[09:59] <Sax> Hi, I suggest to make a repository with (half)professional media software only and throw out the kiddy stuff. For audio you need rosegarden, ubstudio is the only distribution with the old version 18. For video you need kdenlive and cinelerra, not more. If you want to install software you have first to install the installer, costs me half an hour to
[09:59] <Sax>  find out how to do, for this I got libreoffice, the last thing I need in a media distri. The distri is over 2GByte and includes a lot of old stuff that must first be updated. I suggest to make a minimal system. Thanks in advance
[16:10] <Eickmeyer> That was rude.
[16:10] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: no worries
[16:11] <OvenWerks> it is either why isn't this application included or why all this stuff
[16:11] <Eickmeyer> Forgetting the fact that the Ubiquity plugin lets you pick and choose what to install.
[16:12] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: it sounds like they were using installer
[16:13] <Eickmeyer> I didn't read that into it. Looked like (with the libreoffice implcation) that they were using the ISO.
[16:14] <Eickmeyer> But, you could be right. Thing is the "installer" could also mean Ubiquity.
[16:15] <OvenWerks> He complains about having to install the installer and taking a half hour
[16:16] <OvenWerks> Anyway people with ideas and no help or discusion are not helpful
[16:16] <Eickmeyer> Exactly.
[16:16] <OvenWerks> the old my way or the highway.... 
[16:16] <Eickmeyer> This goes under E:Wishlist/WontFix
[16:18] <OvenWerks> no bug doesn't need that even :)
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[16:19] <OvenWerks> Though adding the ability to choose within metas is on the roadmap... wasn't there someone who wanted to do some programing?
[16:19] <Eickmeyer> Yes. cjoke?
[16:20] <Eickmeyer> @teward001: Indeed.
[16:20]  * OvenWerks is dyslexic and has trouble with remebering such thngs
[16:21] <OvenWerks> but I would welcome someone taking that project over and converting to python as well as adding that functionality
[16:23] <Eickmeyer> Ah, it was dianmos, who isn't here right now.
[16:23] <Eickmeyer> I suppose I could throw it in a blog post and see who bites.
[16:48] <OvenWerks> or even the mail list
[18:26] <cjoke> Eickmeyer: < Eickmeyer> FYI: I'm going to be out of town this week on a vacation. I might be available, but not as much as usual.
[18:27] <cjoke> =)
[18:49] <Eickmeyer> cjoke: 1) I can still check-in from time-to-time, and 2) I'm a volunteer just like everyone else; this isn't my real job.
[20:26] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: my first (of three) cheap (under $3) usb audio devices. It is the top of the range at $3something with shipping included
[20:26] <OvenWerks> it has mutes and levels built in
[20:27] <OvenWerks> it can pretend to be up to 7.1 which it would convert to stereo (somehow)
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> Oh, cool. I just got a $23 behringer XLR2USB device, which can only do 44.1k or 48k, but it's just like a lot of other devices people have been having issues with, but it works perfectly in my testing.
[20:28] <OvenWerks> My hope was that it would be single sample rate that I could play with but it has both 44k1 and 48k so no luck there
[20:29] <OvenWerks> So I will wait for the two under 1$ devices I ordered and hope one of them is worse :)
[20:31] <OvenWerks> Oh and now there is a dog leash that can recharge your phone....
[20:32] <OvenWerks> my new USB audio if has the insiring name of "Device"
[20:39] <OvenWerks> I guess that is only slightly worse than my ART DualTubePree which is called "CODEC"
[20:40] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I guess that you do not have access to the XLR2USB device while on vacation?
[20:40] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I do have it. It's form factor is that of a cable.
[20:41] <Eickmeyer> It uses a C-Media chipset.
[20:42] <OvenWerks> could yu check in /proc/asound/<device>/stream0 to see what it says? maybe pastebinit?
[20:42] <Eickmeyer> Sure, hang on...
[20:44] <OvenWerks> probably cat /proc/asound/card*/stream* |pastebinit
[20:45] <OvenWerks> it seems the stream0 file is unique to USB cards
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fGbwDX93Kc/
[20:48] <OvenWerks> thanks
[20:48] <OvenWerks> identical to this one
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> Probably. C-Media is a cheap chipset.
[20:52] <OvenWerks> I was thinking I could use that file to find out what sample rates a device uses, but I have now realized that I use the zita-ajbridge code for internal devices too which do not have that file.
[20:53] <OvenWerks> once the device is in use, there are other files that give SR but I need that info before I connect
[23:17] <cjoke> Eickmeyer: duh, I think you did miss my intentions, I just granted you happy holliday, nothing else, soz. <3
[23:19] <cjoke> Im just straight forward, no fear kinda guy, old man in fact :)