 @fredldotme [having worked in that area I can tell there are some people who want something t …], Yeah, but canonical is selling this exact thing
 IMO the kiosk display server just needs to embedd a secret key combo to show the necessary tools (network manager gui, what have ya) when needed.
 I found its purpose. It was a custom OS built on top of Unity
 But since the Launcher is the only entry point to any functionality now, it makes sense to remove it.
 @fredldotme [IMO the kiosk display server just needs to embedd a secret key combo to show the …], It's not going to be much of a secret key combo if it's embedded in the code on GitHub 😜
 @RAOFest [It's not going to be much of a secret key combo if it's embedded in the code on …], I'm talking evil evil proprietary projects 😄
 Excuse me, how do I translate the new ubports.com website, translate.ubports.com seems to be just the content of the old website.
[01:16] <ubptgbot> Michael Nguyen was added by: Michael Nguyen
[01:16] <ubptgbot> <Michael Nguyen> (Photo, 464x688) https://irc.ubports.com/yV6nkky2.png
[01:16] <ubptgbot> <Michael Nguyen> (Photo, 1280x649) https://irc.ubports.com/KXMV2B65.png
[01:16] <ubptgbot> <Michael Nguyen> weh bz s dzlqp mwl
[01:16] <ubptgbot> <Michael Nguyen> [Edit] http://bit.ly/2YNBZhV?1651
 @mateosalta [described as a ferarri of phones, some vintage ferarris were around that much at …], '-'
 lol, just a theroy
 lol quite a theory at that
 https://www.dialaflight.com/blog/32-million-to-stay-in-inflatable-space-hotel_100074.html
 '-'
 @mateosalta [https://www.dialaflight.com/blog/32-million-to-stay-in-inflatable-space-hotel_10 …], just no
 jan 2013 ;)
 just before the edge launch
 welp so far no project has reach that much funding
 6 years later who said 7 :p
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[07:46] <ubptgbot> <KENNETH IVEY> (Photo, 500x500) https://irc.ubports.com/lozOdFWY.png
[07:46] <ubptgbot> <KENNETH IVEY> (Photo, 1280x671) https://irc.ubports.com/Q5Mxhn0B.png
[07:46] <ubptgbot> <KENNETH IVEY> stc g hzxdnmbq mxjys
[07:46] <ubptgbot> <KENNETH IVEY> [Edit] http://bit.ly/2YNCFnt?1881
 done
 So many new people? I doubt it lol
 The number of users here seems not to raise significantly recently. More effective spambot? Less new users? People just not joining?
 I do some banned accounts cleaning regularly, for example 9 were removed yesterday. That affect the total number too
[08:04] <ubptgbot> <Артём Деренговский> Good afternoon. Nexus 5 does not boot after installation via ubports-installer on linux. Hangs on the nexus splash screen. Recovery mode comes in.
 Dear all, many thanks for all the work on the new update. N5 update worked perfectly. However M10 FHD says file not found. Any ideas on how to remedy this? Many thanks.
 (Photo, 1920x1200) https://irc.ubports.com/pJmwbQWA.png
 Use tweak tool to delete data than try again
[08:50] <ubptgbot> <Артём Деренговский> Cleaning /data doesn't help. Also hangs on the logo.
 Restart and try again ?
 [Edit] I do some banned / removed accounts cleaning regularly, for example 9 were removed yesterday. That affects the total number too
[09:08] <ubptgbot> Candelaria Carruth was added by: Candelaria Carruth
 Reflash using installer
 [Edit] @ya_mul Restart and try again ?
[09:12] <ubptgbot> <Артём Деренговский> Hangs on logo. Four times flashing didn't help.
 @Артём Деренговский [Hangs on logo. Four times flashing didn't help.], Please, come to our Install group to get help with that (https://t.me/WelcomePlus)
 Restart and try again allowed updating M10 with OAT 10. Many thanks.
 @ya_mul [Restart and try again allowed updating M10 with OAT 10. Many thanks.], Avec plaisir =) It happened some times with my M10FHD. Each time I get scared then restarted the device. The download start again and update goes well =)
[10:21] <ubptgbot> Charles Park was added by: Charles Park
 Hello everyone
 I successfully ported my Nexus 5 to Ubuntu. But to my dismay it got stuck when I tried to switch off and restart.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/DMXpmHD9.png
 Please help. What can I do to bring it back to life ?
 @Versace [Please help. What can I do to bring it back to life ?], Long-Press power button and try to force a restart
 Ok. let me try. Thanks
 OTA-10 just installed on my Nexus 5 but it seems there is a problem with the bluetooth. I can listen music, but I can't make calls (I can't hear and no one can hear me ), I've tried with 5 different BT sets and 2 car kits. Any suggestions ?
 @DimoAlex [OTA-10 just installed on my Nexus 5 but it seems there is a problem with the blu …], As far as I know, Bluetooth calling doesn't really work properly on any UT device, but I might be wrong...
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/P00zSrVI.webp
 https://join.kaiza.la/p/Hacker
 Welcome
 So I updated my N5 to the edge channel, I will say its weird with the apps scope gone now, I like a clean desktop but I think someone new to UT might be a little lost with it.  Im gonna bring it to my testing spot (local sprint store) and let the techs there try it out since they all seem interested in UT and see how it goes
[11:57] <ubptgbot> <Артём Деренговский> Возникла проблема при первом старте при выборе "edge" не отображается клавиатура. На месте клавиатуры белый квадрат при разблокировке такая же проблема.
[12:00] <ubptgbot> <Артём Деренговский> There was a problem the first time you start, when you select "edge" the keyboard is not displayed. In place of the white square keyboard when unlocking the same problem.
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1204
 @advocatux [https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1204], My guess is it has to do with: https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/pull/84
 Hmm I see
 @Stefano0101 [As far as I know, Bluetooth calling doesn't really work properly on any UT devic …], It works sometimes and then it doesnt. Tried a lot of cars, best was BMW still ;)
 Basically the used Bluez software is buggy, but it would also need updates of pulseaudio and network-manager, the latter I am working on. A new Bluez version is in internal testing, but showed not much improvement e.g. for BT headsets. Still it will come to devel soon
 👍
 Thanks @Flohack  … It worked .I am currently exploring the features of my new OS.
 @Versace [Thanks @Flohack  … It worked .I am currently exploring the features of my new OS.], a warm Welcome! :)
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[12:30] <ubptgbot> <Beatrice Schumacher> (Photo, 400x400) https://irc.ubports.com/eFD9lpgx.png
[12:30] <ubptgbot> <Beatrice Schumacher> (Photo, 1280x712) https://irc.ubports.com/PeCC3J6h.png
[12:30] <ubptgbot> <Beatrice Schumacher> nojugspuasg
[12:30] <ubptgbot> <Beatrice Schumacher> [Edit] http://bit.ly/2YU4fzP?1905
 @Flohack [Basically the used Bluez software is buggy, but it would also need updates of pu …], Great news, thanks for update.
 @Flohack [Basically the used Bluez software is buggy, but it would also need updates of pu …], not sure nm will affect headset support. ofono maybe, but ofono and pulse upgrades are both quite a bit more challenging
 @dohbee [not sure nm will affect headset support. ofono maybe, but ofono and pulse upgrad …], Well it seems also we need a new pulseaudio to help with rerouting sound. currently you wont get it rereouted after an interruption for example, even if bluez reconnects it.
 So it can be a lot of work, yes
 I'm currently adding support for proper audio rerouting to telepathy-ofono, and bluetooth switching is supposed to be handled there. If it doesn't work we know where to look at.
 [Edit] I'm currently adding support for proper audio rerouting to telepathy-ofono, and bluetooth switching is supposed to be handled there. If it doesn't work we know where to look.
 the version of pulseaudio we have doesn't handle bt headsets well, regardless of other issues
 @Tygerpro [So I updated my N5 to the edge channel, I will say its weird with the apps scope …], That was my initial feeling but now after almost 4 months using it as my daily driver i don't want to use the old scopes anymore
[13:17] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> It's really nice to see that from the last update of Telegram you can tap on notification and it takes you straight to relevant chat. Nice one !
 @mark alexa [It's really nice to see that from the last update of Telegram you can tap on not …], Yeah. That was awesome
 And the contacts list too
 @malditobastardo [That was my initial feeling but now after almost 4 months using it as my daily d …], Yeah, I myself like it, but when Im showing people how to use it, Im not 100% sure they'll like it, granted I coukd be wrong, but Ill find out later today when I bring the N5 to my favorite sprint shop where they actually do have an int
[13:19] <ubptgbot> erest in UT
 @Tygerpro [Yeah, I myself like it, but when Im showing people how to use it, Im not 100% su …], Seeing hundred of big icons in the main window is tiring
 But yes. Right nkw the drawer is very minimalistic
 In the future with a fine search function it will be great
 I agree, but I also installed the launcher modular as well as sprint just to see if that makes a difference
 @Tygerpro [Yeah, I myself like it, but when Im showing people how to use it, Im not 100% su …], It's no less obvious than when first booting stock Android and you only have the few apps shown at the very bottom. Ours are just on the left side, and the "open the app list" button is bigger with a different position
 Yeah, regardless, I will let you guys know what the response is from the people that try it out
 I have found the best way to get people interested is to just let them play with a device running UT, even if its a WIP port, they ask me questions and I answer them, and if I dont know the answer I show them the website then tell them theres plenty of people that can answer that question, or if they want more info
 @malditobastardo [And the contacts list too], Which is not yet released ;)
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/2kY3vPLd.mp4
 I have a oneplus one and with android wifi work perfect with good signal. But when i install ubports the oneplus one won't recognize any wifi. Someone can help me, please
 @xowaenija [<reply to media>], @UniversalSuperBox @mariogrip @Flohack @wayneoutthere @advocatux new spammer
 do people click those?  maybe by accident? that's why i find spam so annoying. it's pretty vain
 @dohbee you should now have the power to ban tooo :D
 @mariogrip [@dohbee you should now have the power to ban tooo :D], whee thank you :)
 have mercy on me.  i'll be nicer
 @wayneoutthere [do people click those?  maybe by accident? that's why i find spam so annoying. i …], well same people as send money to the mighty  nigerian price :P
 @wayneoutthere [do people click those?  maybe by accident? that's why i find spam so annoying. i …], [Edit] well same people as send money to the mighty  nigerian prince :P
 @antoniohuertes [I have a oneplus one and with android wifi work perfect with good signal. But wh …], Sorry to hear but there are a few oneplus who have this issue. Currently its in the backlog
 @mariogrip [well same people as send money to the mighty  nigerian prince :P], and yet i remain poor
 yeah... this too ^ :(
 @dohbee [and yet i remain poor], same
 Waiting for people to send you money isn't enough. You have to encourage it somehow.
 But rich in regards of a clean conscience.
 @alan_griffiths [Waiting for people to send you money isn't enough. You have to encourage it some …], https://liberapay.com/dobey or do i need a bikini picture too?
 We're immune to spam around here. try another group.
 @dohbee [https://liberapay.com/dobey or do i need a bikini picture too?], bikini pics seems to work for instagrammers
 @dohbee [https://liberapay.com/dobey or do i need a bikini picture too?], I will pay you $100 for a real bikini picture of you and a link to it. It's gotta stay up for at least 48 hours.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/2y83ncmC.mp4
 Are there any admins about? This is seriously off topic!
 yeah sorry, lets remove it
 (Sticker, 360x512) https://irc.ubports.com/zAb8xTcX.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/DU53jujj.webp
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/sT0dGqtL.mp4
 @Flohack [Sorry to hear but there are a few oneplus who have this issue. Currently its in …], mine too
 @Flohack [Sorry to hear but there are a few oneplus who have this issue. Currently its in …], 😞 for some hardware part?, and if i change some internal part it can work or i need change the mother board???
 there is a forum page on how to workaround i think, i need to try it
 link to the forum please!! i am frustrating with these
 @antoniohuertes [😞 for some hardware part?, and if i change some internal part it can work or i …], no, i think a certain file missing
 lets see...
 file of ubports installation??
 i have ota5 and wifi works, but with the latest ota9 and ota10 won't work
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/995
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/995#issuecomment-459260093 here is the file, but you need to make a mac address, either old one from ota5, or new one
 i have a poor mobile signal and i can't call. Is it the same issue?
 can i back to ota5??
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/995#issuecomment-456349657
 thakns!!! i check it
 [Edit] thanks!!! i check it
 @antoniohuertes [can i back to ota5??], not really, unless you backed up an image
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/QZM5bT4y.png
 How can I download Firefox and vlc player?
 Meizu Pro 5 4gb RAM / 64gb storage model working with T-Mobile 3G/HSPA
 @Versace [How can I download Firefox and vlc player?], via Libertine
 @Versace [How can I download Firefox and vlc player?], http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html
 @Versace [How can I download Firefox and vlc player?], Firefox runs very poorly in UT currently.  Instructions on how to install it are at https://blog.arubislander.nl/2018/10/running-firefox-in-1604-libertine.html?m=1 &  … https://github.com/jdonald/firefox-armhf/releases
 @TotalSonic [Meizu Pro 5 4gb RAM / 64gb storage model working with T-Mobile 3G/HSPA], `free -h` might be more helpful
 @TotalSonic [via Libertine], Ok
 @Versace [Ok], also - when running VLC you need to open files into it via the File Manager - just click on the video you wish to open and then choose VLC from the list of apps that will pop up
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/3vBkJ0Pd.png
 @dohbee [free -h might be more helpful], here ya go
 Though, doesn't clarify why you posted it. ;)
 @dohbee [Though, doesn't clarify why you posted it. ;)], posting from Teleports it seems attachments aren't allowing captioning - at least in the way I tried it
 Fingerprint reader working nicely on this one too.
 @dohbee [Though, doesn't clarify why you posted it. ;)], [Edit] posting from Teleports it seems attachments aren't allowing captioning - at least in the way I tried it - anyway to repeat - just showing that this is 4gb RAM version of the Meizu Pro 5 working with 3G here in the USA.
[16:47] <ubptgbot> Dario Mc was added by: Dario Mc
 @dohbee [Though, doesn't clarify why you posted it. ;)], [Edit] posting from Teleports it seems attachments aren't allowing captioning - at least in the way I tried it - anyway to repeat - just showing that this is the 4gb RAM version of the Meizu Pro 5 working with 3G here in the USA.
[16:49] <ubptgbot> <Dario Mc> Hola, soy argentino
[16:49] <ubptgbot> <Dario Mc> Funciona ra en una iPad 1
 @Dario Mc [Hola, soy argentino], hola, bienvenidos! esta grupo para Ingles, solamente.  Espanol en https://t.me/UBPorts_ES
 @Dario Mc [Hola, soy argentino], [Edit] hola, bienvenidos! este grupo para Ingles, solamente.  Espanol en https://t.me/UBPorts_ES
 @Dario Mc [Funciona ra en una iPad 1], No - no funcionada con Apple device
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Dario Mc> Tanks
[18:27] <ubptgbot> pizzalovingnerd was added by: pizzalovingnerd
 Hi, Will Ubports support the Fairphone 3 if it comes out? The fairphone 3 got leaked, and there is going to be an event on the 27th
 https://twitter.com/Fairphone/status/1163735087227330560/photo/1
 @pizzalovingnerd [Hi, Will Ubports support the Fairphone 3 if it comes out? The fairphone 3 got le …], I would imagine whether it is possible and how easy it is to port will depend on what the actual chips are used, and how much of the device drivers' sources are available.
 @pizzalovingnerd [Hi, Will Ubports support the Fairphone 3 if it comes out? The fairphone 3 got le …], [Edit] I would imagine whether it is possible and how easy it is to port will depend on what the actual chips are used in it, and how much of the device drivers' sources are available.
 @pizzalovingnerd [Hi, Will Ubports support the Fairphone 3 if it comes out? The fairphone 3 got le …], if it's using mainline kernel and open source drivers, almost certainly. if it's using android 9 or 10, with binary drivers, there are some blockers to getting it ported
 I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it will be Android 9
 Hi all. I'll ask nobiest possible question ever. I finaly recived my nexux 5. In recovery it says "lock state= locked" what I presume is bootloader lock. I rooted few android phones before but I dont remeber what to do now. All I found on ubuntu touch site is that https://ubports.com/pl_PL/devices/nexus5-convergence which says to join tele
[18:51] <ubptgbot> gram group
 [Edit] Hi all. I'll ask nobiest possible question ever. I finaly recived my nexux 5. In recovery it says "lock state= locked" what I presume is bootloader lock. I rooted few android phones before but I dont remeber what to do now. All I found on ubuntu touch site is that https://ubports.com/pl_PL/devices/nexus5-convergence which says to jo
[18:52] <ubptgbot> in telegram group … What Do I want? Lil help with unlocking that and flashing ut
 [Edit] Hi all. I'll ask nobiest possible question ever. I finaly recived my nexux 5. In recovery it says "lock state= locked" what I presume is bootloader lock. I rooted few android phones before but I dont remeber what to do now. All I found on ubuntu touch site is that https://ubports.com/pl_PL/devices/nexus5-convergence which says to jo
[18:52] <ubptgbot> in telegram group … What Do I want? Lil help with unlocking that and flashing ut if some1 would be nice to help :D
[18:58] <ubptgbot> <Iar De> @Cyjan [<reply to media>], One more reason to have a repo on your own server.
[19:03] <ubptgbot> <Iar De> @Flohack [yes], Depends on law in which country. Chinese themselves plagiarize without any effect.
 @Iar De [Depends on law in which country. Chinese themselves plagiarize without any effec …], let's stay on topic and not respond to 10 day old messages that are veering off topic :)
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/caaS5Vah.png
 🥰
 [Edit] 🥰 … I just joined the family
 👍
[19:07] <Sia-> Hi, i ve really big trouble with ubports.. after installing ubport via ubport installer on oneplusone device. and reboot the phone stuck on logo as you see here.
[19:08] <Sia-> https://imgur.com/HZzG2xv
[19:08] <Sia-> right now is almost 67 min like that
[19:09] <Sia-> can reinstall android or fix this issue or i lost my device and can't use it?
 @Sia- [right now is almost 67 min like that], Adb catlog?
[19:09] <Sia-> adb can't find it
[19:10] <Sia-> is almost dead no lsusb no adb devices
 you can't use adb until you enter recovery
 reboot to bootloader
[19:10] <Sia-> do you think i'm so dump????
[19:11] <Sia-> if you can't help please save your time with kind of answer
 @dohbee [you can't use adb until you enter recovery], I dont think so. From what I remember you could "adb catlog xxx.txt" anytime you wanted.  I had similar problem with kernel long time ago.
 @Sia- [do you think i'm so dump????], pretty sure nobody called you dumb, so reacting in this way won't do anything but waste yoru time
 @Sia- [if you can't help please save your time with kind of answer], Hold power + volume down to force reboot it and as soon as it turn itself off, go to recovery
[19:12] <Sia-> i'm in recovery now
[19:12] <Sia-> but what should i do ?
 @Hangman228 [I dont think so. From what I remember you could "adb catlog xxx.txt" anytime you …], no, adb only works if usb debugging is enabled when OS is running or from recovery, and if at bootloader, only the bootloader tool (such as fastboot) can be used. also it's `logcat` rather than `catlog`
 @Sia- [but what should i do ?], try to flash it again?
[19:14] <Sia-> ok i do it again but is comming to recovery after triyng to flash it again
 What kind of recovery? Ubuntu 1? Twrp?
[19:15] <Sia-> https://imgur.com/VLYC3zS
[19:15] <Sia-> ubport recovery
[19:18] <Sia-> ubptgbot, now rebooting and installer said is done :)
 @Sia- [ubptgbot, now rebooting and installer said is done :)], Reboot nd try. I just installed ub touch for first time. Installed unlocked bootloader and whole phone froze for half min. I force rebooted, install it again and its working perfect ❤️
 @Flohack [Basically the used Bluez software is buggy, but it would also need updates of pu …], no regressions?
 @Fuseteam [no regressions?], Funny joke
 maybe :p
 ok, i think i know how to fix the keyboard in edge.
 @Fuseteam [no regressions?], When it comes to devel, we shall see any regressions ^^
 @pizzalovingnerd [Hi, Will Ubports support the Fairphone 3 if it comes out? The fairphone 3 got le …], wasn't there a thread on this on the fairphone forums?
[20:21] <ubptgbot> Billy Litchfield was added by: Billy Litchfield
[20:21] <ubptgbot> <Billy Litchfield> (Photo, 200x200) https://irc.ubports.com/fYyxR97G.png
[20:21] <ubptgbot> Thedudesouf was added by: Thedudesouf
 @Flohack [When it comes to devel, we shall see any regressions ^^], haha true
 @UniversalSuperBox @mariogrip where does `/etc/apt/preferences.d/ubports.pref` come from?
[20:22] <ubptgbot> <Billy Litchfield> (Photo, 1280x755) https://irc.ubports.com/7YAbMaGm.png
[20:22] <ubptgbot> <Billy Litchfield> renpfnw
[20:22] <ubptgbot> <Billy Litchfield> [Edit] http://bit.ly/33j1LOQ?176
 spam orz
 @dohbee [@UniversalSuperBox @mariogrip where does /etc/apt/preferences.d/ubports.pref com …], livecd-rootfs
 thanks
 @mariogrip [livecd-rootfs], https://github.com/ubports/livecd-rootfs/pull/8
 that will fix the osk on edge, and prevent similar issues from happening again in the future
 How to build ub recovery?
 mka recovery?
 I think halium-recovery assuming thats a thing, I dont know of it is though
[22:48] <ubptgbot> oponifa was added by: oponifa
 (Photo, 1068x767) https://irc.ubports.com/2TYxwMzR.png
 How to solve unpacking got killed?
 My PC RAM is 4GB, and my device RAM is 3GB, i think it should good enough to unpack some files
 could be related to storage space?
 but i think @Halium is a better group to ask