| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 10:57 |
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| crydotsnake-M | hello | 11:53 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> hi | 12:04 |
| crydotsnake-M | Hello Rik! :) | 12:05 |
| crydotsnake-M | How many testers we have?. | 12:13 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> 4 or 5 regular ones I think | 12:23 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> who are not developers or other team I mean | 12:23 |
| crydotsnake-M | Okay. | 12:23 |
| crydotsnake-M | And what i have to do, to be a Tester?. Just contribute?. | 12:24 |
| RikMills | yep | 12:24 |
| crydotsnake-M | Okay :) | 12:24 |
| crydotsnake-M | It is a great feeling, to make software better and better | 12:25 |
| mparillo | There is a team, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-testers but I am not sure what that does. | 13:54 |
| crydotsnake-M | I'm already in that Launchpad Group. | 13:55 |
| mparillo | Excellent. Does anybody here have authority to add you to the testers factoid? | 13:56 |
| RikMills | ubottu: !testers is ,reply> Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping RikMills, soee, BluesKaj, lordievader, mamarley, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information. | 14:05 |
| RikMills | ubottu: !testers is ,reply> Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping RikMills, soee, BluesKaj, lordievader, mamarley, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information. | 14:06 |
| RikMills | ubottu: !testers is <reply> Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping RikMills, soee, BluesKaj, lordievader, mamarley, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information. | 14:06 |
| crydotsnake-M | Cool! | 14:07 |
| RikMills | ubottu: !testers-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping RikMills, soee, BluesKaj, lordievader, mamarley, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information. | 14:07 |
| crydotsnake-M | I dont know mparillo | 14:07 |
| crydotsnake-M | * testers factoid ? @_freenode_mparillo:kde.org | 14:08 |
| RikMills | mparillo: nope, I don't | 14:08 |
| crydotsnake-M | Ah you mean to the !testers command? | 14:08 |
| crydotsnake-M | * Ah you mean to the !testers command :D | 14:09 |
| crydotsnake-M | RikMills: Do you think it is importand to have Programming Experience as a tester? | 14:09 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> no | 14:09 |
| BluesKaj | RikMills, ping | 14:17 |
| RikMills | ? | 14:18 |
| crydotsnake-M | Okay. | 14:18 |
| crydotsnake-M | I want to learn Python | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | hehe ok, RikMills what's up? | 14:18 |
| crydotsnake-M | Maybe i should read my book about learning Python. | 14:18 |
| RikMills | BluesKaj: factiod can't be edited, that is all | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 14:22 |
| crydotsnake-M | Anyway, i'm in the Kubuntu Testers launchpad group, that is a good start i think :) | 14:23 |
| santa_ | good afternoon everyone | 14:48 |
| crydotsnake-M | Hello! :) | 14:48 |
| santa_ | RikMills: I will have a look @ the akonadi issue whenever I have time | 14:54 |
| santa_ | this probably needs discussion with upstream, it doesn't seem a good idea to change the underlying database just because we can | 14:55 |
| santa_ | for now, could you please summarize the problem, it fails to start or what? | 14:56 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> yes, can't start | 15:06 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> mysql-5.7 will be removed, so we can't stay with that | 15:08 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> mysql-8 can't make a new database, or use an existing one | 15:09 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> mariadb can | 15:09 |
| RikMills | santa_: ^ | 15:10 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> rik , how can i reset akonadi | 15:10 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> managed to get mariadb running ... but using 10.4 from mariadb repo | 15:10 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> i doesn't know why 10.3.x in archieve failed to start | 15:10 |
| RikMills | it starts here :/ | 15:11 |
| santa_ | ok, RikMills and 5.7 is going to be removed ... when? | 15:11 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> @RikMills, :( | 15:11 |
| RikMills | santa_: before eoan release. some of its packages are already taken over by 8 I think | 15:12 |
| santa_ | and you know that because... | 15:12 |
| RikMills | I asked in release | 15:13 |
| santa_ | ok, and they told you, do you remember the date and hour or do you have the backlog? | 15:14 |
| ejat | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g5Qn3m6dbp/ | 15:14 |
| RikMills | [20:42] <RikMills> I assume mysql-5.7 is going to be removed completely soon? | 15:15 |
| RikMills | [20:43] <vorlon> I can't speak to the timeline on that | 15:15 |
| RikMills | [20:43] <vorlon> I expect it would be removed before release | 15:15 |
| santa_ | so maybe we can ask them to keep it | 15:16 |
| santa_ | maybe | 15:16 |
| RikMills | ejat: well, if you don't mind nuking it, then rm -fr .config/akonadi/ .local/share/akonadi/ | 15:16 |
| RikMills | santa_: well, we can't build against it any more, as the -dev packages are taken over by v8 | 15:17 |
| santa_ | ok | 15:17 |
| RikMills | but I want to be prepared, as I suspect they will want it to go | 15:17 |
| ejat | doesnt have .local inside .config/akonadi | 15:18 |
| RikMills | ejat: its not inside there | 15:18 |
| RikMills | ejat: rm -fr ~/.config/akonadi/ ~/.local/share/akonadi/ | 15:18 |
| RikMills | if you prefer | 15:19 |
| RikMills | while akonadit is stopped | 15:19 |
| RikMills | *akonadi | 15:19 |
| blaze | wait | 15:19 |
| ejat | owh .. u mean thats 2 folder .. | 15:19 |
| ejat | ok my bad | 15:19 |
| RikMills | blaze: yes? | 15:20 |
| blaze | removing ib* files inside akonadi folder should be enough | 15:20 |
| santa_ | RikMills: ok, so last but not least how I can reproduce the problem? Just starting akonadi in eoan? or something else? | 15:21 |
| RikMills | santa_: akonadictl start | 15:21 |
| ejat | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9PKH5nF4Qy/ | 15:21 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <x_sun> (Photo, 371x354) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/tC2klDZE/file_17372.jpg I mean these two | 15:22 |
| RikMills | santa_: once you have installed mysql-client-core-8.0 and mysql-server-core-8.0 | 15:22 |
| santa_ | RikMills: so without them it works? | 15:23 |
| RikMills | santa_: it obviously works with 5.7, and it also works if you switch to mariadb equivalents | 15:24 |
| RikMills | just not with mysql 8 ones | 15:24 |
| RikMills | not even if you completely disable apparmor | 15:25 |
| santa_ | ok, so I have now a good overview, thank you very much | 15:25 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> @ejat, 👆🏻 | 15:26 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> @myfenris, I can't recreate that, so not sure how to solve it | 15:28 |
| ejat | i need to adduser at the db ? | 15:28 |
| RikMills | I didn't need to here | 15:29 |
| blaze | you don't need a standalone setup, just the *-core libraries | 15:30 |
| blaze | same as mysql before | 15:31 |
| RikMills | indeed | 15:31 |
| ejat | yeah .. | 15:31 |
| ejat | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZZFsNmc47p/ | 15:33 |
| ejat | :( | 15:33 |
| RikMills | santa_: FYI, akonadi 19.08 also does not work with mysql-8 | 15:35 |
| RikMills | in case you wondered | 15:36 |
| santa_ | ok fine | 15:36 |
| ejat | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/akonadi-and-mariadb-10-2-8-a-4175612895/page3.html | 15:38 |
| ejat | wondering why fresh installed working fine | 15:39 |
| ejat | @RikMills your VM not using KCI ? | 15:39 |
| RikMills | nope | 15:40 |
| RikMills | using freah eoan install | 15:40 |
| RikMills | *fresh | 15:41 |
| ejat | okie | 15:43 |
| ejat | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PmmQwt2W7h/ | 15:48 |
| ejat | bug 1797643 | 15:48 |
| ubottu | bug 1797643 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "akonadi fails to start for fresh user/install in Cosmic" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797643 | 15:48 |
| ejat | related to apparmor | 15:49 |
| RikMills | yes, that was fixed | 15:50 |
| RikMills | I hav no apparmor denials with mariadb | 15:51 |
| RikMills | well, not that stop akonadi starting, or that match what you pasted, anyway | 15:54 |
| blaze | I've managed to start akonadi against mariadb just now with existing database | 15:57 |
| RikMills | blaze: yeah, that is why I was pondering a switch | 16:00 |
| ejat | from the bugs seem not fully fixed :( | 16:03 |
| blaze | libqt5sql5-mysql depends on libmysqlclient21 (>= 8.0.11), that's questionable since I only have mariadb now | 16:05 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SjWddCWmMR/ | 16:22 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> 🤔 | 16:22 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> hmmmm | 16:34 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> @RikMills given the mysqld-akonadi complain mode | 16:35 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> works! | 16:35 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> i should not nuke the akonadi at the 1st place .. but nevermind .. | 16:36 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> i seldomly used kmail nowdays .. | 16:37 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> either mailspring @ thunderbird | 16:37 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> thunderbird FTW | 16:39 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> @RikMills, 💪🏻 | 16:40 |
| blaze | is there a need for an upgrade script, nuking the old mysql files? | 16:40 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <RikMills> doesn't seem so with mariadb | 16:41 |
| blaze | good | 16:42 |
| RikMills | that would need to be tested with a disco to eoan upgrade as well though | 16:43 |
| RikMills | where akonadi version changes | 16:43 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> finally my nightmare (can't start mariadb + akonadi) disappear .. | 16:55 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <myfenris> 😅 | 16:58 |
| santa_ | RikMills: while I prepare myself to dig into the akonadi issue ... do you have a few minutes to talk about a few easier things? | 18:39 |
| RikMills | santa_: ok | 18:49 |
| santa_ | RikMills: ok, first of all kservice. I have seen you made a patch to fix the autotest issue, the change apparently wasn't pushed to git | 18:54 |
| santa_ | also, may I try to convince you to use the upstream patch instead? | 18:54 |
| santa_ | https://build.kde.org/job/Frameworks/job/kservice/job/kf5-qt5%20SUSEQt5.12/ | 18:55 |
| santa_ | I think build #43 fixed the issue in question | 18:55 |
| santa_ | https://build.kde.org/job/Frameworks/job/kservice/job/kf5-qt5%20SUSEQt5.12/43/ | 18:56 |
| RikMills | 404 on that link | 18:56 |
| santa_ | wat | 18:56 |
| santa_ | it works here | 18:56 |
| RikMills | did 2nd time here | 18:56 |
| santa_ | ok | 18:57 |
| santa_ | the second one is the build #43 | 18:57 |
| santa_ | if you click on changes -> cgit that would bring you this: | 18:58 |
| santa_ | https://cgit.kde.org/kservice.git/commit/?id=f5b0223325c72d4d29d6f7e9e1355455355d3981 | 18:58 |
| santa_ | which is, I believe, the upstream patch to solve the problem | 18:58 |
| RikMills | I looks at that. it is already in 5.61 | 18:58 |
| RikMills | *looked | 18:58 |
| santa_ | also just FTR with or without it, it doesn't seem to fail in my test build servers | 18:59 |
| santa_ | * without it | 19:00 |
| santa_ | I haven't tested with it | 19:00 |
| RikMills | it didn't fail either when I tres in lxd autopkgtest. but it failed on ubuntu infra | 19:00 |
| RikMills | *tried in | 19:00 |
| santa_ | yeah, I guessed that must be one of these complicated corner cases | 19:00 |
| RikMills | yeah | 19:01 |
| * RikMills pushed changes | 19:01 | |
| santa_ | thanks, whenever you have time please consider the upstream patch. move to the next issue [y/n]? | 19:02 |
| RikMills | santa_: I can't consider the upstream patch, as it was included in the 5.61 tar | 19:03 |
| RikMills | which is why I gave up at that point | 19:03 |
| santa_ | oh, sorry, ok I misunderstood | 19:04 |
| RikMills | I though it looked an obvious fix, and I missed the date | 19:04 |
| RikMills | then was quite suprised to fix it already in the tar | 19:04 |
| RikMills | *to find it | 19:05 |
| santa_ | so the only actual issue was pushing the thing to git which you already solved | 19:05 |
| santa_ | so, move to the next issue [y/n]? | 19:05 |
| RikMills | y | 19:05 |
| santa_ | ok, kirigami-gallery | 19:06 |
| santa_ | this doesn't exist in our git repos so it was triggering a bug in git-clone-all which is fixed in the master branch | 19:07 |
| santa_ | in addition to that ... maybe we should package it? | 19:07 |
| RikMills | it has been started in debian by sgclark | 19:08 |
| santa_ | yes, I know it's an example program, but still it would nice have | 19:08 |
| santa_ | yeah, I was about to say that, apparently we already have some packaging available | 19:08 |
| RikMills | if debian don't get to an upload then we can do it I guess | 19:08 |
| santa_ | I mean it's part of apps and seems better to upload it than adding it to the skip list | 19:09 |
| RikMills | I'll see if scarlett has any ETA | 19:09 |
| santa_ | regarding example/demo programs it's nice to have them | 19:09 |
| RikMills | yep | 19:10 |
| santa_ | for instance some time ago I did a talk @ university about Qt and it was nice to have the qt example/demo programs packaged | 19:10 |
| santa_ | "look how awesome Qt is" | 19:10 |
| santa_ | and well I already said all I wanted to say about kirigami-gallery, so move to the next one [y/n]? | 19:11 |
| RikMills | apparently in ftpmasters new queue | 19:11 |
| RikMills | given how they ignore low priority stuffm maybe we should get on it | 19:12 |
| santa_ | when it comes to debian's mighty NEW queue, you can safely assume that things there might take from weeks to months to be processed | 19:13 |
| santa_ | needless to say I used to work for debian, so I know how "wonderful" is that | 19:14 |
| santa_ | anyway, move to the next topic [y/n]? | 19:15 |
| RikMills | lets take a look at the packaging in the next week or so. see what we think | 19:15 |
| RikMills | y | 19:15 |
| santa_ | ok | 19:16 |
| santa_ | last time I tried an initial build of apps 19.08 they were a few things broken | 19:16 |
| santa_ | i.e. the source package doesn't build | 19:16 |
| santa_ | is everything pushed to git? | 19:17 |
| santa_ | if yes, may I fix things? | 19:17 |
| RikMills | there where some respins IIRC | 19:17 |
| santa_ | ok | 19:17 |
| santa_ | also regarding the branch naming 'kubuntu_fseries_staging'... | 19:18 |
| santa_ | maybe it would be better to use 'kubuntu_eoan_backports'? | 19:18 |
| RikMills | might be | 19:18 |
| santa_ | so this way we won't have a branch which would have to be 'renamed' in a couple of months | 19:19 |
| santa_ | not a big tragedy, but it seems to me the 'kubuntu_eoan_backports' naming would be the path of least resistance | 19:19 |
| RikMills | I think the only build fail I had in the end was cantor, and that was only because new julia FTBFS in proposed on some arches | 19:19 |
| RikMills | let me ponder | 19:22 |
| santa_ | I had some packages failing with "do-all gbp-tritemio" because some patches were already applied upstream | 19:23 |
| santa_ | specifically those which I added for 19.04.3 to fix build failures | 19:23 |
| santa_ | and I think I also had a couple of extra failures or so | 19:23 |
| santa_ | I will give you an updated list once I get my git clones ready again | 19:24 |
| santa_ | (I'm cloning everything in the other server) | 19:24 |
| RikMills | ok, going through and doing a fresh ppa rebuild is probably in order. as well as that | 19:26 |
| santa_ | The command failed to execute in the following directories: | 22:06 |
| santa_ | akonadi-import-wizard/ (exit status = 1) | 22:06 |
| santa_ | cantor/ (exit status = 1) | 22:06 |
| santa_ | kate/ (exit status = 1) | 22:06 |
| santa_ | kmail/ (exit status = 1) | 22:06 |
| santa_ | kpat/ (exit status = 1) | 22:06 |
| santa_ | minuet/ (exit status = 1) | 22:07 |
| santa_ | palapeli/ (exit status = 1) | 22:07 |
| santa_ | s | 22:07 |
| santa_ | RikMills: ↑ I think all of them are the missing headers patches we had to add for 19.04, are you sure you pushed all you changes to git? | 22:07 |
| santa_ | s/you/your/ | 22:07 |
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