
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> i really really tried to find a better gif but alas...19:15
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> the best ones are the ones with guests because my mouth is shut more.  Check out Krille Kast and Bri Cast19:15
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> @wayneoutthere [the best ones are the ones with guests because my mouth is shut more.  Check out …], She will lol19:16
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> @wayneoutthere [the best ones are the ones with guests because my mouth is shut more.  Check out …], [Edit] Sure will lol19:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/KlpYBfd4.mp419:17
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @exar_kun introduced me to that cartoon. it's so.. weird.  and awesome.19:18
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> so here is an interesting statisic.  The porting audiocast has recieved DOUBLE the listenership over any of the other UBports stuff.  @UniversalSuperBox we might as well quit and go hom.e19:19
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> App Dev also killed us19:20
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> @dohbee [<reply to media>], That'll learn 'em lol19:20
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> @wayneoutthere [so here is an interesting statisic.  The porting audiocast has recieved DOUBLE t …], Bah humbug! Keep up the good work!19:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/KJA5Kh46.mp419:22
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> i know we don't get along,  rodney but I like your brain and your gifs19:23
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> i believe after 5 years you'll like me!19:24
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> @dohbee [<reply to media>], RIP19:25
ubptgbot<John (Marlin)> But we're all family . . .19:26
ubptgbotJerry Hidalgo was added by: Jerry Hidalgo19:35
ubptgbot<Jerry Hidalgo> (Photo, 400x400) https://irc.ubports.com/OnwkAwU3.png19:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> no thanks19:35
ubptgbot<Jerry Hidalgo> (Photo, 1280x704) https://irc.ubports.com/6C4lZMfJ.png19:35
ubptgbot<advocatux> Fixed19:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> quickdraw mctux19:35
ubptgbot<advocatux> (Sticker, 512x128) https://irc.ubports.com/zJvp8ZM0.webp19:36
ubptgbot<BaHKoTo> Hallo, from today im using Ubuntu Touch. My question is for what is first two icons (mail,lock). Thank You for great OS :)20:20
ubptgbot<BaHKoTo> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/1XyJ0zWM.png20:20
ubptgbot<thepeter> @gwado [I have the same when people send me a text in MMS. … Options (swap) are disabled i …], Oh that might explain a lot, thanks :)20:22
ubptgbot<Danfro> @BaHKoTo [Hallo, from today im using Ubuntu Touch. My question is for what is first two ic …], The envelope icon shows notifications. It will be green if there is a new message.20:23
ubptgbot<Danfro> The lock is rotation lock. When turned on your device will not rotate between landscape and portrait mode.20:24
ubptgbot<Danfro> you can swipe down on any icon and the indicator bar will open on that subpage.20:25
ubptgbot<Danfro> or you drag indicator bar down a bit and then swipe left right to move between the items.20:25
ubptgbot<Danfro> Have fun with UT!20:25
ubptgbot<BaHKoTo> @Danfro [Have fun with UT!], Ahaa, 10x you :)20:54
ubptgbot<BaHKoTo> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Rh0OSvqK.webp20:55
ubptgbot<Danfro> @BaHKoTo [Ahaa, 10x you :)], You are welcome!20:55
ubptgbot<Sconio> @BaHKoTo [<reply to media>], Launcher Modular 👍🏻20:58
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> haha, what if i've disabled on Tweak Tool the launcher on devel and then install edge: A perfect unusable device :) , i'm filling a bug...21:23
ubptgbot<BaHKoTo> @Sconio [Launcher Modular 👍🏻], Yes, i like it :)21:25
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> [Edit] haha, what if i disable on Tweak Tool the launcher and then install edge: A perfect unusable device :) , i'm filling a bug...21:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @lduboeuf [haha, what if i disable on Tweak Tool the launcher and then install edge: A perf …], What against?21:27
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> N521:27
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/120321:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So you turned off the launcher21:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And the problem is that the launcher is turned off21:27
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> yes :)21:27
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> a bit scary when you just install edge21:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I'm not sure where this lands on the "Shooting yourself in the foot" scale21:28
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> i was not aware, i've disabled it long time ago on UT Tweak Tool21:29
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> i'm pretty sure others will have the same21:29
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes, but ignoring the setting means that we're ignoring what the user said they expressly wanted their device to do21:30
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> for sure, but for new launcher, you cannot do this anymore21:31
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> [Edit] for sure, but for the new launcher, you cannot do this anymore,21:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Okay. Well, got the Unity8 code handy? I might be able to point you in the right direction.21:32
ubptgbotAnthony Fett was added by: Anthony Fett21:34
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> humm not sure i can do this right now, but maybe something needs to be done for that case21:34
ubptgbot<Anthony Fett> (Photo, 500x666) https://irc.ubports.com/zsr4bU9R.png21:34
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> other than that, congrats for the new Unity8 :) , i like it a lot21:38
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> [Edit] anyway, congrats for the new Unity8 :) , i like it a lot21:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> What do you mean by disabling the launcher exactly?22:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> The dash?22:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> But, shooting your own foot, and complaining the bullet is difficult to remove, seems counterintuitive22:03
ubptgbot<Jakob> Just received OTA-10 for Pro 5. Time to thank everyone involved. Excellent work!22:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee [What do you mean by disabling the launcher exactly?], You can set the Launcher to never show, ever ever23:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> Oh, always hide. It will still show, but you need a mouse or keyboard. Though, swipe should still show it in that case. If not, def a bug23:14
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> No, I think it hijacks some behavior that makes the Launcher not show for things like the Wizard23:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The setting is called "Disable the launcher"23:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It does appear with a held keypress23:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It might only disable the swipearea23:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Also disables mouse interaction23:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Why would you want this setting23:26
ubptgbot<fredldotme> digital signage if it wasn't for the held keypress23:30
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Okay, so why would someone on a phone want this setting23:30
ubptgbot<fredldotme> no idea23:31
ubptgbot<cikgufatah> (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/9bqwKqAU.png23:33
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> OTA10, major updates to TELEports uAdBlock, and Weather apps -big props to the UBports team and the UT community for continued great work23:34
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> [Edit] OTA10, major updates to TELEports, uAdBlock, and Weather apps -big props to the UBports team and the UT community for continued great work23:34
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @UniversalSuperBox [Okay, so why would someone on a phone want this setting], work, one app interaction23:40
ubptgbot<mateosalta> touch device for scanning barcodes23:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But you can't launch apps without the Launcher, and you can still switch apps with the right edge23:41
ubptgbot<mateosalta> lots of places have web portals for this,23:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/unity8/commit/e49012e83a102f4f13beb050dc7d3092ad98296123:45
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @UniversalSuperBox [But you can't launch apps without the Launcher, and you can still switch apps wi …], something we might want to disable too ;)23:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @mateosalta [something we might want to disable too ;)], Not very helpful in the current context of "I set this setting and now it broke things"23:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mateosalta [touch device for scanning barcodes], Anyone making a device would be better with kiosk mir stuff23:51
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That wasn't as real in late 2016, though23:51
ubptgbot<fredldotme> @dohbee [Anyone making a device would be better with kiosk mir stuff], having worked in that area I can tell there are some people who want something they can follow the docs/tutorials with if possible (like the Unity shell when required) but have it only display a single full screen window otherwise.23:56
ubptgbot<fredldotme> which is... weird23:56
ubptgbot<fredldotme> oh and DE selection at login is too complicated23:56

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