[16:31] <nilg> I suspect there's a bug in ubuntustudio-controls or in my system, I have a `/proc/asound/card1` folder without an `id` subfolder and this crashes ubuntustudio-controls. 
[16:33] <nilg> Even if it is a bug in my system, I suspect ubuntustudio-controls can be made more robust, however before I start hacking it I'd like to have the latest version. Is 1.7.1 the latest version?
[16:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> !ubuntustudio-backports | nilg: backports has version 1.10
[16:47] <ubottu> nilg: backports has version 1.10: The Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA is required for users of Ubuntu Studio to receive LTS support for Ubuntu Studio 18.04, and for #ubuntustudio to support users of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and its flavors using !jack. For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/BackportsPPA, !ubuntustudio-controls, and !ubuntustudio-installer
[16:49] <OvenWerks> nilg: what does the trace back look like?
[16:50] <OvenWerks> (run ubuntustudio-controls from terminal)
[16:52] <Eickmeyer[m]> nilg: this is not the support channel.
[16:52] <Eickmeyer[m]> !support
[16:52] <ubottu> This is the Ubuntu Studio development channel. Our official support channel is on #ubuntustudio. Also see http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=335
[16:54] <nilg> OvenWerks: I've created the following issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls/+bug/1841451
[16:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1841451 in ubuntustudio-controls "ubuntustudio-controls crash if card with no id" [Undecided,New]
[16:56] <OvenWerks> nilg: could you in a terminal type: ls -l /proc/asound |pastebinit
[16:56] <OvenWerks> and put the url here?
[16:59] <nilg> OvenWerks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9rtpwJqjMb/
[17:00] <OvenWerks> nilg: I think that is not too hard to fix. Yes I would say if there is no id file the driver or device is not right.
[17:00] <Eickmeyer> nilg: OvenWerks: Take this to #ubuntustudio. This is not a development discussion. This is a support discussion.
[17:00] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: this is dev
[17:00] <OvenWerks> nilg: is this usb or internal
[17:00] <Eickmeyer> How so?
[17:01] <OvenWerks> gathering info to fix a bug
[17:01] <nilg> OvenWerks: I have 3 audio devices (enabled at different moments)
[17:01] <nilg> 1. Internal
[17:01] <nilg> 2. USB
[17:01] <nilg> 3. Bluetooth
[17:02] <nilg> Of course I'm never using or expecting to use the bluetooth device with jack
[17:02] <OvenWerks> It may be that the USB device chip set does not have a "name" entered
[17:03] <Eickmeyer> Gathering info to fix a bug is support. Develpment is collaboration to fix the bug. There's a difference, but what do I know. I'm just trying to keep the IRC council happy.
[17:04] <nilg> I don't mind moving to #ubuntustudio, though to blurry the line further, I don't mind hacking/fixing the bug as well :-)
[17:04] <OvenWerks> anyway, I think I have enough info to fix it.
[17:04] <nilg> I suppose a simple try/catch to skip cards without id would do the trick...
[17:05] <nilg> Awesome!
[17:05] <OvenWerks> simpler I hope
[17:05] <Eickmeyer> !bug | nilg: In the future, for a more complete bug report, use this method
[17:05] <ubottu> nilg: In the future, for a more complete bug report, use this method: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[17:05] <Eickmeyer> So, you would've filed that using ubuntu-bug ubuntustudio-controls
[17:06] <nilg> Oh, thanks.
[17:06] <Eickmeyer> Either way, I triaged the bug and moved it to the proper place, but I fear it'll get marked as incomplete since it wasn't filed correctly.
[17:06] <Eickmeyer> That or invalid.
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> nilg: Also, people in ubuntustudio-devel hang out in #ubuntustudio, so please don't post support questions in here.
[17:08] <nilg> Got it
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> Otherwise, why would we have the two channels?
[17:09]  * Eickmeyer ends rant
[17:09] <OvenWerks> lint --pedantic  ;)
[17:10] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: We have to follow IRC guidelines. That's part of it.
[17:27] <teward> *salts Eickmeyer* Python is annoying ain't it
[17:34] <studiobot> <tsimonq2> *salts teward for reasons*
[17:35] <teward> I*drags @tsi
[17:35] <teward> bleh damn phone
[17:35] <teward> *drags @tsimonq2 out back and buries him*
[18:26] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: got the other two cheap (under $1) audio devices today... they also have both 44k1 and 48k. I shall have to try running my master at 96k or something.